The fact that CIG called this "non-combat" gameplay a "social" gameplay inside their video clearly show that there is a "social" interaction issue in this game. They have no real clues how to manage non combat interactions with NPCs in the PU ... This is probably because all current interactions with NPC were done thinking about SQ42. Thus they are heavily scripted and mocaped and not adaptable as needed for a MMO. Developing this should be a priority as would be a more investigative type of missions but procedural not a one shot hand made mission as the old one for ghost station.
I dont agree. The PU for me is gonna be something driven by players not NPCs. When crafting and the player driven economy comes in it will shift the focus from the NPC missions.
@@korniestpatchExcept they’ve explicitly said that the game is a “PvE game where pvp is possible” and “that 90% of all missions and interactions will be NPC/Quanta driven.” This isn’t about what you and I think the game should be, or what we want. I’m merely repeating their own explicit design statements. They fully intend for 9 out of 10 missions or activities you engage in to be driven by the Quanta system. They also intend for that system to be the bulk of simulated activities for the economy at a ratio of 9:1 npc:player.
It'a a multiplayer game with weapons, of course everything is exposed to combat. Even if npcs could do their job, your non combat gameplay could be interrupted by combats around you between players and npcs.
Also keep in mind that as AI tech has now progressed to a point that I believe with a bit of work, AI will be incorporated, sooner rather than later, in an MMO to greatly enhance the user's questing experience. This means that NPCs in the game could have their own varied behaviours/inclinations, histories and desires which all apply to each and every interaction, which in turn crafts the user's future quests and even future interactions with other NPCs that are friends/enemies with the first NPC the user interacted with. Furthermore, each NPC could remember each interaction with 100% recall up to a year, and less information after that, say up to a 2 maximum of years and, then after that the NPC only remembers if they've interacted with you and whether or not it was a positive or negative experience and by how much either way. So much potential.. of course CIG first needs to sort out their AI responsive which will hopefully be somewhat alleviated with server meshing and hopefully "fully" resolved with adaptive meshing. Yes, I'll keep dreaming.. thank you very much.
I've heard from Twich streamers the furniture placement totally doesn't work. Furniture keeps getting blown over the other side of the hangar, or disappears altogether.
@@mike_d_melb_music_fan5229 No that the cargo grid is working, they need to put cargo grid on the side of personal hangars. But that would forbid diagonal placement which would be a shame. In the same way, small cargo grids on tables and shelves even in ships would stabilize everything and maybe even improve CPU by limiting physical computations.
So happy to hear about non-combat matters. If death is going to be something to be avoided, it can't be made cheap by making all of the gameplay combat based. This is a welcome discussion!
I was really hoping the distances between ship service locations would filter out most of the ships that are not pathfinders so that combat ships will never be seen in in many places because of a lack of hangars there.
I can see it now. Loading my Hull-C with food, flying with an escort into Pyro. Parking in an asteroid belt. Bringing the Hull-A and transferring cargo to the A to sell food around Pyro. Once food is all sold up. Start stocking the C with the A, then leave Pyro back to Stanton to off load cargo in Stanton. This is the gameplay ive been waiting for
Id love for this to be great and im willing to give it a try. Whats tricky is pyro itself. Id expect to get murdered and bombed in stanton trying this... In pyro, with zero consequences, i forsee this being heavily interrupted
It _is_ called star citizen not star kill everyone. You'll get killed but honestly this community is generally chill. There's already minimal consequences in stanton, it'll happen slightly more often but it's not gonna be like dayz or tarkov where it's just kos
Unti CIG has rigorous NPC reactions that are enough of a deterrent to players who want nothing more than to shoot anything that moves I will not be convinced that Pyro will be anything more than a PvP zone. There can't be non combat gameplay while "TurrdBurrgler69" is shooting at you.
@@Haegemon It's true for the most part. The only thing that makes Stanton not purely PvP is the laughable risk of going to Kleschner, but yeah All of SC is a PvP zone with virtually no risk for attacking other players.
I'm very curious how they are going to make these non combat mechanics worth while, as these locations will, inevitably, draw in griefers. I doubt picking space potatoes is gonna pay for your security detail lol.
Last night, two players on the Aus server got incapacitated just for landing in a hangar. Like I say, they can make it pretty, but if it fundamentally doesn't work ....
