Responding to Michael Lofton vis-à-vis Bishop Strickland
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These are my (further) thoughts on the Bishop Strickland removal, in response to Michael Lofton's rebuttal of my earlier thoughts, and how I think good Catholics should understand this history we are living through in the Catholic Church.
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Just to clarify my comments regarding the Dodgers controversy...
I said Bishop Strickland was the only one who stood there in protest among the people. Notice I specifically spoke about his physical presence. Yes, others did speak up, but they did so remotely. My analogy was with Christ's suffering on the cross. Most apostles hid. They may have protested from hiding, but they weren't willing to suffer in person at the cross. Lay people were protesting in person and their shepherds were not among them. I have a lot of respect for Bishop Barron and others who spoke out and I'm not trying to criticize them, but I am trying to help people understand what it would be like to be a lay person standing up for your faith and putting your physical life in the way of those who hate and persecute the Church and the only shepherd among them was Strickland. That's why he won their admiration - and many others along with it.
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only a sitting pope can judge another pope not a bishop priest or layman if they tried to they will excommunicated immediately to judge the pope is schism its a mortal sin and its protestantism and Jesus promised hell will never corrupt a sitting pope forever so we catholics believe Jesus words not a bishop or layperson to say pope teaches heresy is a mortal sin schism They assert that no one can judge the pope (Proposition 19) and that "the Roman church has never erred; nor will it err to all eternity, the Scripture bearing witness" (Proposition 22). Catechism says about you who judges the pope its clear in
2482 "A lie consists in speaking a falsehood with the intention of deceiving." The Lord denounces lying as the work of the devil: "You are of your father the devil, . . . there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies."luke 10:16.
Absolutely right about the Dodger Stadium travesty and the one Good Shepherd who stepped forward....
@josephfossa8 You may be in error for much of what you say. The organization of the Roman church has historically had other corrupt popes. As the "human beings" that we are -- we DO make mistakes. All of us. Including popes. Good popes or bad popes. Whether by accident or malicious intent.
Francis Bergoglio just may be the manifestation of the "schism" that you fear, dear heart.
The Vatican could disappear from the face of the earth, and Christianity will never cease.
GOD is Eternal, Jesus Christ has redeemed the world, and each of us is born to know, love, and serve God -- by following in the footsteps of Our Lord and Savior.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Do not kill, steal, lie, or cheat.
Basically, just be GOOD.
AND it is not being "good" to humor those who act in insane, sexually disordered, or demonic ways! (Such as those self-proclaimed "Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence." Or those clerics who allow and promote all manner of sacrilege within the walls of Catholic churches.)
To encourage and protect grievous sinfulness within the Church or "out in society" and call it "inclusiveness" is ERROR.
Read holy scripture, as you do. But put God first. Bring love and peace to all men. PRAY for Discernment in all things, and know that God's blessings are always present in the world. Pray.
“…but they weren’t willing to suffer in person at the cross.”
Twice prior to Our Lord’s suffering on the cross Peter protested. The first time; Our Lord and Savior said, “Get behind me Satan.” The second time, Our Lord and Savior said, “Put your sword into its sheath.” Sounds more like they were willing; but under orders by Our Lord and Savior not to intervene. Perhaps Bishop Emeritus Strickland needs to learn how to obey.
A few months back, Cincinnati Right to Life hosted a rosary rally. We were praying for an amendment to be passed so parents could keep rights over their children and abortion on demand could be outlawed.
Plenty of faithful Catholics and other Christians showed up.
Bishop Strickland flew up and lead the rosary. He did a beautiful job. He not only announced each mystery, he provided meaningful meditation with each.
Who knows where the Cincinnati bishop was. But bishop Strickland came and it was wonderful
Weird, you would think the local Prelate would be present. I guess him and Arch Bishop Gomez were busy...
you hit the target with the last line...JS was a mirror to other Bishops true image..
Archbishop Schnur has been, and always will be, at the lines of life in Cincinnati. Enough with the calumny.
In the Orthodox Church, bishops can't enter another bishop's diocese without that bishop's permission. That was the case from the very earliest Church councils. If that's the case for you guys as well, wouldn't that at least imply that the local bishop approved, and that maybe he couldn't make it himself?
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Was the original poster wrong then to say the local prelate was not present?
I’m losing trust in all media perspectives. This was the most edifying & charitable response along with Fr. Ripperger’s and Fr. Gerald Murray’s. Thank you and prayers for our Church.
I think it is best for us to be skeptical of ALL media perspectives.
Murray also opposes the Pope, terrible.
@@matthewschmidt5069How so?
@bullyboy131 He signed a document accusing the Pope of heresy. This action is explicitly condemned by the 8th ecumenical council.
@@matthewschmidt5069Source please. Who else signed this document?
This was MUCH needed. Lofton gets carried away “correcting” everyone and does so with an air of superiority that makes me roll my eyes 😂
YUP SMUG
Yep and Blue Collar Catholic is following in his footsteps
Wonderfully articulated with clarity, charity and humility. God bless from Ireland 🇮🇪
I think I will definitely be a regular listener now of this humble and smart and loving young Catholic. Young I say as I have six sons who may be one or two older than Brian but mosy about his age. God bless him!
Too much introduction!
@@villefere6968we will always be the island of Saints and Scholars, we will suffer a deserved chastisement and then return to Our Lord and blessed Mother, please pray for us 🙏❤️
Brian, as always, you show yourself to be a class act. I am continually impressed by your sincerity, goodwill, and thoughtfulness. Keep doing what you're doing. You are an asset to the church and to your Christian brothers.
True!!! 😊
True, again
I watched most of Lofton's video with an open heart, but about halfway through it was just too nauseating. He came across as very phony, trying to portray himself as charitable towards you but in reality was very condescending and gossipy. It was honestly hard to take. He could have put the information out there with a very different tone. I really appreciate your authenticity and sincerity of heart.
Michael Lofton is Dana Carvey's church lady character from SNL.
I generally find Lofton arrogant
@@ViscountDI He slows down and emphasizes some phrases, thinking that the change of tone and speed of his speech will somehow strengthen his argument. It doesn't. He just looks dumb and emphatic.
@@St.Julian-of-Norwichhe silenced his critics and mutes criticism in his comment section. He is disingenuous and not a good person.
This Lofton is full of hate it drips off of him. His favorite expression...'hold his feet to the fire...' I get the feeling he means it literally.
Im a new listener Brian helped me to heal, suffer well , and i admit i really needed to hear this, pray for me and i will pray for you
🙏🏼
St. Benedict went through this as Rome fell. It was the motivation for western monastics. We should use this as inspiration.
Are you comparing St benedict to mr lofton or ? I dont understand
@@0311catholic No. Lofton is the problem.
@@Piercetheveilnow ah thanks bro
If anyone in the Church claims to want the best for it, they would not shy away from criticism or attack the critics. Thank you for being so honest and humble. God bless and God speed ye warriors of God.
Would you consider the first 15 minutes of Lofton's response? He gives all sources and is very charitable. I'm sure you will be edified brother.
