to be honest i don't believe it's possible for her to be healthy right now, both physically and mentally. she's skin and bones, and you can tell by her face that she is malnourished. i really love her and im so worried about her, there's no way this won't have any consequences in the future. i just want her and the girls to be happy and healthy.
Have you seen their recent mv? Almost everyone was too skinny, especially seola and bona, that's why I looking for their videos because I thought she was naturally skinny (like lisa, rose and sunmi) but I guess that's not the case :(
@@hilaholo6822 i don't know if im hallucinating but i think she's not as thin as she was in butterfly era? she's still very thin, but not as boney, i guess? dawon and yeonjung lost weight too, but imo bona is naturally skinny like most of the other members
@@shaki7709 I just recently hooked up to wjsn and I don't really know either she's gaining or losing. I really hope she's healthy despite the strict diet. And yeah, I noticed yeonjung got more thin also. I dunno, I really hope they're healthy and happy
She definitely had an eating disorder. When she said she eats a lot and the members eat freely is a lie. I used to say the same thing when I had my eating disorder because everyone would comment on my weight loss, so I made sure to eat in front of them so they wouldn't stop me from losing weight. But.. that was all I ate; then I would exercise like crazy. I feel so bad for them. I know what it's like.
@@mk-wp9xl Maybe not but it is really damaging to pretend that someone very underweight is healthy. We shouldnt ever make it personal or blame the person who is thin but we cant pretend that being very underweight is healthy either. I had anorexia and I did the same thing too, it is a textbook thing to do. I am not saying she is anorexic, but she for sure has some kind of disordered eating.
@@mk-wp9xl but with the amount of weight she lost and to maintain that weight she cant be eating over 1000 calories a day, even with how much dance practice she does. its physically impossible for that to be true, look at youtubers around her weight and they say they eat at most 700 calories, which i would looks pretty accurate if you factor in how much exercise seola probably does
I wonder too. Honestly I think some of them would be secretly happy, not having to worry about bleeding through on stage with those insane outfits or the embarrassment. They won't reap the consequences till later when it's too late.
I bet a lot of them take birth control so they can skip periods IF they get it. But considering how many are very underweight and have a very low body fat percentage, it's unlikely they do in the first place
IJ WD i was slightly underweight in the past (thanks to quarantine and my trip to italy i gained like 10 pounds) i would sometimes miss my period. it wasn’t often but it was definitely due to my weight and excessive exercise. these idols are HELLA underweight so i doubt some of them actually experience periods anymore. seola genuinely looks starved and on the verge of collapsing.
@@Angel-xg7vy yeah! I had an ed in the past and even WITH my birth control, I still had complications with my period. My hormornes were thrown waaaay off and that was only after a short while of eating the way I did. I can't imagine what this long-term extreme dieting will do to someone :/ I've been really worried about Seola for this reason, she lost so much weight
Yes, at my lowest weight of 95lbs (43kgs) I lost my period for 2 years maintaining that weight through eating just steamed vegetables and some fruit and excess exercise. I thought it was AWESOME not to have my period --- but my health went downhill fast. Hair falling out, weak, getting sick all the freakin' time, insomnia, night sweats, brain fog, loosing balance etc. Girls who loose their period means their bones will become brittle which will lead to osteoporosis and arthritis when they're older. It was only when I started to purposefully eat more and stop exercising so much; I obviously gained weight and gained my period back. Yay. Now I need to be careful not to slip into past mindset/habits :S
I can't understand this industry. I understand that they have to maintain their body and eat healthy, I have no problem with that, but exposing young girls to extreme diets is not healthy. What is the perfect figure for, when the organs gradually destroy. Health is the most important thing we have, and we should be happy, not ruin it. If girls ever want to start a family, they may not even be able to, because it will be the result of diets and extreme weight loss. People who sing and dance need more energy and food. Korea is terribly obsessed with the beauty standard and what their figure looks like, but their health comes last.
You can’t understand it because you don’t share their perspective and mindset. Neither do I. But it’s a question of value, and everyone’s got their own values, whether we agree or not :/ Values only need to be justified, they don’t need to be factual, sadly
In korea health is after beauty, they would rather mask all the shit with fad perfection instead of ever admitting the harsh reality that would destroy the superiority complex
Their logic is for their idol to be PERFECT. And Perfect in SK means skinny, pretty, visual has to fit korean beauty standard then you also have to smile, do perfect fan service, perform well, dance well and can’t have bad days.
When you show the side by side of debut to "Secret" I was shocked. Seola has always caught my attention on WJSN stages for her stage presence and beauty. This makes me really worried for her, because it's evident from interviews that she is heavily restricting to get to that weight. At debut, her arms and waist were naturally quite thin, but the change in her legs is dramatic. Even if she's just overexercising/dancing and not eating enough calories for it, that would still qualify as disordered eating. Regardless, I really wish the best for her, because extreme dieting and/or exercise can really damage your body for the long term.
Constant calorie deprivation past the point of being underweight isn’t “body management” so much as it’s an ED, especially combined with anxiety about food. It also causes recurring bouts of ravenous hunger (which they talk a lot about) and can also slow down your metabolism... A LOT.
Sorry theirs not too big of an update for Seola, she doesn't talk much about her diet anymore (hosts only ask yeonjung about it in recently). The company may have pushed them in the beginning to lose weight but I think a big part of Seola is doing it for herself. Hopefully she's staying healthy and not going to extremes.
