Stump Grinding Views You Haven't Seen
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- The hazards are getting knocked a notch today as I fire up my trusty Kioti DK40 tractor a start putting some chips down on the ground while grinding some of the hundreds of tree stumps I"ve got around my woodlot. The Woodland Mills WG24 is the PTO-driven stump grinder that I"m using today which works well as a simple three-point hitch setup. With nothing more than the a little technique and some back and forth driving, I get the stumps put where they belong as wood chips instead of wood hazards. I'll take you through the basic operation of the Woodland Mills WG24 stump grinder today and explain why cutting takes place in forward direction as opposed to reverse. You'll also see some of the built-in features of this stump grinder up close which makes it a simple user-friendly piece of equipment. Glad you're all here for the tour today, here we go!
Tractor shown in this video: 2012 Kioti DK40se HST (32hp at the PTO, 40hp at the engine)
Stump Grinder shown in this video: Woodland Mills WG24 woodlandmills....
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Okay I could do this all day! Be in nature and tackle stuff like this! Count me in!
Oh and you outdid yourself on the amazing camera angles! Wow I couldn't stop watching and usually sitting still is difficult for me!
MM77 Approved 👍🏼👍🏼……………………………..I’ve flipped my tractor over twice, both times it was because of a stump I didn’t see. Good job getting rid of them before they get you in trouble!
Those stumps sure do well at hiding. I sure do like getting rid of them. Makes things feel alot safer for sure. Happy Holidays Mike!
Great Job Sandy on grinding those stumps down with the grinder..
Thanks Billy!
The many camera angles appears to be a real teacher of the grinder. It show the sideways slack helps in the positioning of the cuts. Never used one but it is good to have the right equipment for a unique job.
I agree
Thanks for coming along for the tour today
Sandy,
Merry Christmas to You and Your Family. I wish you the best, today and for years to come.
Cheers!
Faithfully,
James
All the best to you! Happy New Year!
Thanks for all your entertainment and teaching Sandy . All the best of the season from our Kawartha homestead to yours. Kevin
Thanks Kevin! Happy Holidays
Merry Christmas. Ho, Ho, Ho look at those stumps Go, Go, Go Sandy grinds em up like a Pro, Pro, Pro 💛
Merry Christmas Bruce!
Another great video Sandy, thanks for keeping us all entertained. I just recently purchased the same grinder and power it with a Bota L2501. With the crappy weather I've only been able to grind two stumps. Wanted them ground as deep as possible, so I spent more time clearing the dirt and rocks from around the perimeter than I did actually grinding. They were both green Douglas fir and measured 46" and 56" diameter at grade. I sawed them as close to grade as I could before grinding. Took me 35 minutes on one and 45 minutes on the other. I am totally happy!
I am sure grinding green or rotten stumps, and hardwood or softwood are going to be a big factor in the amount of time it takes to grind.
I also wanted to recommend that you get in the habit of greasing those flange bearings sparingly. They are sealed and really need very little grease unless you blow the seals out (by over greasing). This applies to all flange and pillow block bearings. Think the manual states that they are pre-greased at the factory. You probably have both types on your mill and possibly your chipper as well. Stay safe doing what you do!!
Thanks for that reminder Doug. Looking forward to putting some more stumps under this grinder as soon as I can
Don't need an axe to grind but a stump grinder. A half hour took care of that stump issue to grind. Way better and gets the job done.
For sure. Works pretty well
I personally love all the work you put in and appreciate the way you respond to all your internet people.
Thanks for being a viewer! Happy New Year :)
That is a great way to get rid of the speed bump stumps on the trails.
Absolutely
Lots of cool camera views in this one, Sandy. Lots of jumping in and out of the Kioti for those shots!
I got my exercise in this video for sure haha
So very handy for any forest. Awesome camera positions in this, bet your lens has a nice layer of pitch. You really do respond to all my comments and I really appreciate that. Your channel is something special and I always look forward to Wednesday and Saturday mornings. Thank you for all the time and hard work you put into what you do. Thank your parents for me for raising a good man. Merry Christmas Sandy!🎄☃️✌❤
Thanks Jill I appreciate the kind words. Have a Merry Christmas
Woodland Mills needs to do something about all that wobble when engaging the stump, poor design .
Bravo Sandy, luv your Vlogs, luv you feedback, luv you have an interest in us like we do you. I find your Vlogs relaxing and really enjoy them. I put you at 1 hour. You killed it mate. That suggested under camera is going to be a game changer. Thanks for your effort. I like many really appreciate it. Sean Sydney, Australia
I appreciate all your support mate!