And that's why ptu is not a live build, so you have to acknowledge even more you are playing a really rough build. Some people the whoosh is harder then others
Holy shit dude if that one bug didn't happen the game would be so good!! It's not even close to being finished, it's a buggy piece of shit after 10 years, but it's still an alpha. You cannot develop an alpha without bugs. Otherwise development slows down 10x
I love the potential for the scrap yards. Salvage and repair could be hugely rewarding if done right. And a lot of potential for these somewhat sketchy locations as mission hubs.
I think i will also side with the Citizen of Prosperity in Pyro. Trading clean water and food from Stanton. I don't think i want to have conflict with too many factions, one tops if possible to have open oppertunities.
Something I'm a bit curious about is how they're going curb griefing in the future. Its been an increasing problem as of late with just how often I log into a server and see a group of griefers are camping one of the stations / cities and blowing up anyone trying to leave or arrive.
1:14 I always flinch at that. There is no K-type star in the whole universe that left the main-sequence, or "nearing the end of its life-cycle". And flare activity is usually seen in young K-type stars, not old ones. I think it is ok to dismiss reality for convenience in things like medguns, gravity generation and humanoid aliens, but if it comes to lore of the physical world itself, there is no need to invent something ficticious, just stick to reality.
Most...no, all...of my gameplay is non-combat. I mine, I salvage, I haul. Occasionally there is a pirate...and I don't engage. I run. If it doesn't work, well, se la vie. I have a great time regardless.
At 4:03 you can see the RSI Zues has had all it's windows removed except the cockpit. I was worried that would happen. CIG doesn't like windows for some reason.
I suspect it’s to limit the quantity of items it would be necessary to stream between authoritative servers. If persistence and decoration work and aren’t a constant mess, flying by the window of a ship could mean you need to stream in hundreds of small items. I wonder if we’ll see cockpits fitted with rear hatches and room to decorate inside them limited.
They were supposed to develop a technology not to have to render internal objects if not needed by a window but never did. Ships with more windows are thus more graphic intensive.
I hope they make it so where if you are decently respected by a faction and another player kills you that person will have a reputation hit. Pyro needs to be all about your reputation, they need to find some way to control all the murder hobos
i hope they add the local missions to staton to for those who just wanna do industry maybe payout less but be safer like i love crusader such a nice place to be but it feels more like a pit stop more so than a fully functioning city
When it comes to non-combat gameplay, I see only two options for me: exploring and building. Currently, we have limited exploration options, mainly local ones. Caves, large shipwrecks, mainly related to investigation missions. If something doesn't arouse my curiosity or doesn't require creative thinking, I get bored very quickly. Salvaging is ok, but from time to time, as is cargo running and mining, but I couldn't do it every day. I hope that we will get some corrections to the physics in the game, because currently even setting up our own hangar the way we want is bordering on a miracle, and until there is no base building, this is the only activity that would give me a taste of creative gameplay.
@@j.d.4697 yes, but for me is a sort of exploration. Couple of days ago I found "failed negotiation contract", that was cool. Do You know other similar missions?
I'll probably get blown up the second I come out the other side in Pyro 😊😂 they will have to have some kind of security at the jump gates at least. I use to play Eve online and the null security jump gates were full of dead ships.
The exit is said to happen in a big zone not at a specific point to prevent camping. Do not know how it is supposed to work with the jumpoint alley. Nevertheless, as they described it, the departure point in Pyro could be camped easily ... So maybe entering will not be such an issue but leaving maybe.
What we've all been waiting for... vegetable picking missions! It's good to know that in the future, these valuable and personally fulfilling jobs will be saved from automation.
Game Play, Stability, Economy, and then severe weather on planets in pyro planets due to the proximity of each planet, which might make forced cooperation from Pyrorites and Visitors to the system more dependent upon each other and not quite as violent as projected. Still, we will see. Scrap Yards will be great, even if we can make ships/vehicles sailable once more, which should go towards our Engineering skill gameplay.
Finally! And I thought all hope was already lost, that playing SC only was possible as a kind of endless PEW PEW PEW game. No Pew Pew, no gameplay. At last there is some light on the horizon. I do have learnt to have a wait & see attitude though.
What I really, really, really want is story telling missions, any kind of mission, but I want to be involved in a story with different outcomes depending of my taken decisions
The story only will flow when the verse is plugged into the StarSim and mission & events occur dynamically. Then the "game operators" could trigger events to follow a narrative, but player actions will influence the verse also. More star systems are needed however to bring in the current main antagonist.