@@helingunes955 OK but like, she was already eating really healthy and was strict with what she eats, would it really matter that much if she drank milk? (not talking about plant based, normal milk). For me it's a bit absurd but I mean, it's not like I am a body trainer or whatever but still...
the trainer probably was giving her another possibility because they drink coffee everyday and americano obviously was less sugar than latte.. i guess she stills drink latte sometimes.. but they mention how bad they feel when they don't follow the diet.. so we don't really know
@@mariahdariah8120 yeah i agree. I meant plant based milk since adults dont really need cow milk and it can make you feel bloated, give you acne etc and plant milk like almond milk is delicious. and also its true that americano will give you more energy bcz ıf the caffeine and has less calories. But the thing is these idols go through really strict diets when they don't have to. It's really weird and toxic. They are already skinny and what they need is to maintain the body weight while eating healthy, nutritious foods. They train, sleep less, work hard and when they go though these restrictive diets too long they faint, their skin and legs arms look fragile, even lose their periods. It's because of the toxic culture they are in and i hope it changes. 🙏🏻
I haven’t started the video but this will be interesting. When WJSN debuted, Seola (they were all extremely healthy & fit) caught my attention for her physique. It has become so obvious she began having issues with eating along with a few other members. Being one of the of bigger members during debut, it’s crazy how now she is the smallest. Ultimately as long as she is happy and is good health the weight shouldn’t matter. And really, she does seem happy majority of the time.
I remember her love shot fancam going viral, this girl is so underrated. I wonder if she feels pressure trying to carry a lot of the groups exposure after Bona & Yeonjung. WJSN only has like 3/4 popular members :/ (not to be mean) but getting international interest is really hard for them.
I dropped my croissant not really luda. right now, the most popular members are bona, yeonjung and seola but chengxiao has been the most popular since debut.
thank you so much for adding the part of she wanting to talk more about her skills and job rather than dieting. i often see people (mostly non fans who just want to point out things in her appearance) commenting about her weight on her performance videos or promotional clips. it really gets me mad because i see her genuine love for singing and dancing (and now composing too) and also how she shrinks her expression every time someone focuses only on talking about her looks. she deserves every glimpse of recognition and much more! seola and wjsn are the hidden gems of international kpop fans, they just need to give them a chance!!
at her thinnest point I hope that it wasn’t the company doing that to her. she looks scarily thin. at the beginning I blame the company for not giving them enough food but now that it seems like the group manages themselves more with weight loss and gain I think maybe when seola saw herself loosing weight she just kept going because she never seemed to put loads back on just a little muscle that’s probably from dancing so much. I hope she’s okay :(
She was on steriod-based medication which makes her gain lots of weight like leader of lovelyz. She is just backing to normal weight /bodyshape after stopping the medications.
Almost all idols are slim/thin, but WJSN, in general, are the most dry, pale, frail, and emaciated thin I have seen, tbh. It's easy to spot a healthy thin and a malnourished thin. They're not as radiant. They all look boney, except Dayoung.
Considering the situation with wony rn, under the same company, it’s either a strict and triggering environment, they have their food controlled, or simply it’s other forms of stress affecting them negatively to the point of weight loss. Yeurom has also been conserningly thin, I really hope they can get through whatever is causing it….
I don’t think Starship is restricting IVE diets because the girls have never mentioned that they’re on a diet and none of them is constantly losing weight. Only Wonyoung and Gaeul are really skinny and they didn’t lose more or really gain any. Liz did gained some weight since Love Dive and it didn’t seem like Starship was pressuring her to lose weight because her weight is constant. You can see here that WJSN was pressured to lose weight because everyone lost a lot of weight from debut to their 1st comeback. That didn’t seem to happen with IVE so I don’t think the company was putting them on the same situation. The differences in their situation is that more than half of WJSN members were fatshammed and criticized for their body at debut. It was so severe and since then more than half of the members constantly lost weight not just seola. IVE doesn’t really go through the same thing but Liz. And even though Liz is being heavily bodyshamed at the moment by antis, the general public didn’t really agree or get involved. So I think starship is more understanding right now and is letting Liz do what she wants with her figure at the moment. Seems like she’s on a healthy diet.
No people have for sure noticed. The weight loss is so obvious when you see her in Boogie up and As You Wish. But I bet Starship asked hosts to not mention the weight loss. Also not to mention how she’s been getting _way_ more lines. *And* a composed song was released in their album. The rumour that idols that lose weight are given more opportunities seems to have *some* truth. Not to say she didn’t deserve the lines and more screen time, but I don’t think that it’s a coincidence that it all happened after she lost so much. I’m happy for her but I physically couldn’t watch fancams anymore cause it cause my anorexic tendencies to come back. But, most importantly, I hope that she is happy and healthy.
Finally, thank you for made this update on Seola. She’s my bias and I’m UJUNG too, its just sad nobody talking about her especially on this previous comeback she look more thinner than another comeback. I want to ask people to remind her thats okay to eat what she likes and drink her favorite latte, but I scared people will say it as skinny shaming.
Thank you so much for this update. I'm sorry for kinda harassing you for it. She seems extremely motivated, and hardworking. She takes her career as an idol very seriously, and I would rather people acknowledge her efforts in respect to her. But, at the same time, I hope she doesn't neglect herself, for the sake of her career. She will forever be my bias ❤🥺
So so strange that both her and Wonyoung are in the center position and dangerously thin… Starship is probably behind all of that. They’re known for they’re harsh dieting after all
I remember in a v live super long time ago, seolA was asking bora (sistar) how to make it so her face appears smaller on camera and bora said the only way would be for her to lose weight....she really took that advice to heart. :( it is concerning to see her this skinny but i really hope she's healthy and getting the help that she needs if she needs it
I've been a big fan of Seola since 3 years ago and I've noticed her weight loss. I'm so afraid that she'll get sick or injured. I'm just hoping that the company will take care of her and her health is the most important thing.
