First Reaction to EXO-K and EXO-M MAMA MV
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I am so glad you also took the time to watch the EXO-M version of "Mama." Now you see why it was important to see both versions. If you watch all versions of everything EXO does -- even if you don't react to both -- you might be able to understand a little more about EXO's mission and everything they have been sent to Earth to do.
Although, the EXO-K and EXO-M versions of their MVs may look similar on the surface. None of them ever use the same footage in both MVs. The scenes that look the same only look the same because they wanted them to, but they were all shot separately. Even when all 12 or 9 members are involved in both MVs, it's never the same because the members are all given different parts depending on the version that you watch. The EXO-K or Korean versions are meant to tell the story from EXO-K's point of view, where the EXO-M or Mandarin versions tell EXO-M's side of the story.
"Mama" was released in 2012, so this is more than 11 years ago. Xiumin, the oldest, was about 22 at this time and Sehun and Kai, who are the youngest, were about 18. However, if you remember, Suho and Kai were the members that trained the longest with the company before they debuted. Suho was a trainee for 7 years -- he began when he was about 14 years old (he was about 21 when he debuted) -- and Kai was a trainee for about 6 years -- he started training when he was about 12. But Baekhyun was only a trainee for about 6 months before he debuted. He was one of the older trainees at about 20 years old. So, this just goes to show you the amount of hard work, dedication and talent that EXO has.
You also should look up the lyrics for "Mama." As you noticed, the majority of their Gregorian chant is in English: "Shoot anonymous, anonymous; Heartless, mindless; No one who care about me ... Careless, careless (Mama: Mama in Korean means Your Majesty); Shoot anonymous, anonymous (Mama); Heartless, mindless (Mama); No one who care about me (Mama)"
Just in case you were wondering, in the beginning EXO's Mandarin MVs were subbed in Korean to help them appeal to a Korean audience. When you see English words those are lyrics that are sung in English and the rest of the song is in Mandarin.
Also, if you know what the whole song is talking about and what the lyrics mean it will give you even more insight into why EXO have been sent to Earth and what their mission is all about. However, if you look up the English translation to both the Korean and Mandarin versions you will see that the lyrics are slightly different, because the story is being told from different perspectives.
EXO's storyline begins with them being sent to Earth to try and heal the world and to stop and prevent the Red Force from taking over and corrupting everything. And the story in the lyrics of "Mama" foreshadows what they will have to overcome and understand about humans and our world to accomplish their tasks. EXO kind of takes humanity to task and asks us to explain why we would allow all this anger and hatred to cloud everything around us and why we don't love each other more? It's really a very beautiful message and the more you learn about EXO, the more interesting the whole thing becomes.
In the song the members, being aliens from another planet, are struggling to understand how we as humans could allow all these evil and bad things to happen all around us, such as war, hate and the destruction of the environment etc. and they are daunted by the fact that they are now tasked with figuring out how to fix it all and prevent more evil from taking place. That's why they need to find the two halves of the Tree of Life and reunite them to restore peace.
In the EXO-M MV Xiumin and Kris are the members that do the screamo part.
However, although it looks like Kris is the one that does that high note at the end of that section, really the voice you are hearing is Chen.
Tao is the one that can flip and jump like that, so he is the one that is always doing it in all of EXO's early MVs. (He does it in both the EXO-M and EXO-K MVs.) If you watch EXO's 23 pre-debut teaser videos, you will see Tao showcasing his martial arts skills and see that all his moves are 100% real. He can really flip and jump and spin like that and if in a battle he could kick butt. The numerous injuries he sustained from having to do those stunts in MVs and during live performances and on variety shows, etc. is one of the reasons why he left the group. The sword is real and he also often uses a staff. He is also the one that sends the butterfly to Sehun in this MV. Tao is the youngest member of EXO-M. (FYI: Tao, and Luhan, are now successful solo artists in China.)
