10 Bizarre Victorian Things
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- The Victorian era lasted from 1837 to 1901. It witnessed huge social and scientific change, and some of this change was outright bizarre. From a balloonist duel to the death, to the best news report ever: here are 10 bizarre Victorian things.
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Well, I don't think it's fair to criticise Victorian newspapers. Modern ones don't exactly print what I'd call "newsworthy" stories either. I'd much prefer to read about the oddity of a shipment of 3 tons of dead cats or a baby being kidnapped by a pet monkey; over MP's sex scandals & expenses scandals and what which celebrity flavour of the month is wearing that day.
That was there you tube
They do both
The post-mortem photos are not bizarre at all. They make perfect sense if you consider context. Photos were not common. They were very expensive. As a result, families would often have no photos by which to remember their loved ones who have passed on, particularly if they died early in life. As such, they would take a post-mortem photo so they at least had something to hold as a memory of their loved one.
DreamBelief but they don’t have to put them in pose and make them look alive.
It's not as strange as walking around with somebody's cremated body on a necklace. Photography was very expensive most people could not afford portraits. And sadly they we're desperate for a way to remember their loved ones face. So they took the only chance that they had. I still to this day take them to this day. As it is something that helps me with closure. But I do understand that it totally creeps other people out. But just think about your five year old died from the flu and you didn't even have one single picture of that baby. You would be wanting an image of that child whether they are dead or alive. The post mortem photos of the Victorian error or an expression of extreme love.
@@stellathornell434 It was a different aesthetic then. People wanted to remember them as they'd been in life. It would be a constant reminder of their death to have a portrait of the deceased in their coffin. Not to say there weren't plenty of people who opted for an in-repose photo.
Stella Thornell, they want them to look as they did when they were alive. It was also cheaper to get post mortem pictures, then it was to get pictures of the living.
I honestly think embalming a body and putting it on display is a lot stranger than taking a photo.
the devil's footprints is easily explained...
Santa...thank you
Anonymous Anonymous 😂😂😂
What does Santa do when he has a date night with Mrs Clause? He sleighs.
*Krampus has entered the chat*
This thread wins, and somehow I just laughed so hard I got soda in my eye.
The Devil's footprints was referred to by the newspapers as Springheeled Jack...
Clever Hans wasn't a "dumb horse", he responded to very small signs his owner gave him.
I don't know if the rabbit at 0:10 was supposed to be scary, but God it sure was.
Lmao
I’m sure that’s supposed to be from Alice in Wonderland
Almost anything in black and white was scary.
"Regular dumb horse"? Horses are known to be extremely intelligent animals. The fact that they don't use human language to communicate, doesn't make them dumb.
My mom had photography book passed down from her side of the family of those post mortum photos.
Elle Michelle .thats fearful.
Interesting.
@@abdulrahimafridi1202 not at a. It's history and that's what they did in their time.
I don't really see the problem with Post Mortem Photography. People today take photos of their dead ones all the time in their coffins right before they are to be buried. Every once in a while, a living member is standing next to the coffin. Sure, they don't put their dead relative in a position, like sitting in a chair, but still, I don't conside it weird. :/
Jonna Jacobsen, I think it's beautiful
When I was a kid back in the early 2000s I went to my grandmas place, i was looking around in the livingroom and found some photo albums,i was horrified, the album I opened up were photos of dead relatives.
The Victorians didn't pose their dead as if they were alive. That is a myth. A PM photo is in a bed or coffin. Period.
Nigga I’m not posting up next to my dead grams w her eyes wide open for any fuckin picture no sirrrrrr😭😭😭
Cleaver Hans was not just a dumb horse. Those investigating this animal failed to understand that Hans was very smart, as he understood, and acted upon, subtle clues from his owner Wilhelm von Osten. Animals will be as smart as you treat them.