Awesome job. I really appreciate that you refer to the manual when telling us why you do things. I try and also give reference to the Kioti manual whenever giving my opinion/advice on how to do or how I do things.
Thanks Yves!
Well said Mr. Jolicoeur, I absolutely agree. So many do not read the directions. I really appreciate Sandy's caution. This stump grinding is fascinating to me. Is that weird??? 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣♥️
Another soothing grind video. :)
Merry Christmas, my friend.
Merry Christmas Steve
Hi Sandy! This is the first time I have seen a stump grinder in action. That thing ought to provide you with a good bit of utility going forward. Thanks for giving us a peep.
Happy to hear you liked the video Terry
Happy Holidays, Sandy. Keep living the dream...it's at least my dream if not yours. ;)
Great to have ya along each week Bruce.
Happy Holidays
Hey Sandy, I did see this video when it came out but didn’t get a chance to comment till now :). I thought this was a great video, an the angles you captured on this one were 💯 excellent! I can see where another camera will come in handy for you during operation and hopefully thats something that you’ll be able to look into upcoming :). Great description about the product and procedure of operation, although I don’t have one.. or a tractor for that matter lol, I believe by reading the owners manual and reviewing your couple videos on this items would definitely have me away to the races! Anyways I hope you and the family are having a wonderful holiday season out your way! All the best this coming new year Sandy, and looking forward to all your great content coming up in 2023! Always a pleasure dropping by to see you at the shop / woodyard or the red pine forest! Cheers and take care! Andrew from NB :)
Great to have ya along for each video Andrew! I wish you well into the new year
Another great video Sandy. Thanks for taking the time to show us all the ins and outs of stump grinding. It does a marvelous job. And as it is with all new equipment, you will get better and better at it in time. Happy holidays Sandy. Stay safe. Hope to see you soon!❤😊
Happy Holidays!
Great camera work Sandy- thanks for doing this. I suggest you put two cameras mounted low; one on either side - that way you can look forward while driving backwards. Merry Christmas.
Great idea Lorne!
Merry Christmas!
Was just thinking, if you had a backup camera in you cab, like most vehicles have these days, I could be wrong, but believe that would be very handy for a job like this.
Another great video,
For sure. Would be real handy John
As with any Woodland Mills product, it looks simple yet robust, and very capable. But my stumping needs are on much more challenging ground - hilly, variable pitch, tight quarters. I suspect I would struggle with that one simply because it depends entirely on the tractor for positioning.
Yeah could imagine that could be tricky to get a tractor into position
Another great video Sandy. I've had this stump grinder for two years, and have had a Carlton Walk be side grinder for 15 years. Three things I've learned running this stump grinder. I removed the big heavy steel guard because it gets in the way doing larger bigger stumps. I replaced it with a heavy rubber mud flap, so it bends out of the way when up against a stump, yet still deflects wood chips. Second, I have found grinding left to right, the opposite of what the manual suggests, I have better visual and accuracy of where exactly the cutter wheel is on the stump. Third, I feel there is a design flaw in the tooth placement. There needs to be more room between the wheel and the edge of the carbide end. I find this small space, especially on the teeth facing straight down, get clogged with woodchips, and prevent the tooth from getting a good cut. When this happens, the stump grinder feels like it has dull teeth, and pivots up much easier. I've considered suggesting this design flaw to WM, but feel they would just say thank you and let it go. Who knows? Anyways, the grinder is great for out in the bush on my own land, but I use the Carlton for residential work, where I can get in much tighter areas.
Great tips there Steve. Thanks for that
Good evening Sandy..
Merry Christmas to you and your family..
Thank you for sharing your adventures and knowledge for us…
Keep up the great videos.
As always stay safe and always be kind.
Cheers my friend..
Thanks Gus! Merry Christmas!
Mary Christmas and keep warm
Merry Christmas Leith
Great job and great video! I haven’t tried it yet but I’m thinking if I have a row of stumps like this I might try just making several passes in the same direction so I didn’t have to do as much backing. I also try to top my stumps as low as possible with a chainsaw to lessen the amount of grinding.
Nice job on the video, thanks.
Thanks for coming along!
Nice job Sandy, good day to stay inside and watch your video, Blizzard conditions in west Michigan
For sure. Quite the weather here as we speak as wekl
made quick work of those stumps
Merry Christmas to you and your family
Thanks Murray! Merry Christmas!
Looks to me you have figured out the stump grinder very well and it does a very awesome job I'm not sure where you placed the camera but you also gave a very good view of the work it was doing grinding the stump's is much faster than digging them out Great video Sandy
Thanks Jeff!
