Nutrition Tier Lists: Fats & Oils

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  • Just like a squeaky wheel on a car, for those of you who have been asking for this forever, here's your oil. And your fats while you're at it.
    Fats & Oils are one of the most overlooked food groups out there and undeniably one of the most controversial.
    And it's not hard to see why. It's a complex topic with a lot of conflicting science that we have to use in our everyday cooking.
    However, when people actually study the fats instead of just chewing it, we do find some pretty compelling evidence on which ones we should be using regularly, occasionally and never. Let's discuss.
    What I Would Change:
    Not necessarily a change, but in regards to many vegetable oils, especially seed oils, we do see a very similar situation as with our Grain Tier List. The fact that human involvement can be the real enemy.
    If I were to change anything in hindsight, it would be to move Canola, Safflower and Sunflower Oils down to the C Tier, while acknowledging their potentially healthier, monounsaturated, often cold pressed versions, but letting the actual visual itself serve as a warning for the potentially more harmful ones.
    All nutrient data is pulled from the USDA's National Nutrient Database for Standard Reference.
    Introducing: Fats & Oils - 0:00
    Almond Oil - 3:58
    Avocado Oil - 4:46
    Butter - 5:17
    Canola Oil (Read Description) - 6:48
    Chicken Fat - 7:41
    Coconut Oil - 8:38
    Corn Oil - 10:02
    Cottonseed Oil - 11:25
    Duck Fat - 11:56
    Flaxseed Oil - 12:33
    Ghee - 13:31
    Goose Fat - 14:24
    Grapeseed Oil - 14:49
    Hazelnut Oil - 15:26
    Lard - 15:50
    Margarine - 16:32
    Olive Oil - 17:45
    Palm Oil - 18:49
    Peanut Oil - 19:27
    Rice Brain Oil - 19:54
    Safflower Oil (Read Description) - 20:33
    Sesame Oil - 21:25
    Shortening - 22:06
    Soybean Oil - 22:49
    Sunflower Oil (Read Description) - 23:15
    Tallow - 23:53
    Walnut Oil - 24:28
    Conclusion - 25:11
    #fat #oil #nutrition #nutritiontierlist #lipids #diet #tierlist #calories #weightloss

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  • @Talon_Fitness
    @Talon_Fitness  Рік тому +843

    Keep in mind that everything I would change in these videos is always in the description and in hindsight I do have a few notes for this list in particular addressed there.

    • @michaelschenk5503
      @michaelschenk5503 Рік тому +17

      Thanks for your amazing videos. However one oil you forgot is Hemp seed oil. It’s my favourite and was always told it had amazing ratio of omega 3 to omega 6

    • @arielog1941
      @arielog1941 Рік тому +12

      agreed
      But to be informed is part of our responsibility.

    • @Sagesat
      @Sagesat Рік тому +50

      Respectfully, many will recognize these ingredients and assume you were referring to processed oils, especially as you used the processed counterpart as an image for the list. Also there's a lot of misleading information out there and no one really knows for sure what fats are healthy, especially as it probably depends on various factors such as genes. One thing that's healthy for me could be detrimental for your health. Sadly no one knows for sure. Regardless, I appreciate the video and the open discussion on such a controversial subject.

    • @Don2006
      @Don2006 Рік тому +24

      This video was incredibly informative and useful. But "best and typically most natural state" can be ambiguous. For example, I'm guessing canola oil was presented in its refined state (I've never heard of cold-pressed canola and the numbers seem to match up), but this wasn't explicitly mentioned. Specifying virgin vs refined would've been perfect.

    • @moaoriginal1
      @moaoriginal1 Рік тому +6

      Please do one for herbs like parsley, basil , etc 🙏

  • @steveng9921
    @steveng9921 Рік тому +2000

    The highly processed seed oils should all be F-tier.

    • @Bottleobleach42069
      @Bottleobleach42069 Рік тому

      There is literally no actual research basis for this bs phobia of seed oils. Just a bunch of health guru pseudo science crap

    • @StandingTALL4now
      @StandingTALL4now Рік тому +184

      Its a shame its hard to find unrefined ones, unrefined high quality sunflower seed oil is actually really good.

    • @arcticsnow7505
      @arcticsnow7505 Рік тому +48

      I'm still new to all this nutrition stuff, what's wrong with processed seed oils?

    • @boysteacher3818
      @boysteacher3818 Рік тому +326

      ​@@arcticsnow7505 The processing and refining tend to involve high heat and pressure which destroys a lot of good nutrients and creates toxic byproducts. It doesn't help the fact that many oil manufacturers uses a cocktail of suspicious chemicals used to purify the oil.

    • @Moonshine1234
      @Moonshine1234 Рік тому +48

      Doesn’t it lower testosterone

  • @melongl5697
    @melongl5697 Рік тому +1760

    It’s important to mention how some oils, such as canola, palm , and safflower are usually highly processed, and it becomes a trans fat after hydrogenation.

    • @guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943
      @guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943 Рік тому +130

      Really important mention

    • @merricc5218
      @merricc5218 Рік тому +145

      why did he not mention this

    • @reigoemon2229
      @reigoemon2229 Рік тому +163

      He talked about it in the “Trans Fat, the real killers” video but I do wonder why not in this

    • @charmainefong9272
      @charmainefong9272 Рік тому +38

      @@reigoemon2229 he talked abt it with the margarine and shortening

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 Рік тому +90

      As of 2020 that is no longer true for any products sold in the US.

  • @Ninjaananas
    @Ninjaananas Рік тому +1204

    These tier lists are always a delight.

    • @nadmoi
      @nadmoi Рік тому +13

      I would put them in the A tier of UA-cam videos.