Not possible now as there is nearly no social interactions for NPCs. Currently everything is done through text in the Mobi-App mission tool. Not very involving indeed.
just waiting for Buisness Lines for Hangers and homesteads that RING when another player needs a tow/refule/repair/refinary/crafted product/just to hang out Like i want infodirectories to be a thing at commons and hab lobbies. it would be a listings system that is SERVER WIDE, anyone who needs a service you will place a call from their advert basic preset listing options and drop down extra details 140 symbol msg. SO you would and that hanger would RING and the player would socially answer and it would be a direct conversation or Text dialogue with the other person, this would have A HUGE bennfit to social play co-op and pioneer gameplay it's what i would call VERY MUCH A REQUIREMENT if you want to make this game feel lived in. Listings would be for services goods or recrutement So a player who wants to WORK can list stating a PPH rate which would be per hour rate Calculated you are paid by the second still but it's active when player enters the recruters hanger. kinda like arriving to work you have to turn up to the server and hanger model by travel so most people will look for local listings hangers in the station above the star port or the star port. or go for star system name etc. this is somerthing i wanna direct if possble because from this point i can bridge it out quite heavly to inlclue org war fair mandates on contested planets/moons/stations etc. big big time happpy mailstrom is coming because that means crafting fabircated objects and brekable fun stuff
They should also put a crafting machine at least in the workshop of the Carrack. And permit more generation by such machine to begin a real crafting gameplay. Ammos, basic guns and pistols and light armor at least.
Where are you seeing game settings on the MFDs?? That was all ship info and ship controls that can be bound to buttons. Nothing there you had to go to the settings for.
To me the way to make non-combat interesting is to make me need to avoid combat. Cargo running doesn’t interest me if the routes are easy, and avoiding piracy is trivial right now
A way to counter interdiction would be great. Maybe just scanning ships should be able to detect interdiction fields from a great distance. Currently, the main way to avoid interception is to use non direct routes.
@@sebc8938 sure, fleshing out the cat and mouse game in all ways. As it stands now, piracy is near impossible except against someone who really isn’t trying at all.
There also needs to be a way to scan if a ship is carrying cargo. At least those who are the pirate type can say they have a valid reason to pick a fight. For now they just do it for no reason. They can't even retrieve the cargo right not. Just pirates bring griefers at this point.
The problem with Pyro is that those who designed its lawlessness and immorality and those who play it are going against God, even if they don't appreciate that this is what they're doing. "What comes out of a person is what defiles him. For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts..." [Mark 7]. "Beloved: do not imitate evil but imitate good. Whoever does good is from God; whoever does evil has not seen God." [3 John 1].
Can anybody explain how much of the game is PvP? I prefer co-op games with friends and if there's a big PvP portion of this game then I won't be able to get my squad to play.
Or they could make crewing not so unappealing. Right now being crew always penalizes you-lower rep and money on shared missions, crew members always have dramatically less combat power than if they got in a ship, etc. We want NPC crews because crewing atm is so awful no one wants to do it beyond novelty. Maybe the answer should be actually buffing those roles to be fun.
Just having a bad NPC manning a turret would be puzzling for pirates not knowing if it is not manned by a dangerous player or not. You could also have NPC pilots making evasive maneuvers while you go manning the turret.
This should have been trailed for Pyro so very very much earlier. Many folk were not that interested after the Pyro preview sessions being nothing but endless gun bunny stuff that could simply have been some more Star Marine. This is the first time they have suggested thet Pyro offers anything much to miners, haulers and traderas and other industrial players. They need to put some worthwhile payback in this. another area of weakness at times. Perhaps the ability to gain reputation with opposing factions because you come in peace and help. The warlords may spite firte at one another but if you breing medicine to their sick children they both treat you with respect sort of thing. Very Star Trek but makes a great chege from kill 10 carbon copy one dimensional "orcs". A well written MMO (which this has yet to be9ocme) has NPCs that folk appreciate. Choosing whether or not to ally with Constantine Hurston.or oppose him should matter, with beneficial and adverse consequences for either choice. As yet, there's nothing of that depth that would make this into a good MMO. SC has vast RP potential and its missing what using all the Lore would bring to the game.
