AUDIO-TECHNICA AT-LP140XP TURNTABLE REVIEW. LOOKING FOR DJ 'COOL' AT A LOWER THAN TECHNICS' PRICE?
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Audio-Technica AT-LP140XP Turntable Review
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As always, all typical DJ-stuff, like a strobe, a target light, speed and reverseknobs... get the blame for rendering a turntable non-audiophile. What is forgotten is that these things are way less contributing to any noise than a fast spinning motor on any belt-drive turntable - let alone a belt. This turntable is as usable as any other direct drive for audiophile listening if you upgrade the cartridge.
please don't bring factual information or an intelligent analysis to this situation - this is an audiophile forum, and that sort of thinking is unwelcome here :)
I have these decks and I'm so glad I didn't spend all the money on technics. Great strong turntables perfect for mixing, recommend for anyone.
I am very happy with my Audio Technica LP140XP. The turntable is recommended for DJs, but with a good cartridge it is better than many turntables for audiophiles. The reason is the direct drive, no belt drive turntable will satisfactorily reproduce low frequencies in the 32 Hz range (rumble).
I dont buy into all this features affect sound . Iv got a rega p2 and had multiple tables from big manufacturers over the years none of them come close to build or most importantly sound to my technics 1200 and my 1978 pioneer pl 518 direct drive ( with auto return).
I wouldn’t necessarily call the 140 up tight in sound quality. It, like all TTs, sounds different than other TTs, but it’s served me well as a listening table. Previously, I owned the 120, and I can say from personal experience that it’s worth the upgrade.
Just bought the 140, I'm currently staying with friend in Adelaide, I had ebay seller send it to ADL, $15 cheaper than regional Peterborough SA, I unboxed it and heard the motor is dead silent, I haven't yet auditioned it, the friend here was busy and I asked to borrow a phono ready amp & headphones. The Tech 1200 MK4 has a humming transformer giving it the BSR like hum crap between songs, I will replace the 100V laminate T/former with 240V toroid, will update on any results regarding buzz pickup in RE: 140 TT, hopefully improvement over 120 spec
Thank you for your review. I will tell you why I went for the 140: direct drive, s-shaped tonearm, ample capability of switching shell-mounted p&p carts from AT itself (and Ortofon), no preamp stage, no belt hassle, fully manual. All at a price that won't break the bank. Some people like to think they will upgrade their cart by themselves once they've bought a straight-tonearmed Rega or Pro-Ject. I'd rather avoid that. I'd keep wondering if I set up the cart correctly, even with the help of an expensive protractor. A considerable amount of manual/visual ability is needed to work those tiny screws, washers and screwdrivers. Not to mention going about the contacts. Been there, done that, not for me. I'll go with factory-fitted shells any day. Some people like to have to deal with obstructions, probably because they can afford buying tools in order to overcome them, or they're very gifted technicians, or both. Some might like the symbolic/identitarian dimension of that. Not a problem, but no thanks.
Sounds good and I hope you have a great time with your 140. It's a fine turntable.
Lights and pitchfader do not degrade sound quality, not in any technical or objectively tangible way, unless the turntable is really badly designed. The more likely reason people "hear" these sorts of things is because they can see these features and read the letters "dj" rather than "audiophile" on the box which in turn biases their perception of sound.
I have a 140 and the first thing I did out of the box and before watching this review, backed my tracking off to 2g. After a few months, I upgraded the cart to an Ortofon 2m Black. This really opened the sound stage in terms of size and imaging. I agree that this deck hits good with rock/metal/EDM and I also think it punches above it's weight class. If I had to pick between the entry level decks from U-Turn, Pro-Ject and Rega I would pick this every time.
The Andrew Robinson route, nice. I just ordered one with similar intentions using an audio technica VM760SLC. If I’m not happy I’ll actually get a Technics but this route seems like a great value.
@@hifipi3.14 I am now using this with an Ortofon 2m Bronze and the difference is amazing between that and the black. Opens up things even more.
@@hifipi3.14 I'm very curious as to the results. I currently have an Audio Technica VM95ML on my Denon DP-400 but would like to upgrade eventually to the VM760SLC if it's worth it...
@@cedricvanderhauwaert6527 Long story short I was really disappointed with the build quality of the LP140, all cheap plastic and it looks and feels like cheap plastic. So I returned that table without ever putting the better cartridge on. I went with the Technics SL-1500C and I'm very happy with that. I did upgrade the cartridge from the 2M Red to a Nagaoka MP-200 and loving this combination. So no comments on the 760SLC but I would highly recommend the MP-200 if you're looking for something with a smoother, fuller sound. If you want crazy detail I would imagine the AT is the way to go.
So I’ve seen a few of your videos where you recommended the Rega P1 a over other similarly priced decks in both performance and price. But, personally, I had a horrible experiences with Rega. First, in the US, the P1 is as low as $450, which bid $100 more then what you can find the AT140 at. Secondly, I owned 2 Rega P1 decks and I returned one and sold the other. My main issue with them was the motor noise. I reached out to Rega numerous times about the issue and they told me to let the motor settle. After 2 months the noise never went away and I replaced it with another P1, which also exhibited the same issue. I kept that one for a year and replaced it with a used Technics SL 23 w/ AT450 cartridge, which blows away the Rega at a 1/3 of the price. My wife, who couldn’t care less about audio quality, noticed a huge improvement. The Rega P1 is overrated IMO.
Having more options, like strobe and pitch control, doesn't mean that it will produce noise and is not for audiophiles. Not at all. But if you have the money, go for the more expensive DD turntables from Technics.
If you buy an entry-level belt-driven Pro-Ject or a Rega P1, you'd better be ready to live with W&F in the range of 0.17 to 0.27% ... which is not acceptable to me because it will get even worse over time. In comparison, direct drive DJ decks like the Reloop RP7000Mk2, the PLX-1000 or the LP140 (all of them are Hanpin so-called Super OEMs by the way) often offer a rock steady 0.01%. As for vibration, these DJ decks are built for club environments and are thus very rigid towards feedback, often with dead silent rubber-coated platters, tonearms with inline rubber coating and good absorption from the feet. So in the price range below or up to 500€, I personally would never buy a so-called "audiophile" entry-level turntable that probably even comes with a totally overrated Ortofon 2M Red cartridge.
Serious belt-driven models start with something like the Fluance RT-85. Acrylic platter, decent W&F, a decent 2M Blue. Or a Rega P3. These are different animals altogether. But in the lower range, a solid direct drive system with a decent cartridge is the way to go.
Yes guy. I agree.
So you would consider the Fluance RT-85 over this AT140?
@@PiecesofVinyl depends on what you expect from a deck. The AT-140 is more versatile with its adjustable VTA but the RT-85 might have the better tonearm. If I wanted a purist experience, I'd choose the RT-85 but overall, I gravitate towards direct drive 😬
Just ordered a 140 and one of the deciding factors was watching a DJ explain belt drives don’t hold speed. To me that seems pretty important for music. The audiophile tables fret over every little nuance but don’t accomplish a foundational thing like tempo properly.