    • @SmashBrosBrawl
      @SmashBrosBrawl 9 місяців тому +12

      This one is super wrong though. Seed oils are all F

    • @flamefusion8963
      @flamefusion8963 9 місяців тому

      @@SmashBrosBrawllol

    • @vvexxiorr241
      @vvexxiorr241 9 місяців тому +1

      @@SmashBrosBrawl Also how tf is chicken fat higher up than tallow and lard

    • @zwatchxd9175
      @zwatchxd9175 8 місяців тому

      ⁠@@vvexxiorr241the tier list is about health, fats from chickens, ducks, turkeys, etc. are generally healthier than fats from cows and pigs

  • @chihao9960
    @chihao9960 Рік тому +1178

    One of the issues that healthy people care about is spices. Looking forward to a video about spices.

    • @julianmaxloe1646
      @julianmaxloe1646 Рік тому +125

      I've never thought about spices in a nutrition sense, would be a very interesting video fs

    • @rellekkanperspective7508
      @rellekkanperspective7508 Рік тому +181

      If spices are somehow an issue nutritionally, I am decidedly UNHEALTHY

    • @father042
      @father042 Рік тому +73

      I'm not sure if there are any spices without health benefits

    • @dillberrystew6205
      @dillberrystew6205 Рік тому +43

      besides ginger and turmeric they seem for the most part to add nothing

    • @dillberrystew6205
      @dillberrystew6205 Рік тому +5

      best to research for yourself though it is just those 2 that are always promoted

  • @davidtheloafward
    @davidtheloafward Рік тому +752

    Great list! I'm happy you gave margarine the disrespect it deserves. Horrible product.

    • @InspiriumESOO
      @InspiriumESOO Рік тому

      Yeah belongs in the same unhealthy category as animal fats.

    • @LuigiFTMario
      @LuigiFTMario Рік тому +16

      I was shocked to find out that margarine is so bad. What am I gonna eat now? AAAHHHH

    • @3trilogy
      @3trilogy Рік тому +94

      ​@@LuigiFTMario Almost anything would be better so stop poisoning yourself.

    • @xKeville
      @xKeville Рік тому +73

      @@LuigiFTMario You have to be joking, no way margarine is that big of a staple in your diet

    • @stevethea5250
      @stevethea5250 Рік тому +1

      @@3trilogy but the shortening !?

  • @boomerix
    @boomerix 7 місяців тому +145

    It's quite incredible how Margarine managed to propagandise itself as the healthier option to lard and butter.
    The last time I mentioned to someone that Butter is far healthier than Margarine I was looked at if I was crazy.

    • @DeepRacer-zr4yp
      @DeepRacer-zr4yp 3 місяці тому

      50 years of bad science and paid studies really did a lot of damage to us, our health and brainwashed everyone to avoid the good and healthy animal fats and go for the cheap and unhealthy highly processed and heated vegentable oils.

    • @yannizvetkoff6787
      @yannizvetkoff6787 Місяць тому +1

      Fr

    • @DeepRacer-zr4yp
      @DeepRacer-zr4yp Місяць тому +1

      I'm happy more people finally realise these lies

    • @arielog1941
      @arielog1941 Місяць тому +1

      If you put margarine in the corner of your garage open, not even bugs will eat it.
      Crisco, too. A couple of years later, forgot everything during the big C event, I just found a Crisco in my greenhouse.
      ( experimenting with heaters) No bugs found.

    • @limitisillusion7
      @limitisillusion7 27 днів тому +1

      I would take margarine against butter in a head to head, easily.

  • @koolqeee
    @koolqeee Рік тому +199

    I love that you're consistently sticking to this info-mercial / powerpoint presentation style theme. This is peak video editing and I'm here for it.

    • @Talon_Fitness
      @Talon_Fitness  Рік тому +71

      I think its a little too late to change it either way

    • @franciscorios7255
      @franciscorios7255 Рік тому +15

      ​@@Talon_Fitness we love it anyway 🎉🎉

    • @theonlyone1433
      @theonlyone1433 6 місяців тому +8

      I like the style. No distractions, simple and with the focus on the information being transmitted.

  • @harrymaciolek9629
    @harrymaciolek9629 Рік тому +748

    Lard never recovered from the attacks against it in advertising campaigns for Crisco, Procter & Gambles’s cottonseed oil product. This occurred around 1910.

    • @InspiriumESOO
      @InspiriumESOO Рік тому

      Just stop ruining your health by eating a high fat diet regardless of source. Blue zones in the world eat close to 80 carb 10 protein 10 fat.

    • @ilavalolipop
      @ilavalolipop Рік тому +19

      Interesting, thanks for the info 👍

    • @danstone8783
      @danstone8783 Рік тому +91

      and the sugar lobby

    • @lovaloo763
      @lovaloo763 Рік тому +54

      I've always felt a bit antsy about buying a tub of lard, and this is the true reason. I remember seeing the Crisco smear campaign ads!

    • @signs80
      @signs80 Рік тому +27

      Lard is fine, but note that eating a diet high in saturated fat is not going to be optimal for cardiovascular health compared to otherwise. That doesn't mean lard is BAD, as long as you reduce saturated fat from other sources it's perfectly fine

  • @mattia1026
    @mattia1026 Рік тому +233

    I don't remember the last content creator I used to be so excited about for new content dropped. Keep it up Talon!

  • @revo1verrock
    @revo1verrock Рік тому +199

    *Takes seat, sips olive oil, takes a bite of butter*
    Okay DocDoc, give me the bad news

  • @petrhanzl8399
    @petrhanzl8399 Рік тому +92

    can we all appriciate how much work Talon put in these tier lists?