@@idankpoaugustine1983sadly Lofton’s arguments are gaslighting slanderous sophistry. Brian Holdsworth here made the best rational argument (ie assume all that is true) and still won by prima facie facts of the situation…. You will know them by the fruits they bear!
@@idankpoaugustine1983 Personally, I requested that youtube stop recommending Lofton’s videos to me about 3 months ago - every time I tried to watch one, all I saw was a man filled with pride and arrogance… a convert who converted under the Papacy of Pope Francis who holds an extreme bias in his relatively new Catholic Faith. It would be a large stretch for me to actually go and look his videos up again, but if you’re being honest, and if I’m being honest, then perhaps I need to consider the first 15 minutes as you say - but I will reiterate, I shut out Lofton’s Voice long before the Bishop Strickland drama was on the radar. Michael Lofton’s voice is VERY hard to take seriously. In my view, his head knowledge requires a great deal of heart and charity to be inserted into his dialogue.
@@bthemedia Brian himself says he's giving an emotional response. Repent of your own calumny brother please.
@@Prohortico thank you brother for the benefit of the doubt. God bless.
I feel a sense of calmness after watching this video Bryan. You gave expression to how I’ve been feeling but couldn’t articulate. It felt measured and appropriate as well. I hope Michael can also see how this is a good example of the position sons and daughters of the church can take. We aren’t just intellectual persons, we also have emotions and should feel free to express them to our spiritual fathers, especially Pope Francis.
3 years I’ve been a Catholic. I fell in love with Jesus’ church after 30 years as an evangelical born again Christian. Your channel is one of the first I subscribed to but not the last one. I listened to Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon but they confuse me. I do not like SSPX or eastern orthodoxy. I took everyone’s advice and studied the early church fathers and what I got out of all this that’s been happening over the last year?is to follow Father Ripperger’s advice and focusing on becoming holy and pray for everyone. I am a soldier for Christ and will be built up by Jesus, not the church. The church has been evil many times throughout history and Satan is using this situation to divide us and a Laity that is called to be holy has to NOT ALLOW themselves to be divided. My background as an evangelical Protestant? I went through so many church divisions and they never end good, and we as laity of the Catholic Church have to trust in the Holy Spirit now for us to build back the faith and strength of the church. If we act like emotional angry children publicly over this?, and put our trust in catholic news and UA-cam influencers over Jesus?, We are going to not succeed. I personally have been praying for discernment and waiting on the Lord and not getting caught up in all the drama. I am proud and happy to be Catholic and trust that God will take care of the Laity from the corruption 🙏♥️🙏 I am absolutely disgusted about what’s happening but I will never leave the church.
I'm praying for you sister. God bless you. I would recommend Michael Lofton's response as he clarifies a lot and gives all his sources.
@@idankpoaugustine1983 I have watched all of his videos as well. But when the day is done I don’t answer to them and I can’t say who is right and who is wrong
@@suzieqgm643 of course sister. I just find Lofton better because the sources are a lot more transparent so you're able to make a clearer judgment in my opinion. I don't think we as laymen are obligated to opine on who is right but do our duties to God and Church.
@@idankpoaugustine1983 I disagree. Michael Lofton won't debate most of the people he criticizes for a reason. He calls everyone who is critical of Pope Francis "schismatic radical traditionalists". His conclusions about Dr. Marshall and Bishop Strickland are FALSE. He's a Liberal Catholic masquerading as a conservative Catholic (which is what he said he considers himself to be). I believe fans of Michael Lofton are, like Michael, terrified of the OBVIOUS issues brewing in the church and they'd rather hear "everything is okay and there are just misunderstandings". Traditional Catholics and the SSPX's criticisms of the ambiguity of the pope, the heresy in the clergy, the democratizing of the Holy hierarchy, and the disgraceful practices in the new NO mass are 100% valid!! Period! No matter how much he and his followers wan't to believe otherwise.
Your last line proves you are a true Catholic. Thank you.
Brian, so glad youre taking this with grace. Lofton isnt worth losing your joy over.
Fr Ripperger has been making some good points about these situations - God may be using this to make us more holy, if times are too good we get weak, hard times make good men, and hard enough times make saints.
I am sad what happened to Strickland, and others who got cancelled, but our focus should be on God, we should be working on our interior lives and detaching ourselves from "the stuff" going on in the world.
With that being said, Lofton needs to show some charity and not act the way he does, blocking people and not letting themselves defend themselves is low, constantly attacking other catholics is low, not showing compassion to the confused catholics and addressing them gracefully is low. Its just low.
God Bless Brian, keeps up the good work
also on a side note - i met up with Rob and Anthony in Steubenville, those guys are the real deal, they are the same in real life as they are on their stream, just dudes being dudes. They do a great show.
Disagree. Lofton does an excellent job defending the faith and only attacking those that attack or the church publicly
I do suggest with all charity that you watch just the first 15 minutes of Lofton's response linked in this video and you'll see that he does extend charity here. God bless, saying a Hail Mary for you.
I haven’t seen Lofton blocking or attacking anyone at all. If you actually watch his video in response to Brian’s original take, it was very charitable.m and simply attempted to honestly point out some facts that Brian did not seem to be aware of. In all honestly I kind of feel like Brian is painting himself as a martyr over this when the situation doesn’t call for it.
@@Seliz463 this is very true brother. 💜✝️🙏
Thank you. I am very much grieving Bishop Strickland's firing. He is an amazing faithful servant of our Lord.
Why lol? God knows what he's doing
Why on earth are you sad .. come on man
If you think this video was him simmering the fire of this issue then you all have serious issues in discerning things. Brian just advocated for excommunication more often. Astounding that he wants more division rather than unity.
An amazing servant wouldn’t do the things he has done
@@ajmeier8114 Vaccines and Latin Mass??? 😂😂😂 Big crimes! Good thing every homosexual predator like McGarrick gets your full mercy.
I don't even know how I found your channel: I'm a protestant. But I have enjoyed your discussions and the patience and humanity you handle this issues with. May you continue to seek Christ first and grow to love Him more.
Come home ☺️
Michael Lofton is not capable of hearing critics. I already bumped at it when I tried to explain him my concerns about why the Doctrine of the Church cannot change, and I did it in a charitable way (at least by my standarts and intentions), and he was like: "Oh, you are citing people like Tim Gordon who have no authority, this dialogue is ended!". Just behaves like an a-hole. God bless him for changing personality.
Also, I think that's a psychological problem. I am not acquainted with Michael personally, but there seems to be the battle for defending the once-personally-lost Church whatever happens. True Christian shouldn't live by these simple worldly standards like "always defend the Pope" or "always be charitable" or whatevs. True Christian should live by God only. And in different situations, God wants us to behave differently. And sometimes He tests us with challenging decisions. So, I, personally, don't see any improperness in even calling Pope and the most of higher clergy the heretics. It became too obvious, and to deny it either intellectually or publicly would both be a lie. In the first case, to oneself, and in the latter, to your brethren.
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie, but when you allude to the idea that it’s not improper to call the pope a heretic, I think that is over the line. Perhaps that depends on whether you mean the pope is a heretic privately or a heretic in his public magisterium. The latter case is a major red flag, because to say so seriously casts doubt on the indefectibility of the church (just imagine a sitting pope binding your soul to an error in dogma), and to do so typically shows an evil suspicion regarding the Pope’s words, but I’m willing to understand if you think the pope privately holds to an error in doctrine since that’s happened before.