BTW: ain't no such animal as a dumb horse.
yea I'm not even a fan of horses, but when he said "just a dumb horse," I was like ayyy I think they're actually pretty smart...kinda offended for a sec, tbh :'D
Sometimes I think humans are pretty dumb, especially when they make statements like "just a dumb horse" :)
Technically speaking, the definition of "dumb" is unable to speak, so in a way, he was a dumb horse; but not at all a stupid horse, or even "just" a dumb horse. Rather, he was a smart animal who, like most animals, simply could not speak. Still, your argument is valid, and the narrator misused the word first. :)
You're right. I'm aware of the meaning of dumb. But the way the narrator used it was a misnomer. Odd how a word with a certain meaning comes to mean something else entirely.
I thought so, but it seemed worth mentioning anyway. Agreed on both counts. I wonder if it started with someone hearing the word, and- not actually knowing what it meant- used it to mean what they thought it meant; and perhaps they told others what they thought it meant, so the new meaning spread. It has happened. I also suspect the word idiot(or "common man") is a similar case; however, this is all mere guesswork.
Occult actually means "hidden", as in "hidden knowledge"..
Imagine a Victorian style ghost busters
Who you gonna call? That depends on if the telephone has been invented yet...
With a all female cast
@@ve5747 get lost
Alisha C, 😂😂😂👏
You know, I genuinely would have never guessed that phrase "Bull in a China" shop was based on true events.
Me either
Photographs were rare and expensive....often people never had the chance to get a picture while their loved ones were living, especially if it was a child. Faced with the idea of burying someone who had never had a portrait done, families chose to have a post mortem portrait done as a remembrance. I think we can all understand what it would be like to realize you had no portrait of a lost love one and to do what we would consider a macabre act now to get one.
shammy dammy that makes so much since🖒
And, we still do this practice today... there are many stillborn and died soon after birth babies that are photographed post mortem. My husband's coworker has a picture of the child they lost an hour after birth, on their desk. It was taken postmortem.
Before photography was invented, people who could afford it often had casts made of the face of their loved ones. The so-called 'death masks.'
I can see that. It's still creepy though,
People take post mortem photos today, it's just not as common.
There aren't as many pm photos from back then as the internet would have you believe, and they didn't find it morbid to photograph the dead as they were, dead and in a bed or coffin.
Victorians believed horses could do Maths and read the Bible but they couldn't accept that women had the intelligence to be writers or anything more than dutiful wives? What a clever society.
Scientists today believe that pigeons are very good at maths.
Not so. The Victorian era was choc full of contradictions. London was for a good deal of the era the child prostitution centre of the world and (if anecdotal evidence is anything to go by) saw no small amount of infanticide. Gin drinking and addiction was endemic.
However as far as 'low intelligence' goes then feel free to look up people like Isabella Bird and Isobel Burton to name just two. The first a much sought after and respected travel writer, the second the wife of Richard Francis Burton and achieved things many modern women would balk at.
It was Victorian women that started the fight for equality in 1832.
The Victorians that made slavery illegal ( shame it took another 50+ years to eradicate child labour). The Victorians set the standards for scientific research in many fields. Those standards still apply.
Also, the Bronte sisters were published & Mary Shelly was still alive & revered during the Victorian era. They clearly didn't think (all) women were rubbish as writers. However, I'm sure they did think all pigeons were no good at maths back then, but thankfully we know differently in this enlightened age.
+Stethacan Thus animals are incredibly intelligent therefore I don't eat animal products :)
Two words...Jane Austen. She drops mike and walks off stage...
It's not odd that the Dutchmen were in Guiana. Colonialism after all. But to be quite honest these only look bizarre in retrospect. People now enjoy movies and shows like American Horror Story that contain things no different then Freak shows.
Oh come on, a horse is a horse of coarse of coarse and no one can talk to a horse of coarse unless of coarse the talking horse is the famous Mr. Ed.
Course not coarse
Unless it is of course, Francis the talking mule.
😂😂😂😂
Omg I loved Mr. Ed we didn't get some American cartoons and series only in the 1980s! We had the likes of Sesame Street too and Fraggle Rock and others but not all of them. We didn't have the cool TV presenter a man. I can't recall his name now but he petitioned CBS so effectively that they extended the show. He was all about being kind and a good neighbour too. I wish that his show was on Irish TV when I was a kid.