And those who critize idols for not being skinny just because "they're idols, they signed up for this.", "they're idols, they should be perfect" and "they're idols, if they can't there are thousand others dying to be one" are pathetic af. This is biologically unhealthy, doesn't matter if she wants to live like this or not.
Idk if anyone has mentioned this already but Hyolyn who was a member of Sistar and is now a solo artist is like the thinnest she's ever been. Looks like she lost a lot for her comeback.
i don't think it's fine to just believe she's eating well even if she says it cause it seems like she's heavily restricting and that is the real reason for her weight loss and i'm not gonna be persuided otherwise cause homegirl be looking starved and bony af
I used to be like Seola , In that time I restricted food l ate a small portion No bread ! No rice ! No sweet ! That’s my rule I lost my period for 6 months and finally ended up with l was diagnosed eating disorder (anorexia😥 ) it was a really hard time to recovery. Now, I’m in process of recovery to get better. In my opinion get back to eat like normal that very hard😭
emma cutie ryujin lost a lot of weight for debut, but she gained it back this year and looks great. jypis known for making idols meet extreme, and arguably unreasonable, target weights before debut to train their “discipline”, but after debut they seem to loosen those requirements to some extent.
When Itzy debuted they were too thin. Dalla Dalla was the thinnest era for all the members, except Lia (she was the thinnest in Wannabe. If we compare Ryujin Mixnine weight and her Dalla Dalla weight it's obvious she was in a hard diet. But since Wannabe all the members returned to their healthy figure. And Lia in Not Shy.
She definitely is thinner than before and she has been thinner way back then. It's sad that after almost 5 years after their debut they still struggle with things like this. I won't be surprised if Seola doesn't renew her contract with Starship
she looks really good in secret. her visual there was 100%. 😭😭😭 i hope she can get back on gaining weight. On the other hand, im happy to see some members are going for a healthy tone body rather than just dieting
I said this on the last video of seola but I'm worried about all the WJSN members, especially seola. They all seem to have been losing weight (including muscle) since debut and the way they talk about dieting and food doesn't seem healthy. They're all so talented and beautiful I just hope their company doesn't put too much on their diets
The fact that the industry forces their idols to be a size 20 waist when that's both an unhealthy standard for the idol themselves as well as the fanbase who admire those idols. Like it's interesting how fans are like "omg so underweight, I hope she's fine". Then if a member is like a size 26 waist, it's like "omg, she needs to eat a salad". Like why are we focusing on the body proportions in the industry and as fans? So much that it's spoken about during comebacks. Also if a female idol isn't wearing makeup she thinks her fans would think she's unattractive, girl we love how you look regardless, be you! But, it's just how toxic the industry is. Imagine having to wake up early af, and go to bed super late so that's physical pressure on the body plus having mental stress from not looking "good enough" in terms of weight, your hair, or your makeup. F*cking crazy.
Jesus Christ, and I don't say this to be hateful by any means (because I've been thin shamed myself and WJSN is one of my top girl groups), but the jump at 8:22 startled me. I never want to jump to conclusions about anyone's body or health, I know what it feels like to be on the receiving end of that, but I'm genuinely concerned about Seola..
I think we have to take into consideration that pressure from both the public and the company can cause you to eat less not to look good but the anxiety. And also what they had mentioned with their company, they overlook the mental and physical health of idols and instead worship that kind of body making it worse for their artists. Love ur videos btw
Around 11:17 she really looks scarily thin, I think it is important for her to feel confident in her body and she will always be beautiful but I truly fear there is something wrong... I am starting to really worry about her :(
I think at this point she’s probably surviving on snacking rather than eating substantial food. It also might be hard for her to maintain a weight she’s (and the company) is happy with.
WJSN is a visual group but they are all really thin, like unhealthy thin, I wish they can go back to their real bodies. They are still beautiful no matter what, even more beautiful.
Can you do Dawon next? I've noticed her weight loss...... She's probably as thin as Seola... I think she works out too much and doesnt eat much at all...
Awhile back wjsn on a variety show literally begged their company to feed them, this was when they were first starting off! I have no doubt in my mind they are not feeding these girls properly. It's disgusting because , K-pop idols specifically female K-pop idols the moment they gain a little bit of weight they get so much backlash but then the moment that they look too skinny suddenly everyone's concerned so the companies don't want the backlash so they keep their female idols you know super thin . Which is honestly super super duper irresponsible because all they need to do is look up healthy diet plans so the girls can eat and have energy to perform instead of literally starving them which I thought was illegal but for some reason in the kpop industry everyone just ignores that these are underage girls we are talking about here. I mean I just feel hopeless someone's got to look out for these girls I mean there's thousands of groups you know trying to get their big break and even the ones that are doing well still can't get fed like what??? we have to change this is this can't be something that continues to happen.
Please, do Chengxiao weight lost too She is promoting in China and she looks beautiful, she's skinny but I think in a good way because she isn't in bones
Maybe consider doing a video on Miihi from JYPs Japanese group Nizi. From her auditions and through the survival program she lost a lot of weight and continues to lose it even after she made it in the group
Ok off the bat, did the leader really had to ask for her and her members to be fed. They didn’t have time to.. eat. That’s really messed up, she could’ve said/asked anything and she asked for food. You would think they would provide nutritious foods, which is the bare minimum.