EXO's story is part supernatural and Sci-Fi and part based on reality, which touches on real life events and things that are really happening in the world. And from the very beginning, even during pre-debut days, and everything since then and everything yet to come, it all is connected to this storyline. Everything EXO does and everything you see from them, including Baekhyun and Kai's parts in SuperM, all has something to do with the concept and story that began with "Mama," and each new installment of something from the members expands a little further on EXO's story. Whether it's an MV from the group, a solo project from one of the members, a sub-unit project, a live performance, teaser videos, concert VCRs, or even a good amount of their choreography, it all has been designed to connect to EXO's storyline.
It's kind of mind blowing the amount of planning and manipulation SM has been doing over the years to connect all the dots and to continue the story. It gets even crazier when you realize how even the most minute of details were crafted to be a hidden message or detail within that storyline.
To refresh your memory, here is a list of the members and what their special power is.
EXO-K
💦 Suho (Kim JunMyeon) is the leader of the group and he is a lead vocalist -- his power is the ability to control water (Fun fact: Suho in Korean means guardian, as in the guardian of EXO. That's why as the leader of EXO, his stage name is Suho)
💡Baekhyun is a main vocalist and his superpower is the ability to control light.
🔥Chanyeol is the main rapper and lead vocalist -- his power is the ability to control fire and his spirit animal is the phoenix.
🌏D.O. (Do KyungSoo) is a main vocalist and his power is the ability to control earth (dirt) elements, which gives him strength/force.
☄Kai (Kim JongIn) is a main dancer, lead vocalist and sub-rapper and his power is teleportation. (Kai means opening -- as in a door or gateway -- in Chinese, so his stage name is meant to symbolize his role in the group, and as an EXO-K member he was given a Chinese name to symbolize how he is the center of the group that connects everyone together.)
🌪Sehun is the youngest member of the group and he is a lead rapper, lead dancer and a vocalist -- his power is the ability to control wind
EXO-M
❄Xiumin (Kim MinSeok) is the oldest member of the group and he is a lead vocalist and lead rapper and his power is the ability to control snow/ice (frost).
🦄 Lay (Zhang Yixing) is the Chinese member of the group, he is a main dancer, lead vocalist and rapper -- his power is the ability to heal anything.
🌩 Chen (Kim JongDae) is a main vocalist and his power is the ability to control thunder/lightning/electricity.
(As you can see, Xiumin and Chen were given stage names that sounded more Chinese so they would fit in better in EXO-M because they are the Korean members of the Chinese group.)
The Chinese members who have since left the group:
🐉 Kris was the leader of EXO-M, he was a main rapper and vocalist -- his power was the ability to fly and his spirit animal was a dragon (Kris left the group in April 2014.)
💭 Luhan was a main vocalist and his power was telekinesis (the ability to control things with his mind). (Luhan left the group in October 2014.)
⏰Tao (Z.Tao) was a lead rapper and vocalist and the martial artist of the group, so he did the flips and stunts in the group's routines. His power was the ability to control time. (Tao ended activities with EXO in August 2015.)
The thumbnail 😂 as a late exo-L i went backwards from most recent work to oldest work… i put off watching Mama because I found the outfits and concept funny… the way I reacted to Kai’s scream rap when i finally watched it fully ahahahahaha…. But after seeing exordium mama live i fully appreciated it then… and then going back to this MV i now realize how fucking epic it really is… goddamn do you see the size of baekhyun’s ring?! Chanyeol’s crimped hair?! The height of D.O’s hair?!!! Hhahahaha all them crazy ass pants and accessories like damnnnnn… and Suho prettier than all of us will ever be?! Baby Sehun and Infant Xiumin?! And our Chen looks just the same lol… Lay as pretty as ever
This era of fashion for k-pop was truly something else but memorable😂
yes all of them had the makeup on 😭 there are photos of it online. they kind of looked like KISS’ sons.
The idea is from ex CEO Lee Soman, in 1978 (I think) during a radio interview, they saw 12 ovnis over Seoul. Since then he planned to form a group with this story line.
That’s why the number 12 is very important, aliens, eclipses……
Debut date: 2012/4/8. 8+4 is also 12.