Rick Dewitt , Well said !!!
I dont think modern newspapers are good at deciding whats newsworthy either
Memento Mori is beautiful, not creepy.
Sharon Miller just a bit little creepy.👈😐
@@miipmiipmiip it´s older than Christianity
What's creepy is that people actually believe they posed their dead as if they were alive, and painted eyes on them. It's all a myth...........
Interesting tidbit: some of the children in these so called “postmortem” photos were not actually dead. Photographers often used a brace-like tool to help people (especially children) stand still for their portrait. When visible, the tool’s purpose is sometimes misinterpreted as a intended to hold a dead body in a life like pose. Not to say it wasn’t used for postmortem photography sometimes.
They were not used for post mortem photos. It was impossible to pose a dead body standing up with a 30lb stand. The stands were for the living only. A true post mortem photo is clearly post mortem.
I grew up on a farm and had every little girl's dream a pony and Sunset she was extremely smart I swear she was smarter then some humans I know today
I'm assuming the massive shipment of dead cats is referring to the ancient Egyptian mummified cats that were shipped over to be used as medicine.
Yeah, that was thrown in a little willy-nilly
"A regular dumb horse"? Horses are far from dumb! Clever Hans is actually a great example of how extraordinary horses can be. Now, obviously, Clever Hans couldn't actually do math, but what he could do was pick up on the tiniest shifts in his trainer's and audiences' body language. When the audience sat there, anticipating Clever Hans to give an answer to a puzzle by tapping his hoof, there were oh so tiny "micro" shifts in everyone's posture, breathing, and facial expressions. Even when people know they give off these cues, they can't prevent it, which is pretty amazing, isn't it? With each tap of the hoof, the audience would tense up more and more and then relax again when Clever Hans reached the correct answer. He knew that the second that tiny bit of tension was gone, he had reached the expected answer and was to stop tapping his hoof. This horse not only easily acknowledged this pattern in his audiences, he learned to react accordingly. I'd like to see how he can be dismissed as a "dumb horse".
I'm surprised the rituals to prevent being buried alive aren't on here. Some of them got downright weird, like blowing tobacco smoke directly into the anus! Maybe you should make a video on that topic sometime.
? Because I know about that? I had to study it for a class and actually thought the lengths people went through were kind of silly. You have to admit some of their methods were downright odd.
Yeah, where are the Victorian safety coffins? Safety coffins weren't invented in the Victoiran era but their popularity rose because of the high mortality rate and the fact that rich Victorians could afford such contraptions.
I guess they though if a good direct shot of nicotine to the internal system didn't wake your ass up, nothing would! nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Well i guess we now know how the phrase blowing smoke up your ass came to be.
Nothing has really changed - look at all the shows on tv about ghosts and other paranormal things.
Exactly
The narrator sounds condescending.
Especially when he said "just a dumb horse" :p
Love your pic.
My cat, Liam says thank you. I think it is sad when people put something out like this without trying to understand what they're reporting.
and he says "supposably"
+mchris65 lol!
Just A Regular Guy you're a pan of fried vomit
For ten I'm just imagining one really drunk guy thinking of the brilliant idea of making everyone think the devil was passing by. I know I would have taken the opportunity.
The balloonists were given a pistol (you say), but your animation shows them using rifles with attached bayonets.
Thank you for the Devil's Footprints story. I heard that once as a child but hadn't heard it again until now.
thats weird as i too heard about this when i was a child also (frightened the crap out of me!!!) and hadn't heard about it again until watching this video (I'm 49 years old now) strange really really strange!!! :-D
That is weird! I read about it in an obscure true horror collection.
Terry Deary?
So long ago I can"t even remember the author. Not sure but I think it also had a really cool story about the number of people who hung themselves from the 39th brick up (same brick) that they wedged out of the wall of cell 39 in Alcatraz prison.
Hey who are you calling horses dumb?! Lol.
