Rockford Fosgate: Power Compact Amp Overview (3.4)
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- This is an educational overview on the POWER COMPACT series amplifier models.
These small chassis Power Series amplifiers take all the latest technology that Rockford Fosgate has developed and combined it with the power capability you've come to expect out of a Power Series amplifier, and we packed it into a small chassis heatsink who's performance is truly amazing. This video will take a closer look at these amplifiers, where they came from and what makes them up.
The inspiration for the new compact power amps started from the Punch "PBR" series of compact amplifiers. When they were introduced, we quickly realized the sub-compact sized amplifier was becoming the solution to a lot of new applications. Custom motorcycle shops and offroad enthusiasts were introducing us to a whole new world of Rockford Fanatics. Using their imagination and skills to build some truly radically new machines. Seeing this, we asked the questions: Can we do more? Can we improve on the design and create something even better? With that challenge at hand, we set out to combine the best that Rockford has in amplifier technology and put it all together in a scaled down amplifier chassis.
T500X1br: Power 500 Watt Class-BR Mono Amplifier
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T750X1bd: Power 750 Watt Class-bd Mono Amplifier
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T400X2ad: Power 400 Watt Class-AD 2-Channel Amplifier
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T400X4ad: Power 400 Watt Class-ad 4-Channel Amplifier
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T1000X5ad: Power 1,000 Watt Class-ad 5-Channel Amplifier
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**ABOUT THIS VIDEO**
The following video was originally produced for our RTTI (Rockford Technical Training Institute) dealer training program and is now being made available to the public.
I love that to Rockford answers customers questions in there social media pages. Unlike other companies that you refer you to there tech support. Great job Rockford !
Thank you for the recognition! We love helping Fanatics and also helping to save the world from bad Car Audio!
nice..great info and vid guys..keep up the good work!! ✌😉
I just had the 400w installed, today, and it is extremely hot. What are people doing to solve this issue? I was thinking of getting a flat 1/4" piece of aluminum and mounting it to that so it increases the heat sink size. Maybe 2" longer and wider than the measurements of the amp so it also sits off the vehicle and gets air under it as well.
Unless the amplifier is getting too hot and shutting down, the heatsink is doing exactly what it’s designed for.
add a fan or two to it to help dissipate the heat faster. Reduce the impedence load you are putting it under. If running 1ohm, move up to 2. If running full range but only running mids/highs, consider active filtering. Those are a few ways that might reduce heat but it will likely be negligible.
I just got the T750x1bd and I am blown away at the size and the “clean” look of this amp. It’s like a pinnacle of audio engineering.
I have a few questions though:
Is the “Punch EQ” knob on the amp, the same thing as the PLC2 controller? Is there an “optimal” tuning/set-point for these knobs?
Is 8 AWG really sufficient for the power/gnd? The PVC said this amp was tested to 1,054 watts at 1ohm, and it seems like I would need a 4awg wire for that ampacity at 14.4V?
Is the “Input Level” knob the same thing as Gain? (Thank you for the clipping lights, very cool!)
The Punch EQ controls Bass: 0 to +18 dB @ 45 Hz and the PLC2 is a "level" control linked to the input level of the amplifier. Yes, the Input Level knob is the Gain. The Punch EQ and PLC2 should start off at minimum, then adjust to taste. The amplifier utilizes a Class BD topology with an > 85% efficiency. Since the max current at 1ohm is 86 A, this is within spec to around 15 feet. Since this is a bass amp, you'll likely be using a 1/0 cable from the charging system back to the amp rack, where you will be distributing power to all your amplifiers.
Rico!! You taught me at Mobile Dynamics!!
I miss the days of the exterior being a work of Art. Bring back the DSM look and the .2 and @2 style amps. They were wild looking and made displaying them part if the fun.
What was the last Rockford Fosgate amplifier you had, and how did it compare to the .2 and a2 style amps?
@@rockfordfosgate I had a 360@2 i let go in a corvette I sold unfortunately. I still have the freaking box and all the documents and hardware!
I just hooked up my old DSM 100iX in my trailblazer ss to run in 2ohm mono bridged (2 JL 10W1v2-4 in parallel sealed box). Slams.. never got over 125f on the infrared.
