STEVEN WILSON & TIM BOWNESS discuss RADIOHEAD, COLDPLAY, U2 & more! THE ALBUM YEARS (2000 Part 1)
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- Опубліковано 1 тра 2024
- The Album Years podcast returns (for the first time in video form!) with Steven Wilson and Tim Bowness diving head first into the year 2000 to discuss albums from Radiohead, Coldplay, U2 & more.
00:00:00 The Album Years Title Sequence
00:00:18 Introduction
00:03:49 Radiohead - Kid A
00:12:40 Coldplay - Parachutes
00:13:24 Oasis - Standing on the Shoulder of Giants
00:15:13 Doves - Lost Souls
00:17:50 Placebo - Black Market Music / Blackbox Recorder - Facts of Life
00:18:26 More on Radiohead - Kid A
00:20:01 Chris Morris - Blue Jam
00:27:49 Gas - Pop
00:31:47 Broadcast - The Noise Made By People
00:36:17 U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind
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Steven has the youth elixir
Have been an avid listener on Spotify since the beginning, however i'm very much looking forward to watching these two music nerds on video!
Doves “Lost Souls” is one of my favorite albums from this year, I played that album to death when it came out.
can't believe it's been almost 3 years since this podcast started. it's helped me discover so much music, thanks Tim and Steven!
Awesome to hear Doves get a mention - they were my favourite band until I discovered Porcupine Tree (still love them) - and I love that Steven and Tim could appreciate Lost Souls. It has a sound all its own, part northern soul, part cinematic soundscape, part indie rock, drenched in atmosphere.
Please keep doing the video version of this, its great :)
Spotify and these two blocks are the best way to discover new names.
You meant "blokes", right? Lol
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I think this podcast is going to lead to a lot of purchases😂
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The Doves, Radiohead and Broadcast top that bunch for me. The Doves catalog is brilliant Steven, surprised you didn't know them.
Doves is top tier... The layering is immense, Steven would really appreciate the production for sure.
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Doves. Absolute class.
Anyone who loves Broadcast should keep an eye on my uploads, I have lots of rare live footage that is a bitch for me to upload...I only got a few things on so far, but I've found full concerts shot with real camera equipment which I even showed to the band after the show and they were pretty impressed...just sayin'...and hearing Steven Wilson talking about them makes me happy...they were brilliant and spooky, and very nice people. It's so sad it was over so quickly.
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Radiohead were always way ahead of everybody else.
Except creep
What makes OK Computer so good is the fact it holds more relevance today than it did in 1997.
KiD A is the greatest left turn in Music history. That album is a 21st century classic.
Hell yeah, great to have this on UA-cam, hope this keeps going!
Thanks for this!!!
What a treat! Thanks for this
Best podcast! And great to see a video of it
This is better than the telly! 👍
I’m so excited to SEE you guys talk!
Well, this is exciting.
Another brilliant show and really happy these episodes are coming out regularly now. And delighted The Strawbs got a mention!
Im very glad for u to upload the whole episode for free
Next level album years! Been listening since pod 1 and LOVE this evolution. Thank you for continuing to feed our musical XP with your experiences!
excelent episode!
Wow! Look at you, literally! Love it
So glad youre doing with video now. Thank you both for the great music and for always helping me discover or rediscover great music. Cheers 🍻
Subscribed. ❤
Wasn't aware of a podcast on Spotify so I shall be giving those a listen. Very pleased Chris Morris got a mention. I look forward to hearing more
Excelente y con subtitulos en español!!👏👏
Cool to have these great convo’s on YT
I LOVE this podcast, I really hope you keep doing this on video. Thank you very much for all the music you have recommended!! 😃
Thank you
Very good show chaps.
I hope they'll talk about Ulver's Perdition City in the next episode
definitely would love to hear more about how your own music fit into the picture
I think people were cynical about U2 initially because of Rattle and Hum. I think that’s where the ‘careerist’ allegations came into it. If you watch the movie and listen to the record I do believe it’s U2 being amazed by the music and the country and allowing it to shape their output. They were accused of all kinds of nonsense with Rattle and Hum. The fact that they came from Ireland and all of the geographical, sociopolitical machinations of that meant America was a massive deal for them. R and H and the JT is about the discovery of this other land. It’s about reverence for and exploration of but also criticism of - Bullet the Blue Sky, Mother’s of the Disappeared etc. The real problem with U2 is that they haven’t made a decent album in years. No Line on the Horizon was the last interesting thing they did.
I agree fully with the first part of your post. U2 have always been fans of other artists, and they have done some incredible collaborations with others through the years. I think they were truly enamored by America, the blues, country and gospel.
