@@shagyhahn It's not smarter lol what I said has nothing to do with smarter. Lance got his ass kicked so many times. The Governor knew how to attack. The group didn't suffer with Lance because they got their community back right away.
@@TheRealRickGrimes the governor in fact did not know when to attack, both times he lost, in fact he killed half his own army. Secondly, as negan said, people are a resource. It makes sense for lance to work from the sidelines rather than head on like the governor
I agree with you. But, i also think the melody is like a kind of copy from The Night King theme, you know, Game of Thrones... (apologize for my english, i´m spanish). I think the tryed to do something similar. And, after all, i like more this version than the fabulous The Night King theme.
@@Leinan_Pacamara Pamela was a much bigger villain I think in the comics right? I think for the show they chose to use Lance as the villain like they did with Pamela in the comics. Because in the show Pamela doesn’t do much and doesn’t even know what’s going on and what Lance did I think😂
@@jemoder196 The Commenwealth arc wasn't that big in the comics, you can't really compare it to the show because here we just have way more content overall
@Sxcred jones same here! Out of all of the villains, he’s definitely the most classiest and sophisticated, always looks sharp as hell in those nice suits😎
My prediction is that the Survivors will use this to their advantage. The Commonwealth will rebuild and improve the communities they took over, only for the Survivors to take it back.
@@GhostyMist you're right. They might use it to their advantage instead. Once their homes were fixed & put together as Rick's group first came to Alexandria. They will rise again. Lance have no idea what our group, Alexandrians, Hilltops & Oceanside's are capable of. Esp Alexandrians. They have been through much. Been terrorized/attacked by many different groups. Even once controlled by a group twice/thrice larger than them. But they managed to overthrow The Saviors & gained victory.
@Toasty yeap you're right. But don't forget The Saviors were also able to get out & surround Rick & his group was bc of Eugene too. If not, Rick's group plan of trapping The Saviors with hundreds of zombies inside the Sanctuary & making them surrender would of been a success. And Negan would already loss. Eugene played an important role for both group.
Back when the Saviors were around Alexandria had the firepower and enough fighters to go up against the Saviors. with the Commonwealth Kingdom had fallen long ago and both Hilltop and Alexandria were severely crippled. Even when saying this the amount of manpower that the Commonwealth currently has is way more significant than what Negan and the Saviors had, If the Saviors or Alexandria would've fought against the Commonwealth while they were in their prime I believe the Commonwealth would've been able to defeat them but with a price
A lot of people give this part of twd crap because it’s not like the old show. It isn’t meant to be, we are literally in a community with 50000 people, not on the road running from cannibals and people with eyepatches
from the smaller amount of source material related to lance that we got in the comics, they’re really going all out with his character in the show, and i love it
@@LSHSrandomness the character has been so good to the point where he is my second favorite villain in the whole show, right behind Negan, the actor has been killing it! The stand out of season 11 so far imo
The twist at the end shocked me. Brings me Game of Thrones Vibes when the Boltons took Winterfell. The soundtrack was spot on incredible! Very fitting in showcasing Lance's victory.
Gotta say. Season 11 really REALLY upped its game. I haven’t thought about good ole Rick this entire season. Great storytelling, and the music backs it and amplified the atmosphere.
Ik ppl who watched the show as it came out dropped off bcos they were getting annoyed with writer’s decisions, but I watched all 11 seasons back-to-back, and the show is AMAZING. S10 was amazing (although a little slow at the end cos of the Covid episodes), and yes s11 was also really good. Had many amazing scenes.
Honestly yeah, Season 11 almost lost me halfway through but I had to stick around and glad I did. I loved how different season 11 was and how different the challenge they faced was.
@@iSkippler I've wanted to learn electric guitar for years now, thinking of taking the plunge this summer once I've finished the fall semester of uni. I want to learn this on electric guitar, I think it can sound absolutely mental on that amazing instrument.
They really outdid themselves in all aspects this season. Everyone are doing incredible jobs in their roles, the music is outstanding. Respect to everyone apart of the show and hope they blow us away in the end!