I ha e had so many RF amps including buying out a stereo shop going out of business years ago I ended up with 2 power 1100@2 (non chromes) a ton of transanna amps. I have to say the most impressed I ever was with any Fosgate amps was and still is the little old punch 100iX. Has never left me needing for more power. The DSM are better amps imo than anything that came after them. I have had Orion everything as well. Always ran so hot. Never ran at 1ohm like advertised without shutting down.
@@charliejonesjr5518 Thanks for being a dedicated Rockford Fosgate fanatic! The amplifiers you listed are really great performers, especially the Power 1100a2 models. The unregulated power supply configuration of our circuit topology made Punch amplifiers famous with the 45, 75, and 150, and we continued to use that platform in the DSM models. Did you know, we still utilize that same platform in all current Rockford Fosgate amps? They still outperform their power ratings as the ones from the 1990's.
@@rockfordfosgate I have zero doubt that as always RF puts in the work. I want some art to go with it like the earlier days. Transana DSM and the like. The newest amps are getting too Tesla steril in the looks for my taste. My friends feel the same way. Maybe we are outdated in our 40s idk. But I will admit what keeps me from buying new amplifiers (Not just from RF from anyone) is the lack of uniqueness or art form of the case. They're clean but boring.
@@charliejonesjr5518 I appreciate your reasoning and willingness to explain, so thank you for taking the time to put down your thoughts. I'll be sure to submit your feedback to our New Product Development team. Hope you and your family had a great Thanksgiving and look forward to a wonderful Christmas & New Year. We all know 2020 was a dumpster fire we'd like to extinguish.
Hi
Hoping you can help me out.
Would the T750X1BD be too powerful to power my single P3D4-12? Would I be better to look at the R2-500X1?
Thank you
Great question! The P3D4-12 sub2woofer is rated to handle 600W RMS. The T750X1bd is rated to produce 750 Watts x 1 @ 2-Ohm with Dynamic Power at 900W, so that's going to over power the subwoofer. The R2-500X1 will produce 500 Watts x 1 @ 2Ω with Dynamic Power at 590W, so that's a better matching amplifier.
@@rockfordfosgate awesome thank you!
I have a pair of P2 12s would you recommend the T750 to power them or do you think a T1000x5 could run them? I do plan on getting T1 components and 6x9s down the road
Hi Anthony, what model number P2 12" do you have? This should be on the back of the magnet. It will help me understand what generation you have and the voice coil impedance.
@@rockfordfosgate i have the newest generation P2-2X12 enclosure
@@anthonyc9261 Great! Thank you for that information. The P2-2X12 is designed to handle up to 800 Watts RMS and is prewired to a 1-Ohm load. Based on this criteria, there are 3 amplifiers that will match perfectly. You'll notice the continuous power rating is lower than the subwoofer's 800W capacity, consider the amp's dynamic output as the amount of power you'll really get once installed (Rockford Fosgate amps produce more than rated for.) The T1000X5ad is a good choice, but I feel the T750X1 is way too much power. I ordered them relative to power output:
T1000X5ad (5-channel)
Sub Channel Rated: 500 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm
Sub Channel Dynamic: 663 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm
www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/t1000x5ad/
T500-1bdCP (mono)
Rated: 500 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm
Dynamic: 707 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm
www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/t500-1bdcp/
P500X1bd (mono)
Rated: 500 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm
Dynamic: 787 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm
www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p500x1bd/
R2-750X1 (mono)
Rated: 750 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω
Dynamic: 830 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω
www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/r2-750x1/
P1000X5 (5-channel)
Sub Channel Rated: 500 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm
Sub Channel Dynamic: 863 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm
www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p1000x5/
T750X1bd (mono)
Rated: 750 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm
Dynamic: 990 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm
www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/t750x1bd/
@@rockfordfosgate great! Thank you I think I will be looking into getting a P1000x5 then!
Does the Rockford 1800 watt 4 channel amp have 2 separate power supplies?
@Shelly Nantz I'm not sure what amp you're referring to. What is the model number of the amplifier?
What Power amp would give me plenty of power for a pair of T1S2 12's?Don't want to damage the subs with too much power.