    • @dylanwilliams7868
      @dylanwilliams7868 Рік тому

      True, canola oil is very high in cholesterol

    • @sneedler8661
      @sneedler8661 11 місяців тому

      ​@@Mapleboi404bruh

    • @LevelUpWellness
      @LevelUpWellness 9 місяців тому +1

      @@dylanwilliams7868What? I just be missing something here. Canola oil is free of cholesterol since it’s a plant product.

  • @clobbopus_used_beat
    @clobbopus_used_beat Рік тому +26

    You're providing such an important service to myself and every other undereducated American. There's no doubt that I'm healthier from having watched your videos and the way I think about food in general has changed a ton. To me, one big barrier to eating better is figuring out what the hell is actually better. As well as having variety in what I eat without sacrificing nutrition. Between the grain, and meat videos alone I'm eating very, very well in every sense of the word

  • @reggieferns
    @reggieferns Рік тому +11

    Never clicked on any video so fast. Love these tier lists. I have literally taken notes from your vids to help me shop more of the top tier items.

  • @noticemesenpai9754
    @noticemesenpai9754 Рік тому +267

    keep in mind that there was a research looking into avocado oils, and most of them did not contain 100% avocado oil, but it was mixed with other oils.

    • @Talon_Fitness
      @Talon_Fitness  Рік тому +186

      Unfortunately that is the case with a lot of them. Not much we can do besides be more selective

    • @deekasman5018
      @deekasman5018 Рік тому +37

      Similarly, with olive oil, many are blends of leftover processing of different olive oils from different countries. There are certifications in olive oil, that you can look for. I wonder if there is a way to certify how seed oils are processed. Great video talon.

    • @AosaBid
      @AosaBid Рік тому +16

      Gotta read the label on everything these days

    • @Blakostructr
      @Blakostructr Рік тому +5

      From what I understand if you were to get 100% avocado oil, it wouldn't have that high smoke point, and it would have an avocado taste to it

    • @danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307
      @danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 Рік тому

      @@Talon_Fitness "margarine" hasnt existed anywhere for over 40 years! so what are you talking about?

  • @appskobadr5321
    @appskobadr5321 Рік тому +7

    You're the only OG that makes these concise nutrition tier lists which helps my decisionmaking in the right foods! Much gratitude for you

  • @DaboooogA
    @DaboooogA Рік тому +25

    Fascinating to see how we've changed our attitude to certain fats/oils in recent years

  • @TedHough68
    @TedHough68 Рік тому +8

    I really genuinely love these videos, thanks for them! cool to see stuff broken down like this.

  • @ilavalolipop
    @ilavalolipop Рік тому +53

    I love this one. Yes, oils and fats are so controversial. And as you said, justifying your own choices is the best we can do. I’m a big believer in fats as part of a healthy diet and will personally never be leaving them out. I was happy to see all my favorite oils in B tier or above based on your ratings, and processed oils I already avoid like shortening and margarine in the F tier. And I learned that I aught to give hazelnut oil a try too!

    • @quickcube2834
      @quickcube2834 Рік тому +1

      Fats are essential like DHA and EPA and DPA and also your Heart is working on monounsaturated fats, but oils and isolated fats are not a health food, firstly they decrease blood and oxygen containt in it, and also they can oxidize and change really easy in Oxidants like AGE‘s and trans fats, because there is no fiber separating from the air besides them and oxygen is an extrem strong oxidizer, not to forget that heat catalyse this process enorm.
      Unroasted nuts contain 5000 AGEs per 100g roasted nuts 9000 while olive oils contains 11000 AGE‘s per 100g and Sesam oil and Butter contain more then 20.000 AGE‘s per 100g.
      The only options for fats are unprocessed nuts and of course low in saturated fats because they are cell toxic and block the sugar metabolism and increases your risk of CVD.
      Walnuts in combination with Haselnuts are the best choice.

    • @ideadrive44
      @ideadrive44 Рік тому +4

      Sunflower/Safflower/Canola oil are all highly processed

    • @IAMMARTICUS1470
      @IAMMARTICUS1470 Рік тому

      @@ideadrive44 Usually yes, but you can find higher quality versions of all of those. You have to search though and pay a lot more.
      The cheap stuff in the supermarkets are all F tier.

    • @khairulnizam5425
      @khairulnizam5425 11 місяців тому

      I am so happy that I can justify using duck fat!

  • @Dark-uk4oz
    @Dark-uk4oz Рік тому +6

    Been waiting for this one! Thanks for the amazing content as always.

  • @JohnZannisPies
    @JohnZannisPies Рік тому +245

    Animal fats being on the same tier as canola oil hurts my soul

    • @Gaibreel
      @Gaibreel Рік тому +17

      I weeped that day

    • @BeatBoxBrian
      @BeatBoxBrian Рік тому +1

      Where do you suppose they ought to be in comparison?

    • @JohnZannisPies
      @JohnZannisPies Рік тому +85

      @@BeatBoxBrian Tallow-S
      Canola-F

    • @BeatBoxBrian
      @BeatBoxBrian Рік тому +20

      @@JohnZannisPies haha yeah based on how my body reacts to all these, I agree with you!

    • @PANTHERA369
      @PANTHERA369 Рік тому +42

      @@JohnZannisPies Exactly !!!!!!!
      Almost all raw animal fats are S tier.
      All heated , oxidized plant oils are F tier

  • @PossiblyABird
    @PossiblyABird Рік тому +3

    Ayy I asked for this while back for this, 10/10 channel never stop

  • @ElijsDima
    @ElijsDima Рік тому +113

    Could you do a list on Organ Meats specifically? (livers, hearts, lungs, kidneys etc. - ppl say they are good but surely they aren't equally good).