Nice video. I have some large stumps under my belt with a very similar Baumalight grinder. I understand the difficulty in getting the lower arms tight with that type of adjustment setup. The grinder shifting bugs me, but it's not insurmountable. If you can't get it exactly right. Try putting some large spacer washers on the lower pins.
Great tip and thank you for that!
Merry Christmas Sandy. I have never seen a 3pth without turn buckles on the lower arms always something new!
Merry Christmas!
Thanks Sandy, Well done
Mike M.
Thanks Mike
That stump grinder is impressive. Your idea with a second camera is a good one. I see RV Backup cameras listed online for around $100.00 American.
If you could replace one of the 3 point stabilizer arms with a hydraulic cylinder, you would have better control of where the stump grinder is at. It would let you position it much easier than steering the tractor. I see 2 hoses at the back of your tractor, so I am thinking that you might have a control valve that would already be available. If not, possibly you could use a diverter valve from the loader 3rd function.
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Great ideas there Mike. Thanks for sharing that. Merry Christmas
Morning Sandy! That stumper does a great job. Great pics of it working. It's -11C with a wind chill of -23C today and constant flurries with drifting and more snow for tomorrow, Christmas day. Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Be safe and warm! Greetings from Peterborough.
Thanks for that Ken. Merry Christmas and thank you for your support on the channel
Really works well
Pretty nice addition for property owners like me I’m finding.
Thanks you so much for sharing this very helpful video I've got the stump grinder an really like it I've also gotten the HM126 mill really enjoying it an your narrating your videos I'm learning and lol , so merry Christmas happy new years.
Always happy to help. Merry Christmas!
Fun to watch you eradicate those pesky stumps. Very interesting to hear you talk about why you do things a certain way. Education and entertaining video, as usual. Merry Christmas Sandy from your friends in the USA, Iowa.
Glad you enjoyed the video. Merry Christmas!
good morning you did say you had a lots of stump to grind that is what happen when you make new road but you are definitely getting faster with it i was going to mention about a camera but you did mention it yourself but that would make your job easier happy holidays and have a great day
Happy Holidays!
Merry Christmas to you and yours!!
Merry Christmas Bill
Viability is an issue with the wg24, doesn't seem to matter what tractor it's on, it's the nature of the 3 point set up I think, But it's still an awesome product for the land owner. I bring a can of marking paint when I am out grinding stumps, after I have ground a few I get out with the paint and walk the work and tag anything I missed or couldn't see. I couldn't live without mine anymore.
Great tip there Keith! Great tool as you said for sure
You must have worked very hard on camera angles, very good gob. A person can get a good idea of how well that grinder works. Great job. Thanks
Oh, and Merry Christmas, I hope it's a one.
Thanks for that. Yeah took a bit of extra time to get all the camera work done on this one but I think it worked out well.
Merry Christmas!
Great Video Sandy as always. If you remember the last time you had the Stump Grinder on I suggested you invest in another backup camera for it, now I think you realize the necessity for one, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Thanks TJ. Merry Christmas! Happy New Year
Another great one. Less snow in Canada than here in Norway. Hope you have a great Christmas
Thanks Stig . Happy Holidays!
Merry Christmas 🎄
Merry Christmas Robert!
Nice land( impressive tree lot)🤩, nice machine & not much snow. Merry X mas Sandy. ( dan)
Thanks Dan. Merry Christmas
Happy Holidays to you and yours Sandy, and thanks for another interesting video, and a Happy New Year as well.
Always good to have ya along Wayne. Happy Holidays!
Got ‘er down pat now! Nice work. Merry Christmas 🎄
Merry Christmas Russell
I really want to come try it.
Sure is handy
That is some awesome grinding footage! I have the same grinder, still on the pallet though. Hoping to put it to work this week. Always enjoy your videos, keep up the great work.
It’s great stump grinder for sure. Hope your install goes well
Ok, I finally got it out of the crate a few days later. I still find it nerve-racking to cut down a PTO (chopping up a brand new bit of gear) but it went well. I’ve taken out about two dozen stumps with it over the past couple of weeks and I agree, its a great grinder. Mostly 18” to 20” across, and mostly Eastern White Pine, so very soft. After the first 6 or 8 of them, I found I could tell when I was biting right just from the feel/vibration of the tractor (mine’s only 27hp at the PTO). Having watched your work in this video, and the initial install video you’d done, made the learning curve a LOT shorter for me. Thanks again!!
All the best over-the holiday season.