Every comeback was the date that had or will have an eclipse…..
The concept is very complex, you have to watch everything, everything they do. Even in the lyrics, solos, subunits, concerts… etc
Powers:
Suho; water, Baekhyun: Light, Chanyeol: Fire, DO: Force, Kai: Teleportation, Sehun: Wind
Kris: Flight, Luhan: telecineses, Chen: Thunder, Xiumin: Frost, Tao: time control Lay: Healing
It’s crazy this idea was from so long ago
So glad SM and UA-cam didn't blocked the Chinese version reaction cuz MOST of time they blocked it. 😂
In Korean "Mama" is a term they use to address a leader or king or queen. It's a term of reverence and respect. It's similar to saying "Your majesty." If you watch very many historical Korean dramas you will hear the characters call the royal family, and especially the head of the royal family or leader, "Mama." So, in this song, EXO are speaking to the leader or deity who sent them to Earth, essentially asking, "Now that I'm here, Your Majesty what should I do? How do I fulfill what you have sent me to do? etc." (They use the Korean word in the Chinese version to keep the connection between the two groups.)
From day one, EXO's concept is that they are aliens from planet EXO and they came to Earth with superpowers to protect the Tree of Life from the Red Forces. Each of the members has a superpower that is unique to them and almost every MV will have at least one if not all of them using their powers.
Exo, as in exoskeleton, means "outer," so as a member of EXO they are outside the ordinary. The groups concept comes from the real term exoplanet, which is a term that is used for a planet that is outside our solar system, so their name was chosen to represent the fact that they are stars that are "out of this world" when it comes to their talents. EXO's concept is also connected to real life planetary and solar events so many of EXO's comebacks and new song releases for the main group of EXO are connected to when eclipses and other planetary phenomenon take place. For example, their War album and Power album release and comeback coincided with when we had a solar eclipse, etc. SM Entertainment has all their release dates and concepts planned out for years in advance and it all part of SM's SM Culture Universe storyline, which also includes parts of all of SM's other groups and artists storylines.
As you can see, if you want to understand EXO's story, it's very important that you pay attention to the introduction story in "Mama" because it is literally setting up EXO's storyline. The narrator is telling you EXO's whole origin story, about how EXO have been split up into two groups, EXO-K and EXO-M, and they are part of the same group and yet separate -- part of two worlds that come together as one, etc. And he is telling you about how the Tree of Life has been split in half to protect it from falling into the Red Forces' control -- each half of the tree representing one half of EXO (EXO-K and EXO-M) -- and EXO's mission is to find the two halves of the tree and reunite them to restore peace in the world.
In the EXO-K version of "Mama" the EXO-K members -- Suho, Baekhyun, D.O., Chanyeol, Kai and Sehun -- are using their powers to search for and meet up with the EXO-M members. That is why you see the K members traveling to find the M members. For example, you see Kai using his power of teleportation as he searches for the M members and you see Baekhyun use his power of light and Suho with his power of water, Chanyeol with the power of fire using his Phoenix wings, D.O. with the power of earth and strength and Sehun controlling the wind.
Because Xiumin is a member of EXO-M, you see him appear in the mirror because the K members are searching for him and he is being summoned, etc. As the story goes, when EXO arrived on Earth, they did not all arrive together. Their story starts out that they were dropped on Earth in different locations all over the world and they have to search for each other and meet up, kind of like in a quest, before they can begin to figure out how to accomplish the tasks they have been sent to Earth to do, which is explained in more detail if you watch EXO's "Call Me Baby" pathcode teaser videos.
When you see the members all together in their "Mama" MVs they are together because they are still on Planet Exo, where they are still united. But when you see them separated it is when they have all been sent to Earth. They keep flashing back and forth between present moments and recent past moments. So, how I interpret it is that at the end they aren't back together yet, but that is a scene from when they were still on Planet Exo as they are preparing to be sent to Earth.
The two worlds the narrator talks about in the introduction could possibly be different dimensions, so you often see parts of their story in their MVs and other content, which could be interpreted as them being in different dimensions or time periods or different moments in history.