@@killianmiller6107 Francis is implicitly calling his predecessors heretics, so that dog don't hunt. If Francis is correct in saying that you're not supposed to attempt to get non-Christians to convert to the faith, that would mean Jesus is a heretic too, for giving the Great Commission. Maybe Francis is planning to fire him too.
@ReasonandTheology Michael Lofton is condescending . Now he’s praising arrogant and confusing Fernandez. I asked him to explain me how a male trans can become a godmother and I’m still waiting for an answer.
Michael is a jerk when it comes commenting on his channel.
Brian, I'm with you. Praying for you and to be more catholics like you. God bless you and Holy Mother of God protect you✝️🙏😇
Very classy response, I am very impressed with how you handled yourself. I pray for you and for the things you do for the Catholic faith
I have lived in the Diocese Of Tyler during the whole of Bishop Strickland’s tenure. I have attended numerous liturgies, masses, conferences, and celebrations where the Bishop presided. I personally attest that his aura of holiness is unmistakable. That is the primary reason why , I suspect, the unholy oppose him. The unholy always despise the Holy. (Think of how Padre Pio was treated.) I have never experienced a consecration performed with such reverence as those performed by Bishop Strickland. I say “experienced” rather than “seen” because being present was always an unforgettable experience. There is a priest speaking against Bishop Strickland now who was unfortunately briefly assigned to my parish. He criticizes the Bishop for speaking against the Pope. Well…while he was Pastor he regularly lambasted Bishop Strickland , and he did it from the pulpit. So his criticism seems a little hypocritical. This priest’s lack of reverence was shocking. He was disgusted with people who wanted to receive the Eucharist kneeling and on the tongue. In fact, on his first day at my parish, he removed the kneelers from the church and from his sacristy. The Sacristan is my best friend and so I know this and I also saw it and saw her tears. This is the man that is criticizing Bishop Strickland!!! The faithfull are heartbroken in the Diocese of Tyler.
Thank you, Brian, for your wisdom and charity.
God bless you, Brian.
Like you, I’m a convert to the Catholic Church, since Christ the King Sunday 11/22/2015.
I want to Thank you for gently sharing your thoughts and insights.
I feel a peace of mind whenever I take the time to listen to your perspectives on things.
I’m very grateful for you.
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Michael is an idiot!
Very grateful for Brian’s comments as well… sums up my POV perfectly! I listened to Michael Lofton… had to unsubscribe from him. I know gaslighting and cynicism and illogical arguments when I hear them… such a tragedy he uses “reason” in his UA-cam channel name. 🤦♂️ praying for him, Brian, Bishop Strickland, the Pope and most especially the Church!
@@idankpoaugustine1983LOL I did listen to Michael… he just gaslights and throws slanderous arguments without basis of charity with regard to truth. He has abandoned all Reason sadly. Great tragedy. He loves the Pope more than the Catholic faith apparently… better to praise a heretical pope than call out heresy by a pope. 🙄 🙏
@@bthemedia my Lord and God save me. Despite disagreeing with you I have kept myself from any insults whereas you engage in the same slander that you accuse Michael of. God bless us brother.
@@bthemedia … praying with you.
Well said. You are a true Catholic Gentleman
As a Protestant “on the road to Emmaus”, this was an encouraging explanation. Thank you Brian for putting this up.
God bless your way! my Our Lord walk with you and lead you❤
"On the road to Emmaus"...
You mean LISTENING TO JESUS? (as the disciples on the road to Emmaus did in Luke 24).
Yep, keep listening to Jesus.
His sheep know his voice (John 10:27).
RUN from the traditions of men, whether they be Protestant or Catholic.
Take heed of the warnings of Jesus regarding the traditions of man in Mark chapter 7 in particular.
@@leenieledejo6849 Yes, run from any tradition other than the teachings of Jesus which have been passed down through apostolic succession by the Catholic Church. "Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours." 2 Thessalonians 2:15
Hang in there left fielder, story skies, but this boat is the best place to be.
Don't go to Rome, brother. At least get a copy of the book of Concord and read that before you consider swimming the Tiber. You need to know what you're getting into.
I pray for all Catholics trying to discern the justice of the situation here.
There is no justice here
@@vinnyfrancone3567 that is Satan speaking bitterness into your heart. There is always God’s justice whether we can see it easily or not.
There's power in prayer, there will be suffering but we know the way the story ends, christ is victorious ❤❤❤❤
By the grace of God, we each will have our “Redpilled” moment with the institutional church. Mine was in 2018.
Strickland was justly removed and he was given chances.
Our Catholic Church is going through her Passion but, she will reign Victorious in the End for her Resurrection will come after her Passion....
Man, comparing the comments on this video with the ones on Lofton's really tells me a lot about which side is behaving in a more Christian manner. His comment section is full of vitriol.
Yeah, I was also thinking about writing the same comment. On his channel, I can't help but sence that there is a great distaste or sometimes, straight hatred for people who prefer traditional mass. They are name called, mocked and what not. If you have to come up with an opinion about trads and read his comments, you'll definitely think trads are straight up anti-Church, anti-Catholic. I've even seen comments saying it's just Americans who feel privileged or whatnot, even in the comment section under the video in which he was "responding" to Me. Holdsworth, there was a comment about accusing him of Americanism and had good amount of likes. I was like, dude he's Canadian, way too much polite.
There’s quite a lot of people here calling Lofton’s name into question. I saw a few questioning his authority on church matters having been in and out of Catholic/Orthodox, even though he’s now firmly Catholic. Another said Lofton lacks common sense and common decency. Among several people here who think Brian is too generous for apologizing to Lofton, one of them even called him a snake who is just out to win arguments for his team. Perhaps if I look through Lofton’s video’s comments I’ll see the vitriol you refer to but you should humbly consider what goes on here too.
@@killianmiller6107Ctrl+c+ctrl+v.
Nice.
@@killianmiller6107 I wouldn't consider any of those things except the snake one to be "bitterly harsh or caustic language."
@@killianmiller6107 I just skimmed through the comments on both. For me, the top comments there have vitriol and the top comments here do not. Maybe comments are organized differently for you?
Thank you for being such a Christian gentleman, Brian. I have been watching this back and forth between two men I respect with great interest, and I have been greatly edified. You have set the bar high for the rest of us.
Thank you Brian, I think people are devastated I know I am I have had so much respect for Bishop Strickland and have been so proud of how he has defend our faith. So I think sMany of us are dealing with the devastation and asking what is going on how can this be happening?
Thank God for you, Brian! You are truly inspiring. I am absolutely rejoicing over the way that you have handled this. I feel your empathy, love,and truthfully bringing Christian brotherly care to Michael Lofton and all of us.
Awesome job, sir! ❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
Michael Lofton is a mean-spirited dude, don't even worry about him. Most of us watch him for one reason only. He is the designated Pope's advocate. So anytime there is a controversy we go to him to hear that side. It's like taking the bitter medicine. In order to understand things you unfortunately are forced to watch him. But trust me that most of us know he is a sarcastic rude person. He is hard to watch. You on the other hand brother are a good man. You are kind. You have charity. You are honest and you are a normal person. All of that to say ignore Michael Lofton moving forward because we come to you for sober, gentle, and charitable perspectives.
