No Creature Loot if They Die on Spawn

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  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
  • In this video I will be discussing an anomaly with creatures if they die as soon as they spawn on a field rune that kills them in one hit. I first noticed this in early 2021 but was not able to run the tests myself to confirm it until August of that year once there was a Rapid Respawn. I saved the loot log but I did not record a video of my tests at the time.
    The discussions came up around this again recently and it seems like most people I spoke to did not know about it so I recorded it during the latest Rapid Respawn and ran some tests.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 18

  • @Anubora6242
    @Anubora6242 2 місяці тому +1

    I knew about creatures loot being created on spawn but for a whole different reason I used to hunt per hours ghastly dragons (about 25k kills) at palace, that's when I started noticing that IF someone was hunting there my hunts were usually boosted, I used to leave with more profit, not enough with that I used to hunt in 2-3 sets of 15-30m so, I was able to notice the difference in 15 minutes hunt when I started hunting first on the day, when I went after someone hunted and when I went a second lap in the same hunt so, I always told my friends "listen, as much as u want to disagree with me, there's no reason absolutely no reason to take into account short hunts for measurement, anything where you don't hunt enough nor go through the same spot consistently is bad for your looting" that was back in 2018 but i had no proof so i stopped there, this is the best thing i could see about that so thank you, that answer a lot about how loot works on Tibia, not only how it is generated but how and when the changes appear and how and when to hunt mobs for the best looting.

    • @Xarkost
      @Xarkost  2 місяці тому

      @@Anubora6242 glad you enjoyed!

  • @scottarn96
    @scottarn96 3 місяці тому +4

    Yeah, I have noticed it during some rapid respawn too, but I thoght it's intentional rather than bug/mechanic.

    • @Xarkost
      @Xarkost  3 місяці тому +3

      I just found it bizarre that it isn't that common knowledge with so many people doing bomb bestiary.

  • @kyleorigliosso2276
    @kyleorigliosso2276 3 місяці тому +2

    Good info. Thank you!

    • @Xarkost
      @Xarkost  3 місяці тому

      You're welcome!

  • @andarerYT
    @andarerYT 3 місяці тому +2

    I can say with 100% confidence that they dropped loot when I did chicken bestiary a couple of years ago.
    Wonder if it's related to the same bug that happened with fire bombs killing a player upon logging in, the player getting rooked and the death triggering before the check for player rooking, which made items reach rookgaard. The fix for that is from last year so it'd make sense that this started happening shortly after.
    Whatever it is, we know they did change the order in which things are processed when an entity (monsters are basically special players) "logs in" and dies by a damaging field instantly.

    • @Xarkost
      @Xarkost  3 місяці тому +2

      I first noticed this 3 years ago is when I ran my first tests. Are you sure you got loot when a creature died in one hit. There is a good chance that loot only dropped when they began to die in two. In all the tests I ran I never got loot from a creature that died in one hit in over 100 kills.

    • @andarerYT
      @andarerYT 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Xarkost I gotta check my pics to see when I did bestiary of chicken, it could be 2020...
      Edit: Nvm it was even earlier.

    • @marcosregert3894
      @marcosregert3894 3 місяці тому +2

      The chicken only drop loot when the fire is almost in the end

  • @joooski
    @joooski 3 місяці тому +1

    lol i remember seeing this discussed in the reddit and i knew you wouldnt be saying it without testing it, and i completely agree with saying the loot is genereted on spawn, that totally makes sense, although idk if these changed when preys were introduced but yeah nice catch

    • @Xarkost
      @Xarkost  3 місяці тому +1

      I can't find the source right now but I believe there are comments on the forums discussing this by Mirade. Loot is still generated on spawn by default but when a creature is killed additional loot sets can be generated based on loot events, preys, and wealth duplex for example.

    • @Xarkost
      @Xarkost  3 місяці тому +1

      www.tibia.com/forum/?action=thread&postid=37924971#post37924971
      www.tibia.com/forum/?action=thread&postid=39215218#post39215218

    • @joooski
      @joooski 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Xarkost yes i could have worded it better, what i meant is that this format of loot being generated on respawn could have started at the time they implemented the preys system.

    • @Xarkost
      @Xarkost  3 місяці тому

      @@joooski oh, I understand. No idea but it seems like it's been around a while!

  • @bubbahexlord2954
    @bubbahexlord2954 3 місяці тому +2

    Very interesting

  • @radgos91
    @radgos91 3 місяці тому

    Agrestic chickens that spawn on bounac hill die instantly on bomb and drop chicken feathers

    • @Xarkost
      @Xarkost  3 місяці тому

      I actually have a video doing Agrestic Chicken bestiary which seems to show the same thing as in this video. Loot only drops once the fire bomb damage reduced.
      ua-cam.com/video/-vZkbC3Qksc/v-deo.htmlsi=y00ojpy0cJqGILSU