    • @danytalksmusic
      @danytalksmusic Рік тому +17

      1. liver
      2. kidney
      3. heart
      there you go

    • @boomer8760
      @boomer8760 Рік тому +7

      ​@@danytalksmusic how about gizzard or gut? I like eating them more then 3 on your list

    • @danytalksmusic
      @danytalksmusic Рік тому +3

      @@boomer8760 they're just not as nutritious because they don't really store many nutrients. the functions of the liver, heart, and kidney include distributing nutrients, so it makes sense that they store many as well

    • @nahor88
      @nahor88 Рік тому +3

      These lists are geared for an American audience, and most Americans find the concept of eating organs disgusting. We tend to associate it with horror/zombies, not even kidding. Liver is only commonly eaten organ here, liver and onions most commonly, and it's considered a bottom tier protein.
      Truthfully there is nothing wrong with eating organs if they are prepared correctly.

    • @Bruh-jw2ze
      @Bruh-jw2ze Рік тому +2

      Even brain, bone marrow and cartilage

  • @aaronjohnson914
    @aaronjohnson914 Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much for these vids, always a great watch. Also enjoy the small bits of humor you get in them!

  • @leomarincastillo8945
    @leomarincastillo8945 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the work you are doing. Each of these videos take a lot of work and I appreciate it

  • @vgman94
    @vgman94 Рік тому +22

    This validated a lot of things my mother has said to me over the years that I always was skeptical about. Well, that’s surprising.

    • @youngdrip8023
      @youngdrip8023 Рік тому +6

      damn dude. do your own research instead of waiting for youtubers to do it for you. matter of fact, start your own to help him out with these tier lists

  • @chechli
    @chechli Рік тому +43

    You should do a tier list about different kinds of pickles and ferments, and maybe compare some of them how they stack against their fresh equivalents. I've heard a lot of good things about them, but I'm curious how good they are exactly.

    • @MossyMozart
      @MossyMozart Рік тому +1

      @Łukasz Chechliński - Although there a few pickled items that I like, there is so very much salt in the brines. >_

  • @StayPrimal
    @StayPrimal Рік тому +76

    I couldn't agree more when you said that fat are necessary. I used to be skinny my entire life training way to much and eating very little, and when I finally took some weight I felt SO MUCH better. Like incredibly better. A bit of fat is essential for the well being, at least it was for me.

    • @bazaza2363
      @bazaza2363 Рік тому +15

      The problem is that the average (non planned) modern diet typically includes excess fat. So avoiding it as much as possible equates to doing the bare minimum

    • @istivanp8747
      @istivanp8747 Рік тому +24

      Growing up in north America, there is always this stigma against eating fats because of the obesity crisis, nobody ever talked about being too low on fat and how unhealthy it is to be underweight.

    • @bazaza2363
      @bazaza2363 Рік тому +10

      @@istivanp8747 that only applies if youre below 8% bodyfat and youre not a body builder. Other than, annorexia is an issue. Fact of the matter is, in western nations, we consume more than we require. So overeating overshadows undereatimg

    • @Randomness65535
      @Randomness65535 Рік тому +8

      Also used to be underweight and after putting on some weight until my BMI was perfect felt like superman. Even noticed basic functions like hunger and thirst actually existing.
      Skelly mode isn't great and neither is being fat.

    • @dillberrystew6205
      @dillberrystew6205 Рік тому

      @@istivanp8747 that is very true! i feel that contributed to my history of eating disorders dramatically but having done my own research and watched well-researched videos like this i have to come to terms with the idea that fat does not mean fat :)

  • @nordyxy
    @nordyxy Рік тому +2

    I've been waiting for this one. Thank you :)

  • @_Painted
    @_Painted Рік тому +17

    Something interesting/unfortunate about palm oil is that it actually naturally contains a much higher vitamin content when first harvested, but the vitamins cause the oil to be colored orange so they're removed and bleached from the oil before selling it in order to fit usual consumer expectations. If most consumers preferred the healthier, less processed version of palm oil, the producers could actually just skip that processing step to make what I would consider a superior product.

    • @martinakerman3515
      @martinakerman3515 3 дні тому

      Palm oil should be in F tier, besides it's bad for the environment

  • @Lunishta
    @Lunishta Рік тому +12

    I'm very thankful for this tier list as someone mostly on keto. I had to make the hard decision to eat "normally" and at maintenance during weekends to manage cravings and prevent binge eating during the week 😢. It always feels like I'm getting a Bad Grade in ED/weightloss dieting even though it keeps me on track for more days at at time. So knowing the best fats to be eating during the week is very nice.

    • @scrapzz2696
      @scrapzz2696 Рік тому +2

      same here! I'm also on keto and I use mainly lard and butter when cooking steaks etc, but I think after watching this ill definitely be looking more into using hazelnut and avocado oil

    • @Lunishta
      @Lunishta Рік тому +1

      @@scrapzz2696 I would love to use avocado oil because it's so common in keto recipes, unfortunately my housemate is allergic and I am developing an allery to it. Its still mild and I dont always react so I can still eat avocados sometimes but I know one day it'll be anaphylactic too.

  • @camilimac
    @camilimac Рік тому +2

    I look forward for these lists! Thank you!

  • @thetimestormow5500
    @thetimestormow5500 Рік тому +1

    Loving these tier lists, very informative and fun to watch! Your voice is very smooth. Weirdly enough, you really sound like VinylPumaGaming too, like Fallout 4 Top 10 X.

  • @Casual_PKBeats
    @Casual_PKBeats Рік тому +30

    My two favorite fats sitting at the top tier, love to see it. Never tried hazelnut oil, but that sounds good, so I might try that one out too

    • @MossyMozart
      @MossyMozart Рік тому

      @PKBeats - I was not aware that hazelnut oil was a thing to be had, so I thank Mr Talon for including that.