Brian, please take up Michael Lofton on his invite to be on his show. I'm sure the discussion would be fruitful. Please consider it. Thanks. God bless!
Lofton clearly doesn’t keep everyone at the same standard.
Thank you for the video Brian, it really is encouraging and brings a lot of light on the situation.
Thank you. I'm Orthodox so there are things that we disagree on, but I can always count on you to be charitable and measured. I used to think that about Michael Lofton but I've been worried about him lately.
For the sake of dialogue, we need stable, measured people on all sides.
Agreed, that's what Ive always liked about Brian, even when I disagreed with what he said, he was and is always calm and kind as he explains, as best as he can, the nature of his opinion or disagreement. The world needs more people to do likewise. May God bless him and his family
I've definitely had my disagreements with Lofton (he's quick to judge trads for starters), but yeah, these last 2 weeks he seems to be taking just a bit too much joy in defaming Bishop Strickland for my comfort. It's a little disturbing, actually. I run into a lot of people irl who are openly anti-Christian, and seeing a Catholic speak this way about another Catholic is off-putting.
God bless you brother.
@@katydidd6321This is ironic because Michael Lofton's main reason for going after trads so often is "What will the Protestants and Orthodox think from all this infighting about the Pope? How would anyone want to convert if they saw how Catholics are treating their leadership?" If I were still an outsider to the Church and was still inquiring on if the Catholics truly had the right understanding of Christ, I would find it much more convincing to see people honestly assessing the apparent shortcomings of the Vatican while still saying "No, this is still the Church, things are just weird right now under the current leadership, don't leave because of bad leaders", rather than the Lofton approach which comes across as "No, don't believe what you're seeing and hearing, the current leadership is totally fine, these are all distortions by schismatic traditionalist Catholics, lashing out over their precious liturgy being taken away. Do I attend the Novus Ordo myself? No, no, I'm a Byzantine Catholic, so I'm allowed to have pretty liturgy."
@@katydidd6321agreed, seeing Catholics like Strickland speak the way they do about Pope Francis is super off-putting
@@katydidd6321 hey brother, please do watch the first 15 minutes of Lofton's response and you'll see the sources and charity in his response. God bless you, I'm saying a Hail Mary for you.
The charity and nuance that you express in this video is admirable. I am a recent subscriber based on your interview on PWA. We are all on this journey of attempting to follow our Lord’s immaculate heart. Watching/listening to other Catholic men, helps to keep me on the correct path.
You really brought me back to my faith. I am very, very sure I and many others who watch share that sentiment, and so keep doing what you are doing, Brian, and we are praying for you!
I agree. Totally encouraging to stick with the Church, knowing that there are spokespeople who are loving and compassionate and see the Church as family.
I can't believe there are some amongst us who would wish to see ill-will toward Bishop Strickland... the man has been an ardent defender of our faith!
Strickland was fired (not xcommunicated;22:40) because, despite all the good things he may have done, he has done some things that are not acceptable for a bishop of the Church. It's crazy to read out in public the extreme things he said on 31 October 2023 on the conference in Rome. He then got the chance to resign himself, but it's clear a bishop that says this kind of stuff can't remain in position. So, he was fired. Rightly.
No. It’s not clear. Quite the contrary and you know it. No dialogue was permitted.
@@drewblack749 There doesn't have to be a dialogue. When you spread that kind of extremist views, it's over, you made clear you are not suitable to be bishop.
What about the German bishops extremist views? Why do they get a pass?
@@marcelbuurman201 so what exactly were those views and why hasn't the Holy See clarified why he was fired? Also, why haven't they given him a chance to clarify what he allegedly said? I don't think you even watched the video because you don't seem to be aware that even Martin Luther was given a hearing to clarify his position and he called the pope at the time the Anti-Christ. Pope Francis bypassed the standards of justice that he himself has affirmed.
You hit the nail right on the head!! Our Holy Father says all of this about accompaniment and mercy but shows non to people who hold opposing views to his. This is a very liberal way of operating with others who think differently
True. The left does this all the time
Yes, because hypocrisy is often integrated with their beliefs.
Watch strikland on world over where he says he has been told for several years to stop some things and he never did on purpose. He had many years of dialogue.
@@evannyakabuski him being told to cool it with a social media presence never said was “told for years” but the Synods documents say we need to be on social media where the youth is to engage with them. Again not consistent, the Synod Promotes work on social media but his particular work on social media is an issue. Again wildly inconsistent with who is disciplined.
@@markweakland1984 if a bishop is told to do something a refuses to do it, that is warrent for punishment. Strickland said "cool it", i doubt that was the language used, when you are questioning francis at the level he was. You can argue that some liberals should also be punished yes, but to claim strickland was not accompanied is false and presents the situation incorrectly. He also knew of other reasons he was to be removed before he received the 'list' im sure. He mentions problems with brother bishops, perhaps one instance was the LA dogders were that bishop had a prayer rally but strickland went into another teritory and held hisnown event. Who knows there could have been other events. By his own admission in june the visitation told him basically the same list of reasons. He admits he did not also folow the regulations on the TLM. That shows forethought and foreknowledge. Plus he was not laized or removed from the title bishop. This is a chance for dialogue. If he repents and recants im sure he can get a local spot as bishop again. Its not like they excommunicated him as Brain's examples are about. Lets see if Strickland is open to dialogue here is his chance.
I have been following Brain for a while, and my thoughts of him have only gotten better over time.
God bless you and Bishop Strickland, my brother in Lord Jesus. As an Eastern Orthodox Christian, it saddens me to my core what has happened and what is happening to my Roman Catholic Christian brothers and sisters. But, all is for the greater glory of God, and for His plan for the final reconciliation of mankind to Himself - Father, Son and Holy Spirit. We need ALWAYS to trust Him and to love Him - He SURELY knows what he is doing.
❤ and we pray, and pray, and pray❤
Well said. Even if Strickland is guilty of something, the seeming lack of charity or trial of any sort to bp Strickland while others are either ignored or given many chances is most troubling to me. Even if there is good reason to dismiss him, this is terrible optics.
Terrible optics for sure. I can sympathise with your feeling certainly. Still, he shares a letter that calls the Pope the Antichrist, a usurper of Peter's Chair, a man who espouses "the words of the Devil as those of the Holy Spirit". I would advise looking at the first 15 minutes of Lofton's response and you'll see this as well as his charity towards Brian who he gives chances to speak with when he enters the chat. I'm saying a Hail Mary for you brother.
@@idankpoaugustine1983 yep already watched it. Watched Brian's original then loftons response and then Brian's response (and the avoiding Babylon video). Loftons video doesn't change my opinion on the situation much. But I appreciate your prayers.
@@jess96154 great brother. I definitely agree that it's terrible optics, wasn't trying to change your opinion of course. God bless.