@@hifipi3.14 if you venture into the higher price ranges, belt-driven turntables can become pretty stable indeed with inaudible W&F. But then, we're talking Rega Planar 3 and above which is a significant investment, given that such a deck also needs an appropriate cartridge. The 140 is a solid choice for the money (I own a Pioneer PLX-1000 myself which is pretty much identical) and leaves some budget for a decent cartridge and some stuff you'll need for record care. Good choice my man. 👍🏻
I bought one two days ago! Waiting on Fed Ex to bring it. I bought a vintage 1974 Fisher 8 track receiver with green backlight. Now I am looking for a vintage reel to reel, and cassette deck! My suitcase Crosley started this lol!You know my albums cost more.......Love your channel! cheers mate!
I own LP140 for a month now and pretty happy with it. At first, I was disappointed by the sound quality compared to my old TT (and it was Rega P1 :D) But then I've changed the mat from felt to cork and rubber, and changed the cartridge to Nagaoka MP110. Now it sounds awesome. So, if anyone is planning to buy this table, be prepared to spend some extra money, if you want it to sound truly enjoyable. Now I'm planning to buy Schiit Mani phono preamp to complete my set-up.
Hi Lock - glad you're happy with your 140 (and that's the main thing, of course). As you've found out, the 140 is eminently tweakable. You can have hours of fun with it, on that basis. :)
How's the antiskate and motor noise? Mine came faulty from factory and had to be flown from US all the way to Ecuador so I can't really go for the technical service.
when you are at the Mani phone stage pre amp, get some low resistance RCA cables , you will be a happy camper.
@@tuturuism Sound like the flaws of the classic LP120, AT has revised the anti-skate in all TT's 2017 onward
@@tuturuism I've recently bought one and the antiskating does work. Very solid machine with a great sound, obviously depending on the preamp, cartridge, and of course the set up and alignment.
I have used DJ turntables for “audiophile” purposes and have had no problems. The only thing I needed to do was use an appropriate cartridge.
what would a good cartridge be?
@@lil.yeastinfection Any cartridge that is intended to serve your purpose. Specifically, a heavy duty DJ cartridge may not the best for, so called, "critical listening."
@@bikdav for listening on the 140, do you have a recommended cartridge?
@@isaachansen7022 I would say the Ortofon 2M Red or one of the eclipticle stylus Audio- Technica cartridges.
You can easily use a Hifi needle from a VM95 cartridge, Audio Technica says they are compatible with the XP ones so nothing to adjust simply replace. I would recommend the red 95ML needle, but if that is too expensive (140 pounds) the green VM95 needle would be comparable to the 2M Red system. With the red 95ML needle it has a higher resolution + separation due to the MicroLinear pure diamond (not a bonded one as the 2M red or the VM95E) it will sound much more fine-grain and relaxed but still has more power than others in that class. Compared to the Rega, yes the Rega sounds relaxed as well but it is also a bit energyless (exhausted) on louder pop or very dynamic classical due to the delivered cartridge. Also, the high-pitched piano sound on the Technics 1500c or LP 140XP seems to be more stable compared to the Rega 1. But essentially you should hear that at the dealer to compare what fits your needs or favors.
Just placed an order for AT-LP140XP, along with ATN-VM95E stylus (to replace included ATN-XP3) since I'm planning to use it for "HiFi" purposes, rather than DJ ones.
Trekkie4 did you change it ? How was the sound and what about the tracking force setting
@@tur74d56 I did change it, yes. Sorry, I was never notified of your question. I actually tried several different cartridges and styli but the VM95E sounds and performs very good. Even better than stock VM95 cartridge, because the included XP3 body uses different coils, resulting with much higher output voltage. Definitely recommend!
How does xp3 sounds,is it enough for a non audiophile or is it really so bad
Lowering track force below what is recommended opens the door to mist racking, sibilance distortion and potential record wear. Proceed with caution. If you hear something nasty, put it back where it's intended to be.
this cartridge can track anywhere from 2g to 4g with no issue
I own this turntable. My old turntable died, and I needed to replace it. I have it paired with a Cambridge Audio amp, and my old seventies albums live again. I don't care about the DJ features. What I really wanted was a direct drive turntable. I'm pleased with it.
Do audiophiles stop breathing when listening to vinyl? Because the mere fact that they are there causes chest movement, which causes air movement and that creates noise. Which in itself masks subtle details. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Yes, yes we do. I haven't taken a breath in over 30 years. My face is permanently blue, I have to add, but my hi-fi experience is top notch.
Well...I ran into an issue with the 140xp. So I brought it back for a refund. Ordered myself a Pro-ject Debut Carbon Esprit SB DC. Swapped in the 2m Blue since I already had it. Loving it. The 140xp is cheaply made but with the right cartridge sound was pretty good. but I'm glad I made the switch.
Ortofon 2M BLue makes a HUGE difference over the xp3 even over the 2M Red. Even though it's a DJ deck; with the O 2M Blue, it's now a pretty darn good TT. I'll probably get a technics RGS0008 adjust for the new height and call it done & dusted.
Ortofon blue is a giant killer stylus....
Hi Nancy, just an idea have you thought about a RGS 0010 ,instead as these older mats are 6mm in thickness as apposed to 3mm . These RGS 0010 are getting harder to find should you see one bag it while you still can.
The cartridge on the LP140 is solid, get a microline replacement styles from Audio Technica. I have the Shibata version, VM95SH cartridge and it is excellent.
Same here the Shibata is the best for this turntable, sound is amazing
What's the upgrade stlylus for the stock cartridge on the 140?
I agree that one should change the supplied cartidge....like the Denon DL103r, AT -VM 95 ML. I cannot tell the difference from my Michell Gyrodec, costing ten times as much.
Got the Audio Technica 1240XP and it does Rock - Great for The Stones And Depeche Mode //. Thanks
That's a great review! I decided to buy the AT-LP140XP even if isn't an audiophile turntable, i'm not an audiophile so it fits me. I listen to plenty of Italo disco, pop, rock, so it'll fit perfectly, i also preffer the more powerful motor and the damped platter too, i will also enjoy the strobe and the cueing light!
Sounds like you are an audiophile to me :)
Thank you for the review but I have a complaint. All of you who review Dj turntables you compare them against Rega or Project TTs and you say that Rega or Project TTs are superior. But you ignore that a lot of people prefer DJ TTs because the headshell is removable and you can change any cartridge you want very easily. Have you ever thought that for many people the change of a cartridge is a nightmare on Rega or Progect TTs? I have a Thorens 160 and whenever I want to change the cartridge I have to go to friends or experienced salesmen. I can't do it myself. I plan to buy a DJ TT something like AT-LP140XP or Reloop RP4000 because you can buy headshells very cheap (normally around 20 euros) and change easily any cartridge you want. I searched for a second headshell for the Thorens 160 but the cost is 150-180 euros at Ebay so I prefer to buy a second new TT. Greetings.
Of course, it's not only DJ-type decks that feature removable headshells. The Jelco series of audiophile arms (www.jelco-ichikawa.co.jp/cn3/tonearms.html) provide the same feature, for example. There's even non-DJ turntables from Audo-Technica that do the same so I would disagree to some extent on that point. DJ-type decks, I believe, offer a cultural connection for many users, a look, a style and an attitude. But the DJ accessories plastered allover the chassis can provide high-frequency noise issues too. That said, if you're happy with the trade off then great - all that matters to me is that you enjoy your music. That's why I'm in the hi-fi game, for the music. Not the hardware.
Oh and the lack of DJ paraphernalia is one reason why AT's own LP5x is superior in sonic terms.