Two T1S2-12 subwoofers can be wired to a 1-ohm or 4-ohm load and provide 1200 Watts of power handling (600W/woofer). We would recommend the Power T1000-1bdCP amplifier since it's rated at 1,000 Watts x 1 @ 1-ohm, but can produce up to 1395 Watts under typical dynamic conditions.
Thank you!
Hello I have two Rockford Fosgate P3D4 12” subs in a sealed box and I’m powering them with a P1000x1BD currently. I want to redo my setup with physically smaller amps would it be possible to run my current sub setup with a T750X1bd?
Yes, as both amplifiers are 1Ω stable, the wiring is compatible for those two subwoofers. The main difference is the P1000X1db produces up to 1,430 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm and the T750X1bd produces up to 990 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm.
Great video. Just to be clear, I would not need a LOC and there would not be a need for a remote wire connection.....
Correct, these amplifiers utilize a built-in LOC and area ready to accept +/6V DC offset to turn the amplifier on/off when using speaker line outputs as your input signal.
I purchased the T750x1db
With forced cooling, can this be mounted upside down? I know from experience regular amps have trouble cooling.
It's better at handling heat-build up, so as long as the fans can replenish the hot air will cool air, the amp will work fine inverted.
Thank you for the quick reply.
@@rockfordfosgate ,
Does the Rockford 1800 watt 4 c
hannel amp have two separate power supplies?
@@shellynantz2821 I'm not sure what amp you're referring to. What is the model number of the amplifier?
Amp purchased. Would I be able to run this with a jl audio 12sub Tw 3d4 (4ohms dual @ 400w¿ I need to use a shallow mounted sub but the p3 doesn’t have very promising reviews. Thanks in advance.
What model compact amplifier did you purchase? If you're looking for a shallow mounted subwoofer, the Power T1 Slim is what you're looking for. With the Punch P3S, people are accustomed to comparing it to the standard mount P3 subwoofer, while expecting more SPL and deeper bass, which is not the case. The Power T1 Slim is an outstanding subwoofer that provides equivalent performance to the standard sized T1 subwoofer.
I purchased the T750x1db
@@LaurieBenjamin Thanks for that information! The Power T750X1bd is rated to produce 750 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm, so if you're looking to power a single subwoofer, you'll want to use the T1S1-12 which is rated to handle up to 600W, so this is a pretty close match. Be careful when setting your gains because technically you can over-power a single subwoofer and will burn the voice coil if not careful. If you're looking to power 2 subwoofers, this would be perfect ... in that case you'll want the Power T1S2-12 subwoofers.
That’s for the quick response as always. Can you recommend two 8s or 10s. I think two twelves would be to much.
@@LaurieBenjamin You're welcome! For 10's we'd recommend the Power T1S2-10 subwoofers. They will rock and you'll have enough power handling to handle that mighty monster amplifier!
I have two P3D4-10 what amp i need and is prime punch or power
Great subwoofer choice! The P3D4-10 subwoofers are rated to handle 600W each, so you'll have 1,200W of total power handling that can be wired to a 1-ohm or 4-ohm load. These amplifiers are a good match:
R2-1200X1
Rated at 1200 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω with Dynamic Power of up to 1,389 Watts x 1.
rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/r2-1200x1/
P1000X1bd
Rated at 1000 Watts x 1 @ 1-Ohm with Dynamic Power of up to 1,430 Watts x 1.
rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p1000x1bd/
How would you compare and contrast your T1000X5AD with a competitively price, similarly powered amp - like the JL RD900/5?