In all honesty, some of the “terrible optics” is due to American political and cultural expectations about democracy, and a deep anti-authority attitude. It’s very Protestant in nature, and I’ve seen it deep into a lot of Catholics. The church is NOT a democracy. It’s organized along military lines. Strickland is not owed a hearing. I believe the Magisterium certainly gave him due process in accordance with canon law, but many American Catholics don’t understand that canon law is not US civil law. And that’s a good thing. I really think is American Catholics need to work on the ways we allow American legal and political culture to shape our expectations and assessments of the church, rather than the other way around.
@@Seliz463 it is mostly American issues tbh haha. Hopefully the upcoming Christ the King festival will remind us that Christ is King and not any political affiliation. Are you doing the novena? I'd advise trying it with the Amen app, it's beautiful. I'll send a link if you want.
If you disagree with Lofton in his comments section he will tell you you've sinned and you need to go to confession. He's a real class act.
I asked him if he is wrong will he repent and apologize? his answer was I have done that before, DO YOU?
No he will tell you need to go to confession if you bear false witness.
@@vaderkurt7848 Loftonsplaining. Cool but I said what I said. I've seen it multiple times. The upvotes on this post is evidence I'm not the only one that sees it.
@bottomtext7700 Just because more people agree with you does not mean you are correct.
Now, please prove your comment.
@@vaderkurt7848A.) Keep telling yourself that. B.) No.
This isn't intended to stoke your ego, Brian. But, of all the Catholic UA-camrs I listen to, you hold my highest respect. In part, because we agree on so much (and that's saying something because I tend to be a bit disagreeable and critical of everyone I listen to). And, in large part because of your displays of true charity and humility. Your channel has affirmed me in my faith on multiple occasions. Keep up the good work, sir.
You are a good man. God bless you & your family.
Pretty sure Saint Nicholas smacked a follower of Arius at Nicaea. Now, he was defrocked for doing so, but the Lord made sure that was corrected pretty quickly. Even one of the greatest of saints made a mistake while standing up for Christ’s church.
Pretty sure that's a legend, it didnt happen. Open to correction tho
The same was said of St Louis deMontfort. He’d knock your socks off for taking the Lord’s name in vain.
No it happened. Nobody talks about it, as he is known in the world as Santa claus
Thank you for this, Brian. I have listened to Lofton a few times and always felt angry and upset after. Your explanation and the way you so kindly and charitably laid out the statements made me feel much better about Bishop Strickland, whom I did feel was treated unfairly, at the least. Thank you for such a thoughtful program today.
Thats curious, I feel exactly the opposite when I see Loftons material, to see those crisp and clear explanations according to the Magisterium, amongst a sea of cunfussion when few seem to care about the importance and fundamental respect as catholics due to the Pope, and many seem to care more about siding to a very controversial bishop that in someway allows slandering and false accusation to the Pope.
@@animgreat2719 you must have access to his private videos then, because I've never seen a video of his that fit that description. The ones I saw all followed the same basic formula. (1) Come up with some ridiculous interpretation of Francis' latest problematic statement/action. (2) Throw the CCC definition of rash judgement and detraction on the screen. (3) State that if you don't believe the most charitable possible interpretation of Francis' words, you're committing rash judgement, and if you state that that you don't believe that interpretation, you're committing detraction. (4) Say that Francis could have communicated better, so ML can claim he isn't just cheerleading him. (5) Tell any critics in the comments they have to go to confession (?!) and then ban them.
@@adrianmizen5070 that’s an odd thing to say, reading clear statements that Francis or archbishop Fernandez have made doesn’t seem like a crazy interpretation to me!
@@animgreat2719 I love how Lofton defends the Church and goes to actual quotes and documents as he seeks to be fair and accurate. He does not “pile on” Pope Francis, which has become too easy to do. He has made ME more reflective on these matters. However, I do feel like he can be too free with handing out his own judgement to others. I wish he would occasionally change his format to have different people on his show to engage in discussions on these matters. I think being a lone wolf can lead to bad things. I love both Brian and Michael. They have different gifts. I hope in humility they both see and truly appreciate the gifts of the other in service of He who is The Way, The Truth, and The Life. They both can learn - then build each other up, leading to a greater flourishing of the gospel. This is my prayer.
@@adrianmizen5070 good day brother. God bless you firstly, I hope you're well. I personally don't think that this is a fair understanding of Michael Lofton's content. Please watch just the first 15 minutes of his response linked in this video and you'll see him addressing all the sources as well as engaging Brian charitably. God bless again, praying for you genuinely.
Wonderful and charitable response to Lofton. I saw his name pop up in comments on other posts, so I watched his reaction to Bishop Strickland’s removal. It was very disturbing to hear him claim that he had knowledge of the removal a month and a half before the action was taken. How on earth can Pope Francis, Cardinal Pierre, and Bishops Sullivan and Kicanas be so uncharitable to a brother bishop. I understand that leaks occur and people like Lofton have their insiders, but if he knew that far in advance, they should all be reprimanded by the College of Cardinals.
Lofton predicted he would be let go. Not that he had some insider information on the outcome before it happened
Too much friendly fire, he should focus on teaching.
And stay focused, Brian, we need more men like you.
Helen Keller could have seen that Strickland was going to be removed. Several trad channels were predicting it too.
I agree. The bishops have been leaking too much and making too many public statements. The entire dubia mess is creating more confusion. It reads like the catechism, and it's not something for general audiences. Now we have Cardinals and the Vatican leaking back and forth. It's gross. They need to keep these things to themselves.
@@josephbeausigne2132 I can only use his words to support my claim.
“I’ve been hinting at it saying that it’s likely to happen. The reason is I already knew a month and a half ago that Francis had made this decision. I just wasn’t in a position to come out, and actually say that.’
Please tell me which part of this statement, made at the beginning of his post earlier this week, talks about a prediction. “I knew” sounds much more certain than “I had been predicting.”
Man...this was beautiful.
Kind, Gracious and Humble response. Loved it!
Lofton needs to learn from this example of virtue.
Not really. Watched both responses, even Lofton's 3 hours livestream. So much wrong with Brian's video. Even the fact he pulled up the document Lofton signed and pretended like it was something ground breaking, but as it turns out, Lofton was the first one to expose himself, years ago and has openly expressed his regret about that
PS just find the Pints with Aquinas episode with Lofton. My understanding of what he said may be only partial, but his statements are right there on the program. My point in all these words is that the loudest critic is not always the person most gifted with understanding or consistency in regard to obedience to the Church. Your words were amazingly compassionate and clear, Brian .
I want to like Pints with Aquinas but I can't get past what comes off as a disrespectful attitude toward the church. The guests, however, are more interesting. Never saw Lofton, I don't think.
PWA had kid gloves on for most of that interview, but there was one hilarious sequence. ML did his spiel claiming that Pachamama is really called Our Lady of the Amazon and is just a representation of Mary, not an idol, so the rad trads were wrong to use the term Pachamama for it. Then the interviewer reminded him that Francis himself called the thing "Pachamama" during the ceremony, and Lofton paused for a second before saying that Francis was just being pastoral and using the same name the locals did. The guy doesn't know what he's saying from one moment to the next. If you're going to be successful as a shill you should have a good memory.