This is very scary! If she is ok with it I can't do anything as it is her body but still I only know about YuJin and WonYoung from Starship, I actually thought they were good because of how well trained they were but this video made me realise how bad at managing/dieting the company is, imagine having to be forced not to have some food just to diet if she wants to eat bread let her I don't get why people care so much about weight
I'm scared they'll do the same to yujin and wonyoung after iz*one disbands which is very dangerous considering the girls are so young and are going through puberty
She seems like the sort of person who is always pushing herself too hard, but never quite reaches the tipping point. She seems to try to gain weight when she can but also loses it before hard comebacks probably due to the dance rather than dieting.
She looks really pretty and healthy in happy and boogie up era. In the black easy promotion she is really really thin. That breaks my heart. She is already pretty and good at singing and talented in stage performance. Hope the company doesn't strict on her weight and she herself also don't push too much on her diet.
Honestly, she seems very happy and has plenty of energy on stage. I think she just eats nearly only healthy food and is overworked by the company which causes her to lose too much weight without trying. When her fans point it out she probably makes an extra effort to eat more hence the weight/muscle gain directly after. She doesn't actually seem to have a Yo-Yo effect because she doesn't go through extreme weight loss and extreme weight gain. She lost most of her weight gradually over the first year, leaving her with a small but seemingly healthy figure. Any further weight loss is extremely noticeable because of how small she was just before and she tends to lose muscle mass making her look taunt and unhealthy. But when it's pointed out she immediately corrects it. I think the company is the problem here, they've made an unhealthy connection in her mind subconsciously between being unhealthily skinny and being center so when she looses too much weight she doesn't do much about it until it is pointed out by fans. She also loses weight during promotions but that is normal because it means less time to eat and more activity. She has a very delicate balance at the moment between the amount of activity she does and the amount of food she eats. She loses the balance occasionally but always tries to right it. I hope she can find her way to makes herself and her company happy by living a healthy sustainable lifestyle in the future :)
to be honest i don't believe it's possible for her to be healthy right now, both physically and mentally. she's skin and bones, and you can tell by her face that she is malnourished. i really love her and im so worried about her, there's no way this won't have any consequences in the future. i just want her and the girls to be happy and healthy.
Look at her thigh gap. I’m worried about her...
@@cynthiaanderson6410 me too :/ i can only hope that she realizes that it's okay to gain a bit of weight
Have you seen their recent mv? Almost everyone was too skinny, especially seola and bona, that's why I looking for their videos because I thought she was naturally skinny (like lisa, rose and sunmi) but I guess that's not the case :(
@@hilaholo6822 i don't know if im hallucinating but i think she's not as thin as she was in butterfly era? she's still very thin, but not as boney, i guess? dawon and yeonjung lost weight too, but imo bona is naturally skinny like most of the other members
@@shaki7709 I just recently hooked up to wjsn and I don't really know either she's gaining or losing. I really hope she's healthy despite the strict diet. And yeah, I noticed yeonjung got more thin also. I dunno, I really hope they're healthy and happy
She definitely had an eating disorder. When she said she eats a lot and the members eat freely is a lie.
I used to say the same thing when I had my eating disorder because everyone would comment on my weight loss, so I made sure to eat in front of them so they wouldn't stop me from losing weight. But.. that was all I ate; then I would exercise like crazy. I feel so bad for them. I know what it's like.
i dont think its ok to assume things for other people based on your personal experience we dont know what really happens behind the scenes
@@mk-wp9xl seeing as this is the kpop industry and how things are run concerning female idols I think it’s safe to assume that
@@mk-wp9xl Maybe not but it is really damaging to pretend that someone very underweight is healthy. We shouldnt ever make it personal or blame the person who is thin but we cant pretend that being very underweight is healthy either. I had anorexia and I did the same thing too, it is a textbook thing to do. I am not saying she is anorexic, but she for sure has some kind of disordered eating.
@@mk-wp9xl but with the amount of weight she lost and to maintain that weight she cant be eating over 1000 calories a day, even with how much dance practice she does. its physically impossible for that to be true, look at youtubers around her weight and they say they eat at most 700 calories, which i would looks pretty accurate if you factor in how much exercise seola probably does
Sameee
At this point, I'm wondering if females idols get their periods regularly:/ Looking at how thin some of them are :/
I wonder too. Honestly I think some of them would be secretly happy, not having to worry about bleeding through on stage with those insane outfits or the embarrassment. They won't reap the consequences till later when it's too late.
I bet a lot of them take birth control so they can skip periods IF they get it. But considering how many are very underweight and have a very low body fat percentage, it's unlikely they do in the first place
IJ WD i was slightly underweight in the past (thanks to quarantine and my trip to italy i gained like 10 pounds) i would sometimes miss my period. it wasn’t often but it was definitely due to my weight and excessive exercise. these idols are HELLA underweight so i doubt some of them actually experience periods anymore. seola genuinely looks starved and on the verge of collapsing.
@@Angel-xg7vy yeah! I had an ed in the past and even WITH my birth control, I still had complications with my period. My hormornes were thrown waaaay off and that was only after a short while of eating the way I did. I can't imagine what this long-term extreme dieting will do to someone :/ I've been really worried about Seola for this reason, she lost so much weight
Yes, at my lowest weight of 95lbs (43kgs) I lost my period for 2 years maintaining that weight through eating just steamed vegetables and some fruit and excess exercise. I thought it was AWESOME not to have my period --- but my health went downhill fast. Hair falling out, weak, getting sick all the freakin' time, insomnia, night sweats, brain fog, loosing balance etc. Girls who loose their period means their bones will become brittle which will lead to osteoporosis and arthritis when they're older.