I love the feeling of our group losing. How the heck do you fight an enemy that has thousands of soliders?. Can't wait to see how our group defeats lance. He's such a good villain massive change from the comics
@@babbel-0511 exactly, there's no directly fighting them like they did with the saviors. Not to mention they could use our group in commonwealth as leverage
@@RowdyHumanity its also not the same as the saviours anyway, it doesnt seem like lance wants half of their stuff in exchange for protection, he wants all of their stuff, and their people to "colonize" them with forced protection. It also may be the case that lance wants these communities to use against Pamela, not to prove her wrong
Lance's backstory sounds like itd be interesting, he sounded like he and the Milton's went way back. He kinda reminds me of a combination of the Governor/Simon/Gregory all in one person.
Lance is so unique compared to previous antagonists like the Governor, Negan or Alpha. A completely different type and level of antagonist. It's not even a question of whether he can conquer the protagonists' locations... that was never really an issue... he can do it in the blink of an eye. However, at the same time, he is bound by rules through Pamela and the oversight of Commonwealth citizens.... and the protagonists must defeat him from within his own group, exploiting those same rules. It's so new and unique. Amazing character, amazing arc (after the reaper nonsense is done) and amazing actor.
He was such a great character in 11A and 11B, I think they did him so dirty in the last few episodes. Doesn't change how great of a character he was though.
@@connerpog the actor who played the governor was David Morrissey. Lance Hornsby is played by Josh Hamilton the fact you think they are the same person is honestly stupid.
This really set off the whole "it's over" vibe, judging how the commonwealth was conquring every community in a second because of how big they were. these guys were Saviors & the Governer but a thousand times smarter & Powerfuller judging how small they started as a group into resurecting a government & Military forces.
One of the best themes of this episode! On point and fitting. *What The Saviours (Negan's people), Whispers and other villain groups couldn't conquer (Alexandria, Hilltop, and Oceanside), the Commonwealth Army did in 1 day.*
I posted a comment 10 months ago when i didnt watch the show, now that i have finished it around 2 months ago, that was crazy, thank you guys for telling me to watch it, it changed me, best show ever.
Excellent musical 🎶 score!! I love the dramatic slow motion with the music! It has to me an sound of something I’ve heard before but can’t pinpoint it..
This composition of sounds perfectly portrays the feeling of hopelessness against a more powerful enemy… the ending, when things get more intense, the subtle hope slipping through the cracks, and gaining the ability to fight back… fucking marvelous.
What an amazing, somber, gut wrenching piece of cinima with music that is priceless and amazingly appropriate. Who is the composer ? “This is pure genius people !”
His theme sounds a lot like Anakin’s Dark Deeds from Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith. A very similar tone and key pattern is played halfway through which sounds like this theme a lot.
Watched it again and looked at scene planning resistance inside Commonwealth, where Connie mention bigger story of missing people list with names/codes/coordinates... Hmm. I wonder if that could be a set-up for CRM connection. As many have said, it's just ridiculous to think that Commonwealth doesn't know about CRM and vice versa at this point in apocalypse. From what we established and Beyond, it seems possible that there could be a similar alliance relationship happening where maybe Commonwealth was supplying CRM with research subjects, possibly those people who were causing trouble or not going along with the Commonwealth as they were expected to. And maybe having that knowledge, Lance was using Sebastian to use some of those listed people for other purposes like retrieving money and stuff. Wonder If Connie the journalist, along with the others assisting in this Commonwealth investigation (including Max who's stolen files), could be the lead in to that big ending with a broader universe CRM connection.
bro , at this time i REALLY want to watch the walking dead , ive never seen it , its just , theres so many seasons , so much time that i dont have , aswell as Game of thrones , havnt watched it
Yeah this last season had a handful of plot holes like Oceanside. They only mattered in the 2nd part, and they completely forgot about them in the first part. All together Oceanside was the community they showed once a season because they honestly don't matter that much to the story.
@@lloydlejack-official so you see a politician with a scar on the side of his face and likes to flip a coin to decide fate and joker is the batman villain you think of?
This guy is Governor but smarter and less strong physically.
No the Governor actually gets his hands dirty. This guy doesn't, he needs people to get what he wants
@@TheRealRickGrimes which is why he used the word smarter
@@shagyhahn It's not smarter lol what I said has nothing to do with smarter. Lance got his ass kicked so many times. The Governor knew how to attack. The group didn't suffer with Lance because they got their community back right away.