  • @Zombiesneedyou
    @Zombiesneedyou Рік тому +5

    “Canola oil, also known as rapeseed oil, but I’m not gonna call it that” 😂

  • @selinamularz9194
    @selinamularz9194 Рік тому

    Thank you for making this one. I've been excited for it.

  • @CptDangernoodle
    @CptDangernoodle Рік тому

    Thank you for this great video, along with the others on your channel. It's incredibly valuable

  • @malcolmx5167
    @malcolmx5167 Рік тому +5

    Thanks for the hard work as always!

  • @arielog1941
    @arielog1941 Рік тому +49

    The oils with the least processing
    and the ones that humans have used for centuries
    are the best choices.

    • @vgamedude12
      @vgamedude12 Рік тому +17

      Agree. I'll take the ones that have been consumed for ages over anything else.

    • @SPIDEYFNA
      @SPIDEYFNA Рік тому +1

      What are those? I am recently learning about this topic.

    • @arielog1941
      @arielog1941 Рік тому +12

      @@SPIDEYFNA olive oil has been eaten for centuries, not seed oils.

    • @vgamedude12
      @vgamedude12 Рік тому +20

      @@SPIDEYFNA olive oil, animal fats

    • @SPIDEYFNA
      @SPIDEYFNA Рік тому

      Thank you for your answers

  • @Me-vz1rl
    @Me-vz1rl 4 місяці тому

    i have watched all your food tier lists. love them good job

  • @CakeBomb74
    @CakeBomb74 Рік тому

    Yes another list! Love it when you drop a nutrition tier list

  • @underscoreMino
    @underscoreMino Рік тому +3

    Definitely happy about my choice of oils after watching this. I keep 3 options in my pantry - ghee for meat (as I love the flavor), sesame oil for occasional flavoring and extra virgin olive oil for literally everything else. I never deep fry anymore, but I used to use sunflower oil for that as it's the cheapest oil where I live.
    Great vid.

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 Рік тому +1

      Palm oil is cheaper than sunflower oil

    • @cristhianzerimar
      @cristhianzerimar 8 місяців тому

      I like ghee/butter or lard/tallow for meats. Avocado oil for veggies because it's neutral. Olive oil for dressings and sesame oil for certain dishes because of it's flavor. Glad I'm not doing too bad.

  • @ivanlam5131
    @ivanlam5131 Рік тому +16

    These tier lists are great. I have been waiting for this one as fats are very confusing. Saturated vs unsaturated, mono vs poly. Then trans vs cis. Then with pufa ratios and then with 4hne and deodorization processes. It's such a mine field I am still a bit confused but this list surely helps.

    • @mrgalaxy396
      @mrgalaxy396 Рік тому +3

      An easy heuristic is not to go crazy on fat content, use minimally processed plant-based oils and fish oils, moderate your intake of animal fat and avoid the trans fats like the pleague.
      Unless you're trying to heavily optimize for some condition or fitness goal, this should do. Wild caught salmon and sardines for that omega 3s, extra virgin olive oil is a fairly safe dressing and cooking choice (avoid deep frying in general), animal fat is a mixed bag depending on your sources but some pasture raised chicken (eggs included) and the ocassional grass fed beef should be fine. Pork is okay too again depending on your sources, the healthier the animal was fed and lived the better for you.
      Butter/ghee is a good favoring tool in small amounts, I like to add a small knob of butter in my olive oil to add flavor. Nut butters are good for snacks in smaller amounts, make sure they are well made and not processed sugar bombs. I don't use seed oils much other than sunflower seed, but I find sunflower oil is a totally ok option in cooking and dressings in moderation.
      Best to not overthink it and not overdo it.

  • @alexf3036
    @alexf3036 9 місяців тому +1

    I love your lists (this one included) because of how unbiased they seem.

  • @lovaloo763
    @lovaloo763 Рік тому +1

    The nuances of healthy fats, trans fats, and the divisive seed oil discussions I've seen have left me a bit overwhelmed on this subject. I'm so happy you've made a video discussing the benefits as well as the risks associated with each of these fat sources. I plan on diversifying, but prior to seeing this video I was getting my fats from mainly butter and olive oil, and using avocado oil when cooking due to its high smoke point.

  • @-will-1389
    @-will-1389 Рік тому +52

    No way butter isn’t A tear, great video but butter shouldn’t be on the same level as something like canola oil

    • @dcsaint8775
      @dcsaint8775 Рік тому

      Exactly what I said!

    • @fuo2275
      @fuo2275 Рік тому +2

      It’s high B, you can consider it low A

  • @Divinefapper
    @Divinefapper Рік тому +10

    It's a nice list - as long as you ignore all the latest research on seed oils. On paper many seed oils look fantastic, but the reality is quite the opposite.

    • @lindsaywickstrom9961
      @lindsaywickstrom9961 Рік тому +3

      All of the latest research I've read has shown that seed oils are healthy. What are you referring to?

    • @Divinefapper
      @Divinefapper Рік тому +6

      ​@@lindsaywickstrom9961 Probably need to research a bit further than the popularized junk science. Google scholar seed oil oxidative stress, seed oil mitochondrial dysfunction/mitochondrial damage, seed oil aldehydes for a start.
      There’s an okay mini documentary on youtube called ”the $100 billion dollar ingredient making your food toxic” which summarizes the research pretty well.