@@TheAudiophileMan Greetings. I really wonder if the Technics SL-1200GR will generate more audible noise than a similar priced Rega using the same phono cartridge, phono preamp etc.
Received my AT140 and just set it up. It’s a nice piece! ❤️
Has reverse button?
@@rustymixer2886 yes it does....
@@sclearance58 awesome thx is this better than lp120usb
@@rustymixer2886 yes! No preamp though! Make sure you fit the power cord in good , jiggle if it doesn’t come on.
@@sclearance58 ah ok cool its belt or direct?
Thank you! Great review. Had it down to the Fluance and AT, but when you through in Kraftwerk, I'm going for the AT with a Orofon Red.
I just bought the AT. Ordered the Ortofon Blue just to go up another level. Should get it in few days. When setting up the AT I setup tracking at 2 grams. And even with the xp3 cartridge sounds pretty good listening to my old rock albums.
Hello , I have the AT 1240 LP ( not to be confused with the 120 or 140) and even though it is the better DJ TT it can still be considered an audiophile TT with some improvements , I changed the cart to Ortofon super om40 ,upgraded the cables and I use an acrylic platter instead of cork or rubber or felt plus it sits on a slab of granite , quite happy with this TT .
Hi William - glad to hear that you'e enjoying your music.
I’m looking at upgrading at getting the 140X, but upgrading the cartridge to an Audio Technica 540ML RigB, which is certainly a step up from the XP3. Gonna pair it with a Pro-Ject Phono Box S2, just because of the wriggle room with impedance load adjustment that it gives you with it. I listen to a lot of 80’s-90’s rock, so I think this turntable would be perfect for me!
I liked my Ortofon 2m Bronze a lot, but I upgraded to 2m Black. TT: Technics SL-1210 MK2. Is this turntable a D.J. turntable? Yes it is! But not only: this combination - turntable and cartrige - sounds not only very good but absolutely audiophile.
The question goes out to Alexander, hi there , what is Audiophile? OK you have a lovely old technics sl1210 MK2 , and a ortofon 2mm black which in itself sounds/ seems all well and dandy . Personally speaking the ortofon black could be considered overkill, but each to their own. I have a technics SL1200 G running on ortofon 2m bronze and I also use a nagaoka mp200 and I also use a AT3600L cartridge which is surprising good , does this make me an audiophile? The answer is no , no it doesn't it's very subjective, I just like well engineered record decks that sounds good to me , and after all the rest of my system could be considered as utter rubbish , and probably is compared to what some people have, the point is 2 good links don't make a strong chain.
The vinyl behind your head is phenomenal. Have all Shearing works, including with Mel Torme! And Julie London's as well. Gustavo Caldas. Cheers...
Good stuff! Nice of you to notice, Gustavo.
When I see Brian Eno & Japan records behind someone, that’s a person whose advice I can trust.
Hi B. Stanley - Hehe, thank you. To paraphrase Lennon, I'm glad I passed the audition :)
When I heard him say that the lp120 is 250 pounds I was shocked as no way a turntable would be that heavy. But then I understood he was talking abolished the price😅
abolished eh ?
@@TrueAudio sorry that was a typo
@@TrueAudio I meant 'about'
Okay, so you're not a big fan of DJ-style turntables. BUT, what direct-drive turntables come in at about the price of an AT-LP 120? $250 or $300 is about the top of what I want to spend on a turntable and I'm not a fan of belt-driven ones.
Direct Drive? The new 120x is very nice. Less DJ and more sound priority.
Hi, I'm on the jump to change from Technics SL 1210mk2 to Audio-Technica AT-LP140XP. I'm a DJ and run several Clubnights.
But there are two main questions to be answered:
1. How is the damping/resonance stability compared to the SL-1210MK2 especially in heavy loud Club environments (above 110 Db/ mainly +/- 80Hz resonances)?
2. How is the build quality compared to the SL-1210MK2 (materials of the body & base/sockets for the track light/ tonearm bearings/ feet/ motor bearings/ motor hum (?) / Materials etc. )
I'm am convinced that a lot of products in the pro DJ market are worth thier money, but I'm also convinced that there are a lot of products where you only pay the brand/marketing.
The other way round a lot of "B" Brands are engineering Pro/high quality products and just lack the budget to promote them as such.
Long story short, I don't want to find myself selling my 20yo Technics 1210s for a "Semi" Pro DJ Turntable that can't keep up in a professional environment.
I would much appreciate your honest thoughts to make a discussion for or against the LP140 for professional club use.
Thank you very much!
Hi Diaz - don't forget that the 140 is a budget deck priced around the £350 mark so the build quality will not be rated at the 1200's level. I have not used the deck in a DJ environment, bit out of my league in terms of what I do I'm afraid. The 140 does feature a measure of internal damping so, and it's only my guess nothing more, that it should work fine.
Can I ask why you're wanting to move from the 1200?
@@TheAudiophileMan thank you for your answer.
My SL-1210MK2 are over 20yo now, not in the best condition (lots of touring) and I was teased with the new SL-1210MK7 to by myself a new pair of new Technics.
Then I saw the 140 and thought that they are so equal in so many ways (e. g. weight, design) that I could investigate if they could be a good buy. Also Audio Technica has a proper record as a Turntable Manufacturer that I thought it may could be that the 140 could at least keep up with the MK7 or perhaps even with the MK2.
So the Idea was that I could save money with getting two 140 for the price of one MK7 and still having money left to upgrade to some more high-end cartridges & needles.
What I know now after a few long hours of research is, that the 140 (besides its plastic cabinet) will probably outperform the MK7 and that its better to invest my money in a good MK2 service then into the MK7.
What you hear about the MK7 is devastating for Technics/Panasonic imho.
The SL-1210MK7 Turntables come with a pitch that is already at +8% when its actually on the +7% position and "intentionally" has a DEADSPOT above that on both sides of the pitch range. (check "Just Technics" channel for verification). Some even don't have the 0 position in the right place.
It comes with 2 kg less weight (same as the 140! ~10Kg) and bad damping, which makes this Turntable unsuitable for Club environments due to the high susceptibility to vibrations (check "DJ City" for verification).
It suffers from cheap components/production from front to back (e.g. cheap Popup-Light/ Platter Dots wobble on a lot of decks) and for all that has a price tag that keeps your breath away.
With all this "problems" it seems its a dedicated DJ Turntable that is promoted as "The rebirth of the legend" but actually is unusable for Club DJs but only for Livingroom Selectors.
And from your point of view I guess not even for Hifi usage too?
Again thank you for your input and help and I'm looking forward to a MK7 review of comparison with the 140 ;)
It would have been so nice to have a new MK at home but this model is very disappointing.
I'll keep my MK2's now...
Thanks for your DJ insight Diaz - always happy to hear from a specialist user. Good luck with your decision and if I can help in the future, let me know.
@@Diaz.Subsistence I agree with all you said about the MK7. It has so many issues, cheaply made and that pitch issue. Panasonic has the outsourced to Malaysia unlike the GR etc. Now the GR is solid like the MK2 but the pitch is horrible for mixing have to keep adjusting constantly. The 140 to me is the best bang for the buck and has none of the issues of a MK7 at half the price.
