The Work of the Warren Commission: Part 2
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza co-presented a two-part panel discussion, "The Work of the Warren Commission, Half a Century On: Its Methods, Successes & Questions." The second panel featured several members of the Warren Commission staff to discuss their roles on the commission and how the experience affected their professional lives. Judge Burt W. Griffin, Justice Richard M. Mosk, Justice Stuart R. Pollak, Professor W. David Slawson and Howard P. Willens made remarks moderated by Professor William J. Bridge, SMU Dedman School of Law. They were joined by Dallas attorney and former Warren Commission staff member Jay M. Vogelson and SMU professors Lackland H. Bloom, Jr., Chris Jenks, Dennis M. Simon and Tom E. Stone. The presentation took place October 11, 2013 on Southern Methodist University's Dallas campus. It was presented in partnership with the SMU Dedman School of Law and the John G. Tower Center for Political Studies. To see related films, photos, documents and oral histories from The Sixth Floor Museum's collection, visit our online collections database (emuseum.jfk.org). Or make a research appointment to explore the books, DVDs and other materials available in the Museum's Reading Room (www.jfk.org/go/....
Bugliosi is the best counter argument to conspiracy. It absolutely obliterates any notion of conspiracy
I agree.
Bugliosi was brilliant at prosecuting Manson ,but he is dead wrong and way off when it comes to th JFK assassination,which surprises me .There are too many people w too much valid and legitimate documentation with proof of a conspiracy .
Yes, also the Posner book.
@@dks13827 Posner was the first counter conspiracy book I read and it turned me from 90% pro conspiracy to about 90% anti conspiracy. Bugliosi followed and it was like a tsunami
@@billkeon880 Interesting, Bill. Thanks for your comment. You will notice that all the general public critics don't know anything that happened. It is true. Not even when it happened.
Please remember one thing............... most of the Americans who say things about the assassination do not know anything about it, not even when and where it occured.
Precisely.
At a later date, ballistics guys shot from behind cow skulls filled with gelatin. The front blew out and the skull flew backwards, fast.
It's not warren commission. It's allen dulles commission or lbj commission
Please see my comment on your previous utterance (above)
@@johnhoey4605 fed
If you have evidence, please share to the world and be famous. You probably don’t appreciate the supreme implausibility of a large body of people being coerced and keeping quiet in a conspiracy for decades and decades. Please respond and I will elaborate
it was IPS driver from KING OF QUEENS
@@billkeon880 first of all there are many people who know or knew ,a lot are dead now .But if you can’t figure out why and how people could keep quiet ,we’ll I’ll tell you why ,you would end up dead .!! Plain and simple : here’s a list of people who knew and talked : Karen Kupcinet ,Jack Ruby ,Rose Cheramie ,Sam Smithwick,Dorothy Killgallen ,Lee Bowers ,John Marshall,Mac Wallace ,Clint Peoples ,Roger Craig ,and so many more .next is a list of people who knew and kept quiet : bobby baker ,billy sol Estes ,Cliff Carter ,Madeline Brown ,the Kennedys ,John Connolly ,and many more .Why did they keep quiet ? They didn’t wanna end up dead !!Many of them have finally spoken in very recent times ,when it was safe .
Wrong people asking the questions. The back wound is lower then the throat wound. If they want a discussion they should have the people that argue those points asking and showing their proof.
You're not very smart, are you?? Or else you would've known why there seemed to be a discrepancy between the back wound & the throat wound.
They got it right Jimbo.Maybe if you watch it again ?
The limo and Kennedy were both travelling downhill.
I thought so for years as well jimbo. BUT the meme of the upper back/neck wound placement comes from the hole in the clothes. However if you Google pictures of the limo from Dallas Morning News you see two crucial things the verify the WC findings. To answer your question, the first is that pictures show that Kennedy’s clothes were bunched up on his back. When he slid down in his seat the jacket and shirt got pulled up like is does to me and most other people at times. You can see the bunching riding up in the pictures. This would make the hole appear lower when the clothes were laid out flat. The second thing the pictures show is that Kennedy is clearly sitting about 6-8 inches to the right of Connelly. That messes up Jim Marr andOliver Stones line diagram that conspiracy buffs rely on to attach the single bullet theory. Spector got it right. Oswald’s rifle angle lines up perfectly for the throat wound. The autopsy X-ray showed no bullet left in Kennedy’s throat path, so a metal jacketed bullet from behind would pass through into Connelly. Entrance wound in both men had entrance abrasion collar on posterior sides of their bodies (not anterior) and Kennedy’s wound was round (direct entry) and Connelly’s wound was oblong (from a tumbling bullet which occurs after a bullet gets deflected of leaves another body. All the evidence supports the WC
@@billkeon880 Marrs and Stone are lying clowns.
It’s true the grief was overwhelming. My dad was about 27 years old. He found out about the assassination when he walked into a small convenient store after work. In those days they published an evening paper. He saw the headline ‘Kennedy Shot.’ He thought it was Robert Kennedy. He just couldn’t conceive that it was the president. He cried when he got home. I was a four months old at the time. My dad didn’t cry often, so it all meant a lot to him. I still have his 1960s copy of the Warren Commission report. I read it cover to cover. It’s pretty convincing.
Yes.
The " seven reasons " should of been deleted from this talk also the volume of the report he holds up is a summary. All Opinion Based on and opinions aren't facts. I clicked on this thinking debate but was so wrong! It was who pat who on the back harder.
It really was ridiculous
tommy t It's "SHOULD HAVE BEEN" (not "should of"...)!!!
@@beebroot These people are beyond wrong. Everyone there, with actual eyes... saw the back of his head BROWN OUT. Clearly the footage was altered.
