You can't disqualify a contestant just based on allegations. EBU has to give some explanations in order to understand this desicion. He had a very interesting performance with a wonderful message! As far as i know Spain's public television questioned the credibility of Eurovision 2024 and other countries should do the same. All of us should abstain from voting tonight. Love from Greece!
This is the most dramatic Eurovision to date (at least of what I can remember) I hope this is not going to be a recurring thing and I do feel a pity for the hosting country having to deal with all these controversies
to be fair, he was the first one who didn't follow sticking together. They wouldn't kick him just based on allegations - this is why the police took time to investigate and it looks like they collected some evidence. This is why they gave the case to the persecutor(((
Yes, and this is also totally a double standard, because there have been members of other delegations, who have been alleged of harassment and bullying as well, without any consequences. They all remained rumors.
@@vulturevulture1426 Well they DID kick him out because of allegations. Nothing proven yet. Avrotros just released details. The camarawoman filmed him after his performance, despite clear orders not to film him, Joost asked several times to stop filming but she ignored that. Then Joost made a threatening gesture towards the camera. He never touched her. So that's it.
@@Jannstein the Dutch team have already admitted that he pushed her phone physically. It is all recorded on camera, but noone can release any evidence before the police makes their investigation.
@@in_wino_veritas yeah. We saw maneskin 2 years ago take a 10cm kokaine line in the greenroom for instance :D nothing happened. Besides that i‘m also really frustrated with the ESC this year. I think it was pretty much staged that sweden would win last year so they could bring the esc back to sweden for the 50th abba anniversary. Loreen basically performed euphoria with a different lyrics… all of this vote fixing so we could see conchita sing waterloo for us? Come on sweden. I expected to see abbas last performance last Saturday
They organized a huge party in his hometown to watch joost on big screens. Its so heartbreaking al this disappointment. He is the most supported contestant ever in the Netherlands.
So what happened is that Joost was filmed after his act on Thursday. Was agreed up front that he wouldn’t be filmed, but it happened anyway. He reiterated that he didn’t want to be filmed. What got him disqualified is that he made a threatening gesture but didn’t get physical.
De diskwalificatie van Joost Klein op het Eurovisie Songfestival is vanwege een "dreigende beweging naar een camera". Dat meldt AVROTROS zaterdag in de eerste uitgebreide reactie na de diskwalificatie van de Nederlandse artiest.
For his alleged actions (according to Swedish police), although Eurovision has the right to exclude him of course. But I wouldn't be surprised that legal action will follow from Joost Klein / The Netherlands (I could be wrong of course). Money is involved.
The fact that Joost Klein will not be allowed to perform tonight is incomprehensible. He's not allowed to participate due to supposedly “unacceptable facts”, facts they don't even want to share with us. Meanwhile, the EBU lets a country that is killing thousands of people participate, talk about justice. I hope Joost knows he has made everyone proud, especially his parents. Let the man perform again next year !
I don't think he will do that. He hated the circus. He wanted closure of the trauma and wrote and produced the song true the eyes of a 10 year old boy for his parents, this is what he visioned at that age and his parents laught about it. He said I will be on that stage one day. So now he did what he promised them, you can see the child in his performance. It was supposed to bring him closure from the trauma. A new beginning. Imagine how the moment of his life is destroyed by this decision. Whatever he said it was out of emotion, not a real treat. Can't they tell the difference in Sweden? Sit and talk and do not blow up things unnecessary. I'm so angry with the Swedish organization. People have emotion, it's not good he acted like that, but is it really necessary to call the police for that. The world's getting crazy these days. Overreacting to human nature makes it worse
It's devastating. Joost Klein has been disqualified and will not perform in the finals. A female staff memeber said that he Joost threatened her behind the stage and went to thw police. The organisation said that it's not acceptable and disqualified Joost, without waiting for the conclusion of the police investigation. The organisation know that Joost were gonna win tonight. And the organisation want Israel or Kroatia to win the contest. So they had to try something. Some countries want to withdraw of the competition to support Joost Klein. This is ridiculous. This is painful. The money that The Netherlands entrepreneurs will lose today is huge. They have made Joost Klein chocolates, Joost Klein cupcakes, Joost Klein merchandise, Joost Klein parties, etcetera.
You cannot state the issue is very serious! We don't know! But what we know that this will have a disastrous effect on the belief in EBU and Eurovision!