Since you talk to CIG here is what I would like to know... There is an idea being expressed in posts and comments that putting these jobs here is just a way to provide live targets for the PVP players... Please clarify with CIG if this type of logic is being used to decide where and how alot of this stuff is being placed... It's not a good feeling to think this might be a thing or some type of a design Philosophy...
CIG also announced changes comming to Stanton. These kind of jobs will exist there. Not very rewarding to kill a farmer or a scrapoer. Murder-hobo yes, only because still there isn't countermeasures.
I checked out the PTU last night, and it played like booty. Super slow framerates, and some ugly and plain textures. The PU has always been fairly smooth, unless the servers were taking a dump, so this did not give me good feelings. Hoping things get way better, because I love this game!
Was that your first time in the ptu? That was the case for me the first time getting in the patch. Second and subsequent have been better - there's a shader dump for this patch I believe
All I have to say to you players that aren’t exactly PVP or heavily combat oriented, be happy Pyro is coming because a lot of us who do enjoy combat/ PvP regardless if you’re a pirate or bounty hunter will be going to Pyro. Stanton in theory should be safer. No one is making you go there, it’s just an option if you want greater rewards with just as many risks. After all it is lawless and Pyro is in my own opinion tailored to those in the community that like the riskier gameplay.
Bounty hunters will be more flexible from system to system because if they are doing hunting on behalf of a law & order Org, they'll come clean of crimestats.
I would rather people talk about what's happening now instead of what might be! What's happening now isn't or doesn't work half the time. What will happen will not happen for a long time...
Stopped playing 3.24 as its an interesting patch yet CIG are up to their old sales tricks again, no ship paints, yet they give me my paints in buyback, wtf, no way that can be a glitch. I couldn't give a toss about paints, its just the weird option......buyback paint?, do they think i'll pull them out, kinda won't. I'll now wait, 3.23.1a is very stable now anyways
@@MadM4F14 you cannot dictate where i can and cant go in a game 😂 ive never advocated against pvp players, yet somehow pvp players always seem to advocate against pve players.
games boring, has been for years.... they should work on the enemy AI and general AI. I'll get to a space station and all the AI is standing on top of objects. the world feels dead. why not focus on the core items they already have instead of creating yet another location with dead AI.
The fact that CIG called this "non-combat" gameplay a "social" gameplay inside their video clearly show that there is a "social" interaction issue in this game. They have no real clues how to manage non combat interactions with NPCs in the PU ... This is probably because all current interactions with NPC were done thinking about SQ42. Thus they are heavily scripted and mocaped and not adaptable as needed for a MMO. Developing this should be a priority as would be a more investigative type of missions but procedural not a one shot hand made mission as the old one for ghost station.
I dont agree. The PU for me is gonna be something driven by players not NPCs.
When crafting and the player driven economy comes in it will shift the focus from the NPC missions.
@@korniestpatchExcept they’ve explicitly said that the game is a “PvE game where pvp is possible” and “that 90% of all missions and interactions will be NPC/Quanta driven.”
This isn’t about what you and I think the game should be, or what we want. I’m merely repeating their own explicit design statements. They fully intend for 9 out of 10 missions or activities you engage in to be driven by the Quanta system.
They also intend for that system to be the bulk of simulated activities for the economy at a ratio of 9:1 npc:player.
It'a a multiplayer game with weapons, of course everything is exposed to combat. Even if npcs could do their job, your non combat gameplay could be interrupted by combats around you between players and npcs.
@@korniestpatchDev litteral words: "player driven but system mantained". The "but" is a very huge one.
Also keep in mind that as AI tech has now progressed to a point that I believe with a bit of work, AI will be incorporated, sooner rather than later, in an MMO to greatly enhance the user's questing experience.
This means that NPCs in the game could have their own varied behaviours/inclinations, histories and desires which all apply to each and every interaction, which in turn crafts the user's future quests and even future interactions with other NPCs that are friends/enemies with the first NPC the user interacted with.
Furthermore, each NPC could remember each interaction with 100% recall up to a year, and less information after that, say up to a 2 maximum of years and, then after that the NPC only remembers if they've interacted with you and whether or not it was a positive or negative experience and by how much either way.
So much potential.. of course CIG first needs to sort out their AI responsive which will hopefully be somewhat alleviated with server meshing and hopefully "fully" resolved with adaptive meshing.
Yes, I'll keep dreaming.. thank you very much.
I was playing early today and noticed that they took all of the props out of our personal hangers! More space to put things now!!