@@TheRealRickGrimes the governor in fact did not know when to attack, both times he lost, in fact he killed half his own army. Secondly, as negan said, people are a resource. It makes sense for lance to work from the sidelines rather than head on like the governor
@@tfcbioshock So we gonna forget the Governor didn't lose when he attacked in 3x10?
This is one of the best pieces of music in the entire TWD series.
I agree.
And it was just beaten by the music in the final shot of the whole show
I agree with you. But, i also think the melody is like a kind of copy from The Night King theme, you know, Game of Thrones... (apologize for my english, i´m spanish). I think the tryed to do something similar. And, after all, i like more this version than the fabulous The Night King theme.
@@padremerryn666 I never watched Game of Thrones, so....yo no se.
@@padremerryn666 They are very different both in feel and pacing to me?
This theme deserves more recognition
Yeah it does
the walking dead hasnt had me fucked up like that for years
Bruh fax
It was insane, the last bit where this song pops off and you see the commonwealth just taking shit was such an intense moment.
God Lance is so much better in the show than he was in the comics...
Massive upgrade Huh?
He really didn’t do much in the comics
@@bigboi0402 Thats why hes Much Better in the Show LMAO
@@Leinan_Pacamara Pamela was a much bigger villain I think in the comics right? I think for the show they chose to use Lance as the villain like they did with Pamela in the comics. Because in the show Pamela doesn’t do much and doesn’t even know what’s going on and what Lance did I think😂
@@jemoder196 The Commenwealth arc wasn't that big in the comics, you can't really compare it to the show because here we just have way more content overall
Lance has definitely hit my top 5 TWD villains
@Sxcred jones same here! Out of all of the villains, he’s definitely the most classiest and sophisticated, always looks sharp as hell in those nice suits😎
@@henrylemoine5951 No cap nobody can change my mind on my top 5 he is in it regardless
@@sxcredjones4034 agree but I go one step further he’s actually my favourite thus far
@@Metal_Dude He’s my second favorite right behind Negan, I hope both of them have an interaction in part 3!
He gives me sane Governor vibes
What Saviours couldn't do, Commonwealth did.
My prediction is that the Survivors will use this to their advantage. The Commonwealth will rebuild and improve the communities they took over, only for the Survivors to take it back.
@@GhostyMist you're right. They might use it to their advantage instead. Once their homes were fixed & put together as Rick's group first came to Alexandria. They will rise again. Lance have no idea what our group, Alexandrians, Hilltops & Oceanside's are capable of. Esp Alexandrians. They have been through much. Been terrorized/attacked by many different groups. Even once controlled by a group twice/thrice larger than them. But they managed to overthrow The Saviors & gained victory.
@Toasty yeap you're right. But don't forget The Saviors were also able to get out & surround Rick & his group was bc of Eugene too. If not, Rick's group plan of trapping The Saviors with hundreds of zombies inside the Sanctuary & making them surrender would of been a success. And Negan would already loss. Eugene played an important role for both group.
Back when the Saviors were around Alexandria had the firepower and enough fighters to go up against the Saviors. with the Commonwealth Kingdom had fallen long ago and both Hilltop and Alexandria were severely crippled. Even when saying this the amount of manpower that the Commonwealth currently has is way more significant than what Negan and the Saviors had, If the Saviors or Alexandria would've fought against the Commonwealth while they were in their prime I believe the Commonwealth would've been able to defeat them but with a price
Its not that they couldn't, they didn't want to. Yet.
A lot of people give this part of twd crap because it’s not like the old show. It isn’t meant to be, we are literally in a community with 50000 people, not on the road running from cannibals and people with eyepatches
I agree I don’t know why people can’t understand that
@@calebpritchard4668 They legit wasted this character.
from the smaller amount of source material related to lance that we got in the comics, they’re really going all out with his character in the show, and i love it
I think they quickly realized Josh Hamilton was fucking killing it as Lance and beefed up his role!