Whatever the complaint, it was necessary to involve the police. It was an incident & not a crime. Why did the Dutch ambassador not intervene & put some perspective in the problem? It is a shame that Joost could ot behave himself jut for a few days. He is a disgrace to The NL because his fans in Holland & there in Malmo depended on his performance. Why can't he , for the sake of harmony & happiness allow him to compete, take away his passport & bring him to court after the show. The organisers have a lot to answer for Sweden & the rest of Europe for mishandling the INIDENT. Shame on zJoost , shame on Sweden !
stick to the facts... but what are facts... what is so bad that you disqualify someone... I only read that he insulted someone verbally, not physically... don't we all want to know what he said... then we also let our common sense work instead of speculating... this way is not the way... openness is required... if you throw someone out then also explain why and don't keep it so general...
long live woke culture and lets be fair joost was so out of order yelling out why not during pressconference and now ebu found a stick to hit the netherlands with bravely done yes for the security of their ebu co workers yes right!@ and i am Santa Claus!!!🦊
according to cornald maas an honest guy presentator the disqualification was disproportional and the incident was nothing ebu found a stick to hit him with after his outragious comment "why not"(yes he should kept his mouth shut ok but whatever!!!) i agree with mda990 politics just a set up!!!!
Bring the views down, keep your TV off tonight. EBU has reached the END. Eurovision will not overcome this, certainly not if it becomes clear that this incident has been blown up by the producer (Dutch TV will reveal this soon!) and the producer choice already announced that these facts were sure: tonight neither the Netherlands nor Israel should win! EBU was shocked by "mistake" of Italy showing that the Netherlands and Israel became so popular! This stinks so let's do something else tonight!!
Boycot the Songcontest. This is ridiculous. People around said that is was so small. It wasn't a big thing at all, what he said. It is disproportional. They even did not wait for the conclusion of the investigation.
i rather belive cornald maas who sayd the incident was nothing than the riduculous ebu its so sad i hate woke and eurorvision should be a party and what cornald sayd rightly its very sad as joost is all about connecting people and lets stick together!!!
Absolutely disgusting behaviour by Joost. Threats of violence or intimidation should never be tolerated, especially from a man to a woman. Most are ignoring what he did and are blaming the EBU! As much as I feel 💔for the people of The Netherlands, the police obviously have enough evidence & witnesses to be able to charge him... and they have. Actions have consequences.
Ah, you know what happened? Please tell us. BTW, according to the Dutch Television broadcaster the disqualification is disproportional and they are shocked.
Has there been any claim about there being evidence? I didn’t think so. Our justice system works in the way that someone is innocent unless found guilty, and is so for an important reason.
@@10freekie2 Yes of course but the police can't charge someone unless they have evidence or believe beyond a reasonable doubt that the allegation is true; either physically or verbally. And he's been charged.
@@Djekkie-gj7jz I bet they are. I know nothing more than the facts reported. He has been 'charged' (not just arrested)- they've obviously seen or heard something which leads them to believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that the allegation is true (and there's no smoke without fire). If the police had found nothing- he wouldn't have been charged. He'll get to plead his case.
You can't disqualify a contestant just based on allegations. EBU has to give some explanations in order to understand this desicion. He had a very interesting performance with a wonderful message! As far as i know Spain's public television questioned the credibility of Eurovision 2024 and other countries should do the same. All of us should abstain from voting tonight. Love from Greece!
This is the most dramatic Eurovision to date (at least of what I can remember) I hope this is not going to be a recurring thing and I do feel a pity for the hosting country having to deal with all these controversies
And it isn’t over…tonight’s vote may add to the controversy. What a mess 😢
Ridiculous. Finally a message for europe to stick together and they are kicking him based on alligations. He was THE PARTY of this year.
to be fair, he was the first one who didn't follow sticking together. They wouldn't kick him just based on allegations - this is why the police took time to investigate and it looks like they collected some evidence. This is why they gave the case to the persecutor(((
Yes, and this is also totally a double standard, because there have been members of other delegations, who have been alleged of harassment and bullying as well, without any consequences. They all remained rumors.
@@vulturevulture1426 Well they DID kick him out because of allegations. Nothing proven yet. Avrotros just released details. The camarawoman filmed him after his performance, despite clear orders not to film him, Joost asked several times to stop filming but she ignored that. Then Joost made a threatening gesture towards the camera. He never touched her. So that's it.
@@Jannstein the Dutch team have already admitted that he pushed her phone physically. It is all recorded on camera, but noone can release any evidence before the police makes their investigation.
@@in_wino_veritas yeah. We saw maneskin 2 years ago take a 10cm kokaine line in the greenroom for instance :D nothing happened.
Besides that i‘m also really frustrated with the ESC this year. I think it was pretty much staged that sweden would win last year so they could bring the esc back to sweden for the 50th abba anniversary. Loreen basically performed euphoria with a different lyrics… all of this vote fixing so we could see conchita sing waterloo for us? Come on sweden. I expected to see abbas last performance last Saturday
I hope EBU will refund money to all people who voted for him to be in Finals, that would be only fair.