I've heard from Twich streamers the furniture placement totally doesn't work. Furniture keeps getting blown over the other side of the hangar, or disappears altogether.
@@mike_d_melb_music_fan5229 No that the cargo grid is working, they need to put cargo grid on the side of personal hangars. But that would forbid diagonal placement which would be a shame. In the same way, small cargo grids on tables and shelves even in ships would stabilize everything and maybe even improve CPU by limiting physical computations.
It’s cause there is an entity limit.
@@SpaceDad42 Those were static objects thus not creating loads on server, just on the local rendering.
So happy to hear about non-combat matters. If death is going to be something to be avoided, it can't be made cheap by making all of the gameplay combat based. This is a welcome discussion!
I was really hoping the distances between ship service locations would filter out most of the ships that are not pathfinders so that combat ships will never be seen in in many places because of a lack of hangars there.
I can see it now. Loading my Hull-C with food, flying with an escort into Pyro. Parking in an asteroid belt. Bringing the Hull-A and transferring cargo to the A to sell food around Pyro. Once food is all sold up. Start stocking the C with the A, then leave Pyro back to Stanton to off load cargo in Stanton.
This is the gameplay ive been waiting for
Id love for this to be great and im willing to give it a try. Whats tricky is pyro itself. Id expect to get murdered and bombed in stanton trying this... In pyro, with zero consequences, i forsee this being heavily interrupted
It _is_ called star citizen not star kill everyone. You'll get killed but honestly this community is generally chill. There's already minimal consequences in stanton, it'll happen slightly more often but it's not gonna be like dayz or tarkov where it's just kos
@@echo5827 star citizen has always been kos. I have never had a stranger encounter that didn't end up with me being shot at
Unti CIG has rigorous NPC reactions that are enough of a deterrent to players who want nothing more than to shoot anything that moves I will not be convinced that Pyro will be anything more than a PvP zone. There can't be non combat gameplay while "TurrdBurrgler69" is shooting at you.
Now all SC is a PVP zone. 🤔
@@Haegemon It's true for the most part. The only thing that makes Stanton not purely PvP is the laughable risk of going to Kleschner, but yeah All of SC is a PvP zone with virtually no risk for attacking other players.
@@drfreeze76 they may have missed their chance for a even more awful fire planet prison , but I expect it in the future a la riddick
Good thing no one has to convince you. I hope it plays like dayz but there's not much of a reason to pvp unless they have cargo
I'm very curious how they are going to make these non combat mechanics worth while, as these locations will, inevitably, draw in griefers. I doubt picking space potatoes is gonna pay for your security detail lol.
THE DETAILS on these outposts 🫠
Last night, two players on the Aus server got incapacitated just for landing in a hangar. Like I say, they can make it pretty, but if it fundamentally doesn't work ....
And that's why ptu is not a live build, so you have to acknowledge even more you are playing a really rough build. Some people the whoosh is harder then others
Oh no this WAS on the live Aus server, not PTU.
Holy shit dude if that one bug didn't happen the game would be so good!!
It's not even close to being finished, it's a buggy piece of shit after 10 years, but it's still an alpha. You cannot develop an alpha without bugs. Otherwise development slows down 10x
@@echo5827 I'll try again after 4.0 and server meshing .
I love the potential for the scrap yards. Salvage and repair could be hugely rewarding if done right. And a lot of potential for these somewhat sketchy locations as mission hubs.
I think i will also side with the Citizen of Prosperity in Pyro. Trading clean water and food from Stanton. I don't think i want to have conflict with too many factions, one tops if possible to have open oppertunities.
Something I'm a bit curious about is how they're going curb griefing in the future. Its been an increasing problem as of late with just how often I log into a server and see a group of griefers are camping one of the stations / cities and blowing up anyone trying to leave or arrive.
I agree those are the ones that make the game not fun. Especially with no way in the game to scan a ship of it has cargo yet.
1:14 I always flinch at that. There is no K-type star in the whole universe that left the main-sequence, or "nearing the end of its life-cycle". And flare activity is usually seen in young K-type stars, not old ones. I think it is ok to dismiss reality for convenience in things like medguns, gravity generation and humanoid aliens, but if it comes to lore of the physical world itself, there is no need to invent something ficticious, just stick to reality.
Indeed. Reality is strange enough.