@@LSHSrandomness the character has been so good to the point where he is my second favorite villain in the whole show, right behind Negan, the actor has been killing it! The stand out of season 11 so far imo
he's pretty much the main villain of the commonwealth arc
@@TheAireaidLord not in the comics!
@@LSHSrandomness i meant in the show
the best ending of the entire show... see how alexandria falls and hilltops uff! with the music! i love it
But this is not the ending right? There still are more episodes to come
@@darianraul1520 yeee! 8 More episodes coming!
Agreed
Easily The Godfather of all TWD soundtracks! Not gonna lie, I’m so not ready for how the show is gonna end!
i was trying to see if anyone else noticed how similar it is to the godfather theme
Thats what was saying
Pensei que só eu estava louco
And here we are brother
I already Miss it😭
The twist at the end shocked me. Brings me Game of Thrones Vibes when the Boltons took Winterfell. The soundtrack was spot on incredible! Very fitting in showcasing Lance's victory.
YES SAME
And also the long night
@@psycomantis440 yeah the long night especially
Don't even dare to compare the most boring TV show like GoT to the most amazing TV Show The Walking Dead
@@danieldraxler5700 🤣
Gotta say. Season 11 really REALLY upped its game. I haven’t thought about good ole Rick this entire season. Great storytelling, and the music backs it and amplified the atmosphere.
I thought Rick was going to show up again before the show ended
@@JanelleJames still got 8 episodes to go. I feel the series finale will be huge.
I actually like s9 s10 and s11 I think they are fine without rick
Ik ppl who watched the show as it came out dropped off bcos they were getting annoyed with writer’s decisions, but I watched all 11 seasons back-to-back, and the show is AMAZING. S10 was amazing (although a little slow at the end cos of the Covid episodes), and yes s11 was also really good. Had many amazing scenes.
Honestly yeah, Season 11 almost lost me halfway through but I had to stick around and glad I did. I loved how different season 11 was and how different the challenge they faced was.
This might be my favorite song from the whole show
Mine too. Gonna sound it out on my piano today
@@JanelleJames I did that too! Haha. I learned the beginning at least
@@iSkippler I've wanted to learn electric guitar for years now, thinking of taking the plunge this summer once I've finished the fall semester of uni. I want to learn this on electric guitar, I think it can sound absolutely mental on that amazing instrument.
They really outdid themselves in all aspects this season. Everyone are doing incredible jobs in their roles, the music is outstanding. Respect to everyone apart of the show and hope they blow us away in the end!
Especially this second third of the season
I love the feeling of our group losing. How the heck do you fight an enemy that has thousands of soliders?. Can't wait to see how our group defeats lance. He's such a good villain massive change from the comics
The only way to win is to start a war from within.
@@babbel-0511 exactly, there's no directly fighting them like they did with the saviors. Not to mention they could use our group in commonwealth as leverage
@@RowdyHumanity its also not the same as the saviours anyway, it doesnt seem like lance wants half of their stuff in exchange for protection, he wants all of their stuff, and their people to "colonize" them with forced protection. It also may be the case that lance wants these communities to use against Pamela, not to prove her wrong
CRM compared to Commonwealth is nothing
@@gusevicius CRM has 400,000 people
Season 11’s soundtrack was phenomenal.
“Now we take it all”
Amazing episode and the ending was crazy
Lance's backstory sounds like itd be interesting, he sounded like he and the Milton's went way back. He kinda reminds me of a combination of the Governor/Simon/Gregory all in one person.
Lance was the son of Pamela's chaffeur from before the fall
The music in the final season was nothing short of beautiful.
The music was always amazing but my god, the final season definitely upped the ante.
This music and the use of slow motion made the ending of 11X16 stay with the viewer. Thank you for posting this.
Lance is so unique compared to previous antagonists like the Governor, Negan or Alpha. A completely different type and level of antagonist. It's not even a question of whether he can conquer the protagonists' locations... that was never really an issue... he can do it in the blink of an eye. However, at the same time, he is bound by rules through Pamela and the oversight of Commonwealth citizens.... and the protagonists must defeat him from within his own group, exploiting those same rules. It's so new and unique. Amazing character, amazing arc (after the reaper nonsense is done) and amazing actor.
Its the same actor that played governor.