Thanks for the review. I have always wondered about how the knock offs of the Technics SL1200 fare. I cannot speak to AT 140, but I can share my experience on having an DJ table as as hi end analog source. It is interesting since the 1200's were intended to be an Audiophile table, and not the DJ table that garnered most of its accolades. I own the GAE reissue, even though it kept all the features of the SL series its DJ bells and whistles have not seemed to inhibit its ability to perform as an audiophile table. It actually has kept pace with an SOTA sapphire with SME 309 arm that I regrettably had to let go due it being to big to work in my new setup. I chose the Technics because the footprint was compact and I had great experiences, during my college days, with their reliability. Nonetheless, I was grieving the loss of the SOTA, (It was a dream table of mine.) when I was pleasantly surprised how well the GAE handle an the heavy $1500.00 Grado wood body cartridge, I like. The technics arm tracked better, plus the unit's noise floor was mush quieter. For about $2500.00 less than the SOTA rig to boot. Over the years I have owned several notable brands, Rega, Project, and Thorens. Of all the things I have owned I have liked this so called DJ's table the best. Albeit I will never ever use the pitch control.
Hi Ridire Fáin - thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. Very welcome :)
If Audio Technica AT-LP140 audio fidelity is affected by the DJ setup, would you dare to say the same thing about the Technics SL1200 MK2? I dare you to say it and then name one turntable from your list that would pass NAB standards.
The last time I accepted a dare...I think I was seven years old. This review of mine might provide you with more information: theaudiophileman.com/technics-sl-1200g-turntable-review/
Which one would you and you guys recommend between the 120 and 140? :)
I use the Pioneer PLX-500. 'White' why is it no one seems to talk about it? I love it, works and sound great. I use the 2mRed Ortofon though. Not the stock one it came with.
Lovelorn88 Nick I’ve always wondered about that myself. I especially want to know whether it shares the same problems the first-gen AT-LP120 had because they’re based on the same Hanpin model. Supposedly Pioneer was more hands-on with Hanpin on a couple things than AT was, and it may have a better preamp as a result.
@@cubdukat The PLX 500 might have same pre as the 120
I agree it’s more pressure on stylus to vinyl for dj speakers bass for it not to skip - live time on records is less 😃☝️😏 thank you
I have an LP120 that I purchased second-hand as a plaything, I didn't take it seriously, I just wanted something I could use for playing records from charity shops etc, but I decided I would see what I could do to improve it a bit, first I put a better spring on the anti-skate and topped up the damping fluid and replaced the cartridge with a 2M blue, then on taking the deck apart I decided I didn't want the phone amp so removed it and connected better quality cables directly to the arm and bypassing everything so they are straight to my amp, then I looked at the plinth itself and added sound deadening to the inner case and fitted Sorbothane rubber to the feet, I removed the transformer and mounted that on rubber as well, I am surprised how good it sounds now and it's pleasant to use when I don't want to fire up my good decks. I recommend fitting a good rubber mat and putting some sound deadening under the platter to stop the ringing.
What did you add to the inside of the plinth to deaden the sound?
The AT LP5 and AT LP7 look like the winners in the current AT line up. I was thinking about trying the new AT VM95ML looks like could be a winner. If you get a chance to review the Fluance RT 85, please do.
VM95ML is an amazing bargain. Even better one is LPGear A3SV.
Fluance RT85 is same as RT83 - exactly the same except for the acrylic platter, and it comes with a 2M Blue rather than Red. (I can't stand the Red anyhow.) Makes the 85 a very good deal just in cost savings if you want the 2M Blue..... But the VM95ML and A3SV are both better. I'd stick either on this AT and be done.
Audio Technica turntables are the best I'm getting the Audio Technica LP60SPBT BK which is the one that comes with a Bluetooth wireless speaker
Hi Laura - yes, I know that one. I hope you have a great time with it!
Hopefully you aren't ever planning on reselling any of those LP's. When their time comes, just pitch them in the trash.
@@cjsvinyl Now Chad!! 😂😂😂
@@cjsvinyl That's rich coming from a vinyl fan, I don't believe in pitching records in the trash unless totally unplayable or broken in half
I am sorry that it is thought that DJ accessories are not necessary because they add unnecessary colouration etc to music reply. I disagree I'm afraid , with the average house being an awkward place to replay music. Every room reacts differently with turntables, etc . If a deck has the ability to adjust itself (i'm thinking of pitch ) or whatever then how can you say it is not audiophile. People should buy what they consider to be suitable for their needs not the reviewer. I own a Technics SL1200 MK2, it suits my needs and is versatile in its use.
Hi Nigel - I can imagine the legions of SL12xx fans agreeing with you!
Hi Nigel, you’re right that the room has a big influence on the nature of the sound quality, although the only turntable I know that has the ability to “adjust itself” costs around £100k :) And you already know my opinion on DJ furniture for general hifi use. That said, the Technics was not part of this test, nor was it a factor in this review. Nor did I ever challenge your right to choose the turntable for you. As for my role in this? I’m only here as a guide, no more. No reviewer should ever tell you what to hifi to buy. And you certainly have the right to agree or disagree with my views. If advice is what you seek, your job is to find the right critic. The guy who thinks like you and moves along a similar pathway. So if my views are contrary to your hifi philosophies then you need to seek out that complimentary critic.
Mine should be arriving today. I'm going to do a couple tests with the XP3 on it, but then I'm throwing a VM95ML on there. I may also do some testing by putting the old VMN95e stylus back on.
Well, I just got it...and it's going back. There's a really loud hum going on with it.
@@cubdukat Good ol audio technica strikes again! Reasons to just buy a used SL-1200 on EBay. My SL-1200 is 18 years old, and in the 2 years that I've had it, I still haven't had one problem with it. Flawless tank!
Cj's Vinyl I looked for some 1200’s, but even the crappiest one was way out of my league. The other reason I went with the 140 was I could get it right away for $299; i would have never paid the four bills for it. The second 140 was much better behaved. I’ve had it for a couple weeks now, and it’s staying. Maybe down the road I’ll sell it on eBay and put that towards a true 1200. All anyone seems to want to sell are the Mk2, and I want one of the Mk5 models like you have.
Larry Wilson I got one and changed the stylus like you to 95e , it sounded clearer however I was not impressed, I’m going to get the top end stylus in the range of the VMN , The Brown Shibata , fingers crossed its sounds good for the price
@@cjsvinyl 1200's can have problems with humming transformers, stinking up the silence between tracks, I have a MK4
How can a piece of technology sound "stressed"..??.. too much caffeine?? Ahhhhhh!!
Yes. Yes, that's exactly it.
I don't consider myself an audiophile however sound quality has been becoming more and more crucial for me especially as I build out my audiophile quality collection of vinyl LPs. I first got into turntables in the late 80s and my second setup was a pair of Technic 1200s. My current setup is a vintage pioneer pl-570. It's decent but the feature I have an itch for the most is being able to do VTA adjusments on the fly. Even though my PL-570 has vta adjustments it's a bit wonky and not nearly as elegant to perform those adjustments as on a 1200 or a LP140XP. I wish some of these entry level audiophile TTs had easy to perform VTA. That's precisely why I'm looking at the AT. Thanks for your review. It's great and def helping me consider my options. My question to you is why don't you ever seem to mention VTA? It seems it would be a crucial consideration for an audiophile as it seems to really make a considerable difference when dialed in just right and with all the different vinyl weights out there it seems to be a crucial function.