It was only when I started to purposefully eat more and stop exercising so much; I obviously gained weight and gained my period back. Yay. Now I need to be careful not to slip into past mindset/habits :S
Give the poor girl her lattes.
I can't understand this industry. I understand that they have to maintain their body and eat healthy, I have no problem with that, but exposing young girls to extreme diets is not healthy. What is the perfect figure for, when the organs gradually destroy. Health is the most important thing we have, and we should be happy, not ruin it. If girls ever want to start a family, they may not even be able to, because it will be the result of diets and extreme weight loss. People who sing and dance need more energy and food. Korea is terribly obsessed with the beauty standard and what their figure looks like, but their health comes last.
You can’t understand it because you don’t share their perspective and mindset. Neither do I. But it’s a question of value, and everyone’s got their own values, whether we agree or not :/ Values only need to be justified, they don’t need to be factual, sadly
In korea health is after beauty, they would rather mask all the shit with fad perfection instead of ever admitting the harsh reality that would destroy the superiority complex
KaraKara values have nothing to do with extreme unhealthy diets.
Dom mmm Yes it does, because what you choose to put into your body (aka your diet) depends on how you see food. Those are values.
KaraKara I agree
I don’t understand their logic. U have to eat to perform well, if u want them to perform well they need strength otherwise they’ll look and be tired.
Their logic is for their idol to be PERFECT. And Perfect in SK means skinny, pretty, visual has to fit korean beauty standard then you also have to smile, do perfect fan service, perform well, dance well and can’t have bad days.
That's why they probably take 10 vitamin pills a day lmao
@@FromBusan they also get vitamin injections (with the needle and the bag of liquids)
When you show the side by side of debut to "Secret" I was shocked. Seola has always caught my attention on WJSN stages for her stage presence and beauty. This makes me really worried for her, because it's evident from interviews that she is heavily restricting to get to that weight. At debut, her arms and waist were naturally quite thin, but the change in her legs is dramatic. Even if she's just overexercising/dancing and not eating enough calories for it, that would still qualify as disordered eating. Regardless, I really wish the best for her, because extreme dieting and/or exercise can really damage your body for the long term.
she lost all her leg muscle💔
she’s so cute 🥺 i just hope she’s taking care of herself and is staying healthy
Constant calorie deprivation past the point of being underweight isn’t “body management” so much as it’s an ED, especially combined with anxiety about food. It also causes recurring bouts of ravenous hunger (which they talk a lot about) and can also slow down your metabolism... A LOT.
And for women it can stop their periods which later can develop in that condition that makes it very hard to have children if they would want to
I like that you mentioned the anxiety around food part. Because Eds are more than just starvation.
Sorry theirs not too big of an update for Seola, she doesn't talk much about her diet anymore (hosts only ask yeonjung about it in recently). The company may have pushed them in the beginning to lose weight but I think a big part of Seola is doing it for herself. Hopefully she's staying healthy and not going to extremes.
I think her not talking about it much is her way of coping?
imo, she doesn't even realize how much weight she's lost or she does and doesn't want attention to be on her only
What happend to seolhyun videos?
Thank you for your hard work :)
can you please do 2ne1's park bom?
Even banning her from drinking latte? What the hell? Istg all these diets are so strict and for what?
any body trainer would recommend you that, just saying
She should be able to drink latte. Maybe with plant based milk etc but still.
@@helingunes955 OK but like, she was already eating really healthy and was strict with what she eats, would it really matter that much if she drank milk? (not talking about plant based, normal milk). For me it's a bit absurd but I mean, it's not like I am a body trainer or whatever but still...
the trainer probably was giving her another possibility because they drink coffee everyday and americano obviously was less sugar than latte.. i guess she stills drink latte sometimes.. but they mention how bad they feel when they don't follow the diet.. so we don't really know
@@mariahdariah8120 yeah i agree. I meant plant based milk since adults dont really need cow milk and it can make you feel bloated, give you acne etc and plant milk like almond milk is delicious. and also its true that americano will give you more energy bcz ıf the caffeine and has less calories. But the thing is these idols go through really strict diets when they don't have to. It's really weird and toxic. They are already skinny and what they need is to maintain the body weight while eating healthy, nutritious foods. They train, sleep less, work hard and when they go though these restrictive diets too long they faint, their skin and legs arms look fragile, even lose their periods. It's because of the toxic culture they are in and i hope it changes. 🙏🏻
I haven’t started the video but this will be interesting. When WJSN debuted, Seola (they were all extremely healthy & fit) caught my attention for her physique.
It has become so obvious she began having issues with eating along with a few other members. Being one of the of bigger members during debut, it’s crazy how now she is the smallest.
Ultimately as long as she is happy and is good health the weight shouldn’t matter. And really, she does seem happy majority of the time.
I remember her love shot fancam going viral, this girl is so underrated. I wonder if she feels pressure trying to carry a lot of the groups exposure after Bona & Yeonjung. WJSN only has like 3/4 popular members :/ (not to be mean) but getting international interest is really hard for them.
i feel like that too. it’s crazy how much more attention she got when she lost weight. i literally just want to give her the fattest hug
actually in sk wjsn are really popular, they even regularly get 1st wins for their comebacks now but they're so internationally underrated:((
I hope when (or if) China line comes back it will boost their popularity internationally.
but cheng xiao is also popular? and luda too..
I dropped my croissant not really luda. right now, the most popular members are bona, yeonjung and seola but chengxiao has been the most popular since debut.
