Stockfish 17 shows one of the GREATEST POSITIONAL Ideas of all Times!

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  • Опубліковано 6 лис 2024

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  • @Johan511Kinderheim
    @Johan511Kinderheim Місяць тому +14

    Thank you for covering these high-level games, this channel is very underrated and I hope you keep going

  • @blijebij
    @blijebij Місяць тому +4

    Beautiful game enjoyed it a lot! SF17 really delivered here! Thanks Josip!

  • @gheffz
    @gheffz Місяць тому +3

    Yes, thank you, BlueBell, for such a great suggestion! Great coverage, Josip, of a good positional game. I can see from the current TCEC competition that Stockfish is currently 4th, with the most wins at 7 and the most losses at 4 among the top engines. This shows that it is a very aggressive engine, pushing for wins rather than draws, which also opens it up to defeats. It is playing for wins, not draws, as Bobby famously said, “The turning point in my career came with the realization that Black should play to win instead of just steering for equality." I also heard in an interview during his Candidates matches "draws are boring".

  • @joseraulcapablanca8564
    @joseraulcapablanca8564 Місяць тому +3

    A fantastic positional crush that lasted so long. Thanks Josip.

  • @enriquevecerra4651
    @enriquevecerra4651 Місяць тому +4

    El juego posicional de stokfihst es brutal.gracias Jozarov.Saludos.

  • @MrMegatherium
    @MrMegatherium Місяць тому +8

    Jozarov, you have always inspired me, as Police man, and chess player. Why not now try bodybuilding? Like me? You have many talents my friend. You have passion for this game, and watching your videos always gets me fired up. Wish I could meet you someday. LOL!

  • @soitra
    @soitra Місяць тому +1

    Love your AI game analysis Josip, thanks so much for posting this up.

  • @Ebobster
    @Ebobster Місяць тому +3

    SF blockading pawn sac c3 is a very interesting novelty.

  • @GeorgeEpting
    @GeorgeEpting Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for the understanding and saying they published 1000s when I only needed to publish one in 2005 and it holds the first and all of it's theory.still working on book and a new channel of it's beginning.i was first to do what I want and when and where and how.😮

  • @Covidbowie
    @Covidbowie Місяць тому +1

    I love this games where a piece Is rendered totally helpless

  • @C_1987
    @C_1987 Місяць тому +2

    Hi Jozarov! Great video and analysis. Please check Wei Yi vs Max Warmerdam from Tata Steel 2024. I think you haven't covered it yet. Surely one of the games of the year.

    • @Jozarovschesschannel
      @Jozarovschesschannel  Місяць тому +2

      Thanks for the suggestion. Will probably cover it when the Olympiad ends

  • @gladosadoree
    @gladosadoree Місяць тому +2

    ... c3!! was a great, GM-like move. But, by the same token, so should c4! by White have been. If Black goes ... bxc4, then White can play c3 himself (after dxc4), and the diagonal for the White bishop has opened up again. Instead, White went with e5 and d4, after which your bishop is just locked out forever.

    • @Ooopsi
      @Ooopsi Місяць тому

      Wouldn't black anticipate this and after c4 play b4 instead of taking? Point being that now after c3 black plays bxc3 and this time even though the white bishop opens up a bit, the d4 thrust can no longer be supported by the c pawn.