@@brandywineblue. PWA is very charitable to the church. Matt has grievances with the church but many of us do, he doesn’t rail against them…. I mean do you not want any honesty from a host?
@@adrianmizen5070 Its weird that you’d lie about Michael pausing when asked about that, he didn’t miss a beat in his explanation. There are chapters in the pwa interview in question if folks want to see it for themselves, it’s right at the start of the chapter called Pachamama
@adrianmizen5070 interesting, my grandfather used to say, "Lies have feet."
I always took it to mean lies get away from you, and you can't keep track of them all.
Brian,you are real CLASS, my problem is no reason is given for the dismissal of Bishop Strickland, God Bless you and your family!!
It's way simpler than all this. The current pope has bishops and priests teaching heresies left and right, and hasn't removed them. On the other hand he removes a bishop who faithfully teaches the doctrine of the Church, who has a diocese flourishing with vocations and a flock inside the United States and abroad, who feels inspired by him and who loves him, and he's the one being removed from his ministry. Something like this would have never happened during either Pope John Paul II or Pope Benedict XVI's pontificates.
Shameless slander. How does the Holy Father have priests and bishops teaching heresy left and right?
@@valuedCustomer2929 Fr James Martin is a woke heretic.
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@@valuedCustomer2929Have you read the news about the bishops recently?
Canon 1373. A person who publicly incites hatred or animosity against the Apostolic See or the Ordinary because of some act of ecclesiastical office or duty, or who provokes disobedience against them, is to be punished by interdict or other just penalties.
Brian your previous video was heart spoken. It helped me. The heart knows the heart🙏❤.
This is all I can say. I heard Bishop Strickland for the first time, I never knew the man before, but he seems sincere and has a loving heart. I saw him praying on his knees in a clip on Raymond Arroyo’s show; I don’t need any more. If he has faults, so does each of us. We are broken people and all we can do is keep focusing on Christ. This is our mission. Keep serving Christ with all our best gifts. Pray for all our Bishops.
Thank you for showing faith, reason and clarity. Bishop Steickland has been a loving and courageous Father to us all. God bless you!
For any C.S. Lewis readers here, if you have read the Cosmic Trilogy and specifically That Hideous Strength I must say that lately Pope Francis reminds me of a certain D.D. of a certain institute 🤣
All jokes aside, lets keep praying for our Pope and high hierarchy, they really need it.
And great video! A very clear, honest and humble message Mr. Holdsworth!
CS Lewis actually wasn't Catholic, he was Anglican.
I will say what I've urged a lot of the comment section to do and that is to watch the first 15 minutes of Lofton's response and you'll see that he is charitable and shows all his sources. God bless, saying a Hail Mary for you.
Literally what I was thinking the other day, especially with all the ambiguity
You're comparing the Roman Pontiff to a character possessed by demons?
Actually, Michael betrays himself with his emotion. He makes a low key presentation for Pope Francis’ lack of discipline on important matters and crucifies his critics.
8:14 Regarding the Dodgers, Bishop Barron (arguably more socially relevant than Strickland), had a short video specifically calling for a boycott of the Dodgers. So saying "it was only Strickland", simply isn't true, and it's things like this that erroneously elevate Strickland and mislead about the stands that other Bishops have made.
Excellent point
Note the pinned comment
I agree for the most part with Michael on this area, but I must say Brian did a wonderful job expressing himself and his position. Very classy and very raw and honest. Thank you, Brian, for not turning this into a petty and prideful UA-camr back and forth fight. God Bless you and your family, Brian!
Didn't a whole bunch of bishops speak out against the drag "nuns"? I thought I remembered Bishop Barron and others doing so...
Yeah.... just words... Speaking from a distance and much later.
We needed boots on the ground and the only one who had the testicular fortitude to stand up defend the Church with the troops was +Strickland
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Bishop Barron did, a week afterward. Which is weird, because he could have been there really easily, and yet he failed to show.
They did, but then backed down and Abp. Gomez even distanced himself from the prayer rally
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“On another occasion a group of pilgrims visiting him [Blessed Solanus Casey, Detroit, MI] had occasion to complain about some action of their local bishop. Solanus could not tolerate such criticism of the church whose representative the bishop was. He roundly scolded the complainers for their lack of love and respect for God's chosen minister."
Source: "Meet Solanus Casey" by Brother Leo Wollenwevee
I agree, Brian. But I'd like to say, it's not accurate to say, as many commentators do, that Bishop Strickland was 'alone' in speaking for the church as she was mocked by those fake "sisters" platformed by the Dodgers. Bishop Barron spoke up and called for a boycott. Sure, he didn't go there, but he wasn't silent. And we can't speak to his prior commitments/schedules. I feel sorry for the bishop because he did in fact, strongly complain.
2 Bishops out of how many US Bishops? Pathetic.
I also give Bishop Barron a lot of credit. He is one of the more clear and faithful commentators on the scene.
So much sense…so much compassion. You are a treasure to our Church, Brain. Thank you. ❤🙏🏻✨
Thank you Brian, we are living in very strange times with this Pontificate.
Well I have to disagree with you Brian. Even if someone hasn’t been following this “drama” I think they should watch this. It was so wholesome and loving and how we should all deal with struggles within this body that is the church.
Even if the Bishop had malice in all three examples that Lofton proposes, they stil do not raise to the level of veing removed from his see. Its all about the way the Pope feels about this bishop. Thats it. He is an abuser of his office
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You said "authoritarian" and I was confirmed "woke" (an idealogy that has no place in the Church---where their version of "inclusivity" is a LIE. The Holy mother church is no place for outright lies.)
This vid was so 💯 authentically charitable, ML could learn A LOT from these 28 mins. 👏 🙏 📿
Brian, this is what I needed it to hear🙏🙏
Thank you for guiding our confused thoughts about our leaders ! T you open my thoughts to be more trusting in God and His loving mercy♥️🙏
You're too generous but you're right. God bless you, Brian.
Very level headed and charitable response.
Silence emboldens the enemies of Christ Jesus our Lord, our Blessed Mother, and authentic Christians. Bishop Strickland didn't hide, and I for one, stand with him and applaud his witness. I wish Canadian Catholic Bishops would publicly stand up against the attacks against our faith
Thank you Brian🙏 We do need to know we aren't crazy... ignoring the 'elephant' in the room is not charitable.
I am now ready to move on, we must let God be God. As members of our Catholic family, we keep our eyes fixed on Our Lord. The rougher the waters, the more critical that becomes. 🙏🌹
I really hope Michael responds in humility. I haven’t ever seen that, but one can hope.
This comment seems slanderous in itself
@@animgreat2719 Just like ML you do not know what the words you use actually mean
@@animgreat2719 he doesn’t tend to give charitable readings of people he disagrees with.
@@Mr.Anglo1095 No, he bans comments he disagrees with.
It is always good to hear your discussion on current Catholic news, but it's even better to listen to the actual man who speaks for himself. Bishop Strickland spoke openly on many videos too
Very well said, Brian!
If you weren’t already aware, Strickland had an interview with EWTN yesterday where he shared some of the reasons he was removed. Most notable to me was the bishop’s refusal to uphold traditionis custodes and restrict the Latin mass in his diocese. I believe the bishop had already been privately and publicly warned to correct course… I remember reading or hearing something about it over the summer.