Every video is a compromise and is aimed a cross-section of viewers. The 140 is primarily a lifestyle design where sound is not the only priority. The DJ fraternity is taken care of, for example while others who - as I say in the title - enjoy DJ chic or are possibly more casual buyers are also to be considered. Which is not to belittle your own requirements in any way, of course. The video is there to appeal to as many people as possible, therefore but if you have specific queries or you want me to address something not included in the video then that's what the comments are all about. The comments section is merely an extension of the video.
@@TheAudiophileMan I'm slightly confused. I was just asking about VTA as it relates to entry level audiophile turntables. But ok.
You asked why I don’t mention VTA and I gave you one example relating to the 140 which is where we are in terms of videos here.
@@TheAudiophileMan My comment wasn't to do with your video quality, as I truly enjoy your vids and have gained much from them. I'm genuinely curious about what your take is on VTA as it relates to entry level audiophile turntables as VTA is something these lifestyle/dj turntables offer well and entry level audiophile TT's don't seem to cover that area well.
I have 2 LP140XP's connected to my Allen Heath Xone 23 mixer and super happy how they sound. Of course playing house music, funk and minimal. First thing i did was immediately swapped out the carts to the Shure M44-7 much louder than the stock carts. I also played around with an Ortofon 2M Blue that I have on my minty Technics 1200 MK2 and sounded very nice. Though for listening to my albums, I prefer my Technics 1200 MK2 with the Ortofon 2M Blue. I did have 2 LP120 prior to the LP140XP and love the upgrade. Would have gone with a Technics 1200, but so difficult finding a mint one to match the one I currently own. I figured for the price of one minty Technics, I'd give the LP140XP a try. Though I will take you up on your suggestion of upgrading the rca/ground cables. Should help a little.
Hi Vinyl Masta - thanks for the insight into your system and glad I could be of help :)
hey Vinyl Masta I've been following your posts on instagram great content you put up there, how long have you had the at lp140x and how is the anti skate on them?
6 months and no issues with anti skate.
@@espresso1967thanks man thats great news Im getting a pair soon
How's the torque? I'm a open format dj, I've been on 1200s, numark ttx, Stanton 150, and I owned the first gen audio technica 1240s. The 1240s where awesome but had to let them go. I seen these and liked the 1200 look with the recessed platter. I'm debating on these compared to the 1240xp. But these look good at the price point. And seen they 2.2cfkg of start up torque while the 1200s had 1.6cfkg of torque so I'm hoping these are about the same if not slightly better then the 1200s since I do some intermediate scratching so I don't want a drag and come
off beat. Let me know please thank you. @vinyl masta
Best record player for the money put a black Orton on it brings the cost to a grand but wow what a deal.
I did not get the AT-LP140XP for the AT DJ Cartridge, which I immediately discarded. I got it for my 3 Shure Cartridges - the M95ED, the M97x and the V15x, all equipped with brand new Jico SAS tip with Boron, Sapphire and Ruby Cantilever assemblies, after the motor of my cherished Technics SL-1200 MK2 decided to die.They sound great. I leave all those 'Audiophile MC Groove Digger lovers' with their Belt-Driven waiting-to-die super contraptions to their fate, which usually starts when they cannot find a proper belt replacement for a, say, 5,000-Euro-or -Dollar 'Hi-End 'monstrosity.
Subjectivity is brought to a new pinnacle.... now I have to seek "vigor" in my sound.... LOL
Don't leave home without it, Hammy :)
I own the Lenco 3808 with a AT95E stylus, and Rubber Cork mat.
And use is as a listening turntable. sounds great to me.
Sounds good, Wilesco 53 - I reviewed that very turntable and gave it an award-winning rating. Great for the price.
You should never compare two turntables if the cartriges are different, that's nonsense to me.
I agree but the original intention here was not to review a turntable. It was to review a package. I've talked about this several times on this channel. Most recently I think during the Lenco '09 review a couple of week's back. If I was reviewing a turntable that arrived without a cart then sure, I would bring in a cartridge reference and use that on both the new and reference turntables to A-B test.
When people buy packages like the 140 though - turntables/tonearms/carts in the one box for a single price - most people never change the cartridge at all. Even those that do live with the bundled cart for some time, often for many years, before an upgrade is mooted. So I have a duty of care, as a reviewer, to cater for those people and to compare 'this' package with 'that' package.
Any change of cartridge for a package is then categorised as an upgrade video - as seen in the RPM1 video on my channel The Pro-Ject EVO was reviewed here as a 'package' and I'm planning a second upgrade review in the next couple of weeks with a new cart and other accessories.
As for the 140? The 140 package was compared to the Lenco package. Because I was very unhappy with the 140's cart (this was an exception, I'm not usually driven to change the cart in a package review) I upgraded it in the review to a 2M Red and compared that the Fluance *with the same cart*. So you get your wish there :)
Interesting. My Technics SU-V9 integrated amp has two phono stages. I have both a Project Carbon EVO (with a Ortofon 2m Blue) and a Audio Technica AT-120XUSB (with a AT-VM95E) hooked to it. I like them both however they both serve very different purposes.
Hi , very interesting review - I have owned an AT120 for a week or two, nice deck. I am not a true audiophile and have recently upgraded from my old Sony turntable and amp. I hadn’t seen the AT 140 before or I’d have bought it straight off as I bought my 120 from Amazon - I am taking advantage of sending it back and have ordered a 140 to replace it with. I didn’t like the pre - amp in the 120 and have seen several video’s on removing it, seems a bit pointless to me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I listen to a lot of rock so the 140 may well be a great buy for me ( with a change of cartridge). Thanks for your review :-)
Hi Paul - removing the 120's phono amp? You're right, it is pointless. Yes, the 140 will perform very well with rock tracks. Hope you enjoy your music!
@@TheAudiophileMan Hi , yes my 140 arrived today - I took the opportunity to send back the cartridge that came with it and hung on to the original VM95VL as per your recommends - lol will save me buying another cartridge for now 😉 although I will upgrade probably later.
I have a Yamaha A-S 301 and a Dennon DCD 800 NE - I have more cd’s than vinyl running it all through a pair of Q acoustics 3030i’s
@@TheAudiophileMan I removed the filters from the 120 preamp, leaving it still functional
Ive owned this Turntable for 3 years now. I have done a Butt Load of tweets to it. O-ringed the tonearm, Auratec platform, Audio Technica VM95LMCartridge. .
Do you like it?
One of the reasons may be that there are people who like dance music - for which pitch control is material - and that the same time want to have a decent "kind of audiophile aspiring"
turntable...
Ok so you mention the reasons not to buy this for audiophile playing. HOW MUCH of all that noise and vibration you say the pop up light and other DJ tools create, are ACTUALLY DISCERNIBLE on an average set of speakers and amp setup, by Joe blogs on the street? Thanks. Are the non DJ tt’s at the same price point going to offer better quality that can be heard ? Or is it just another micro tweak that audiophiles talk about. Thanks 👍
Hi Chris - I did list the noise issues after using a decent hifi as a reference but, of course, the better the system, the more you will hear. That said, if you're paying around £400 for this deck then such a system, I would assume, wouldn't be too bad. If it's balanced in price terms and you choose the components wisely. And there's no such thing as 'Joe Bloggs'. Real people are all too different to lump them into a Joe Bloggs box, I reckon. I know many people who have great systems that are wholly revealing but haven't spent thousands in the process.