Which of these things would you want to happen now?
neither o.o
devils footprints
+Eskify Taking pictures with dead bodies, of course. :)
+Aaron Damien no of corpse
+Eskify - Given the recent US story of a man selling diseased body parts for 'research' purposes...I think a case could be made for the continuing existence of body snatchers. We still have ghost hunters as well, and post mortem photos (especially if the deceased was any kind of famous). Great stinks still rise above many cities nowadays, so it is either resurrecting Queen Victoria, or the devil's footprints. Let's go with the footprints, and leave Her Majesty in peace. :) Loved this video...thanks for an outstanding job, as usual.
Clever Hans actually wasn't dumb at all (I highly object to calling animals dumb anyway - they are intellegent enough for their own purposes, otherwise they would have gone extinct). In fact, what Hans was capable of was perhaps even more stunning than what they claimed he could do (maths, reading and the like). What he COULD do was sense the tension of the audience or his owner telling him when he came to the right answer (like beating his hoof on the ground to indicate time or the right solution to a maths question). Without people around, he couldn't do those tricks, he needed the audience to unconsciously tell him the right answer or his owner giving him those subtle clues. But that amount of sensitivity is, in my opinion, striking indeed and far from dumb.
Also, "occult" does not mean "paranormal" - it merely means "hidden from view".
Graupe - I agree that most animals are relatively clever. Anytime I see the descriptor of "dumb" applied to animals, I always assume the author is referring to the original meaning of dumb - unable to speak. Given this definition, all animals are dumb.
Dutchmen in Guyana isn't weird.
The Dutch controlled Guyana at that time.
kangaroo's do not have hooves......
Yes they do and the hooves are cloven
The illustration used in #10 is not that of a cloven hoof. Duh? Kangaroos don't have cloven hooves, either. They have three toes on their hind feet, with claws.
um...like maybe a horse got out?
i don't think a horse could walk like that if it tried
Jason Sunderland , Hmmmm, Yes,quite. However , your decision to call out a minor grammer error on You- tube is , indeed telling,,,,,,,,,,,xx,,, ,,,,,,,,,xxz
Kangaroos have two feet and arms. Not hind feet lol .
The Victorians wouldn't necessarily have known this?
My thoughts at number 10 was literally "God dammit Sebastian cover your tracks when you walk in your true form"
Cara Beckett IM SCREAMING! I WAS LOOKING FOR ANOTHER BLACK BUTLER FAN LIKE ME OMGGG
Cara Beckett but his true form wears hooker boots.
I WAS HOPING SOMEONE WOULD SAY IT
Cancer
the headline "a bull in a china shop" still quoted today
Dueling in the Victorian Age? Any dueling in the Victorian age was an anomaly. For the most part in the UK dueling died out in the early 1800's The "dead' cats were ancient mummified cats from Egypt that were used for a number of things including medicine and fertilizer.
Europeans being in Guyana in the 1870’s isn’t unusual at all, considering it was a colony.
...With cobbles, and plague, and speaking in rhyme!
DHMIS.
omfg you just made my day
What...
ionryful With cobbles and chimneys a simpler time!
Going down a rabbit hole of Eskify, love your content!
The hoofprints explanation is easy, someone tied or glued horse's hoofs to the bottom of their shoes and walked one foot directly in front of the other. Anyone can make single file footprints like that in the snow by walking in that way.
Very cool video. It is crazy to imagine that this time period did not happen that long ago.
"This made life difficult for politicians as they worked right next to the Thames and at one point they even had to close parliament due to the stench". I see nothing much has changed in politics through the last 100 years.
Post mortem photography was popular because it was hard to keep still for such a long time while the pic is being taken.So while ur dead u don't move = clearer pics
Why on earth would anyone want to ship 19 TONS(!!!) of dead cats, and.... where the hell would they get them???? That's just wrong!
People: “Omg this horse can speak!”
Germans: “Hold my beer”
I can’t watch anymore after hearing supposably twice instead of supposedly!! 🤦🏼♀️
I know he's ANNOYING and Thicker than Shit💩
Cringe! Lbvs
It's even worse to see it written that way.
Love your videos. Keep up the good work!