This is where I get my Star Citizen news and analysis. Great work Ryan
Most...no, all...of my gameplay is non-combat. I mine, I salvage, I haul. Occasionally there is a pirate...and I don't engage. I run. If it doesn't work, well, se la vie. I have a great time regardless.
I hate the PvP. I would be playing exactly the way you play it.
At 4:03 you can see the RSI Zues has had all it's windows removed except the cockpit. I was worried that would happen. CIG doesn't like windows for some reason.
I suspect it’s to limit the quantity of items it would be necessary to stream between authoritative servers.
If persistence and decoration work and aren’t a constant mess, flying by the window of a ship could mean you need to stream in hundreds of small items.
I wonder if we’ll see cockpits fitted with rear hatches and room to decorate inside them limited.
They were supposed to develop a technology not to have to render internal objects if not needed by a window but never did. Ships with more windows are thus more graphic intensive.
Most ships now have a door at the rear of the cockpit instead of the big open constellation or carrack command zone.
I hope they make it so where if you are decently respected by a faction and another player kills you that person will have a reputation hit. Pyro needs to be all about your reputation, they need to find some way to control all the murder hobos
Thank you!
I'm digging those new MFDs. They look SHARP
Title shouldve been "Oooo you know how long I been waitin' for dis"
Missed opportunity
i hope they add the local missions to staton to for those who just wanna do industry maybe payout less but be safer like i love crusader such a nice place to be but it feels more like a pit stop more so than a fully functioning city
When it comes to non-combat gameplay, I see only two options for me: exploring and building. Currently, we have limited exploration options, mainly local ones. Caves, large shipwrecks, mainly related to investigation missions. If something doesn't arouse my curiosity or doesn't require creative thinking, I get bored very quickly. Salvaging is ok, but from time to time, as is cargo running and mining, but I couldn't do it every day.
I hope that we will get some corrections to the physics in the game, because currently even setting up our own hangar the way we want is bordering on a miracle, and until there is no base building, this is the only activity that would give me a taste of creative gameplay.
What about investigation? There are some really cool investigation missions.
@@j.d.4697 yes, but for me is a sort of exploration. Couple of days ago I found "failed negotiation contract", that was cool. Do You know other similar missions?
I'll probably get blown up the second I come out the other side in Pyro 😊😂 they will have to have some kind of security at the jump gates at least. I use to play Eve online and the null security jump gates were full of dead ships.
Yes, thats an intent. I say intent because AI is still buggy.
The exit is said to happen in a big zone not at a specific point to prevent camping. Do not know how it is supposed to work with the jumpoint alley. Nevertheless, as they described it, the departure point in Pyro could be camped easily ... So maybe entering will not be such an issue but leaving maybe.
Remember this words, lawful and unlawful scrapyards.
Reminds me of the outer the outer planets in firefly
I would DEFINITLY be happy to do localized missions.
What we've all been waiting for... vegetable picking missions! It's good to know that in the future, these valuable and personally fulfilling jobs will be saved from automation.
Game Play, Stability, Economy, and then severe weather on planets in pyro planets due to the proximity of each planet, which might make forced cooperation from Pyrorites and Visitors to the system more dependent upon each other and not quite as violent as projected. Still, we will see. Scrap Yards will be great, even if we can make ships/vehicles sailable once more, which should go towards our Engineering skill gameplay.
Finally, but what we really want is a true non combat or very minimal combat game.
Unless they are in a green zone, it will not remain non-combat. Thanks for the content.
Finally! And I thought all hope was already lost, that playing SC only was possible as a kind of endless PEW PEW PEW game. No Pew Pew, no gameplay. At last there is some light on the horizon. I do have learnt to have a wait & see attitude though.
What I really, really, really want is story telling missions, any kind of mission, but I want to be involved in a story with different outcomes depending of my taken decisions
The story only will flow when the verse is plugged into the StarSim and mission & events occur dynamically. Then the "game operators" could trigger events to follow a narrative, but player actions will influence the verse also. More star systems are needed however to bring in the current main antagonist.
Not possible now as there is nearly no social interactions for NPCs. Currently everything is done through text in the Mobi-App mission tool. Not very involving indeed.
I still want to know what, if any, new minerals are going to be available in Pyro
I would prefer a more co-op game play if it could be done, games like this do attract alot of grief'ers.
i just want the gameplay to be stable and the npcs to work , if that happens id be happy dont need any extra content
bunkers or bounties?