But look, it depends on your expectations, your requirements, how much you really care about such things and so on. If you're not listening for reverb tails emanating from cymbal taps and you just want to listen to music and get on with your life then great - go for it. I'm one of those sad individuals who do listen to reverb tails and the rest, though :)
@@TheAudiophileMan I don't even know what a reverb tail is
@@chrisbee9164 Echo
With this turntable can you connect straight to a powered speaker and use or do you need something to join them.?
You said it would be unfair to review this turntable! Well your being unfair talking about things that are not needed adding to noise. The colouration of sound you are talking about to the human ear is absolutely minimal, to which the vast majority of people will never hear. I have an AR eb101 and a 140 xp. Using the same cart on both (2m bronze) what's the difference in sound? One turntable has no gadgets creating this noise you mention while the xp 140 has all this noise generating add ons. So the difference in sound between the two turntables, nothing. A slightly different sound stage and that's it. I hear the same tones, highs and lows, background etc. The AR sounds better but it's so minimal to the ear. When you mentioned this noise I thought it was unfair on your behalf because you have made it out to be something it's not. That colouration of sound you mention will come into play when you have a £500 cart, £3000 amp £2000 speakers etc. Love your channel, keep up the good work 👍🏿
Thanks for your kind words and comments but I stand by mine...and my ears. Compared to a similarly-priced (even cheaper, to be frank), high-performance audiophile table without the DJ accessories, the 140 features a heap of noise. It has its good points which I also detail, of course. There is plenty to like about the 140, as I stated. I'm not giving this deck a bad review :) Balanced? Yes. Bad? No.
I haven't tested the 101 so cannot comment on your reference but I can comment on mine. All of those designs, my experience and my ears are the foundation of my review comments.
You're welcome to disagree, of course and I'm not here to change anyone's mind. That's not my job. My job is to give my opinion as an experienced reviewer and critic. It's your job to either accept or disagree, to stick with me or find another critic of your choice, which is all part of the fun of the hobby.
@@TheAudiophileMan very true, are ears are the judge. I value your opinion and enjoy your channel. I was simply saying this colouration of sound is not as much as you made it sound that's all. The review is brilliant BTW 👍🏿
@@TheAudiophileMan I forgot to mention the same can not be said about the 120 x as the built in phono pre amp does mess up the sound imo. Cheers 👍🏿
@@marcmills3223 The old 120 infamous for messing up sound, the 120X has redesigned preamp that doesn't filter top end
HI ! Nice presentation, but I want to ask you, because I'm looking for a device.
Does the Audio-Technica AT-LP140XP have an auto power off feature? Does the arm eventually return to normal? I couldn't find any video to watch it and I want to buy such a device.
A good day !
No but if you want an automatic turntable check this one out: PRO-JECT A1 FULLY AUTOMATIC TURNTABLE. BACKGROUND, CLOSE UP, REVIEW & FLUANCE RT81 COMPARISON
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@@TheAudiophileMan Thank You very much
Have you really tested everything your talking about? I'm not saying you don't know what your talking about, but my deck sits 90 degrees to where my speakers are facing. I can't imagine a solid planted strobe light mount and a tracking light in the up position is gonna create any audible vibration? And if they even produce any micro distortion, what about every other Decorative piece in our listening areas? Anyway, I am not pining for perfect audio reproduction when I rock out to my vinyl. If I want perfection, I'm buying a DAC. I respect what your saying but it seems a bit much. I never walked into a club back in the day and thought, the music would sound so much better is the strobe lights and tracking lights were removed from those 1200s. I just find is ridiculous to believe that those features create any audible distortions? Maybe I'm just being an oppositional dummy? Better throw away that dust cover which must me a vibration magnet from the deepest depth of hell!
Hi Erik - look, don't worry about it. Any of it. If you don't hear any differences or it doesn't matter that much to you then don't fret. Just enjoy your music. I obsess about all of this HiFi stuff, that's true and many others do too but if it doesn't matter to you then that's fine. As I say, the music is the thing. That's the best priority to have. When it comes down to it, that's my priority too. I go on and on about HiFi and small details but really? HiFi is just a tool. A means to an end. Music is all I care about really. As long as you're enjoying your music then that's all that matters.
@@TheAudiophileMan Nothing wrong with that. I'm interested in the audiophile views. Just don't let it ruin the fun is my best advice. I'm almost 50 years old and starting to see how short life really is at this point having lost some important folks around me. Rock on
I hear you because I've lost people around me too - I'm 58. When you hit your 50s, people start to leave us, it seems. And I wholeheartedly agree about time. I now have zero patience with certain things that I would have dwelled upon for ages in my 20s.
Saying that, any hobby that offers complexity is populated by a wealth of people of different types, interests and mind sets. I'm here to serve everyone (hopefully) from the hardcore geeks to the casual users.
My own mantra, as I say, is the music. I don't pray to the alter of technology. Instead, I glory in the art of the music.
As long as we can all connect to it in some way then, I'm happy.
Well, I gambled and purchased a 140 for my audiophile listening, needless to say, I am not really happy with it. I did change the cartridge to a Nagaoka MP-110 and the sound is acceptable but not what I am looking for. You are absolutely right about the cartridge that comes with the 140, I felt that 3 grams of tracking was way too much and set it to 2. Putting the 140 up for sale and considering turntables from Rega, Marantz, and Clearaudio. I wish that I had watched your review first. Take Care
Thanks Brian - and if you need any specific guidance/help, give me a shout.
What country you from?, In Australia the 140 is still very dear $670
if you like the looks of a Technics SL 1200, why not get one? Won’t it be better sounding and better constructed?
Oh, gotcha, thanks man, was just wondering, thanks man....... 👍👊💪🙏😎
It's weird how people bend the meaning of the word audiophile.
Hi. I have the 140, I bought it some years ago with the view to getting back into mixing, however, for one reason or another, that never happened and I've never needed to complete the pair. I was going to sell it, set it up to make sure everything was working as it should and... well.... its still in the system... together with a rega mini through the naim atom and denton 85's.. it sounds like everything i always think vynal should. Admittedly, my setup is very kind to source material, but I couldn't be happier, I've a basic otrophon blue.. cracking... only drawback is the disco lighting that, as you say, is great for DJ's, not so good for my living room.
Cheers
That's why this channel exists. To hear from happy HiFi users who've reached music nirvana or, if they haven't, to help the to get there. Glad you're having a great time, James :)
Hi Paul,
I have been living with my Audiotechnia LP 140 for a few months now and although I know its not strictly an audiophile turntable I’m loving it.
I have a couple of questions for you - is it worth buying an external pre amp and is it worth buying an audiophile mains lead and RCA cables rather than using those supplied. I know you consider this turntable to be more of a lifestyle turntable rather than an audiophile one I don’t know if upgrading/ adding these to this turntable would be as effective as adding them to something like a Rega Planer or a Project turntable. I have a budget and can’t afford to be spending copious amounts of money on my set up, however I do intend to get a orfon 2 M Red at some point in the future - any thoughts you may have would be gratefully received thank you Paul
Glad you're enjoying your 140, Paul. Yes, an external phono amp is definitely worth it to lower the noise floor and enhance sound quality. And yes, cable upgrades are also worth it for the same reason. When I grade an item as 'lifestyle', I'm not denigration it. The term is a common usage label to describe a component that provides ease of use, bundled features and often, non-essential aesthetics. Lifestyle kit can still sound great. Check out QED for low-cost cabling and Pro-Ject's MM Phono amplifier for around £65. A 2M Red is good choice. Also look at the Goldring E3.