    • @Divinefapper
      @Divinefapper Рік тому +3

      @@lindsaywickstrom9961 For example just yesterday this was published (can't post link, google the name):
      "High fried food consumption impacts anxiety and depression due to lipid metabolism disturbance and neuroinflammation"
      "We demonstrated that long-term exposure to acrylamide induces anxiety- and depressive-like behaviors via oxidative stress-mediated neuroinflammation, and unravel the underlying mechanism that PPAR signaling pathway mediates acrylamide-induced lipid metabolism disorder in brain."
      The study is about ACRYLAMIDE which is a toxic byproduct from mainly frying plant-based foods, such as potatoes:
      "Acrylamide is a substance that forms through a natural chemical reaction between sugars and asparagine, an amino acid, IN PLANT-BASED FOODS - including POTATO and CEREAL-GRAIN-based foods."
      And here we can see how different fats used in cooking produce acrylamide (google the study):
      "Acrylamide formation in vegetable oils and animal fats during heat treatment"
      "A direct correlation was observed between oxidation values and acrylamide formation in different cooking oils. Significantly less acrylamide was produced in saturated animal fat than in unsaturated cooking oil, with 366ng/g in lard and 211ng/g in ghee versus 2447ng/g in soy oil, followed by palm olein with 1442ng/g."
      As we've always known, animal fats are the most resistant to oxidation. Least acrylamide produced when cooking with animal fats.

    • @pegatrisedmice
      @pegatrisedmice Місяць тому

      ​@@Divinefapperfried foods are bad therefore seed oils are bad. ok

  • @robinlandry518
    @robinlandry518 4 місяці тому

    This is probably the most concise, thorough and understandable list of facts I've ever found
    Thank you

  • @davedavidson8892
    @davedavidson8892 Рік тому +1

    These videos have been really helpful in figuring out what ingredients to buy for meal creations

  • @ryan-grimes
    @ryan-grimes Рік тому +48

    Great video, but why was level of refinement not considered more? Aren’t soybean and canola oil usually only available in highly refined forms? I feel like this makes them much worse than what the tiers reflect. Also, I’m curious what you think about research on cooking stability, which shows evoo to be the most stable even though it has a low smoke point.

    • @Talon_Fitness
      @Talon_Fitness  Рік тому +54

      I feel like this point is incredibly simple. Kinda like in the drink one, if it is super sugary alot of my points are moot. In this one, take the healthiest oils and refine them, and alot of the points are moot. But I feel like anyone who actually cares about their health will be able to put that together. So what was I supposed to do? Say after every oil that refinement matters and then not be able to actually tell people how to find evidence of refinement because it is incredibly inconsistent from place to place? I already conceded that I wasn't going to be able to solve everything with this one. A lot of it comes down to the individual making the judgement call, based on what I found. As it always has been.

    • @ryan-grimes
      @ryan-grimes Рік тому +8

      @@Talon_Fitness regardless, you did a great job. It’s unfortunate that refinement has the potential to be very detrimental to health but is so hard to research. The importance of smoke point also seems to be hard to nail down in my experience. Thanks for the reply.

    • @hrodvithit
      @hrodvithit Рік тому +4

      ​@@Talon_Fitness 4 hour long tier list that splits every oil in to different categories of refinement and ranks them B) Like for people asking its basically a guarantee that if your premises processed food has oil's in it, they're gonna be the bottom of the barrel oils, but buying a bottle of extra virgin olive oil is probably all gucci.

    • @billl5297
      @billl5297 Рік тому +3

      @@Talon_Fitness No, all seed oils are processed way beyond what animal fat is processed at. It is impossible to find seed oil that isn't deodaraized and industrially processed. Even cold pressed seed oils are terrible for your health anyway - I HATE SEED OILS

  • @bowengass4215
    @bowengass4215 Рік тому +30

    Another tier list that I would like to see is Protein Quality and Bioavailability foods/supplements. Eggs, egg whites, casein, whey, beef, chicken, etc looking specifically at the protein quality.

    • @knowledgeiswealth.
      @knowledgeiswealth. 9 місяців тому +1

      Milk tops in protein quality and bioavailability

    • @GrainMuncher
      @GrainMuncher 6 місяців тому +1

      Are you really that lazy? This is one google search away. There’s something called the DIAAS which serves this exact purpose already

    • @bowengass4215
      @bowengass4215 6 місяців тому +1

      @@GrainMuncher What's your problem? He asked what other tier list video I would like to see and this is one of them. I know I could google it, but I would like to hear what Talon Fitness has to say. He tends to give different perspectives on foods that I haven't considered before. Plus, it gives him another video idea (which he asked for). So, it's literally Win-Win for everybody...except for maybe you, I guess. 🤷‍♂

    • @GrainMuncher
      @GrainMuncher 6 місяців тому

      @bowengass4215 There's nothing else to say though. The quality and amino-acid profile of different sources of protein is already quantified in a single easily digestible number. What would he even say in the video? You can get the same information in a 10-second search.

    • @knowledgeiswealth.
      @knowledgeiswealth. 6 місяців тому +1

      Hello gentleman can i use this moment tell you the goodness of milk and milk protein if its consumed daily it help our body in different ways
      I like mine coming from a white american women

  • @Radhaun
    @Radhaun Рік тому

    I so enjoy these tier lists, I also really enjoy the breakdown between different items. I wasn't even aware some of these oils existed as cooking oils, so it was very interesting to learn. I'm also glad that my go-to frying fat is at least not at the bottom of the list! (although it probably matters little in fried foods as long as the smoke point is high enough)

  • @MyName-wq6xz
    @MyName-wq6xz Рік тому

    YESSSSSS thank you! This was the video I was waiting for.

  • @ajaxplay8
    @ajaxplay8 Рік тому +6

    Just came home to find this in my inbox. Our voices have been heard!

  • @elsensei2288
    @elsensei2288 Рік тому

    I've waiting this for a long time. Thanks a lot

  • @hitslikefacebook2880
    @hitslikefacebook2880 Рік тому

    Amazing as always, cant wait for the next Tier List!