@@connerpogno it isnt lmao
He was such a great character in 11A and 11B, I think they did him so dirty in the last few episodes. Doesn't change how great of a character he was though.
@@connerpog the actor who played the governor was David Morrissey. Lance Hornsby is played by Josh Hamilton the fact you think they are the same person is honestly stupid.
And then they just killed him in the most anticlimactic way possible.
Lance is like two- face and joker put together. I feel in the next part of the season he’s gone try ti take over all off commonwealth
The song is fucking fire lol i had to look for it so i can loop it 24/7
hope there will be a spotify release so i can add this to my playlist of best soundtracks
Really glad that gimple isn't the show runner now and the show has gotten wayyyy more cinemotograhpy
Rip Oceanside
Underrated character made season 11 watchable to me.
This really set off the whole "it's over" vibe, judging how the commonwealth was conquring every community in a second because of how big they were. these guys were Saviors & the Governer but a thousand times smarter & Powerfuller judging how small they started as a group into resurecting a government & Military forces.
They're really going all out for the final season😭
In this chapter lance reminded me a lot of the governor
Lance should definitely have been the main villain of season 11. He was far better than Pamela.
sounds a bit like "The Day Will Come" at the beginning
I don’t agree
This score is so epic!!
Probably my favorite piece of music twd has ever done, Lance is fucking awesome!!!
One of the best themes of this episode! On point and fitting. *What The Saviours (Negan's people), Whispers and other villain groups couldn't conquer (Alexandria, Hilltop, and Oceanside), the Commonwealth Army did in 1 day.*
Because they are too many !
Been watching TWD forever and this is the best sound track by a mile
Lance’s villain theme
This OST!!!!!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Such a great piece of music, really fits the scene
Heads: total banger
Tails: complete masterpiece
I posted a comment 10 months ago when i didnt watch the show, now that i have finished it around 2 months ago, that was crazy, thank you guys for telling me to watch it, it changed me, best show ever.
Nah he crazy af but this music is everything. Wow!
Excellent musical 🎶 score!! I love the dramatic slow motion with the music! It has to me an sound of something I’ve heard before but can’t pinpoint it..
Lance reminds me of Season 3 The Governor and a bit of Harvel Dent
This ost is awesome! 🔥
I LOVE THIS SOUNDTRACK
This gives me GOT soundtrack vibes…. Probably my favourite piece from the whole of TWD.
This composition of sounds perfectly portrays the feeling of hopelessness against a more powerful enemy… the ending, when things get more intense, the subtle hope slipping through the cracks, and gaining the ability to fight back… fucking marvelous.
What an amazing, somber, gut wrenching piece of cinima with music that is priceless and amazingly appropriate.
Who is the composer ? “This is pure genius people !”
The composer is Bear McCreary. He's in since season 1. He's amazing.
Sounds like a variation of Perfect Sense by Roger Waters to me.
SAD END
It's not the end (:
I like this guy it's like a Governor
Loved the ending so damn much and music but sad about leah 😢
she could’ve had a second chance, but daryl already warned her about coming for maggie or his people
@@samuel-mx3oq well ya ik my top 3 favs were 1 judith 2 Daryl then leah being 3rd ima miss her alot
@Toasty yes leah was great
She had it coming
How Hershel pushes negan away in this scene was so good !
This song is fucking amazing
HOW can I find it on Spotify please ??? This music is so good
This third of the season has had some of the best music in a while, can anyone make sheet music of this?
Great ending music!
Excute Order 66
Yes...Lord Sidius
Lance reminds me of the guy who drives a creepy white van they definitely got the creepy vibe perfect for Lance
He really pulled a two face on ocean side ahahah
after 12 years... the show is over... damn...
Nearly a year ago!? Already!?
His theme sounds a lot like Anakin’s Dark Deeds from Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith. A very similar tone and key pattern is played halfway through which sounds like this theme a lot.
The Saul Goodman of TWD
Now the group has to sacrifice destroying their home to get it back
Governor+Twoface
This sounds like a deviation from Simon's theme.
