Top 5 Weird Space Marine Units - How to make them WORK? | Warhammer 40K tactics

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    In this video, we dive into the top 5 weirdest Space Marine units and explore how to make them effective on the battlefield. From unconventional loadouts to niche roles, these units can shine with the right tactics and strategies. Whether you're looking to surprise your opponent or simply want to try something different, these tips will help you get the most out of your unique units.
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  • @Johnnymarzo
    @Johnnymarzo 2 місяці тому +15

    I run 2 executioners in my ironstorm and absolutely wreck ppl

    • @dildoswaggins2907
      @dildoswaggins2907 2 місяці тому

      Me too. Can also take devastator squads now as well. Serious fucking dakka

    • @user-op6wo9hx1s
      @user-op6wo9hx1s 2 місяці тому +2

      I love my repulsor executioner and I run two invictor tact warsuits and they actually slap hard in Ironstorm with my black Templars

    • @RPS679
      @RPS679 2 місяці тому

      I hate rolling all the other guns just a load of nothing a lot of the time

    • @Johnnymarzo
      @Johnnymarzo 2 місяці тому

      @@RPS679 I usually trigger the mercy strat and almost always have the lethals techmarine giving+1hit so all those little guns will give me 3-4 extra wounds thru on something

    • @Sonof_DRN2004
      @Sonof_DRN2004 Місяць тому +1

      Heavy lasers or Plasma, I usually use heavy laser destroyer despite always using the lethal hits Techmarine.

  • @DaveMcMuffin
    @DaveMcMuffin 2 місяці тому +9

    Invictor suits and vanguard vets seem very thematic for Raven guard.

  • @Sigismundssword
    @Sigismundssword 2 місяці тому +2

    Executioner is amazing. Run it as a heavy transport or a put bg (or sword brothers) in it and use them to defend it.

  • @erictanis1979
    @erictanis1979 2 місяці тому

    Love that you called on the Repulsor Executioner! It’s an awesome chunky unit that shoots pretty hard while the only other choice I think that has much play is outriders which can be used as obj holder, fast 2ndary unit and as a wide ass screening unit!

  • @virgilromero3252
    @virgilromero3252 Місяць тому

    I run 3 repulsor executioners for ironstorm, the sustained hits strat is hilarious when you go from 2 shots to 4 😂

  • @ca11rl77
    @ca11rl77 2 місяці тому +4

    Outriders with the sons of Sanguinius detachment. 30 attacks at strength 7. Chaplain giving them +1..

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  2 місяці тому +2

      Actually, quite a cool idea!

    • @StorytellerCharm
      @StorytellerCharm 2 місяці тому +2

      How have I never looked at these??

    • @deltacharlie1760
      @deltacharlie1760 2 місяці тому +1

      Unfortunately you can’t advance charge so you end up wasting their ability. For the same cost you get 5 jump intercessors who perform the same role much more effectively.
      They’re a nice sidegrade if for some reason your opponent packs a million anti-air, tho.

  • @SonicBoomBmx
    @SonicBoomBmx 2 місяці тому

    I use the Invictor in my Vanguard list. Works great. I have a Captain to redeploy if needed. Makes first turn charges easy so I always charge and tank shock.

  • @mereal250
    @mereal250 2 місяці тому +1

    The firestrike also works just as well if not better in firestorm as it gets assault on its guns so it can always advance and shoot. The invictor also gets some benefits in that detachment, assault on those guns and +1 Strength in 12 inches supports its goal of running in to pop a tank shock with that wild fist while letting it use that shooting the whole time.

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  2 місяці тому +1

      Good point, totally slipped my mind

  • @ryanprincessren2326
    @ryanprincessren2326 2 місяці тому

    I run 2 x max size squad of outriders and an invitor in my stormlance detachment. The outriders just block up objects and chewing through 37 wounds with the ride hard ride fast strat take quite a while. The invictor is positioned aggressively and then use scout to either advance up board or pop in cover he’s a great early game shock unit

  • @RFischer
    @RFischer 2 місяці тому

    Invictor is an awesome rear lines holder and the very best at tank shock.

  • @andrewcrane5105
    @andrewcrane5105 2 місяці тому

    I have a redemptor.
    And ohhhhhh, ohhhh the mortal wounds on a charge 😈😈😈

  • @Sonof_DRN2004
    @Sonof_DRN2004 Місяць тому

    I really want to try this in Ironstorm.
    6 outriders and a chaplain on bike, he’ll have the enhancement to allow vehicles to advance and shoot.
    Move the outriders forward, advance vehicles as far as possible along with techmarines. Try and get some brilliant lines of sight.

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  Місяць тому

      Interesting idea, but the shooting from Outriders is still pretty underwhelming imho, so it will be mostly for Vehicle support

    • @Sonof_DRN2004
      @Sonof_DRN2004 Місяць тому

      @@vfminiatures I’m willing to try anything at this point, I haven’t won against eldar and dark eldar in a while, they’re too manoeuvrable for me to handle because I play too cagey.
      Edit: I usually have to deal with those indirect cannons and war walkers so hopefully I can get them by at least turn 2.