Thanks! Happy Holidays
i can see how a low camera would help, and merry christmas Sandy!!
Merry Christmas Rick
Sandy, You need to find a sponsor for backup cameras! Mount it low on the back of the tractor to help line up on stumps.
For sure. Would be a great addition
great vid Sandy, would it work to ratchet strap the grinder to the right of tractor, just to take the swing out of it & eliminate a bit of guess work on the cutter position? Also the camera should have a plug somewhere near the so you could re position it between the two point of views you need it? Keep up the good work. I vote woodlandmills should give you a bit of sponsorship, if they don't already. I know I purchased equipment in Australia because of your Vids ☺👍
Hey Steve! Great idea with the strap. Think that would be a great idea to keep things steady. Camera for sure will be in the works. Two would be ideal!
Sandy, why don't you just set the stumps on fife and save wear and tear on your machinery? The burn would/should lower the remains below ground level.
That would do the trick but the fire hazard with the really dry pine needles in the forest would be a bit too risky for me to attempt that
Just as im about to ask how you see the wheel ,you answered my question. Lol.
Haha
Nice job on the stumps
Thanks Larry
MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR to you and yours!
Thanks Stephen! Merry Christmas!
Looks like it could get tedious after a while. Fun, but tedious. I actually like that kind of tedium to be frank though. Thanks for the vid and enjoy the holidays.
For sure Joe. I find I do a few hours here and there and eventually I get it all done
As always, anoth enjoyable video to watch!
after watching, I wondered about turning to the right on the last pass, since the grinder always shifts to the right! That would possibly grind the stump down evenly for the last pass! I noticed you did for some!
Would love to have a grinder, but I don't have the orderly rows you are working with, lol!
Think you're right about that one Bruce. Sure is a time saver with the rows of trees I've got.
Merry Christmas Sandy to you and your family
Thanks Rex. Merry Christmas
Hi Sandy I would like to wish you your family and friends the very best for the festive season, no jokes about your machine,I’m just stumped 😂😂😂 I wonder if you could it a ditch with it??
Hahaha ….. I’d imagine you could put a little ditch in but the teeth may take a bit of a hit with the soil. Hope you have a great holiday season!
Sure does make short work of those snags - I've been wondering the best layout for a camera in the back as well, make life a lot easier, lol
I agree. Think I’ll have to try one out before long
Thanks Sandy for another great equipment video. I have been looking at this stump grinder for a while. I have many stumps on my property and think its time to get after them. Would you recommend this grinder after install and usage? Thanks again.
Hi Tom, I'm quite happy with it as it's pretty straight forward machine and pretty easy to attach and detach from the tractor. I'm thinking because of the simple design there's less things to go wrong and so I'd still go ahead with getting it if I had to do it again
Merry Christmas Sandy. Stump grinding looks like it could be a pain in the neck. A camera would be awesome.
Merry Christmas!
I’ve been using the same stump grinder for almost a year now, I love it.
I’m about to order the same chipper you have. I’m curious if the PTO shafts are interchangeable.
Great video, Sandy.
Good question Corey. The stump grinder has a slip clutch on it but the chipper doesn’t on mine
Ok, thanks for the info.
Merry Christmas Sandy. Some great camera shot there. Just wondering if at some point you plan on replanting the trees that you've cut?
He is currently working on thinning. That will probably be continuous for decades. As the narrow trees get more space they will fill the space. Then they need another round of trimming. Replanting will occur after they reach maturity. He will be cutting big trees before replanting.
Great question Corey. In this case I’ll keep thinking out trees like Brian said over the next while and hoping after the final harvest quite a while from now I’m able to have some natural regeneration
Hello Sandy. It looked like you got a little more aggressive with the stumps as you went along, safety for the machine first. Do you think that somewhere in your forest you have some old stumps that could be harvested for "fat lighter"? About the snow going away, it will in time as you know.
Have good days!
Hey there! I’m going to have a good look. We did just get a other big batch of snow but if it melts down a bit I can go have a better look. Hope you’re keeping well
Happy Boxing Day 😁👍
Thanks Joe!
a down camera mounted on the grinder would be helpful to see on the monitor in your cab.
For sure
Merry Christmas to you and your family from ours. 🎄🎄👊👍 That would be sweet if you had a camera mounted to her with screen in cab you wouldn't have to twist and turn so much ey 👍
Merry Christmas Tim! I'm going to hopefully get a camera rigged up there sometime
Sandy, is it advisable to use this stump grinder on frozen stumps?
Are they too hard when frozen?
What are folks saying.