I remember this Bro😢😢 Some months ago
If you pay attention, oceanside is using pools as their crops
twd la mejor maldita serie del mundo
I want this on Spotify!😊
+1
@@Huseyinyvz hüseyin yavuz baba nasıl karşıma çıktın ya
@@HexStrain oha lan 8 ay sonra görüyorum , çok iyi şarkı ondandır
aynen baya ii@@Huseyinyvz
Hopefully the commonwealth wins. Feels like season 1 to me again, the lingering reality of no hope that we saw with rick wandering.
Amo esta melodía....
The music gives me GOT vibes
Sounds like something you would hear in dead island
Watched it again and looked at scene planning resistance inside Commonwealth, where Connie mention bigger story of missing people list with names/codes/coordinates... Hmm. I wonder if that could be a set-up for CRM connection. As many have said, it's just ridiculous to think that Commonwealth doesn't know about CRM and vice versa at this point in apocalypse. From what we established and Beyond, it seems possible that there could be a similar alliance relationship happening where maybe Commonwealth was supplying CRM with research subjects, possibly those people who were causing trouble or not going along with the Commonwealth as they were expected to. And maybe having that knowledge, Lance was using Sebastian to use some of those listed people for other purposes like retrieving money and stuff. Wonder If Connie the journalist, along with the others assisting in this Commonwealth investigation (including Max who's stolen files), could be the lead in to that big ending with a broader universe CRM connection.
Now we take it all
I want to hear it again in one of the sequels
i love the show
bro , at this time i REALLY want to watch the walking dead , ive never seen it , its just , theres so many seasons , so much time that i dont have , aswell as Game of thrones , havnt watched it
@Facundo Amalfitano Ok , first i got to catch up on all the other movies , like all the marvel movies , i havnt even seen endgame
i will watch it soon
@Facundo Amalfitano Btw , were can i watch it , it is not on netflix , but i know a few "illegal" sites , so ok
God damn soundtrack of the last 3 seasons goes so hard!
This piece has hints that remind me of The Godfather
If Lance doesn't wipe Oceanside I'll be so damn mad
yeah, nobody cares about oceanside anyways
my exact thoughts as well, im hoping this final chunk of episodes will be the most brutal of the show. NO MERCY FOR MAIN CHARACTERS!
I hate Oceanside and maggie
@@Ak907Calbomberwell lance was put down pretty quick afterwards, and oceanside is dead like u wanted lol
An excellent piece for some Barovian D&D action a la Curse of Strahd!
Lance is now a Tyrant
This was played in twd s8 ep 9
Which part.
I really don't think so, prove it?
@@pokka626 sorry my bad its s8 ep 11 search up hilltop finds out carl is dead and listen to it
@@GrimesTWD456. oh yeah it is indeed similar but not the same and not nearly as good as this one
@@pokka626 its like slower version
Lance is right, period.
Lancé siempre lleva ropa diferente siempre XD
This is so fucking clinic...
I hate that the last episode left it uncertain what happened to Oceanside.
Yeah this last season had a handful of plot holes like Oceanside. They only mattered in the 2nd part, and they completely forgot about them in the first part. All together Oceanside was the community they showed once a season because they honestly don't matter that much to the story.
It was confirmed on Twitter or X that they survived....
I just can't wait for Lance to get an eye injury and comPLETELY lose his shit...
Just like *another* fan-favorite villain...
Rip Oceanside 😔
idk why, but some parts reminds me of Call me Joker (aka the Blood Smile), from Joker's soundtrack
so you see a politician with a scar on the side of his face and likes to flip a coin to decide fate and joker is the batman villain you think of?
@@killercream1933 Not lance, the song is what reminded me of that .I'm aware of his similarities to two face
@@lloydlejack-official so you see a politician with a scar on the side of his face and likes to flip a coin to decide fate and joker is the batman villain you think of?
Could someone put this on Spotify
Did anybody notice how they sampled Carl’s death theme
That wasn't the theme but okay
I hope they won't stop producing it but sadly google says that they stopped it. Hormsby was better when he wasn't as agressive.
this defeat...
LMAO IMAGINE THIS WAS YHE SERIES FINALE
id be so disappointed
@@finns3.7 same here. Sammmeee here
@@finns3.7 nah, It would be very cool As it isn't your traditional ending cause we know that there is still going to have rick movies
@@iamfriendly6483 spin-offs