I feel so so bad for the Dutch fans, my heart is broken for them💔 Kisses from Ireland x
Gooo 🇮🇪 Ireland ❤
Thank you😢 I'm so heart broken now. I won't vote
Same :( I'm also from Ireland
There ist no place at the ESC for people who support terrorism. Good decision!
From Ireland too 🇮🇪
They organized a huge party in his hometown to watch joost on big screens. Its so heartbreaking al this disappointment. He is the most supported contestant ever in the Netherlands.
yes! i would have been there, now i only want to if joost comes over from malmo.
This stinks as hell.
So what happened is that Joost was filmed after his act on Thursday. Was agreed up front that he wouldn’t be filmed, but it happened anyway. He reiterated that he didn’t want to be filmed. What got him disqualified is that he made a threatening gesture but didn’t get physical.
De diskwalificatie van Joost Klein op het Eurovisie Songfestival is vanwege een "dreigende beweging naar een camera". Dat meldt AVROTROS zaterdag in de eerste uitgebreide reactie na de diskwalificatie van de Nederlandse artiest.
For his alleged actions (according to Swedish police), although Eurovision has the right to exclude him of course. But I wouldn't be surprised that legal action will follow from Joost Klein / The Netherlands (I could be wrong of course). Money is involved.
The fact that Joost Klein will not be allowed to perform tonight is incomprehensible. He's not allowed to participate due to supposedly “unacceptable facts”, facts they don't even want to share with us. Meanwhile, the EBU lets a country that is killing thousands of people participate, talk about justice. I hope Joost knows he has made everyone proud, especially his parents. Let the man perform again next year !
I don't think he will do that. He hated the circus. He wanted closure of the trauma and wrote and produced the song true the eyes of a 10 year old boy for his parents, this is what he visioned at that age and his parents laught about it. He said I will be on that stage one day. So now he did what he promised them, you can see the child in his performance. It was supposed to bring him closure from the trauma. A new beginning. Imagine how the moment of his life is destroyed by this decision. Whatever he said it was out of emotion, not a real treat. Can't they tell the difference in Sweden? Sit and talk and do not blow up things unnecessary. I'm so angry with the Swedish organization. People have emotion, it's not good he acted like that, but is it really necessary to call the police for that. The world's getting crazy these days. Overreacting to human nature makes it worse
It was not fysical!!!! Just words! Confirmed in the Netherlands
IT WAS NOT PHYSICAL!!!!!
It's devastating. Joost Klein has been disqualified and will not perform in the finals. A female staff memeber said that he Joost threatened her behind the stage and went to thw police. The organisation said that it's not acceptable and disqualified Joost, without waiting for the conclusion of the police investigation.
The organisation know that Joost were gonna win tonight. And the organisation want Israel or Kroatia to win the contest. So they had to try something.
Some countries want to withdraw of the competition to support Joost Klein.
This is ridiculous. This is painful. The money that The Netherlands entrepreneurs will lose today is huge. They have made Joost Klein chocolates, Joost Klein cupcakes, Joost Klein merchandise, Joost Klein parties, etcetera.
😂😂😂😂
I don’t think EBU wants Israel to win. The first ten spots are worse spots.
Weird that if he committed a crime he can go back to Netherlands? If he didn’t commit a crime he us disqualified?
The mainsponsor of ESC is Maroccanoil, an Israelean company with ties to their Government, that explains a lot!
You cannot state the issue is very serious! We don't know! But what we know that this will have a disastrous effect on the belief in EBU and Eurovision!
Het is een schandalige beslissing . Zweden duim naar beneden. Er klopt hier iets niet.
Ik denk niet dat Zweden hier iets mee te maken heeft, maar dat je eerder naar de EBU moet kijken.
I am so heartbroken that the event that was meant to be a nice party of peace and enjoyment became so unbearable heavy.
They removed the winner. If this lady said something about his dead parents and he overreacted, that is NO reason to disqualify.
Hope many countries will now pull out in support of the Netherlands
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Justice for Joost/The Netherlands!!!💙❤ Shame!!!.
Can't they just prosecute him, and not disqualify the Netherlands? And let people still vote for him. What the fuck?
We miss you Fred, come back online
I thought Eurovision Song Contest was for European countries.. When became Israël a part of Europe
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It’s about TV European broadcaster. That’s why even Australia is there.
These things will be normal in future ESC events, if any. Just because it's no longer a music competition, nowadays it's weird circus acts.
Joost Klein is a Hero ❤
Justice for Joost!
Vote for Joost anyway, #05!
How can you kick someone out of the match if you don't know what happened?