I think all of WJSN have issues though....they're honestly all very very very slim
thank you so much for adding the part of she wanting to talk more about her skills and job rather than dieting. i often see people (mostly non fans who just want to point out things in her appearance) commenting about her weight on her performance videos or promotional clips. it really gets me mad because i see her genuine love for singing and dancing (and now composing too) and also how she shrinks her expression every time someone focuses only on talking about her looks.
she deserves every glimpse of recognition and much more!
seola and wjsn are the hidden gems of international kpop fans, they just need to give them a chance!!
at her thinnest point I hope that it wasn’t the company doing that to her. she looks scarily thin. at the beginning I blame the company for not giving them enough food but now that it seems like the group manages themselves more with weight loss and gain I think maybe when seola saw herself loosing weight she just kept going because she never seemed to put loads back on just a little muscle that’s probably from dancing so much. I hope she’s okay :(
Can you do CLC's Seunghee? She has lost a lot of weight since debut!
Her body is literally goals I'm so jealous she's got such a smaller waist and good thighs 😫😫
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Yes, please 🙏🏻
Omg yessss pls do one 🙏
She was on steriod-based medication which makes her gain lots of weight like leader of lovelyz. She is just backing to normal weight /bodyshape after stopping the medications.
I just hope she remember to take care of herself. Many women her weight start developing bad health issues in their late twenties/ early thirties.
Almost all idols are slim/thin, but WJSN, in general, are the most dry, pale, frail, and emaciated thin I have seen, tbh. It's easy to spot a healthy thin and a malnourished thin. They're not as radiant. They all look boney, except Dayoung.
Considering the situation with wony rn, under the same company, it’s either a strict and triggering environment, they have their food controlled, or simply it’s other forms of stress affecting them negatively to the point of weight loss. Yeurom has also been conserningly thin, I really hope they can get through whatever is causing it….
I don’t think Starship is restricting IVE diets because the girls have never mentioned that they’re on a diet and none of them is constantly losing weight. Only Wonyoung and Gaeul are really skinny and they didn’t lose more or really gain any. Liz did gained some weight since Love Dive and it didn’t seem like Starship was pressuring her to lose weight because her weight is constant. You can see here that WJSN was pressured to lose weight because everyone lost a lot of weight from debut to their 1st comeback. That didn’t seem to happen with IVE so I don’t think the company was putting them on the same situation. The differences in their situation is that more than half of WJSN members were fatshammed and criticized for their body at debut. It was so severe and since then more than half of the members constantly lost weight not just seola. IVE doesn’t really go through the same thing but Liz. And even though Liz is being heavily bodyshamed at the moment by antis, the general public didn’t really agree or get involved. So I think starship is more understanding right now and is letting Liz do what she wants with her figure at the moment. Seems like she’s on a healthy diet.
No people have for sure noticed. The weight loss is so obvious when you see her in Boogie up and As You Wish. But I bet Starship asked hosts to not mention the weight loss. Also not to mention how she’s been getting _way_ more lines. *And* a composed song was released in their album. The rumour that idols that lose weight are given more opportunities seems to have *some* truth. Not to say she didn’t deserve the lines and more screen time, but I don’t think that it’s a coincidence that it all happened after she lost so much. I’m happy for her but I physically couldn’t watch fancams anymore cause it cause my anorexic tendencies to come back. But, most importantly, I hope that she is happy and healthy.
Finally, thank you for made this update on Seola. She’s my bias and I’m UJUNG too, its just sad nobody talking about her especially on this previous comeback she look more thinner than another comeback. I want to ask people to remind her thats okay to eat what she likes and drink her favorite latte, but I scared people will say it as skinny shaming.
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After binge-watching videos in this channel, we all know that when we see these appearance of an idol's thighs/legs it is already a red flag...
Thank you so much for this update. I'm sorry for kinda harassing you for it. She seems extremely motivated, and hardworking. She takes her career as an idol very seriously, and I would rather people acknowledge her efforts in respect to her. But, at the same time, I hope she doesn't neglect herself, for the sake of her career. She will forever be my bias ❤🥺
she is my ult i just hope she’s ok 😭💔
So so strange that both her and Wonyoung are in the center position and dangerously thin… Starship is probably behind all of that. They’re known for they’re harsh dieting after all
Her fuller figure was absolutely gorgeous🤧
She was an energetic dancer, she used to stand out a lot, now it looks like she could break if she dances like she used to
I remember in a v live super long time ago, seolA was asking bora (sistar) how to make it so her face appears smaller on camera and bora said the only way would be for her to lose weight....she really took that advice to heart. :(
it is concerning to see her this skinny but i really hope she's healthy and getting the help that she needs if she needs it
I've been a big fan of Seola since 3 years ago and I've noticed her weight loss. I'm so afraid that she'll get sick or injured. I'm just hoping that the company will take care of her and her health is the most important thing.
seola’s thickest is my goal honestly
Thank you for the video, i don't say it often but i really apreciate your videos, hopefully seola Can get better i Can see she works really hard
It seems like she gains weight in her face pretty quickly and being very thin allows her to have a more defined and delicate face
I just realised that she is also a great dancer, her movements in that Catch me fancam is really good tho👍
And those who critize idols for not being skinny just because "they're idols, they signed up for this.", "they're idols, they should be perfect" and "they're idols, if they can't there are thousand others dying to be one" are pathetic af.
This is biologically unhealthy, doesn't matter if she wants to live like this or not.
Say that to western ballet dancers. I never seen a chubby one and they have deformed feet.