  • @ВладимирАнтарин
    @ВладимирАнтарин Місяць тому +1

    а Stockfish после 1.e4 e5 решил отдохнуть от Испанской партии - партия 1 Stockfish и К. - Stockfish - ( первые два-три хода К. выставлял, дальше - междусобойчик ) - 1. e4 e5 2. Qe2 d5 3. ed5 Be7 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Nc3 O-O 6. Ne5 Re8 7. d4 Bb4
    8. Qd3 Nd5 9. Be2 Nc6 10. Nc6 bc6 11. O-O Bd6 12. Nd5 cd5 13. c3 Qh4
    14. g3 Qh3 15. Re1 Bf5 16. Qd1 h5 17. Bf1 Qg4 18. Bd2 Re1 19. Qe1 c6 20. Qd1 Be4
    21. Bg2 Bg2 22. Qg4 hg4 23. Kg2 Rb8 24. b4 Re8 25. Re1 Ra8 26. a4 a5 27. ba5 Ra5
    28. Ra1 Bc7 29. c4 Ra7 30. c5 Ra6 31. a5 Kf8 32. f3 f5 33. fg4 fg4 34. h3 gh3 35. Kh3 Bd8
    36. Kg4 Kf7 37. Rf1 Bf6 38. Bc3 Ra8 39. Ra1 Ke6 40. a6 Ke7 41. Ra4 g6 42. Bd2 Ke6
    43. a7 Bd4 44. Rd4 Ra7 45. Kg5 Ke5 46. Bc3 Ke6 47. Rf4 Ra3 48. Rf6 Kd7 49. Be5 Ra5
    50. Bd4 Ra2 51. g4 Rh2 52. Kg6 Rh4 53. Rf7 Ke6 54. Rf6 Kd7 55. Kf5 Rh1 56. g5 1-0
    партия 2 -
    1. e4 e5 2. Qe2 c5 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. Qe3 f5 5. Bb5 d6 6. d3 a6 7. Bc6 bc6
    8. Nbd2 Be7 9. b3 Nf6 10. Bb2 O-O 11. O-O-O Nh5 12. g3 a5 13. a4 fe4
    14. de4 Ba6 15. Kb1 Nf6 16. h3 Nd7 17. c4 Qe8 18. Rh2 Rb8 19. Ka2 Bd8
    20. Rc1 Bc7 21. Qd3 Bb7 22. Ne1 d5 23. f3 Qe6 24. h4 h6 25. Rf2 Nb6
    26. Qc2 Nd7 27. Nd3 Rf7 28. Re1 Qg6 29. Rg1 Rbf8 30. g4 Re8 31. h5 Qg5
    32. Bc1 Qe7 33. Nf1 Ba6 34. g5 hg5 35. Bg5 Qe6 36. Nb2 Rb8 37. Bc1 dc4
    38. bc4 Bd8 39. Ne3 Rb4 40. Bd2 Bf6 41. Rfg2 Nf8 42. Bb4 cb4 43. Nd3 Qe8
    44. Ng4 Qe7 45. Nh6 Kh8 46. Nf7 Qf7 47. Nc5 Bc8 48. Kb2 Qe7 49. Nb3 c5
    50. h6 g5 51. Na5 Ng6 52. Nb3 Be6 53. a5 g4 54 fg4 Bg5 55. Ra1 Qa7
    56. a6 Kh7 57. Qf2 Nf4 58. Rg3 Be7 59. g5 Bf7 60. Rf3 Bg6 61. Rf4 ef4
    62. Qf4 Bd8 63. Qe5 Qf7 64. Nc5 Bc7 65. Qd5 Qe7 66. a7 1-0
    партия 3 - 1. e4 e5 2. Qe2 c5 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. Qe3 Nf6 5. Bc4 d6 6. Ng5 d5 7. ed5 Nd5
    8. Qf3 Qg5 9. Bd5 Qg6 10. Bc6 bc6 11. O-O Bg4 12. Qe3 Be7 13. d3 c4
    14. Qe5 cd3 15. cd3 Be6 16. Nc3 O-O 17. Qe4 Qh5 18. Bf4 c5 19. Rfe1 Rad8
    20. Be5 Rd7 21. Ne2 Bg5 22. d4 f6 23. Bf4 Re8 24. Ng3 Qg4 25. Qc6 Bf4
    26. h3 Qg6 27. Re6 Re6 28. Qd7 Qf7 29. Qc8 Qe8 30. Qc5 Bg3 31. fg3 Re2
    32. Qd5 Kf8 33. Rd1 Qe3 34. Kh2 Qe4 35. Qe4 Re4 36. d5 Re7 37. d6 Rd7
    38. Kg1 Kf7 39. Kf2 Ke6 40. Ke3 a6 41. b4 h6 42.Kf4 f5 43. h4 g6
    44. g4 fg4 45. Kg4 Kf6 46. h5 Kg7 47. Kh4 g5 48. Kg4 Kf6 49. a4 Ke6
    50. b5 ab5 51. ab5 Kf7 52. Kf5 g4 53. Rd4 g3 54. Rd3 Kf8 55. Kf6 1-0

  • @Ebobster
    @Ebobster Місяць тому +2

    Thank Heavens SF did not play the boring Berlin!

  • @JaysonBondoc-f5g
    @JaysonBondoc-f5g Місяць тому +1

    Master plssss upload the game of G

  • @rbnn
    @rbnn Місяць тому +1

    What was the event? What was the time control? What was the hardware? Where did Stockfish first see it was winning and where did Ethereal first see it was losing? How long did the …c3! move take? Would Stockfish 16 have found it?

  • @mrsommer84
    @mrsommer84 Місяць тому

    THAT WAS A BAD BISHOP ON B1!

  • @anonym5160
    @anonym5160 Місяць тому +3

    The‘res the proof Stockfish 17 can play positional. But he still doesn’t understand positions like this:
    r6r/3k4/r6r/2b5/1p1p1p1p/pPpPpPpP/P1P1P1P1/7K w - -

    • @chrisdavis2161
      @chrisdavis2161 Місяць тому +6

      TLDR warning
      1. ??? This is an impossible game position, why would SF "understand" it - a position that will never arise in reg chess or 960? It's a waste of electricity to evaluate a position like this because there's no way any side can make any progress. easy 50MR if the game started from this position. The problem is that there are SO MANY pieces on the board and so much space for one side to make different moves. once the depth gets closer to 50, the eval will get closer to 0. but the width of the branches of this tree (possible combination of moves) exponentially exceed the length (depth) because SF is an AB minimax engine, it's not evaluating just the position, it's evaluating the best move sequence. This is why such calculation could take upwards of 250-750G nodes just to reach depth 50. This is the precise reason why Endgame Tablebases exist: to instantly notify the engine that it doesn't need to calculate the move sequence because the end of all possible move sequences will end in a draw
      2. SF understands positions better than you think it does. But Chess is a game where move sequence matters because you can't reach positions without specific sequences of moves. It is possible that it plays the game a lot higher than human understanding of what is "positional play"

  • @GeorgeEpting
    @GeorgeEpting Місяць тому +1

    Ok stockfish is learning ok stockfish opened into what you said but now comes the transpose into jbird, Donna's bird,knights queen and even jump into my knights corner table which is all part of the jbird theory so let the chief and head programmer show you a true true insight,when a original formation sets the next level is the only one who who created it's fruition can be the only one to confirm it's destination.😮

  • @JaysonBondoc-f5g
    @JaysonBondoc-f5g Місяць тому

    Master plsss upload the game of GM Sadorra VS GM Salem salem in olympiad its a beautiful game. Tnx im from philippines.

  • @tonyblack2973
    @tonyblack2973 Місяць тому +5

    First 😂

  • @Joa8n
    @Joa8n Місяць тому +1

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    • @Jozarovschesschannel
      @Jozarovschesschannel  Місяць тому +2

      If i change it then everyone could make that request again. If that's the only problem on my channel i can live with it

    • @Joa8n
      @Joa8n Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Jozarovschesschannelyou can change it to aquarium board and piece them and then ask your followers to vote for it🙂👏👏easy! Make a poll and ask people to vote..very simple