Each of the members in EXO-K has a counterpart in EXO-M, so part of what you were seeing in this MV was them showing you which EXO-K member corresponded with which EXO-M member. For example, Suho (EXO-K) with the power of water corresponds with Xiumin (EXO-M) who has the power of frost/ice. Chanyeol (EXO-K) with the power of fire is Kris' (EXO-M) counterpart because he has the power of flight, and as you saw in the EXO-M MV, Chanyeol has the power of the phoenix and Kris has the power of the dragon, which both animal spirits have fire elements and flight, so they connect. D.O. (EXO-K) with the power of force is connected to Chen (EXO-M) with the power of thunder/lightning. And Sehun (EXO-K), who has the power of wind, is connected to Tao (EXO-M) who controls time. Baekhyun (K) with the power of light is connected to Lay (M) with the power of healing; and Kai (K) with teleportation is linked to Luhan (M) with the power of telekinesis, etc. That's how they maintain their bond even as members of separate groups.
And yes, the symbols you saw represent each of the members and it has to do with each of their powers. For instance, Kai's symbol is a pyramid and it represents teleportation, and Lay's symbol is a unicorn and it represents his power of healing, etc. (In future MVs and other things to do with EXO, when you see things like a pyramid, you know that is a reference to something to do with Kai, etc.) Even the most minute of details in EXO's content has something to do with their origin story and EXO's storyline.
As you noticed, during that screamo part, the "tattoos" on Kai's face and body say "EXO from Exoplanet 2012" and also all of the EXO members names, or at least the 6 EXO-K members names, as well as EXO's symbol and other hidden clues to EXO's origin story. (All of the words on Kai's face and body are in English, so if you really study that scene, you will see there is a whole story even in his body paint, etc. ) And although it looks like Kai is the one that does the really high note at that moment, the voice you are hearing is actually Baekhyun.
Each member in EXO-K also has a partner in EXO-M that fills the same role in their respective group. For example, Baekhyun is the main vocalist in EXO-K and Chen is the main vocalist in EXO-M; D.O. is the other main vocalist in K and Luhan was the other main vocalist in M; Chanyeol is the main rapper in K and Kris was the main rapper in M; Sehun is the lead rapper in K and Xiumin is the lead rapper in M; Kai is the main dancer in K and Lay is the main dancer in M; and then it's Suho is a lead vocalist in K and Tao was a rapper/vocalist in M, (I'm not sure how these two really work together because Tao is more of a rapper and Suho is a vocalist, but because they are the last two they are put together.)
Now that you have seen "Mama" and are starting to understand EXO's backstory, as you watch all of their other MVs, it should make more sense to you if you keep in mind all the details about them being aliens with superpowers and how they are on a mission, etc. Plus, you should also know that all of SM's groups' MVs and storylines are connected. aespa's storyline is even connected to EXO's story. As is SuperM, Red Velvet, NCT/WayV, and maybe even some of Taemin's solo content and SHINee's new MVs, as well as maybe even Super Junior's "House Party" MV, TVXQ's Max Changmin's solo "Devil" MV and U-Know's new solo "NEXUS Reality Show" MV, etc. Everything SM does is part of SM's Universe, which all started with the creation of EXO and has only become more complex and epic over the years as SM introduces each new group and storyline to the story. And with every new MV or video another chapter is added to the story.
Thank you so much for taking the time to break things down for me❤️ It’s so interesting how even the other groups storylines and mvs connect together!!
About them performing live of their songs, when they performed it as a whole EXO they just separate the verses for each unit, for example in the 1st verse until 1st chorus they will perform it in korean version which EXO-K will sing this part and in the 2nd verse until 2nd chorus they will perform it in mandarin and EXO-M will sing this parts, and on bridge and the end of the song usually they will sing korean ver.
This is only what I remember, co-EXO-L correct me if I'm wrong with this 😅
You're right. ❤
The dance break team consists of:
EXO-K: Kai & Sehun
EXO-M: Lay, Xiumin, Luhan, & Tao (who does the flip-twist part)^.^
There's actually 3 Chinese members that left.