@@bash547 Ballet is literally known as the most toxic Sport in the World. Also what has this to do with Kpop Idols
Idk if anyone has mentioned this already but Hyolyn who was a member of Sistar and is now a solo artist is like the thinnest she's ever been. Looks like she lost a lot for her comeback.
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i don't think it's fine to just believe she's eating well even if she says it cause it seems like she's heavily restricting and that is the real reason for her weight loss and i'm not gonna be persuided otherwise cause homegirl be looking starved and bony af
I used to be like Seola , In that time I restricted food l ate a small portion No bread ! No rice ! No sweet ! That’s my rule I lost my period for 6 months and finally ended up with l was diagnosed eating disorder (anorexia😥 ) it was a really hard time to recovery. Now, I’m in process of recovery to get better. In my opinion get back to eat like normal that very hard😭
Wait but like actually one on ryujin from itzy would be so interesting
but ryujin didnt lost much weight she still looks healthy
emma cutie ryujin lost a lot of weight for debut, but she gained it back this year and looks great. jypis known for making idols meet extreme, and arguably unreasonable, target weights before debut to train their “discipline”, but after debut they seem to loosen those requirements to some extent.
@@YBlvr oh didnt know that i hope her company dont pressure her to go on diet cause she looks good
When Itzy debuted they were too thin. Dalla Dalla was the thinnest era for all the members, except Lia (she was the thinnest in Wannabe. If we compare Ryujin Mixnine weight and her Dalla Dalla weight it's obvious she was in a hard diet. But since Wannabe all the members returned to their healthy figure. And Lia in Not Shy.
She definitely is thinner than before and she has been thinner way back then. It's sad that after almost 5 years after their debut they still struggle with things like this. I won't be surprised if Seola doesn't renew her contract with Starship
she looks really good in secret. her visual there was 100%. 😭😭😭 i hope she can get back on gaining weight. On the other hand, im happy to see some members are going for a healthy tone body rather than just dieting
yayy I’ve been waiting for your new video all week 💕
have you seen her in their “UNNATURAL” era? she’s sickly again :(
Btw I enjoy your videos a lot.
Keep up the good work
Seola is a total snack, her dance covers take my breath away every time yet she gets slept on -_-
i believe in seola supremacy that catch me fancam made me choose her as my ult in 2016. they need to go back to girl crush bc seola will kill it!😭
This needs to be brought to the light. Everybody is ignoring it . I’m afraid she’s gonna hurt herself
I said this on the last video of seola but I'm worried about all the WJSN members, especially seola. They all seem to have been losing weight (including muscle) since debut and the way they talk about dieting and food doesn't seem healthy.
They're all so talented and beautiful I just hope their company doesn't put too much on their diets
I hope she's okay. Seola sweety stay healthy I beg you!
The fact that the industry forces their idols to be a size 20 waist when that's both an unhealthy standard for the idol themselves as well as the fanbase who admire those idols.
Like it's interesting how fans are like "omg so underweight, I hope she's fine". Then if a member is like a size 26 waist, it's like "omg, she needs to eat a salad". Like why are we focusing on the body proportions in the industry and as fans?
So much that it's spoken about during comebacks. Also if a female idol isn't wearing makeup she thinks her fans would think she's unattractive, girl we love how you look regardless, be you! But, it's just how toxic the industry is.
Imagine having to wake up early af, and go to bed super late so that's physical pressure on the body plus having mental stress from not looking "good enough" in terms of weight, your hair, or your makeup. F*cking crazy.
Jesus Christ, and I don't say this to be hateful by any means (because I've been thin shamed myself and WJSN is one of my top girl groups), but the jump at 8:22 startled me. I never want to jump to conclusions about anyone's body or health, I know what it feels like to be on the receiving end of that, but I'm genuinely concerned about Seola..
I think we have to take into consideration that pressure from both the public and the company can cause you to eat less not to look good but the anxiety. And also what they had mentioned with their company, they overlook the mental and physical health of idols and instead worship that kind of body making it worse for their artists. Love ur videos btw
Please do Dawon WJSN too🙏🏼
She looks extremely thin now 😰
the standards they hold these idols up to are actually insane
I hope she stays healthy... all these dieting can be really damaging for a body.
It breaks my heart, WJSN is my ug, I really hope Seola gets some rest and gets to eat whatever she wants
Around 11:17 she really looks scarily thin, I think it is important for her to feel confident in her body and she will always be beautiful but I truly fear there is something wrong... I am starting to really worry about her :(
can i suggest you to do dawon wjsn too. i think she also has extremely loss weight if we compared her debut till wjsn butterfly and unnatural
Her body in 2016 was goals for me, Starship is truly... eh *sigh*
Edit: omg, the part where she talked about binge eating 😢💔
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Please do an update after their next unit comeback The Black promotions ends!
Seola and the other members looked SO HEALTHY in their Unnatural promotions... Now fast forward to last sentence and half the members are so thin....
i love you seola so much 😍🔥❤️❤️❤️
i bet she was saying the thing about the eating because the company made her to prevent getting hate.
she looks a lot healthier now imo ! but i haven’t seen too many pics of her
Could you PLEASE make one about Park Bom or Minzy? I would love to see one about a 2NE1 member
there is a CL one :) not sure if you’ve seen it
Diana Chavez I saw it but thanks 😊
I think at this point she’s probably surviving on snacking rather than eating substantial food. It also might be hard for her to maintain a weight she’s (and the company) is happy with.
youtube it's so f*cking crazy, i don't receive any notification of your videos but i have these activate
Could you do of Lovelyz's Baby Soul?