@@TheAudiophileMan Thank you Paul for your advice I take your ‘lifestyle’ quote as you mean it lol. I hadn’t the first idea which pre amp to use so thats great and I will deffo check out the Goldring cart many thanks once again - have a wonderful Christmas 👍😉
I have it and Love it!
So between this one and the Pioneer PLX-1000, which way would you go?
I have yet to review the Pioneer so take my comments with some caution. Talking to colleagues, I would deduce that the Pioneer has the edge but then it should, it's more expensive. I would recommend an improved cartridge, for audiophile use though.
Reloop 7000 and Denon V12 prime are also good
Love the video. Thank you.
P. S. I own a Superscope TT-5. I intend to buy an Audio-Technica 120 AT-LP120X. Is the brand new AT better than the old Superscope? I am looking forward to your opinion. Thx!
I’ve been waiting for laser cartridges to come up in the near future. Such a gear could silence the anti-vinyl community a little (especially “digital dj’s”).
I know that a Japanese company produces laser turntables since the late 80’s. And I know that those turntables require clean records. By the way, I was surprised when I read benefits of a hypothetical laser cartridge on internet. Cheers.
Perfect for old 45's and 78's
I need a good budget turntable that I can easily swap cartridge for to play all 3 speeds and is automatic. What do you recommend?
Do you have a budget?
@@TheAudiophileMan well under 400 dollars...sorry I took so long. Prefer onboard preamp. I listen to many older pop vocalists. I have an audio technica lp120 w bluetooth. I can change manufacturers.
I bought one of these in March (actually, two; I had to return the first one because of hum problems), and on the whole, I'm very happy with it. If there's one problem I have with it, it's that the tonearm bearings seem to be somewhat loose because when I put the tonearm down on the record, it visibly shudders for a second once it's in the groove. Right now it's just a minor thing that I will eventually have looked at, but for the moment it's doing everything I need it to do and very well.
Now all I need to do is find a good LOMC to throw on it. I'm looking at either the Denon DL-301 II or the Hana EL/SL.
Hi Larry - thanks for the post but I wouldn't go MC with the 140. You said it yourself, the tonearm can't handle it. The arm is built to a price. The support it will offer will not get the best from a MC so you'll largely be wasting your cash on a MC purchase. I would recommend a turntable upgrade it you want to walk on that path. I would stay MM with the 140. A Goldring E3 would do well.
@@TheAudiophileMan do you still have the 140?, if so can you pull the bottom cover off and see how well the tonearm base is shielded from external interference, eg power board placed behind the TT, which after years grappling with buzz on the old 120, I moved the board well away and a big improvement, but the random dirty power still plays havoc with the setup, esp during footy games, possibly a plasma TV up the street wire chain ( I'm on the tail end of power line) and one other thing - Is the mains earth connected to ground post and top plinth?
@@manFromPeterborough I'll have to check that. It's out of warranty now, so I can more or less do what I want to it. I actually voided it not long after I bought it because I tightened the tonearm bearings as best I could. I'm very happy with the sound. The only thing that bothers me is the grounding issue. Apart from that it's doing quite well.
@@cubdukat I just bought the 140, The mains earth is connected to the ground post, the audio grounds are separate just like Technics
Hello to Mr.Rigby this is my third vid I have seen never subscribed but seriously considering it I liked your review of the at140 xp it is exactly like my ATLP-120 made before 2016 I bought mine which cost about 250 it wieghs 25pounds the tone arm has vertical adjuzstment it has revervse ,quartz controlled same light ,adjustable feet body is same compared to the newer atlp120 which is really thinner body wise and about 14lbs or less and does not have adjustable feet or tonearm hieght and when I first saw the atlp-140 xp I said it was a atlp-t120 usb like how my was made before 2016 they made a newer version of the T120 cheaper still same price as my old ATLP-120 but cheaper and made what looks like to me atlp-120 but as a new model for more money was not happy with that to me they were getting greedy and as for sound quality you are right I put on the ortophon om5e cartridge on this TT and on a pr0-ject debut 3 TT the pro-ject sounded a little better than the audio technica it was clearer and bass seemed less muddy and clearer highs were not annoying but clear even after I replaced that stupid felt mat I replaced on both turntables I hate those felt mat unless I was a DJ rubber and or cork is better in reducing static which was pure hell whenchanging records ,the atlp-120 I have is a heavy TT more like a DJ turntable than the newer T120 ,not happy with my atlp-120 cause of the anti skating spring which mine has the weak spring and I have to raise it up to its highest stting to barely get antiskating ,not happy with this TT it would be nice if the audio technica co would offer to pay to fix it since they were the idiots !! who designed it ,but I appologize for now I use my pro- ject more now and I have some several vintage TT's I have fixed that I like better I was getting tired of getting up when record would end I was able to get a Dual 1225 and 1009SK automatic so when I fall asleep record will not wear away when it ends ,I grew up with automatic TT's ,and between the two Duals I found the 1009SK is very quiet I love the tone arm even though it is beefier it is very light and with the shure cart I have in stalled 95e it tracks very well I do not know if you ever did a vid on vintage TT'S I will have to check so far this was my third vis of you It was very!!!!!!good I will have to see more JRo
compairing to 120x, is it better or not?
yes better
Thx for the review, but I still have a question.
Is there a sound quality difference between the AT-LP120USB and the 140X when you use the phono output? Let say that for both we have replaced the original cartridge by a 2M red.
I saw a review of someone who opened the 120 to find out if the signal goes straight out if you use the phono output. For the 120 it was not the case, because there was some high band filtering involved.
Is this the same with the 140?
Hey there Filip - the fact that the 140 does not have an internal phono amp means that the 140 does not suffer from internal, high frequency noise transference. So even if both decks are connected to external phono amps, then the 140 has an advantage. That said, the 140 also has a range of other design advantages that will result in superior sound. Not just the results connected to phono amp issues. One extra thing, if you're looking to buy an Audio-Technica turntable, you might want to wait a bit because I'm about to tackle the LP5x. I will compare that to the 140 (and other turntables too). Be a week or two if you can hang on.
Hello,
Thank you for your answer.
The LP5x is no option for me. I’m looking for a turntable who is versatile to use as a DJ turntable, but who has also the possibility to give qualitative sound when listening at home more like a audiophile.
For the moment I have two AT-LP120USB’s, with an Ortofon Concorde Club MK2 cartridge upgrade. This gave an enormous boost in comparison with the AT95-E. But even with the Ortofon cartridge I had no clear high frequencies when using the phono output. With the line output it is great.
My question is: if you should compare the 120 while using the line output and the 140 with only a phono output, which one would give the best sound quality? I have a qualitative DJM 900NXS2 with line and phono inputs.
Additional to that: If you would compare the 140 with the Technics SL1200 MK7, would the Technics give a much better sound quality? Price of the Technics is more than double….
Hi Filip - That's a bt of an unfair comparison really because an external phono amp provides a mighty sound quality boost. Especially when there's not too much distance in price terms. The 140 will provide big bass, yes but the finesse from the external amp will be significant. The Technics would win out, incidentally.