The RD900/5 is $579.99 which is more in-line with the Punch P1000X5 which is $499.99. The main difference is the JL model utilizes all Class-D whereas the RF is Class-A/B on the front/rear and only Class-D on the sub channel. Many fanatics prefer the sound of Class-A/B on their midrange/tweeters due to the natural sound characteristics of the analog circuitry. Class-D isn't as big of a deal since it's harder to hear with sub frequencies. A secondary advantage of the Rockford Fosgate amplifier is the higher output power on the front/rear channels. If you wanted to compare against the compact Power T1000X5ad, the biggest difference is the CLEAN setup where it has both INPUT and OUTPUT clip LEDs, for a more precise setup configuration. I added links to both the Punch & Power amps below:
RD900/5
Main Channels: 70 W RMS x 4 @ 4Ω
Main Channels: 100 W RMS x 4 @ 2Ω
Subwoofer Channel: 500 W RMS x 1 @ 2Ω
P1000X5
Main Channels: 75 Watts x 4 @ 4Ω
Main Channels: 125 Watts x 4 @ 2Ω
Subwoofer Channel: 500 Watts x 1 @ 1Ω
Punch P1000X5
www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p1000x5/
Power T1000X5ad
www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/t1000x5ad/
Just got the 4-channel 400 watt version and have a question about the setup using the CD. The first part is simple, just disconnect the speaker output on the amp, pop in the CD to the head unit, and raise the HU volume until the input clip LED flashes red, then dial back the volume a notch until the red LED goes out. The next part is confusing though, because it says you increase the input levels on the amp until the "appropriate color" comes on in the output clip LED, but doesn't say what color that is and the LED first goes to blue and then red.
The instructions don't indicate if you stop the input when it turns blue, or dial it back until the blue light goes away, or increase it further until it turns red, or what. If someone knows, please let me know. FWIW, I tried it first by stopping when it turned blue but the volume was so loud even at low levels (my HU goes to 40 and it was loud at 10, whereas with my old R-F PBR300X4 it wasn't that loud at 40) that I dialed it back a quarter turn before it turns blue and it seems better.
The 2nd part is done using the same method as the input clip. Please note that adjusting the clip indicators requires you to disconnect all speakers from the amplifier. With the source unit at the cleanest, highest output (that you just set during the 1st part), you increase the amplifier gain until the LED turns RED, then back it off until it only illuminates BLUE. You're done! All you need is to reduce the source unit volume and attach the speaker wires to the amplifier.
I think he taught me to install car audio back in 2004 at Mobile Dynamics in Phoenix. Rocco?
Rico, yes he was at Mobile Dynamics prior to Rockford Fosgate.
Rockford Fosgate He was such a great teacher and really informative
I just want to now if the 1000watt 4-channel amp is still able to be gotten. And not $5000.00.
The T1000X5ad is still a current model. You can find pricing here: rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/t1000x5ad/
Do you have a 5 channel version with 75 watts RMS?
Yes, check out the Rockford Fosgate Punch P1000X5: rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p1000x5/
Do you need a capacitor with the t750x1
It's not required but it doesn't hurt. You'll going to hear a lot of advice about capacitors, but a lot of that is misguided opinion based on a blanket statement on *all* amplifiers. Since Rockford Fosgate uses unregulated power supplies, capacitors actually work well by providing voltage stability and current reserve when needed.
How would these work behind a car stereo in the dash ?
Great, but we would advise to make sure the amplifier has plenty of room to circulate air and NOTHING plastic touches the heat-sink or you'll create a unique scent unlike Fresh Linen or Cherry flavor.
@@rockfordfosgate lol
at 100watts per channel, you're telling me it is making more power than an old school P400.4 amp? I know this geared towards motorcycles and such, what about cars/trucks? How can this little thing put out so much? My P400.4 weighs like 15-20lbs.
Yes, these are designed for compact areas for use in motorcycles, cars, trucks, SUVs, Vans, camping trailers, etc. The Punch 400.4 is a Class-A/B amplifier that had lower 4-ohm power ratings, whereas the Power T400x4ad is a Class-A/D amplifier with Constant Power. Below are the power ratings, but don't take our word for it, they were tested using CEA-2006 guidelines, the industry standard in amplifier test parameters. Also, I don't recall anytime we said they were light ... they are densely packed power houses.
400.4 Rated Power
50W x 4 @ 4-ohms
100W x 4 @ 2-ohms
400.4 Dynamic Power
60W x 4 @ 4-ohms
130W x 4 @ 2-ohms
T400x4ad Rated Power
100 Watts x 4 @ 4-Ohm
100 Watts x 4 @ 2-Ohm
T400x4ad Dynamic Power
128 Watts x 4 @ 4-Ohm
152 Watts x 4 @ 2-Ohm
ZGERMAN You sad human being. You think weight determines the power? LOL
Lol I know right? I was blown away at the size of this thing. Idk how they did it, but I trust the PVC and the Rockford name