While the pope does have the authority for such changes and enforcement, it never seemed prudent to restrict TLM as he did. It has always felt harsh and cold, uncharitable, and divisive. I personally attend a very reverent Novis Ordo, but would never demand the body of Christ in its entirety do so as well. I have also attended problematic Novis Ordo parishes that fall utterly short and have not been corrected. Ultimately the heart of the matter is still traditionis custodes. THAT is where the holy father failed to listen, and now Francis is making it clear that deaf ears will still be obeyed.
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I’m losing trust in all media perspectives. This was the most edifying & charitable response along with Fr. Ripperger’s and Fr. Gerald Murray’s. Thank you and prayers for our Church.
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Lofton is a shnook. I have no respect for his lies, complicity, and blatant modernism. He takes it upon himself to cover up the crimes of his antichrist father.
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@katielockwood1751
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A few months back, Cincinnati Right to Life hosted a rosary rally. We were praying for an amendment to be passed so parents could keep rights over their children and abortion on demand could be outlawed.
Plenty of faithful Catholics and other Christians showed up.
Bishop Strickland flew up and lead the rosary. He did a beautiful job. He not only announced each mystery, he provided meaningful meditation with each.
Who knows where the Cincinnati bishop was. But bishop Strickland came and it was wonderful
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@nateskinner97
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I pray for all Catholics trying to discern the justice of the situation here.
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@TheAuntMar-USA
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God bless you, Brian.
Like you, I’m a convert to the Catholic Church, since Christ the King Sunday 11/22/2015.
I want to Thank you for gently sharing your thoughts and insights.
I feel a peace of mind whenever I take the time to listen to your perspectives on things.
I’m very grateful for you.
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@joshuaroach590
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Brian, as always, you show yourself to be a class act. I am continually impressed by your sincerity, goodwill, and thoughtfulness. Keep doing what you're doing. You are an asset to the church and to your Christian brothers.
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You really brought me back to my faith. I am very, very sure I and many others who watch share that sentiment, and so keep doing what you are doing, Brian, and we are praying for you!
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@yvonnestyer7197
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Thank God for you, Brian! You are truly inspiring. I am absolutely rejoicing over the way that you have handled this. I feel your empathy, love,and truthfully bringing Christian brotherly care to Michael Lofton and all of us.
Awesome job, sir! ❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
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@NeuKrofta
56 minutes ago
If anyone in the Church claims to want the best for it, they would not shy away from criticism or attack the critics. Thank you for being so honest and humble. God bless and God speed ye warriors of God.
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@jasonhinz4474
27 minutes ago
The charity and nuance that you express in this video is admirable. I am a recent subscriber based on your interview on PWA. We are all on this journey of attempting to follow our Lord’s immaculate heart. Watching/listening to other Catholic men, helps to keep me on the correct path.
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@marywoolley3329
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Wonderfully articulated with clarity, charity and humility. God bless from Ireland 🇮🇪
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@Piercetheveilnow
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St. Benedict went through this as Rome fell. It was the motivation for western monastics. We should use this as inspiration.
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@JosePerez-is6nn
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Im a new listener Brian helped me to heal, suffer well , and i admit i really needed to hear this, pray for me and i will pray for you
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Thank you. I am very much grieving Bishop Strickland's firing. He is an amazing faithful servant of our Lord.
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@shredder_s_0733
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Very well said, Brian!
If you weren’t already aware, Strickland had an interview with EWTN yesterday where he shared some of the reasons he was removed. Most notable to me was the bishop’s refusal to uphold traditionis custodes and restrict the Latin mass in his diocese. I believe the bishop had already been privately and publicly warned to correct course… I remember reading or hearing something about it over the summer.
While the pope does have the authority for such changes and enforcement, it never seemed prudent to restrict TLM as he did. It has always felt harsh and cold, uncharitable, and divisive. I personally attend a very reverent Novis Ordo, but would never demand the body of Christ in its entirety do so as well. I have also attended problematic Novis Ordo parishes that fall utterly short and have not been corrected. Ultimately the heart of the matter is still traditionis custodes. THAT is where the holy father failed to listen, and now Francis is making it clear that deaf ears will still be obeyed.
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The Pope would sooner have the authority to demand you to wash his dishes than to forbid or restrict the Roman Rite for favor of new rites of the sacraments. It's not only a matter of discipline- It's a matter of dogma ABOUT discipline:
"If any one shall say, that the received and approved rites of the Catholic Church, wont to be used in the solemn administration of the sacraments, may be condemned, or without sin omitted at pleasure by the ministers, or be changed by any pastor of the churches into other new ones; let him be anathema."
(Council of Trent, Session VII, Canon XIII).
Apparently 100 American dioceses did not implement TC as written including mine.
@@andy41417Exactly. This was a witch hunt because Strickland has the intestinal fortitude, which is driven by he love for Christ, to state Truths that 60 years ago were the norms of the Faith.
Can't help but admire, respect and like Brian. His love of the Catholic Church and the faith in spite of Francis is admirable.
I’ve lost trust in every institution in this country. The Lord is the Rock I stand on. I filter most things through the true/ not true filter❤ Again, I am on the same page. This controversy has been brewing for many years. The corruption is so blatant now. We believers must confront this lie. Jesus is depending on us👊😊🙌
To be the defender of our faith
We love you for the same reason we love Bp. Strickland.
Bless you. Bless Bishop Strickland. Bless God's people. Bless the Lord.
The level of restraint being displayed by the Faithful must surely be a sign of Grace. Keep doing what you're doing Brian. In hoc signo vinces +.
May God bless you Brian. That was an awesome video. Please keep up the good work.
You are more than generous to Lofton. I don’t share your high opinion of his commentary. I fear he lacks balance and common sense and common decency. Bp Strickland is in another league entirely. Thx for your message.
I totally agree. He's a big thumbs down.
You clearly have a good heart Brian. A contrite heart sees through the ugly and decietful. Bless you.