Kris (leader of Exo-M) - flight (in dragon form)
Luhan (main vocal) - telekinesis
Tao (rapper, martial artist of the group): time control
I will try to answer your question about how many years and albums that they did as EXO-K and EXO-M.
It's about 2 years and 5 albums (2 full albums & 2 mini albums and 1 special winter mini album).
Since their debut first mini album they did performed separately but occasionally they performed full 12 members in a big tv show/music concert/big music awards.
On their first full album (XOXO), SM trying to "mix" the K & M on their title track "WOLF" & "Growl" (the XOXO repackaged title track) and released 2 version languages (Korean & Chinese version). But the b-sides of the korean sang by EXO-K and the chinese sang by EXO-M.
It continue to their 2nd mini album "Overdose". The title track and MV "Overdose" they blend K & M and released the 2 versions as well, but still on their main purpose that EXO-K sang the korean version and EXO-M sang the mandarin/chinese.
But in special winter album "Miracles of December", just 3 main vocalists sang the title track Miracles of December, Chen & Baekhyun on both version but D.O just in Korean version and Luhan in Chinese version. And what's so special is that on some b-sides track both 2 version of language that sung by a mix EXO-K & EXO-M members but it's not their main vocalists (confused? Well i'm sorry it's hard to explain in english 😢🙈). Just check out the song named "The Stars" colour code in YT. Cause it's been a long time and i aged so my memory kinda hazy 🤭🙈🙉
Oh Overdose is the last song that they had full 12 members.
Cause in their 2nd full album (EXODUS), the title track "Call Me Baby" had 10 members and as usual there's Korean version & Chinese version, but about the Chinese version album EXO-M just had 4 members only. So D.O covered Luhan as main vocalist along with Chen in this album.
And the 2nd repackaged album is "LOVE ME RIGHT" is the beginning they (EXO) is 9. Cmiiw 😊 well cause that time was the last i into K-Pop. I quit follow anything about K-Pop world.
Thank you for taking the time to explain how their albums worked for me I really appreciate it❤️
25:42 They mostly performed half until chorus part of the song for both versions.
*also they stop doing or recording Chinese version (for full album) in 2018 they only did (recording) for the Title Track like “Tempo” and so on but they also stopped recording or releasing Chinese version of their TT in 2021 when they did comeback with Don't Fight The Feeling not sure if it's because it's only Special Album but they don't also have Chinese version of Cream Soda so, i think they stop doing it for real maybe BECAUSE the only Chinese member isn't active in the group for a moment*
Thank you for all the info I really was curious how they went about the mandarin versions of their songs and how long. I guess it’s makes sense they wouldn’t do a mandarin version for cream soda since the one who speaks the language wasn’t apart of it😂 😭
As of the day the company decided to make Exo just one group, just Exo...dropping the K and M...was directly following the departure of the 3 Chinese members Kris, Luhan and Tao.
Thus they became just Exo. And although Exo became a 9 member group, Lay is the last remaining Chinese member to this day. The other 8 are Korean.
As one unit it was decided that they would be singing in Korean, any Mandarin versions were on the albums only. So as long as Lay was performing with them, he would be singing in Korean as well. No switch ups or parts....all Korean with same choreo...together as one group.
I don't remember the superpowers of the 3 members that left, they left so quickly after debut...I only know the powers of the 9 remaining.
Nowadays the concept has been downplayed significantly, but the storyline is still there in every mv, secretly in the background....I don't have the brain power to figure out theories and dissect the meanings going on within the mvs...I only know that supposedly they are all connected. I just want to hear the music.....💙🌺
i think you would really like the pathcode teasers for Call Me Baby! it combines the best of EXO lore with a bit of the more modern exo we know today. kinda sad that we didnt get a more fan-interactive roll-out for cream soda-hear me out-let me in
Exo-m
1. Chen
2. Xiumin
3. Lay
4. Luhan (ex member pretty face but most manly personality in exo)
5. Tao (ex member my first bias)
6. Kris (ex member the most handsome in my opinion)
❤❤❤❤
Kai's face tats says, EXO from Exoplanet 2012 and the names of the 6 members of EXO K.