People can talk crap about the Victorian age as much as they want, but look at what is trending in the news or on UA-cam today or even facebook... this is a lotttttt better than worrying about Kim Kardashian ass, that isn't even real lol or about stupid pointless "challenges" or worrying about what celebrity showed their ass, boobs or other body parts... people now a days are getting worse and worse. I swear people just become more un-intelligent and only worry about others lives and don't even live their own..
That's factually incorrect considering that the newer generations excell at harder IQ tests with more ease than the previous ones.
Puritan spotted
"People are too free and not oppressed enough today"
You blew it! You should have had a list within a list within a list. 2 lists isn't deep enough :D
You ever think of how years and years from now there will be speculations like this about our era?
Thanks for sharing!
The grate stink is something I as a mom of teenage boys can relate to.
Awesome channel! As a history buff I wish I'd found you sooner because now it's going to be Monday Victorian Wierdness Binge Day. Stay Safe and Healthy Everyone!! ♡♡
this confirms a theory i've had for some time: for most of the nineteenth century, everyone born in England (possibly other places, more data required) was batshit crazy from the start.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I was expecting something else but this is perfect.
Batshit crazy but with some of the world's best inventors and industrialists of the period. You're welcome. ;-)
Well the British basically ruled the world during the Victorian era. So how stupid does that make everyone else?
didn't say stupid; i said crazy. crazy can be helpful for aggressive shit like taking over other countries.
Death Photography was a means of keeping something of the Dearly Departed with the survivors, especially if it was a child.
The Parliament next to the Thames during the Great Stink; that pretty well encapsulates the general feelings people have for politicians over all...
So Alexandria Victoria chose Victoria as her regal name-so what? Hemophilia was around a LOT LONGER than the Victorian Era. Cases were first documented as afar back as the 10th century, so it was around a lot longer...
That house at 8:00 is the Carson house in Eureka, California. It's rarely open for tours but you can park and take pics from the street.
The Post mortem pictures were a common thing as Death was a perfectly normal topic of discussion for the Victorians. They were also really superstitious, and went out of their way to identify when death would come. One of my favorite examples was holding one’s breath while passing a cemetery.
one reason for corpse photos is the earliest cameras didn't work with any speed, and the subject had to hold still for upwards of a minute+.
Absolutely not. They took post mortem photos because photography was new and expensive. In cases of children, it may have been the only photo they had taken. Post mortem photos were obvious. Don't believe the nonsense.
Great Stink vs. Boston's Molasses tsunami. Tough call. . .
I already knew about Vicky, and it makes me feel a lot better to know that she was just as short as I am.
i love the balloon story, reminds me of a story idea i once had (and promptly forgot to write, lol), wherein the weapon of choice was manipulation to get someone to kill the other person, paid assassins excluded.
All of this reminds me of the current US presidential campaigns. I dunno why. But it's naught creepier than our peculiar and current "Big Stink"...Social Media
Sadly, postmortem photos are still done every day in the Obstetric floors of modern hospitals, as things go wrong with pregnancies more than we like to think (about 1 out of every 4 does not reach full-term) and there are only a few situations that can be addressed. For many women today, the only pictures they have of a child is after death.
That Easter bunny was scary as hell
Victorian age: "Any experienced magician could fool them into believing the paranormal"
Today: "Any creepy youtube video could fool them into believing the paranormal"
I get post-mortem photos.
Sometimes the thought of losing one you love is just that unbearable.
The Devil's footprints was referred to by the newspapers as Springheeled Jack...
I love all your videos
Some people still take post mortem photos, parents of still births for example. Some people still take them at funerals, there's now a huge trend for posing the body to look at they did in life, like dead boxer who was posed in the ring, or the guy propped up at a poker game with his friends and family. Some things really never change.
I am really enjoying our vids lately.Keep it up
A lot of photos believed to be post-mortem photography weren't... if the photo features a corpse, it's generally pretty obvious. And that hot air balloon duel is one of the most Steampunk things ever.
“SupposaBly”??? Holy Lord, man, REALLY?! Also, “wea-ver” instead of “weaTHer”? Yikes!
Thank you! I was literally just thinking that when I read your comment! Is there a whole different Brit word "supposibly" or...?