Well then you will have to wait for a reliable version of server meshing. Maybe next year.
@@j.d.4697we'll see how much change happens after the first version in the 0.4.0 patch
@@j.d.4697 yeah iv been waiting for years so whats one more haha
@@rayfighter i like bunkers a lot and it annoys me they are buggy i also love bounties so probably both but leaning bunkers
just waiting for Buisness Lines for Hangers and homesteads that RING when another player needs a tow/refule/repair/refinary/crafted product/just to hang out
Like i want infodirectories to be a thing at commons and hab lobbies.
it would be a listings system that is SERVER WIDE, anyone who needs a service you will place a call from their advert basic preset listing options and drop down extra details 140 symbol msg.
SO you would and that hanger would RING and the player would socially answer and it would be a direct conversation or Text dialogue with the other person, this would have A HUGE bennfit to social play co-op and pioneer gameplay it's what i would call VERY MUCH A REQUIREMENT if you want to make this game feel lived in.
Listings would be for services goods or recrutement
So a player who wants to WORK can list stating a PPH rate which would be per hour rate Calculated you are paid by the second still but it's active when player enters the recruters hanger. kinda like arriving to work you have to turn up to the server and hanger model by travel so most people will look for local listings hangers in the station above the star port or the star port. or go for star system name etc.
this is somerthing i wanna direct if possble because from this point i can bridge it out quite heavly to inlclue org war fair mandates on contested planets/moons/stations etc.
big big time happpy mailstrom is coming because that means crafting fabircated objects and brekable fun stuff
Next will be watching paint dry
And we're gonna keep waiting because this is Pyro, so more Rust than Minecraft.
what is the music at the end of this video? Is it from the star citizen soundtrack?
Gonna merk a lotta gangoons to keep the little guy safe.
They should let the vulture craft the max lift tractor tool also
They should also put a crafting machine at least in the workshop of the Carrack. And permit more generation by such machine to begin a real crafting gameplay. Ammos, basic guns and pistols and light armor at least.
And the crafted multi-tools should be more rugged, not the usual yellow one.
Where are you seeing game settings on the MFDs?? That was all ship info and ship controls that can be bound to buttons. Nothing there you had to go to the settings for.
For example to fly coupled and decoupled, before only could be changed from the game menu or a keybind. Now is on the ship monitor.
To me the way to make non-combat interesting is to make me need to avoid combat. Cargo running doesn’t interest me if the routes are easy, and avoiding piracy is trivial right now
A way to counter interdiction would be great. Maybe just scanning ships should be able to detect interdiction fields from a great distance. Currently, the main way to avoid interception is to use non direct routes.
@@sebc8938 sure, fleshing out the cat and mouse game in all ways. As it stands now, piracy is near impossible except against someone who really isn’t trying at all.
There also needs to be a way to scan if a ship is carrying cargo. At least those who are the pirate type can say they have a valid reason to pick a fight. For now they just do it for no reason. They can't even retrieve the cargo right not. Just pirates bring griefers at this point.
Just get rid of the damn beam that has a range of 5km, it's f-ing ridiculous.
Beam citizen ahoy!
will large orgs be able to take over a settlement and make the inhabitants slaves?
The problem with Pyro is that those who designed its lawlessness and immorality and those who play it are going against God, even if they don't appreciate that this is what they're doing. "What comes out of a person is what defiles him. For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts..." [Mark 7]. "Beloved: do not imitate evil but imitate good. Whoever does good is from God; whoever does evil has not seen God." [3 John 1].
Can anybody explain how much of the game is PvP? I prefer co-op games with friends and if there's a big PvP portion of this game then I won't be able to get my squad to play.
Until we get NPC crew, the game will feel wrong imo
Long way off, so say teh devs
Or they could make crewing not so unappealing. Right now being crew always penalizes you-lower rep and money on shared missions, crew members always have dramatically less combat power than if they got in a ship, etc.
We want NPC crews because crewing atm is so awful no one wants to do it beyond novelty. Maybe the answer should be actually buffing those roles to be fun.
You won't get a full crew. Npcs won't come like a pet, you'll have to pay a salary and perhaps insurance to each npc.
@@Haegemon seems fine to me
Just having a bad NPC manning a turret would be puzzling for pirates not knowing if it is not manned by a dangerous player or not. You could also have NPC pilots making evasive maneuvers while you go manning the turret.