Lets all stand together as one, brothers and sisters in Christ, the only Saviour of the mankind. I just returned from a pilgrimage in Chiusi della Verna (Arezzo, Tuscany), where Saint Francis did receive the Stigmata (1224): let's pray the Saint of the saints so that we are given strength and courage in these challenging times. Christianity at "null cost" does not exist: if we realize it, we can be strong in the struggle for the Truth. Blessings from Italy 💚🤍❤️
I agree with your assessment and your heart felt thoughts and expressions of them. Bcoz truly when the Vatican has NOT yet given ANY reason or cited any canonical reasons for removing a bishop who though imperfect as a regular human being is, but who has tremendous love of Christ, His church and His flock, is outright cruel and smells rotten of a personal vendetta by some of the highest powers in the Vatican. So how does Michael Lofton and his followers or platform friends know to ridicule and criticize bishop Strickland so quickly? Do they have access or private revelation from the Vatican about the exact reasons? Even the letter Michael cites, is not what the Vatican has cited even once publicly as one of the many reasons they have on their list for their decision. So please Brian, do not apologize to Michael Lofton. He’s clearly shown himself to be a pope Francis spokesman. NO ONE judges pope Francis’ soul. Historically we have always judged a pope by their PUBLIC actions and words and actions and choices. Never their souls or hearts! So why can’t we judge this one the same way? After all, he’s surely given us (with the internet and fast and instant news available these days,) PLENTY of such public outright reasons to say he is the worst pope in most of our lifetime! At least during my lifetime. No, we could just ignore the likes of Michael Lofton. No more apologies needed. We’ve done enough. Thank you for all your good work Brian. We are living in the times when good is called evil and evil is called good. This pope’s words seldom match his actions. Heck, it doesn’t even match his own words of few years or months ago! How’s that for a pope that calls for “mercy”??? And God open the eyes of the likes of ML. The Church is now being eclipsed in a very clear manner, by the false shepherds of high powers and positions who have grasped the structure of the Church. This is permitted by Christ who is the Bridegroom and is the cleansing of His Bride, through these evils being exposed. As Jesus said, evil will always be there, but woe to the one through whom it comes. So we pray for our pope and for all those false shepherds around him and advising him or who knows even controlling him? We pray bcoz we acknowledge he IS the pope, albeit a terrible one. But then, we have got the leaders we deserve, and. THAT IS our chastisement. 🙏🏼
Many heartfelt reasons : 1. Bishop Joseph is not a homosexual like so many other bishops that bergoglio is defending. 2. He is a devout, humble and obedient Bishop. 3. He goes an extra mile to teach, promote and advocate the Rosary openly and boldly. 4. He is a hardcore truthful and traditional Catholic. 5. He is quite young compared to the old homo bishops and so has much time to convert and save souls and is busy with this mission. Many unknown reasons to me may be added.
@@MichElle-zc9tuYou are in violation of canons 1373 and 1404. Repent and go to confession!
@@G-MIP I will after Michael “Seraphim” Lofton leads the way.
6.Pope Francis has been clear about what an irritant American dissenters are to him, The sudden removal ofBp. Strickland without due process is a message to any other American Bishops to stay in line.
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@@MichElle-zc9tu does your salvation depend on Michael?
Brian doing what Brian does best. Another amazing video.
I’m so thankful for this channel
I was here for the whole arc, and the best point you made is “your arguments were better than the ones the people involved actually gave.”
There is a hypothetical case to be made, in the abstract, but is that really what is motivating those making the decisions? You have insight, that others have corroborated, that this is NOT the case. On the weight of evidence I would have to agree.
We concede you CAN make a valid argument to remove Bishop Strickland, we do not concede that those involved DID make a valid argument in coming to this decision.
God bless you and dear +Bhp Strickland. From Ireland ☘️
The most lingering effect of removing Strickland, for me, is that bad bishops are still in power while good ones are being summarily removed - with impunity. I'm forced to acknowledge that our Pope's moral compass is off, which is horrifying. If this continues it can only trickle down to good priests then good laity. Maybe I'm more worried than I should be?
Jesus established the Church knowing this would happen. Do you still worry?
Yes, I'm worried because the ultimate result is more souls lost. Heartbreaking.@@kimfleury
I'm sad too.
Just as it has seemed inconceivable that our wonderful Father Frank Pavone, "Champion for the Unborn" and untiring leader of countless "Walks for Life" was ALSO unjustly attacked by the evil forces within the current Catholic Church "administration."
Know that wicked politicians who call themselves "Catholic" and yet support MURDER of Children in their mothers' wombs are NOT "Catholic" and not CHRISTIANS of any kind. But they ARE the very ones who ally with, and INFLUENCE the "so called Catholic" influencers who conspire against GOOD Catholics. And they especially target the holiest of true Catholic clerics. And dear wonderful Pastors and Bishops like Archbishop Strickland.
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mtg5004 I am worried too. But we can only do what we can. And that is to PROMOTE the Truth, as we know it to be. Support the true Shepherds who guide their flock. And just be willing to bravely be like that child in the old fable - and say: "But the Emporer isn't wearing any clothes!" We may indeed be witness to the destruction of the Catholic Church from within, as well as from outside forces. Prayer is our greatest tool. Christianity will never die. God is always with us. Try to protect our traditional conservative church and our good faith. 🙏 ♥
May God bless all of you people and your families and your closest ones!🙏♥♥ AMEN!🙏☺
Thank you 🙏 for defending Catholic Church ⛪️ and Good Bishop Strickland ❤
Thank you. I'm glad you responded. You brought up many of the points, thoughts and questions I've had. And you did so charitably.
I truly appreciate your perspective. I've been troubled by comments in the media and some of the personalities behind those comments. But here you're logical yet charitable. If the desire is to have a synod or listening Church, then why not listen equally to all. Selectively here shows a choice, and action confirms. I pray for our Church and fellow Catholics that we may weather this storm and become the better for it.
And may our Heavenly Mother bless and protect all of you people and your families and your closest ones!🙏♥♥ AMEN!🙏☺
Archbishop Cordeleone of San Francisco spoke out quickly and loudly about the ugly display in Dodgers Stadium.
it seems to me in the last couple years michael lofton has become a controversy generator
Could be because he’s going against the mainstream American Catholic media that the Pope is at best very wrong at worst a heretic. If he toed their line he’d be bashing the Pope. His little channel causes a stir because he doesn’t. He actually brings out the primary sources & reads them online, the Pope’s writings & council documents.
Now that they are targeting the faithful, it is getting easier to see what charity is in people's hearts and how discerning they really are.... Brian, you are one of the people who stands out now and I find I like your perspective whereas Lofton offends me so much that I avoid him entirely.
Brian, thank you for this clarification. That makes a lot more sense explaining why even if Bishop Strickland is in the wrong, he deserves a chance to repent and/or share his concerns directly with Pope Francis. Not be booted and ignored. I agree, and if conversations between Pope Francis and Bishop Strickland occurred beforehand behind the scenes, we all should know. If not that is cold and not "synodal".
It's more than that, because it's not a private matter between the Pope and his Bishop. It's a public matter, and as such is to be addressed according to Canon Law, which means holding a trial where Bishop Strickland can defend himself from accusations.
I watched his video and I find you so much more authentic, gracious and charitable!
Very well done. Charitable and intelligent response.
George Costanza, once said: it's not a lie if you believe it. This is how I feel Lofton comes across. Maybe he should rename his channel: "Rationalizing Pope Francis." We all appreciate Lofton's content to a degree but more often than not his animas comes out with when he comes across those of us who are just trying to use common sense and may not have degrees in theology.
Best explanation for Lofton I’ve read yet.
Hey...some of us have advanced degrees in Theology and feel the same way. The biggest thing that comes across is Michael's lack of charity (unless it is towards the Pope) versus Brain's obvious charity.
@@TheDjcarter1966…Charity toward the Pope? Sounds like the MO of the Saints.
Speak for yourself
@@G-MIP The MO of the saints was to be charitable to everyone, not just the Pope.
Very balanced perspective. God bless you graciously.
I get this feeling that if Modernists walked off a cliff Lofton would follow. I've given up following him.
You are right, everybody that not slander , lie or attack the Pope is Modernist.