  • @nordhocks525
    @nordhocks525 Рік тому +36

    I think a tier list about different supps would be very interesting.

    • @ttkok11
      @ttkok11 Рік тому +3

      Creatine, whey protein, caffeine, multivitamins s tier the rest f tier

    • @seanharris8419
      @seanharris8419 Рік тому

      What the guy above me said. Outside a handful of them, they’re mostly a waste of money that you’re better off spending on real food.

    • @seradjlarfi6905
      @seradjlarfi6905 Рік тому +1

      @@ttkok11 pre workout also is useful, has caffeine and gives you a good pump, don't forget electrolyte supplements which are also useful if you do a bunch of cardio or play sports

    • @ttkok11
      @ttkok11 Рік тому

      @@seradjlarfi6905 electrolytes are fine but just some salt will do the trick. What i don't like about preworkout is the added sugars, overdosed caffeine and other substances that don't even work so you are better off with just cafeïne and electrolytes.

    • @seradjlarfi6905
      @seradjlarfi6905 Рік тому

      @@ttkok11 most preworkouts don't have sugar

  • @batuhanefe6911
    @batuhanefe6911 Рік тому +3

    my favorite nutrition content love it!!

  • @stephenmartinez2591
    @stephenmartinez2591 Рік тому

    I was thinking to myself just this morning man Ik it wouldn’t really make sense but I sure would love a Fats tier list, and here we are, he is truly an artist at work

  • @jordfolk
    @jordfolk Рік тому

    i've been waiting on this video. Thank you so much.

  • @cips35
    @cips35 Рік тому +21

    Butter should be S

  • @bobnewkirk7003
    @bobnewkirk7003 Рік тому +4

    I appreciate the video and agree with your ranking. My caution to anyone who is purchasing a new oil as a result of this video is that oils are some of the most intentionally adulterated substances available on the market so be careful when making your purchases. Often a more expensive oil will be cut with a less expensive (and less healthy) oil to make a higher degree of profit, and unfortunately short of a lab analysis it is almost impossible to tell adulterated oil from not.
    Personally we cook with Avocado oil and Ghee, and use Olive oil in low-temperature applications. As time goes on I am skewing more towards Ghee as you can make it yourself from a known source and it has a Higher smoke point than a lot of other animal fats making it ideal for cooking. I avoid Seed oils in general because of adulteration, inflammation issues, and some of the ethical issues in sourcing them.

  • @travishartzler9155
    @travishartzler9155 Рік тому +1

    Still the most useful UA-cam channel. Thanks!

  • @NikeSimmons
    @NikeSimmons Рік тому +1

    Congrats on the 10th tier list ... enjoy the videos 👍

  • @meringue3288
    @meringue3288 Рік тому +7

    I'm majoring in nutrition and your channel is helping me so much to stay motivated

  • @eyebrid
    @eyebrid Рік тому +5

    Another excellent video. My only criticism is minor: the bullet point section would be easier to read if it were aligned left.

  • @didiii580
    @didiii580 Рік тому

    Thank you so much for making this video. I wrote you a comment the other day and know you made my wish come true. Thank you so so much.

  • @ani0558
    @ani0558 Рік тому

    you’re my favorite yt account i love these videos

  • @connorsmith1135
    @connorsmith1135 Рік тому +3

    Been using avaocsdo oil for a year or two, I love it it lasts a long time too ! So glad this video said it was a top tier oil !

  • @bananomet4052
    @bananomet4052 9 місяців тому +21

    Top tier: EV olive oil, coconut oil, avocado oil, beef tallow, butter, ghee.
    F tier: everything else.
    I started following Dr. Ekberg and he really makes order of the conflicting information out there.
    I was 116kg exactly a month ago and thanks to Dr. Ekberg I am now 106kg and feel better than ever.
    #deathtosneedoils

    • @jeffseid7176
      @jeffseid7176 9 місяців тому +3

      Ghee butter TOP TIER! thank you! this is what I'm saying, my ghee butter literally has 1 ingredient

    • @HexterJexter
      @HexterJexter 6 місяців тому

      I only use butter and lard, trying to get my hands on some nice beef tallow! 72kg 180cm male, was 96 kg and lost all of this in just 2-3 months 👌

    • @highspeedrailenjoyer1045
      @highspeedrailenjoyer1045 6 місяців тому

      Seed oils are good, AS LONG AS IT IS COLD PRESSED AND NOT PROCESSED OR REFINED. Also if it oleic

    • @GrainMuncher
      @GrainMuncher 6 місяців тому +4

      @@highspeedrailenjoyer1045 yeah who doesn’t love sunflower oil with its 146:1 omega 6:3 fat ratio

    • @highspeedrailenjoyer1045
      @highspeedrailenjoyer1045 6 місяців тому

      @@GrainMuncher fair point. Though margerine(old school) is the best, I love trans fat

  • @moodilyoodily
    @moodilyoodily Рік тому +2

    Love your lists! Hazelnut oil sounds delicious, definitely going to try and track it down.

  • @gbp3616
    @gbp3616 9 місяців тому +3

    Not sure I agree with Canola in the B tier but well done video as always!!

  • @imviiku
    @imviiku 24 дні тому +4

    Mustard OIl ?

    • @marcijode
      @marcijode 15 днів тому

      I was wondering about this as well, I’ve read mostly positive reviews
      Best Wishes and Good Luck!😊

    • @SicariusYT
      @SicariusYT 7 днів тому

      B tier

  • @picklejoedeanbob
    @picklejoedeanbob 7 місяців тому +1

    Dude your videos are helping me so much.