I would say that you should give some proper listening to the last two albums. I like them better than All That and Atomic Bomb. The biggest crime is the Edge not doing what he does best on these albums, but still some great songs.
Atomic Bomb is a perfect album
Great podcast. I compiled an 'Album Years 2000 playlist' on Spotify to go along with this
I was fine with the podcast... handy to listen to while driving. But it's great to to hang out with Tim and Steven.
I love this UA-cam video. Big fan of the podcasts but this is even better and very well produced too.
Finally with visuals! After 30 years I learned how to pronounce Autechre which I was doing wrong all this time. I hope they do it correct.
My first time listening to the podcast. I know half of these albums, and I'm grateful to discover the other half. Lovely conversation, and great recommendations!! 🙂🙂🙂
please, more on UA-cam!
I absolutely love you guys
A British-centric group of albums on this episode, even more than usual! Great to have the visual version option!
yay 4 utube premiere
Love the new format guys - please keep the show going!
Any chance for a 90s one after this (perhaps 91 or 94) ? It’s been a while and your thoughts on mbv, slint, talk talk, portishead and nin have been missed :D
Thumbs through the roof for Tim's mention of 'retro-futurism'!
keep working
An episode on grunge would be amazing❤
The new start with my birth year
So happy to hear Steven namecheck Orville the Duck, proper bucket list moment that 😄
Excellent video production values, chaps... although I'd expect nothing less from you two 😉
Encuentro muchas similitudes con radiohead y con la musica de Steven a nivel de evolución musical, maravillosos ambos!!
Been a massive fan of the podcast, so I'm stoked for this to be on UA-cam now. Awesome!
1 1/2 episodes in did not know this podcast existed and both of you have talked about some of my fave all time artists already so well....loving it....and i look forward to diving into past and future episodes. 👍👍👍
Also loving the fact Steve enjoys some of my fave artists or knows about them well (Sunno, God Speed You! Black Emperor, Goldfrapp, Faust, Iron Maiden etc.)....metalheads take note the man who produced Blackwater Park has opinions and loves alot of different music!!! 👏👏👏
Feels weird to say it but year 2000 feels so old now....
And Broadcast!!!! Love them - they are amazing. Have everything by them.
I'm 51 years old, and 2010, for me, was an important year for The Album, especially in the alternative rock genre. The National (High Violet) Spoon (Transference) are just two examples. These are not debut albums but both propelled these bands into "near" mainstream. Consider exploring 2010. LOVE the Podcast!!!!!!
I never loved Doves, liked tracks, but it was never enough. As Tim mentioned, their earlier electronic beginning (as Sub Sub) was for me a lot better, albeit, much more limited in releases. I'd definitely be interested in re-investigating Doves in whole. Re: Radiohead, they definite borrow more expertly than others, are more talented than most, and Thom is always searching for the next interesting thing (which maybe why he wouldn't think the "album years" ends at the turn of the century because he's still finding stuff a few months before many others (and in many cases helping these albums to blow up). Never checked out Chris Morris, description sounds quite interesting. Fully agree w/ Steve re: GAS/Wolfgang Voigt. Love Broadcast. Still miss them even though they kind of haven't gone away (loving demos will be released, hating it'll be likely the last we hear from them). Trish is ever so missed. In describing the quality of her voice, they miss the content of her lyrics which fit in any era while the voice harkens to the 50s-60s and as Tim said, the electronics are futuristic. I didn't distrust U2's motives (they're a rock band, c'mon), I just thought they got boring and became the "wallpaper music" Bono used to be famously quoted for saying in interviews before they became the biggest rock band in the world.
Love to see ! A pity however how it ends… when is part 2 coming??
Recently the Podcasts have been weekly and posted on a Tuesday late in the day.
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Kid A es un fantastico album!! Radiohead es una de mis bandas favoritas; el disco de coldplay esta bastante bien, que bien la mencion de standing on the shoulder de oasis buen album!!
Great podcast and enjoyed the thoughtful discussion. I do take exception to one part regarding U2. You said that everyone wanted to be Radiohead and U2 was no exception.
I think you have your timeline off. Achtung Baby was released in 1991 and Zooropa in 93, before Radiohead had even released a proper album.
What is apparent is that The Bends and Ok Computer were substantially influenced by Achtung and Zooropa.
I totally agree about Radiohead being influenced by U2 on The Bends and OK Computer (which is mentioned at some point in the podcast), but I think it's possible that - in turn - U2 were subsequently inspired by Radiohead's work that was more traditionally 'Rock Quartet' based. Ok Computer was massive and it was difficult to avoid at the time.