Here are their super powers and counterparts:
D.O (Force/Earth). - Chen (Thunder/Lightening)
Sehun (Wind) - Tao (Time control)
Kai (Teleportation) - Luhan (Telekinesis)
Suho (Water) - Xiumin (Frost/snow)
Baekhyun (Light) - Lay (Healing)
Chanyeol (Fire) - Kris (Flight/dragon)
MAMA is a masterpiece. I recommend you to check out the translation of both versions, if you still haven't do this. They slightly different. Still after so many years, my answer for the "your fav song of EXO" question is "MAMA".
And btw I personally prefer the chnese versions of some songs, like for this one fr example. The language just fit better, I doon't know how to describe it ;D.
And edit 2 about the powers:
So... EXO K:
Baekhyun - light
Suho - water
Sehun - wind
Kai - teleportation
Chanyeol - fire (the dragon thing is kinda showing Chan type of power, which is fire)
D.O. - earth/strenght
EXO M:
Xiumin - frost
Kris (the one, well... flying xd) - flying
Chen - lightning
Tao (the one with sword and flowers petals or snow parts?) - time control
Luhan (the one with glass balls/ bubbles) - telekinesis
Lay - healing
(I'll **** the one member's name, cause you said we would not talk about him.)
**** = Flight/Dragon (His kinda partner power-wise in EXO-K is Chanyeol, whose symbol is a phoenix; both represented by mythical creatures of flight & fire~~~)
Tao = Time Control
Luhan = Telekinesis
There are theories that one or all the members have now absorbed these powers amongst the remaining members~~~ (But that's not shown anywhere really in the inclusions for the Power of Music album, which had cards that broke down each member's power's abilities, except Lay-.-)
There story line is so interesting I need to do a deep dive😂
What a debut EXO 👏👏👏mama was my first kpop song I listen 2016 mama is still in my playlist my ult song along with what is love 😊
Mama song have deep meaning
I really liked the Exo-M version of Mama but for the metal part I prefer Exo-K version (Kai's part).
They weren't the first with a storyline/concept. B.A.P. who debuted around the same time, I think, even had a concept involving them being aliens, too(?) *BUT* EXO was one of the few to really stick with their concept/storyline and make it a ~thing~ that the fans and even the general public showed interest in. A lot of the other groups around the time had their companies give up on the storylines/concepts when it got backlash/made fun of. EXO stuck with theirs no matter how cringe it got sometimes, and they really put it in as much as they could. It was only when EXO started to get praised publicly for their dedication to their concept/storyline/worldview that other groups retconned their older stuff or dragged their old concept/storylines/worldviews back out & new groups began to feel the need to have one.
Yeah B.A.P debut about one week earlier than EXO but i don't remember their concept was alien thou. Every B.A.P MVs was related cause their mascot the "bunny head" included in their videos but not about the concept of the group was "alien".
@@FantasialiveAkkrman "The members of B.A.P are aliens from the planet B124AP224, aka Mato, which stands for Masked Toki (toki means bunny in Korean). On their home planet, they gained energy from the high frequency sounds of the Eu-ak birds, which became endangered. They fled Mato to find a new source of energy. Landing on Earth, they discovered that the cheering of female human beings made a similar sound to the Eu-ak birds. They plan to conquer Earth as idols to harvest the energy of fangirls' screams." I think it was a concept for a pre-debut tv show???
About them performing live of their songs, when they performed it as a whole EXO they just separate the verses for each unit, for example in the 1st verse until 1st chorus they will perform it in korean version which EXO-K will sing this part and in the 2nd verse until 2nd chorus they will perform it in mandarin and EXO-M will sing this parts, and on bridge and the end of the song usually they will sing korean ver.
This is only what I remember, co-EXO-L correct me if I'm wrong with this 😅