Whatever the complaint, it was necessary to involve the police. It was an incident & not a crime. Why did the Dutch ambassador not intervene & put some perspective in the problem? It is a shame that Joost could ot behave himself jut for a few days. He is a disgrace to The NL because his fans in Holland & there in Malmo depended on his performance. Why can't he , for the sake of harmony & happiness allow him to compete, take away his passport & bring him to court after the show. The organisers have a lot to answer for Sweden & the rest of Europe for mishandling the INIDENT. Shame on zJoost , shame on Sweden !
stick to the facts... but what are facts... what is so bad that you disqualify someone... I only read that he insulted someone verbally, not physically... don't we all want to know what he said... then we also let our common sense work instead of speculating... this way is not the way... openness is required... if you throw someone out then also explain why and don't keep it so general...
long live woke culture and lets be fair joost was so out of order yelling out why not during pressconference and now ebu found a stick to hit the netherlands with bravely done yes for the security of their ebu co workers yes right!@ and i am Santa Claus!!!🦊
Is is bullshit Eurovision is over
Boycot het Songfestival vanavond in heel Nederland
0 punten naar alle deelnemers 😂
Im from the UK, i was going to vote for Netherlands, i wont watch it now, this is terrible, europapa was for me, the winner !
behalve als joost naar leeuwarden komt! dan ga ik er lekker heen ^^
@@user-bb4oh6zk8f thanks for your support we need it!
Politics show
I hope that there will be no voting from The Netherlands as protest
Would be funny if no one got points. Or if one person voted for a random song and they've got automatically 12 points.
Sad for him obviously but tbh has no voice at all!!! Had a chance to Listen his song without all autotune and its sounds absolutely horrible 🤦🏻♀️
Shouldn't matter for a SONG contest. He had the crowd eating out of his hand in the semi final. Enough proof his song is good.
What happened with sitting down and talk about it and make excuses. Why this disproportional decision
To give an example, maybe? 🤔
I'm Dutch and I find Europapa a shit song
Waarom erbij zeggen dat je Nederlands bent. Alsof het dan meer betekent dat je het liedje niet leuk vind 😂
Joost❤👏👏👏✌🏻
Soo… What happened? Why did they disqualified him? 😐
politics
according to cornald maas an honest guy presentator the disqualification was disproportional and the incident was nothing ebu found a stick to hit him with after his outragious comment "why not"(yes he should kept his mouth shut ok but whatever!!!) i agree with mda990 politics just a set up!!!!
based on a claim that a female fotographer made that he threathened her.
Bring the views down, keep your TV off tonight. EBU has reached the END. Eurovision will not overcome this, certainly not if it becomes clear that this incident has been blown up by the producer (Dutch TV will reveal this soon!) and the producer choice already announced that these facts were sure: tonight neither the Netherlands nor Israel should win! EBU was shocked by "mistake" of Italy showing that the Netherlands and Israel became so popular! This stinks so let's do something else tonight!!
Boycot the Songcontest. This is ridiculous. People around said that is was so small. It wasn't a big thing at all, what he said. It is disproportional. They even did not wait for the conclusion of the investigation.
What do you know then from those people around?
I as a Nederlander dont want to vote anymore. Joost would have end.high
Joost allready has won. The incident wasnt that big according to People around him
i rather belive cornald maas who sayd the incident was nothing than the riduculous ebu its so sad i hate woke and eurorvision should be a party and what cornald sayd rightly its very sad as joost is all about connecting people and lets stick together!!!
I hope that a lot of countries will withdrawing their songs
100% i agree , i hope they will, this is so unfair
The Netherlands will be punished for opposing the Almighty Israel. No one should oppose Israel.
Boycott ESC 😠
Absolutely disgusting behaviour by Joost. Threats of violence or intimidation should never be tolerated, especially from a man to a woman. Most are ignoring what he did and are blaming the EBU! As much as I feel 💔for the people of The Netherlands, the police obviously have enough evidence & witnesses to be able to charge him... and they have. Actions have consequences.
Ah, you know what happened? Please tell us. BTW, according to the Dutch Television broadcaster the disqualification is disproportional and they are shocked.
Has there been any claim about there being evidence? I didn’t think so. Our justice system works in the way that someone is innocent unless found guilty, and is so for an important reason.
@@10freekie2 Yes of course but the police can't charge someone unless they have evidence or believe beyond a reasonable doubt that the allegation is true; either physically or verbally. And he's been charged.
@@Djekkie-gj7jz I bet they are. I know nothing more than the facts reported. He has been 'charged' (not just arrested)- they've obviously seen or heard something which leads them to believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that the allegation is true (and there's no smoke without fire). If the police had found nothing- he wouldn't have been charged. He'll get to plead his case.
@@esclad According to the Dutch Broadcaster al is disproportionate. Maybe a culture thing? We will see.
EBU cant handl critisisme
Noooooooo
I suggest Netherlands should leave the EBU permanently and never participate again.
Z🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
He seems like a horrible person, it is not a surprise he attacked a woman.
I wont watch, but I will vote for Israel 12 points!
Face you ısrael