Love the video look😂😂😂
U2's ATYCLB is huge. Steven's right about Elevation but songs like In a Little While and Wild Honey are just perfect.
Enjoyed AYs first venture on to UA-cam. Can I point out an editing school boy error. The Gas record was displayed while you were talking about Boards of Canada 😮.
Great first part! Not counting on it, but it would be crazy to hear them cover Hybrid Theory by Linkin Park, which also released in 2000 (I know it’s not really a genre both of them like, lol 😂).
17:15 I understand what Steven is saying, but to me he is genuinely one of my favorite singers of all time. I just love his tone of voice so much, and it was from the get go, when I first heard a PT song. Such a pleasant and new sounding voice in the "prog" scene I thought. Don't sell yourself short Steven, there are lots of singers that can do all these vocal gymnastics, but YOU have a sound that I think is pretty unique. I've never heard anyone say something nasty about your singing.
Steven was constantly interrupting during the conversation but the humour is epic.
La musica shoegaze tambien es una musica fantastica
Really digging the video after all this time! Except that I'm not hearing the audio in Dolby Atmos. C'mon Steven!
Gas sounds like i've one in ear in a pond and the other pointed up into the trees.
You do admire SW, but he can talk and go on !
Passengers was possibly the other experimental U2 album Steven was thinking of?
From the perspective of doing a side project yes, but somehow sounds more serious than ironic. I mean, songs like miss Sarajevo and blue room are closer to the mood of ATYCLB
I think the Wolfgang Voigt Gas quote is wanting to “bring the forest to the disco, or vice-versa”.
I’ve struggled to engage with this episode… I haven’t been a fan of any of these artists but I will listen and rewatch.
Funny how Steven Wilson has not listened to Standing On the Shoulder of Giants by Oasis and he worked with Mark Feltham and Paul Stacey on To The Bone (specifically the title track sounds a lot like 2000s Oasis)
White Pony by Deftones was an amazing album that year. Surprised they didn't discuss it.
You guys touch on this a little bit, but I think the comparison of U2 vs Radiohead should really focus on U2 in 1991 and Radiohead in 2000. U2 in 2000 is a band that shifted back to their traditional rock sound after spending the entire 90's experimenting. They were the biggest rock band in the 80's, too. In the 90's wanted to still be that big world dominating band but with a 180 approach. And they pulled it off. Don't forget Original Soundtracks 1 from Passengers in 1995 - they were doing all kinds of experimental things. By Kid A, Radiohead had no interest in being massive rockstars anymore - they wanted to experiment and beyond and just disappear from the rock conversation. They went in the much safer direction, IMO, and really just became an art project.
An interesting perspective with a fair bit I agree with.
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How about y’all’s albums?
Hi guys, did Steven notice the similarity between Sea Song by Doves and Drown With Me? 😁
I think if Doves had a ‘front man’ with a very distinct voice it would distract from the whole. And possibly be annoying.
I had an affair with Radiohead, unfortunately we split up. Whilst I love their work, and saw them on the Bends and OK Computer tours, they stopped resonating with me. I’m all in favour of experimenting and I tip my hat to them for that, I really do. It’s just that I feel they lost their identity somehow. Whereas someone like Tangerine Dream did go off piste, they were always that band. Radiohead could release anything these days, and it sells she’d loads. And I feel that’s what they do sometimes, release anything. Great discussion.
Love Radiohead and in-depth Radiohead talk!
Oasis - most overrated 90's band
Doves - most underrated 90's band.
Coldplay - hated the direction they went in after Parachutes. A stunning debut.
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Good show, nice to have the visuals ... being Irish, I'll chime in too on the U2 piece - I'm not U2s biggest fan but I agree that the lads are way off the mark on this one, as stated in the other comments - this album is the last great U2 record ... oh, and the country is called Ireland, not "Southern Ireland" 😉
Surely it's The Republic Of Ireland? 🙂 I'm a quarter Irish (my grandmother was from County Mayo) and I had an Irish girlfriend for many years, so I've spent a fair bit of time in the country. That doesn't make me an expert on U2, of course.
Why is SW's mic so much louder than TB's? Revenge for the interruption editing?
just might be, lol
I love albums the fan base weren’t so keen on. Kid A…Heritage and others. Not Love Beech tho 😂
Video... how about that!
Not the debut album from Broadcast.
So linear. This made me laugh.[42:26] Good Chemistry between the the two talkers analyzing the different albums from the bands they chose.
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The Warning??????????
Didn't they make a bunch more of these?
Where are they?
This is the first video episode of it, but there’s a good amount of audio only ones on the podcast feed
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Thanks. Where can I find it?