What a farce! One participant of the Warren Commission after another assures us that they followed every lead; that there was only two bullets which came from behind; that there was only one shooter etc. Then when questions are allowed they have to admit that they were not allowed to see the photos and xrays of the President's body. Unbelievable! How are we supposed to take any of these guys seriously?
I can't watch any more of this theatre. I have better things to do with my time...
@@swankybutters8371 You're nuts.
Excellent discussion
Chris jenks makes a very important point 1:00:00
1 thing to me that stands out an it's in plain view frame by frame an in slow motion on zapruder film is last 2 shots right on top of each other over a second apart. 1st of last 2 shots from rear you see briefly jfk lean forward that was a rear shot then a second later at the most a close front right side shot where jfk falls hard back an to his left. It's right there on film it's not a witness or talk discussion. Of course you won't hear this in Warren commission report. We clearly know now it was just the lone wolf Oswald 3 shots 6 floor cover up so they thought we could let it go an move on.
@davidwilliams4498 No, it was not thought you "could let it go and move on." It was thought that you'd begin collecting: Conspiracy-crap playing cards! Five factoids in every pack! There's the Mauser card, the paraffin test card, the altered Z-film card, the Secret Service-did-it card; and of course the "Umbrella Man" 50th anniversary reissue. Collect one, disbelieve ‘em all.
Willens book is really excellent, I agree. It shows how implausible and ridiculous that there was a conspiracy not so much at the level of evidence, which is dealt with amazingly well in other books, but in the workings of day to day investigations like these. It would be impossible to have a conspiracy. The Warren report is also excellent despite a few shortcomings
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@@declandonahue592 meaning what....?
Well said
@@nyujay2010 fed
@@billkeon880 meaning he is so sure that Oswald and/or Ruby weren't working alone, that anyone promoting otherwise must be a bot or government shill.
Totally one sided......what else would they say?
Kind of cowardly...
@@swankybutters8371 Swanky Roscoe Butters White.
@@swankybutters8371 Not courageous like you, bravely giving the finger to J.D. Tippit's family as you publicly accuse him of being a conspirator and traitor with zero evidence.
Very true, they should have explored both sides, the one with the hard evidence and logic and the other side with the paranoia and crackpot speculations.
LBJs lawyer Ed Clark owned Texas . Who had a connection to all groups I’ve mentioned who were involved ? Mafia , Texas oil men , cia military industrial complex, LBJ , who had the most to loose ? LBJ who had the power to cover it up ? LBJ . read Madeline browns book Texas in the morning , she was LBJs mistress for 20 years , had his kid
MOMS MABELY
@juliegoff1731 The social event, the night before the assassination, at which Brown alleges LBJ told her of a JFK plot -at the home of Texas oil magnate Clint Murchison, never happened, as Murchison was in ill health at the time, recovering from a stroke at his East Texas ranch. Furthermore, LBJ was verified as having been in Houston that night, 225 miles away, chairing a dinner honoring Albert Thomas. Madeleine Duncan Brown is a (compulsive) proven pathological serial liar.
Stupid lady.
it happened in Dallas for a reason. LBJ was that reason. the corrupted DPD was another reason. the dallas FBI field office controlled every aspect of the investigation. FBI CIA DPD all corrupt.
Blakely lied ?? OMG !!!!!!!!!!! he is a fink.
Why you people doing this? Why, why? Why?
They either "Have to" "Want to" or "They are blind"
DEBUNK DEBUNK DEBUNK is why
right now its 60yrs later, and theyre still trying to sell their corrupted warren report theory. if it was a lone gunman and ALL the evidence pointed to one, then case closed. it continues because something is very rotten here. VERY. its clear in the Zapruder film that the head shot came from the front. and the neat little throat wound was also a shot from the front. magic bullet theory my ass
Stone needs to chill out on the medical illustration.
Cheerleaders would have made a nice accent for this waste of time presentation. I need some no doz. 12 minutes before we get to an interesting point. The Chief Justice was the only person on the commission who saw the autopsy of the head? 16:00 min. Geezus. The pathologists didn't change their opinion of the head wound??? This is pointless.
klan cheerleaders ?
Continued : charles cabal also fired by JFK , his brother George was mayor of Dallas and changed parade route so car had to take that sharp turn and thus slow down from Houston onto elm by SBD. Mac Wallace’s finger prints on box in snipers nest . LBJs lawyer Ed Clark from austin owned Texas , Texas justice picking the judges and paying them to make a case go a certain way
No he didn't nobody changed the motorcade route.
Wallace print was not in the snipers nest
Nobody changed the route. Lee just worked there. Lucky for him, eh ? Only Lee's prints on the boxes.
You have mental problems, JulieGoff1731.
Excellent! Just crushes the life out of conspiracy theory! (The comments are also hilarious in their ineptitude to retort to any of this information.) Well done!
Agreed!
Continued : Craig Zirbel book . Unfair to Oswald he never got a trial , Jack Ruby was made by the mob to silence Oswald as he knew what was gonna happen ( he wasn’t a great shooter ) m, now If he possibly did it you can’t question him . Bugliosi was brilliant w Manson but an idiot on this issue , Gerald posner book terrible , this panel is a joke ! Also JFks body was hijacked somewhere beteeen Dallas and DC and the wound dr’d up prior to photos . A lot of this was ordered from LBJ and Hoover , who completely controlled the warren report , those men’s hands were tied . And to have Allen Dulles on warren commission , a man who was fired by JFK after bay of pigs
Wrong Bugliosi was brilliant in this case.
@juliegoff1731 Believing that Ruby silenced Oswald for the mob is to believe that the mob killed Kennedy. Since there is no evidence for the mob killing Kennedy, the beliefs are based on moonshine.
You are stupid, Julie.