I can accept accent on weather but never supposibly
The devil is an angel, so he would not leave footprints. He does not have hooves.....he is the most beautiful of all created beings. The idea of hooves came from Catholicism's flirtation with paganism. The god of mischief came to be people's idea of Lucifer.
satan actually came from paganism, his name is Baphomet
Tavros Nitram Yes. Baphomet, Set, Beelzebub, Pan....all are the ancient gods incorporated into the Catholic idea of the devil. They were heavily influenced by dualism, so beauty = good and ugly - evil.
Yes this makes
*total*
Sence
@@tavrosnitram1529 Baphomet and Satan are not the same: ultraculture.org/blog/2016/02/08/baphomet-sabbatic-goat/
@@stephenszucs8439 Pan is a wood nymph, not a devil.
My great father witnessed these "devil's footprints" and we recently found a hat box filled with
post-mortem pics. My great aunt remembered the pics being vividly. First she was confused because she new the relatives in the pics had already died before the date written on the pic.
Devils footprints were just Santa's reindeer..
They weren’t more simple than us...
How many people today still believe in supernatural bullcrap on shows like Netflix...
I had never heard about the belief that ghosts appear more in cold weather. But I knew it.
That ending is epic!!! Lmao
at #10 i was like "Damn it Sebastian" XD
I'm still trying to figure out what the hell they'd do with those cats ... hehehe
Queen Victoria was not the "first known case of hemophilia". In 1803, an American physician named John Otto of Philadelphia published an article regarding a bleeding disorder which affected primarily men and ran in certain families, and incidences of excessive or abnormal bleeding had been documented hundreds of years before.
Taking pictures of dead things would be interesting but creepy.
Another great video, as always
1. Devils footprints
2. The Balloon Duel
3. Post mortem photography
4. The Great Stink/ Dirty father Thames
5. Trick horses
6. Unusual news stories
7. Occultism
8. London Dialectical Society
9. Body snatching
10. Five Facts about Queen Victoria
You know what was also a mystery? The little ice age that caused the temperature to drop enough for London to get as much snow as Chicago.
Don't dismiss postmortem photography as creepy if it comforted the survivors of the newly dead. It's still practiced today but to a lesser extent. As a photographer I was hired by a gent to photograph his deceased wife, with and without him. He didn't consider it creepy and neither did I.
The shipment of dead cats was almost certainly a shipment of *mummified* cats, which were so plentiful in Egypt they were used for fertilizer.
Not weird that the duel in #9 involved 2 Europeans in Guiana. Guiana was a Dutch colony for a long time, and later was broken into multiple sections belonging to different empires.
Should probably add some sort of way to show where the audio at the end is from.
Like a link or something.
The thumbnail......... from my gcse history medicine through time question ahhh couldn't say much about it lol
0:48 Really? Just like that *fingersnaps* devil? We're not leaving it with more ideas like the Great Pumpkin or the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
"Clever Hans" wasn't a regular "dumb" horse. He was able to pick up subtle clues in the body language of his audience. It's more than most people can do ;) When no audience was present, he couldn't tell the time or count, but with people there knowing the answer he was able to pick up the audience's posture and expectations and react acccordingly.
Exactly, his owner/ trainer was giving him clues (unintentionally). This example is heavily discussed in Psychological Testing and Assessment classes as an example examiner/observer influence in testing.
At the mention of Golden Dawn, you'd have been prudent to mention Alister Crawley.
Suriname was a Dutch colony called Dutch Guiana at the time. Not unusual for 2 Dutchman to be in a Dutch colony.
Just a shot in the dark here, but I read, correct me if I’m wrong, that during the Victorian Era the number of total fatalities from folks takin’ a kick in the head from Mules & Horses are as high as a Georgia Pine.
Great video
Didn't Crowley take over Golden Dawn at one stage? You also forgot to mention Victorian ladies love of ''back massagers'' .
If I remember correctly, clever Hans his owner actually believed the horse could do arithmics. He didn't realize himself that the horse was reacting to cues from him (or even that he gave them). Kind of harsh to delict him as a con man
Oh that's where the term one trick pony comes from :D