Im so interested in her since their debut I want to know if she is healthy or not
Seola was so cute when she debuted, I hope all this weight loss stops because she is already wonderful and I don’t want her to get sick.
She needs to gain weight. At boogie up era she was fine but now she's scarily skinny. Sending love 💘 💕 💗 ❤ 💓 💖
WJSN is a visual group but they are all really thin, like unhealthy thin, I wish they can go back to their real bodies. They are still beautiful no matter what, even more beautiful.
Can you please do more videos but for male idols as well
Can you do Dawon next? I've noticed her weight loss...... She's probably as thin as Seola... I think she works out too much and doesnt eat much at all...
Awhile back wjsn on a variety show literally begged their company to feed them, this was when they were first starting off! I have no doubt in my mind they are not feeding these girls properly. It's disgusting because , K-pop idols specifically female K-pop idols the moment they gain a little bit of weight they get so much backlash but then the moment that they look too skinny suddenly everyone's concerned so the companies don't want the backlash so they keep their female idols you know super thin . Which is honestly super super duper irresponsible because all they need to do is look up healthy diet plans so the girls can eat and have energy to perform instead of literally starving them which I thought was illegal but for some reason in the kpop industry everyone just ignores that these are underage girls we are talking about here. I mean I just feel hopeless someone's got to look out for these girls I mean there's thousands of groups you know trying to get their big break and even the ones that are doing well still can't get fed like what??? we have to change this is this can't be something that continues to happen.
So many harmful comments saying she looks so ugly skinny and she’s a skeleton, that’s not okay stop saying that stuff it makes it worse
before i used to think that seola from momomo era was removed until i realized she lost so much weight, she didn't look like her anymore.
i cant even imagine how many idols have ed
Can you do a Seventeen Seungkwan's diet story? I noticed that he has lost weight and sometimes he talks about diet and exercise
I hope next time you'll talk about dayoung or yeoreum or dawon weight loss
seola in the recent comeback is looking even scarier
no she definitely looks a little better than the butterfly era ... not much progress but some has been made.
Please, do Chengxiao weight lost too
She is promoting in China and she looks beautiful, she's skinny but I think in a good way because she isn't in bones
Maybe consider doing a video on Miihi from JYPs Japanese group Nizi. From her auditions and through the survival program she lost a lot of weight and continues to lose it even after she made it in the group
Yes please make Miihi, she is underweight, underage, she worries me now
Hey can make one on Ryujin from Itzy plss🥺🥺🥺
Do dawon from wjsn as well
I feel like Eunseo was changing what Seola was saying so people wouldn't be concerned about the their health.
Just looking at her now makes me scared for her.
Ok off the bat, did the leader really had to ask for her and her members to be fed. They didn’t have time to.. eat. That’s really messed up, she could’ve said/asked anything and she asked for food. You would think they would provide nutritious foods, which is the bare minimum.
yeah she really did lose a lot of weight. maybe to much:(( when i watched them on idol radio she really caught my attention bc of how thin she was.
Hopefully now in Unnatural cb, I think she's slim of course,but with more muscle tone than before. Her image is better than Butterfly era,undoubtedly
This is very scary! If she is ok with it I can't do anything as it is her body but still I only know about YuJin and WonYoung from Starship, I actually thought they were good because of how well trained they were but this video made me realise how bad at managing/dieting the company is, imagine having to be forced not to have some food just to diet if she wants to eat bread let her I don't get why people care so much about weight
I'm scared they'll do the same to yujin and wonyoung after iz*one disbands which is very dangerous considering the girls are so young and are going through puberty
@@purpleeyebrows19 they already did it
She seems like the sort of person who is always pushing herself too hard, but never quite reaches the tipping point. She seems to try to gain weight when she can but also loses it before hard comebacks probably due to the dance rather than dieting.
Could yo make one of yuqi from g-idle???
She looks really pretty and healthy in happy and boogie up era. In the black easy promotion she is really really thin. That breaks my heart. She is already pretty and good at singing and talented in stage performance. Hope the company doesn't strict on her weight and she herself also don't push too much on her diet.
She was already so thin at the beginning. She looked great
dawon at the beginning asking for food and is now currently (my actually be skinnier than seola) thin
Can you do one of NCT DREAM's Jaemin? please♥️
Unrelated but I remember you made a video for Yoongi but I can't find it anymore. Could you re-upload it, please?
I will forever dislike starshit for not giving these girls what they deserve.
Honestly, she seems very happy and has plenty of energy on stage. I think she just eats nearly only healthy food and is overworked by the company which causes her to lose too much weight without trying. When her fans point it out she probably makes an extra effort to eat more hence the weight/muscle gain directly after. She doesn't actually seem to have a Yo-Yo effect because she doesn't go through extreme weight loss and extreme weight gain. She lost most of her weight gradually over the first year, leaving her with a small but seemingly healthy figure. Any further weight loss is extremely noticeable because of how small she was just before and she tends to lose muscle mass making her look taunt and unhealthy. But when it's pointed out she immediately corrects it.
I think the company is the problem here, they've made an unhealthy connection in her mind subconsciously between being unhealthily skinny and being center so when she looses too much weight she doesn't do much about it until it is pointed out by fans. She also loses weight during promotions but that is normal because it means less time to eat and more activity. She has a very delicate balance at the moment between the amount of activity she does and the amount of food she eats. She loses the balance occasionally but always tries to right it. I hope she can find her way to makes herself and her company happy by living a healthy sustainable lifestyle in the future :)
Can you do Twice's Tzuyu ?