@@sidnew2739I listened to them on Spotify. They can be found on other streaming services too I belive. Probably best to check on the old search engine.
spotify, apple podcasts
I think it’s unfair to compare U2 to Radiohead. Both bands were at total different stages of their careers. U2 had 10 years on Radiohead. They had moved with the times album on album throughout their career. They had their experimental stage Radiohead had just entered that stage.
All that you can’t leave behind reinvented u2 to a younger generation. I’m 38 and this was the album that got me into the band. It was a huge album.
Radiohead were inspired by the path U2 had gone on. Kid a was Radioheads Zooropa.
I agree with you, though I think by 2000 it's possible that - as Radiohead had been inspired by U2 (which, like you, I feel they undoubtedly had been) - U2 were taking some influence from Radiohead. That said, U2 always had an anthemic 'Pop' sensibility largely absent from Radiohead. We didn't mean to belittle the massive achievements of All That You Can't Leave Behind (though my U2 favourites are Unforgettable Fire and Zooroopa).
@@bowness1I think the main reason for the stripped back all that you can’t leave behind was Pop being rejected in America. They also had a few stadium shows that didn’t sell out in the states, some with embarrassing attendances. America didn’t really get Pop or Popmart.
Maybe abit different for me as all that you can’t leave behind was my first U2 album. I was born in 1986 so I was never old enough to appreciate their music until all that you can’t leave behind. Where as you lived through all those classic albums. When I discovered them I was looking back instead of living in the moment. Achtung Baby being my favourite
The other u2 album in the 90’s was passengers. It was with Brian Eno and wasn’t released under the U2 banner. Very experimental, wasn’t for me if I’m honest
I love Radiohead as well. Seen them live a few times. Not a fan of their last few albums though. Last album I really liked was probably in rainbows.
@@christianreynolds9252 I think that's a decent point about All That You Can't Leave Behind being a reaction to the negative response to (and relative commercial failure of) Pop.
I hope they cover some hip hop. Great pod
Opinions are like arseholes and they two are a right pair of opinions!
Maybe cover your own material ,,Or similar??
Jeez, I think I saw Tim smile. Also, Steven, unpolitically correct or politically incorrect, what do you think?
Can you not put the album cover on the two shot please… I’m trying to check out Steven’s studio…
Steven has such insightful observations about music but when he finished up by critiquing Bono's lyrics by pulling out one line from one song and made a general criticism about his lyric writing from that, well I do find that a bit annoying. I guess what it says to me is that Steven Wilson does not pay attention to lyrics because it is 'lyric' writing that is Bono's greatest strength. I would argue that Bono is one of the greatest lyric writers in the Rock genre over the past 50 years.
That's my sentiment as well. The lyrics "you make me feel like I could fly" etc. are fitting for a song called "Elevation". Bono has penned countless brilliant song lyrics. It's a silly overgeneralization to label him as bad with lyrics just because of one song.
Thats a good point you made about how it's just as important for a lyric to fit the feel of a song, as it is for a lyric to read like poetry been read from a book. Can think of a hundred and one of Bon Scotts lyrics that fit this criteria down to a 'T'. Thanks@@morbidromanceband
38:46 You are being unfair to U2. The careerist move was made with All That You Can't Leave Behind. That's their real "pop" record. Their journey into electronic music during the 90's was real. Zooropa is not a particularly dancey record. It doesn't really fit into the dance world, and certainly didn't fit into the alt rock world. Their love of electronic music was real. They even owned their own nightclub.
39:52 This is inaccurate. U2 always stated that they never had those Americana roots in their music, and that the Joshua Tree was their first step into exploring it. And so what if an Irish band does it? How is it any less genuine than many British bands of the 1960's owing a huge debt to Delta and Chicago blues?
I totally agree that it's as legitimate for U2 to experiment with Americana (and other genres) as it is for John Mayall (for example) to delve into Delta Blues. Artists from anywhere should feel free to plunder / personalise whatever feels right to them (Bowie and Prince were masters of this approach). I also accept that the band's eclectic enthusiasms were genuine. Personally, I liked the fact that the band played with possibilities and confounded expectations. I was basing my light hearted observations purely on a few half-remembered interviews with Bono I'd seen. Usually, they were clips on documentaries and typically (from what may be a flawed recollection on my part) he'd say how the subject of the documentary - Punk, Thin Lizzy, Clannad, Johnny Cash, Krautrock, Billy Mackenzie/Associates etc - was the biggest influence on U2.
There was a time I wandered away from popmusic. Until I discovered Radiohead. Their recordings have an incredible atmosphere. I hate U2. I prefer Madness.🙂