  • @AnalogBass
    @AnalogBass 2 місяці тому

    The thing about scout moves is it is prebattle ability resolved after rolloff, so you can put in the open part of your dropzone, scout further if you win, or hide if you lose

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  2 місяці тому

      True, in that sense it’s better than infiltration

    • @AnalogBass
      @AnalogBass 2 місяці тому

      @@vfminiatures Even better when you have both like scouts do

  • @tbone11x
    @tbone11x 2 місяці тому

    I love the firestrike turret. They make oddly hilarious strategic reaerve units.
    Also the invictor is the best source of tank shock since it's fist is S15 rather than the 12 of the other walkers.

  • @Metalichap
    @Metalichap 2 місяці тому

    I often run an executionner in casual play with firestorm detachment.
    With 3 Eradicator inside, the assault rule gives good mobility so you can hide from long range anti tank while covering no mans land objectives. And the burning vengeance mean that anything with enough power to threat your tank won't want to approach it

    • @scolack123
      @scolack123 2 місяці тому

      The +1 S for the smaller guns is also very nice for rushing it up the board

  •  2 місяці тому

    The Firestrike can also be quickly move over the board in the Vanguard Spearhead Detachment using the "Guerilla Tactics" strategem to put it in strategic reserves at the end of the opponents turn.

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  2 місяці тому +2

      Unfortunately Guerrilla tactics works for infantry only

    •  2 місяці тому

      @@vfminiatures Ah! Too bad, that would have been fun...

  • @amess3592
    @amess3592 2 місяці тому

    I run invictors in firestorm detachment with their incendium cannons.

  • @colbybastian17
    @colbybastian17 2 місяці тому

    I actually suggest the fire strike turret in firestorm assault. Having assault Every turn Of the game is unimaginably powerful

  • @kile1343
    @kile1343 Місяць тому

    Would you recommend VV or Interc. with Jump Packs for Shrike in Vanguard?

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  Місяць тому

      Intercessors are a bit more useful in this case because you don’t really need pure durability of VVs, and can’t get the extra AP that VVs need even more than JP, that at least do MWs on the charge.

  • @phillipbritton3836
    @phillipbritton3836 2 місяці тому

    What do you think about the turret being in the firestorm detachment. Getting assault on the weapons so we could advance

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  2 місяці тому +1

      Yes, definitely just as good as Gladius - my brain just decided to exclude Firestorm from detachments for a sec😂

    • @nicholasschian6651
      @nicholasschian6651 2 місяці тому +1

      Don’t EVER sleep on FAF!! I’m a Salamanders player and love using all these off meta units and totally make them amazing! So many breakpoints for an effective +2 to W…which is infinitely more deadly than any other detachment.

    • @nicholasschian6651
      @nicholasschian6651 2 місяці тому +1

      Outriders can just go 18” grenades and action/moveblock…
      Invictor can easily hit that 12”+1 S mark T1… while the bulk of your force is positioning.
      Repex with its 50’ish shots…all at +1S is really good too.
      Firestrike Servos moving way faster than 3” (two options….make fast stuff faster. Or slow things move more normally). Easy to set up good shots and lanes!
      Van Vets have the option to run 10x hand flamers for Immolation Protocols.
      All 5!!!! Easily made very serviceable!

  • @zoro88h
    @zoro88h 2 місяці тому

    Invictors + eliminators in iron strom are actually weirdly good

  • @THEHOLYCHAINSWORD
    @THEHOLYCHAINSWORD 2 місяці тому

    You know i have a theory i believe that they are saving centurions and vv for upscaled firstborn kits or to be the next primaris conversions

  • @igorpinchaud1410
    @igorpinchaud1410 2 місяці тому

    Here is a funy way to use vanguard: play them as Blood angel in 1st compagny task force add a sanguinary priest with fear made manifest enhancement and Dante. Yes it cost 355 pts; but at your fight phase every unit within 6"range will be forced to make a battle shock test with -1 LD; and every one who failed this test will loose one model or D3 models once per battle. This not work on monster or vehicules, but it does on everything else including mounted units, or lone operative character.
    It should be an very effective combination against elite army like ork bully boys, or space wolf stormlance.

  • @jamesloder8652
    @jamesloder8652 2 місяці тому

    Your notes about the invictor are incorrect... you do your scout moves AFTER you know who is going first

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  2 місяці тому

      I know that Scout happens after we know who goes first😂 Did I say it otherwise in the vid? My bad, sometimes when I’m recording for a long time my tongue doesn’t want to obey anymore

    • @jamesloder8652
      @jamesloder8652 2 місяці тому

      @@vfminiatures yes, in the section about the Invictor, you said the scout move wasn't useful because you don't know if you're going first or not

    • @vfminiatures
      @vfminiatures  2 місяці тому

      @jamesloder8652 gotcha, thx!