I ordered one for down here on Prince Edward Island. Was wondering if I can use it right away, or better to wait until spring?
That's a good question. I plan on using it on frozen stumps and I"ll be sure to update you to let you know if I find any difference
Now I am just a backyard welder, but, some of the Welds on your stump grinder especially on the shroud are not the nicest welds I have seen. One would think that the amount of money you paid for your stump grinder the workmanship would be a little more eye appealing. Just something I noticed. Does a very nice job.
It definitely seemed to take everything you threw at it!! It actually seemed to cut better when you forced it a little harder! Not once did it seem to pivot outward, which is there for when you do push forward to much! Also, once it pre-loads itself sideways, it didn't seem to jump around much at all! Happy Holidays to you and your family, and a Safe and Prosperous New Year!!
I agree. I'm was a bit hesitant to push too hard on it but I think it could take a good amount more. Happy Holidays!
Should tighten your stabilizers up to keep the hitch from shifting.
First I'd like too
wish you a very happy Christmas..
Any more Equipment buying soon ?
Or any new buildings planned ?.
Thanks Paul. Merry Christmas to you as well. I do have some surprises in store for January and February which I think will make for some great content. Hope you tune back in.
I think if you were to use a h/d ratchet strap and a h/d spring, hooked to the left rear and pulling it towards the right front, it would preload the grinder to the right and therefore not be so violent on the three point system.
Great idea. Thanks for sharing that!
the most efficient stump grinding obviously starts with the, as much as possible elimination of the need to to grind stump by, chainsawing the tree as close as possible to and level with the ground. We all know how fast a saw chain can dull with a little contact with the ground. When I am next thinning in the plantation I will be trying the "flush cut" method.
As short a chainsaw bar as practical, a thin square of plywood with a tree diameter+ U notch cut into it to place on the ground around the tree to serve as a chain protector, then a close to the ground, level to the ground, bottom of the wedge cut, then the downward angle cut to free the wedge, then rotate the chain guard plywood and cut the back cut level to the ground a fraction of an inch higher than the first bottom of the wedge cut. Yes, a proper small sawmill "system" includes a stump grinder. Using the stump grinder as little as is practical makes sense.
I like that idea with the plywood. Thanks for sharing
@@sawingwithsandy I do not know the details but what I see for our red pine plantation is its evolution into a sustainable wood that does not have very identifiable rows and with mixed species. This will involve removal of trees here and there and perhaps not a row at a time. So, not so convenient to drive the stump grinder down a row, hence "flush cut". Thank You for the demonstration of your stump grinder.
Being retired military we used red ribbons attached to various parts that needed removed prior to operation. maybe you should attach a ribbon to the pin.
Not a bad idea. Thanks for that
Are you running 540 rpm?
What would it be like on a tractor with down pressure Would it be easier
I think it would work just about the same
Think you could make a dugout canoe with that ?
I bet that would work pretty well actually!
How deep do you grind the stumps
Just to the ground surface
What about a chain binder to tighten up the side by side shifting
That’s a good idea. I may to see if I can rig something up
Just wondering.... I think you could buy a chain saw, and a bunch of chains for less than $1000 and have that saw dedicated to cutting the stumps. I know it can be rough on saws, chains and your back, but it would save you much more than $1000 when you consider the cost of the stump grinder.
Hey Mike. Chainsaws for sure do work. I used chainsaw for years but the trouble I ran into was the saw gets very very hot while sawing through stumps and often would stretch my chains. I often would end up dulling a chain on every stump which took alot of time away from the stump removal.
Many people would gladly spend the +- $1,500 difference and have the tractor do the work while they sit in a climate controlled cab. Especially someone older or otherwise physically challenged.
I have a spinner nob on my steering wheel I like it
I’ve wondered about those. I may have to try one sometime. Thanks Dan
What is your best practice for sharpening chain saw blades?
I use an electric chainsaw sharpener made by Oregon
SANDY I know you’re a smart man but that demonstration was pathetic grinding rotten pine stumps you could clean them out with your bucket on your front end loader in. 1/4 of the time
There is a way to fix that sway in your three-point hitch I wish I lived closer I would show you how to do it
That’s right there’s always a power saw could’ve cut those stumps off closer to the ground in quarter of the time
Merry Christmas Larry. Hope you have a nice holiday
Great job and great video! I haven’t tried it yet but I’m thinking if I have a row of stumps like this I might try just making several passes in the same direction so I didn’t have to do as much backing. I also try to top my stumps as low as possible with a chainsaw to lessen the amount of grinding.