@@TheAudiophileMan I( have removed the high filters from the 120USB, but there is evidence the int pre is wired to the cart full time, which means 2 preamps running off the cart when ext pre is used
@@TheAudiophileMan Did you detect any motor noise on the 140?, tuturuism said to me it wasn't dead quiet, there are plenty on YT about the old 120 motor issues
Did you use the same carts with the 140 and Rega?
If I was going to buy a turntable technica 140 would this be a good buy as first choice getting back into music hifi build. So it would grate with rock. Thanks very helpful. I love to rock
Hi Paul, a have a question: if you choose to put an Ortofon 2MRed on the LP140, should you buy a new mat to adjust the height, or can you just leave it as it is (with the felt mat that comes with it)?
no need - the 140 height is adjustable
Sound is very subjective. It's also very easy to sway opinion on sound. Meaning.. If you don't know exactly what you're listening to.(I.E.. Blind listening test) You may come to completely different conclusions about the sound you're hearing. I've seen this play out hundreds of times during my years as a High end audio salesman. This deck paired with a quality cartridge... let's say The 2M blue... Will outperform or perform at level with decks costing 5 times It's price. I've seen it(And heard it) with my own eyes and ears.. This is a outstanding value for a Phonograph. And it's definitely a heck of a buy at its current price point.
Finally I found this pragmatic review.
Thanks for your kind words Drink Mo.
Paul, I ended up with the new Technics mk7. It's a wonderful turntable. Gustavo Caldas
Glad you’re happy with that, Gustavo.
@@TheAudiophileMan🙂🙏
Ah Paul how did this one escape my attentions,another GREAT video review Sir you`ve got the hole "direct drive vs belt drive" thing down to a "TEE" with your descriptions. It makes me laugh how owners of comparable direct drive turntables ie:Technics SL`s seem to want to insist that they`re better than a belt drive by another company ie:Project,Clearaudio,Rega,Thorens etc. With all the "DJ bits" on those DJ orientated decks you mentioned, I just "naturally assumed" they DO affect sound quality.
Mind you if I was to go for a direct drive it would probably be a Audio Technica,can`t see me needing much more from a "DJ" orientated direct drive deck than that &,they are at a affordable price point even if one upgrades the;power cable,tonearm cable & especially the phono cartridge(but to make sure it matches the phono stage...of course),you won`t be that far away from the "beloved" Technics SL!
Keep up the Excellent video reviews just one more thing before I go,didi you use to write for a very well known hifi mag I`m sure I know your name from waaaay back,could be wrong though?
#hifi4ever
Thanks ev - do you mean HiFi World perhaps? If so, I still write for them! :)
@@TheAudiophileMan I assume it is it`s one of the mags I use to buy on a regular basis.
All three of these tables mentioned are "lifestyle" turntables, no two ways about it. I have to really wonder how much the ear's perception is colored by preconceived notions of what these tables are "supposed" to sound like.
i have one of these and I love it, I honestly do not understand what makes an "audiophile" turn table, this one does a great job at playing my records. about to get me a dedicated pre amp for it to boost that sound. also working on getting an ortofon m2 blue
"audiophile" turn table has absolutely no features - just plays vinyl
The irony... The Rega P1 is known to be noisy 🤣
I’m referring to high-frequency noise that masks fine detail. The Rega offers a very low noise floor which aids sonics.
So what cartridge would you recommend? let’s say to just listen to your vinyls but I don’t want it to scratch or harm my vinyls.
Depends on your budget but the VM95E from Audio-Technica itself would be a good move I reckon.
Hi There!!! I have 2 turntable which is At-140xp and Denon df 400.
I looking for great cartridge for budget £150 for at lp140xp. I try the Ortofon red before I didn’t like it. What u recommend? Many thank
Hi Gareth - why did you dislike the Ortofon? It may help in guiding you elsewhere.
The Audiophile Man well, at first it was nice but when I got change to realignment because it wasn’t groove and kept skipping record. It not getting the sound I really want to get sound of guitar puckin, when I play the record at home with my family and they think it out distorted sound. I did everything to try get great sound back. But it sort of lost my way to use it.
Hi Gareth - Your skipping and distortion issues sound disturbing. That shouldn't happen and doesn't happen normally with a 2M Red and I wonder if there are other issues there. If you are looking for a different sound then a Golding E3 should serve well.
I ended up ordering this turntable...
Normally $500 CDN, and I got it for $113.
Did I make a big mistake? I'm a casual listener. I just collect movie soundtracks to listen to for background music while I do whatever.
Listen to it in your system - if you enjoy your music then there's no mistake.
Great review!! Im not an audiophile by any means but did find your mentioning of the "bits" just by being there get in the way. Was wondering if you've covered that in the past or could cover that in a little more detail as it does sound interesting. And of course there is always the power cable "bit". Was wondering how you feel about this since you did mention to upgrade and if so what would you upgrade to and why?
For the cable? That would depend on your budget. Apart from that, can you be more specific about what further information you require please?
@@TheAudiophileMan I would like to know what your recommendation would be on a cartridge for the 140.
Many thanks for your review, I'm wondering what would be your recommendations in the upgrading of the cables, I'm interested in what replacements you had in mind when swopping out. All the best Si
Thanks for the question Si. New? Chord has a C-Power for £50 but you may be able to find older QED power cables on eBay for £20-£30. Well worth seeking out.
@@TheAudiophileMan awesome, thank you.
Get well soon!
Whats the body made from? Plastic like the lp120X?
Hello I am just enquiring I'm not no sound expert I just want a nice looking turntable for my amplifier at home which should I go for the AT-LP120XUSB or AT-LP140xp and I have got a onkyo TXNR686 amplifier thank you very much
Hi Paul - that depends on a few things. The 140 is more expensive so cash is the first pause for thought. The 140 doesn't have a built-in USB port for ripping, neither has it a built-in phono amp (your Onkyo does have one, though, so that's not an issue for yourself). I'd say that the 140 is sonically superior to the 120 but, if you go for the 140, I'd change the cartridge to an AT-VM95E which costs around £40. The built-in cart is fine for now if cash is tight but look to upgrade when you can. An external phono amp is another upgrade for the future to improve sound (Pro-Ject sell one for around £60 from Amazon).
@@TheAudiophileMan The TC-750 is better than Pro-ject, I had the phonobox model, it sounded darker, the HiViNYWS guy doesn't recommend it and Graham Slee Gram amp and Emotiva were the losers
Great review. Please explain how the direct drive of the AT affect the transients, I'd very much like to know. Thanks.
Hi Joel - the direct drive motor does enhance the focus although the bass leaning output does soften the precision a tad.
Is the Shure M44G a good enough cartridge! Better or worse than these 2M whatchamacallits? I want something on my 140 better than those 2Ms an even better audio file cartridge! What would you recommend?
What's your budget, Mike?
En Argentina están trastocados los precios relativos. La Yamaha TTS 303 tiene el mismo precio en pesos que la AT-140. Sin embargo la primera tiene un precio en el exterior de 500 usd y la AT140 de 350 usd. Obviamente, compre la Yamaha.
Los 150 usd de ahorro, los invierto en una capsula VM-95ML y mas adelante me ocupare de incorporar un pre de phono, seguramente el IFI ZEN Phono.
Si hoy tuviera que volver a realizar la compra, iría directamente por la AT-LP7