LOL..Alternative crops.
Pyro will be a blood-bath with every NPC being slaughtered within a couple of days of the patch dropping.
respawns
Nice!
This should have been trailed for Pyro so very very much earlier. Many folk were not that interested after the Pyro preview sessions being nothing but endless gun bunny stuff that could simply have been some more Star Marine. This is the first time they have suggested thet Pyro offers anything much to miners, haulers and traderas and other industrial players. They need to put some worthwhile payback in this. another area of weakness at times. Perhaps the ability to gain reputation with opposing factions because you come in peace and help. The warlords may spite firte at one another but if you breing medicine to their sick children they both treat you with respect sort of thing. Very Star Trek but makes a great chege from kill 10 carbon copy one dimensional "orcs". A well written MMO (which this has yet to be9ocme) has NPCs that folk appreciate. Choosing whether or not to ally with Constantine Hurston.or oppose him should matter, with beneficial and adverse consequences for either choice. As yet, there's nothing of that depth that would make this into a good MMO. SC has vast RP potential and its missing what using all the Lore would bring to the game.
Since you talk to CIG here is what I would like to know... There is an idea being expressed in posts and comments that putting these jobs here is just a way to provide live targets for the PVP players... Please clarify with CIG if this type of logic is being used to decide where and how alot of this stuff is being placed... It's not a good feeling to think this might be a thing or some type of a design Philosophy...
CIG also announced changes comming to Stanton. These kind of jobs will exist there. Not very rewarding to kill a farmer or a scrapoer. Murder-hobo yes, only because still there isn't countermeasures.
I checked out the PTU last night, and it played like booty. Super slow framerates, and some ugly and plain textures. The PU has always been fairly smooth, unless the servers were taking a dump, so this did not give me good feelings. Hoping things get way better, because I love this game!
Was that your first time in the ptu? That was the case for me the first time getting in the patch. Second and subsequent have been better - there's a shader dump for this patch I believe
My framerates was ok, but I had 30k.
@@MichaelDBruce you know, I never thought about it, but yeah, that was my experience as well.
Non combat = sniper sitting outside the settlement, shooting anyone picking veg. Griefers holiday destination.
You think there will be no combat in that? Lol. Sweet summer child.
All I have to say to you players that aren’t exactly PVP or heavily combat oriented, be happy Pyro is coming because a lot of us who do enjoy combat/ PvP regardless if you’re a pirate or bounty hunter will be going to Pyro. Stanton in theory should be safer. No one is making you go there, it’s just an option if you want greater rewards with just as many risks. After all it is lawless and Pyro is in my own opinion tailored to those in the community that like the riskier gameplay.
Non-combat player here. See you in Pyro. You just wont be dealing with me you’ll be dealing with my escort
@@korniestpatch Ah I’m no pirate. Just a bounty hunter. Escort is very important.
Bounty hunters will be more flexible from system to system because if they are doing hunting on behalf of a law & order Org, they'll come clean of crimestats.
90% NPC filled systems and alien races spoiling for a fight says piracy in Pyro to be like finding Quantonium in an asteroid belt.
I would rather people talk about what's happening now instead of what might be! What's happening now isn't or doesn't work half the time. What will happen will not happen for a long time...
Stopped playing 3.24 as its an interesting patch yet CIG are up to their old sales tricks again, no ship paints, yet they give me my paints in buyback, wtf, no way that can be a glitch. I couldn't give a toss about paints, its just the weird option......buyback paint?, do they think i'll pull them out, kinda won't. I'll now wait, 3.23.1a is very stable now anyways
Non Combat Gameplay! Where? in PYRO!!! PYRO WTF???? looool
As a non combat player I will be trading in Pyro. With a payed escort
@@korniestpatch you shouldnt even think about getting to Pyro as a non combat player. but im ok with it. we will teach you
@@MadM4F14 you cannot dictate where i can and cant go in a game 😂 ive never advocated against pvp players, yet somehow pvp players always seem to advocate against pve players.
@@korniestpatch oh well i guess i will let that one be up to cig :D
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The game runs like smelly ass so far flight is broken
games boring, has been for years.... they should work on the enemy AI and general AI. I'll get to a space station and all the AI is standing on top of objects. the world feels dead. why not focus on the core items they already have instead of creating yet another location with dead AI.
Jumping stuff with a multitool is stupid. More Beam Citizen. Gets worse each year.