  • @Corollsroyce
    @Corollsroyce Рік тому +1

    Keep up the great work with these videos

  • @Xindacator
    @Xindacator Рік тому +10

    This is just what I needed! I have been looking for a comprehensive guide to fats and oils, and low and behold, the master of comprehensive guides to nutrition uploaded one! God bless you sir! Also I agree with the comment section; we need a tier list on spices next (if you are able to).

  • @hachi6117
    @hachi6117 Рік тому +66

    It would be interesting if u made a tier list of dried fruits 🍇🥝🍓

    • @ticktockbam
      @ticktockbam Рік тому +31

      I think dried fruit in general is bad since they're all just sugar at that point.

    • @FigureOnAStick
      @FigureOnAStick Рік тому +3

      My guess is that it would be more or less the same as the fruit tier list. It's basically the same, just more concentrated per unit mass

    • @InspiriumESOO
      @InspiriumESOO Рік тому +3

      @@ticktockbam sugars are not bad for you. Your brain runs on sugar.

    • @henrikgostomski286
      @henrikgostomski286 Рік тому +16

      @@ticktockbam BS, dried fruits are great in moderation. Great basic ph foods

    • @nokiamobilrau
      @nokiamobilrau Рік тому

      ​@@InspiriumESOO *glucose

  • @MezmerKaiser725
    @MezmerKaiser725 Рік тому

    Nice, I've been waiting for this one!

  • @anirbanbiswas
    @anirbanbiswas Рік тому +1

    Really love the video. We are going to make food choices based on your videos because it is so good. I would like to request you to add Mustard Oil in the list as an addendum (maybe as a follow up UA-cam shorts). Although it is not used anywhere else widely, Mustard Oil is used by more than 300million people in India.

  • @alexandre588
    @alexandre588 Рік тому +5

    My ex was a margarine eater, convinced that butter was worse for you. Whereas my parents raised me to avoid overly processed foods.

  • @bskilla4892
    @bskilla4892 Рік тому +16

    What happens when we run out of lists? I need my lists.

    • @Don2006
      @Don2006 Рік тому +5

      These lists are gonna get raunchier as time goes on.

    • @yumanorfolk3103
      @yumanorfolk3103 Рік тому

      Rejection tier list is what im waiting for.

    • @swedneck
      @swedneck Рік тому

      then you list the lists

  • @corraganvalentic9804
    @corraganvalentic9804 Рік тому

    Oh yeah! My fav type of video. Thank you for another!

  • @rickhatesmisleadia7101
    @rickhatesmisleadia7101 7 місяців тому

    Yet another great and helpful video! Big thumbs up!!

  • @chuckzuzak
    @chuckzuzak Рік тому +3

    McDonald's used to cook their fries in beef tallow back in the day

  • @user-hn7hg2ec9b
    @user-hn7hg2ec9b Рік тому +3

    Babe wake up new Talon tier list just dropped

  • @joshsblee
    @joshsblee Рік тому

    Love this channel so much

  • @arthurmariano2615
    @arthurmariano2615 Рік тому +2

    Hi Talon, great list!! I think it would be pretty nice if you did a plante-based milk tier list someday, comparing them to cow's milk

  • @andyvankerkhove6902
    @andyvankerkhove6902 Рік тому +9

    Sunflower and flaxseed oil... in the A... and butter in the C.......no thanks

  • @hobotify
    @hobotify Рік тому +3

    I love these tier lists, just a little sad to see my favourite dressing oil, pumpkin seed oil, omitted from the list. It´s supposed to be healthy, not to mention it instantly makes any salad taste amazing.

    • @chaz2985
      @chaz2985 9 місяців тому

      Seed Oils aren’t healthy. Use Olive Oil.

  • @wailingalen
    @wailingalen 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanks bro for this!! I eat about four avocados a week so this made me feel a little better. I eat fish and poultry fats too and am glad that these animal fats are starting to be regarded as not as bad as they used to.

  • @gigachad3925
    @gigachad3925 Рік тому +1

    Great video! I’m not sure if the idea I’m about to suggest warrants its own video but maybe it could be a segment or something similar? Anyway, I was thinking you could try doing a nutritional tier list for naturally occurring syrups (honey, maple, agave, molasses etc…). I know their macronutrient profiles are incredibly similar but comparing their micronutrient and antioxidant profiles might be a worthy endeavor. I’ve always wondered how much of a health benefit there is from using natural syrups at all.

  • @Escobar7272
    @Escobar7272 Рік тому +13

    It’s important to mention how some oils such as soybean oil, can have harmful residue from the pesticides sprayed on them. Staying on during the duration they’re harvested.

    • @omicronrho9951
      @omicronrho9951 8 місяців тому

      I think that's too circumstantial for this video

  • @879PC
    @879PC Рік тому +6

    I legitimately use these to build a diet around

  • @habers99
    @habers99 Рік тому

    Been waiting for this one!

  • @brynn9670
    @brynn9670 Рік тому

    Really appreciate your videos! Been here since the Nuts™️ list

  • @johnfromwales6713
    @johnfromwales6713 Рік тому +3

    Babe, wake up! The new Talon Fitness tier list just dropped!

  • @theultimategamer8322
    @theultimategamer8322 Місяць тому +3

    Musterd oil?

  • @jannisjt2547
    @jannisjt2547 4 місяці тому +2

    Appreciate your Videos man. thats the stuff they should teach kids in school.

  • @lo-stretch5836
    @lo-stretch5836 Рік тому

    Been waiting for this one 👌🏼

  • @Thekingofgodofwar
    @Thekingofgodofwar Рік тому +11

    You know, funnily enough this is probably the one time comparing them by serving size would certainly have helped. Having more realistic numbers per serving on the vitamins and minerals gives a lot of perspective on the day-to-day application of the oils.