Trossingen saxon Lyre - 6th century.

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  • @juncakarina7690
    @juncakarina7690 2 роки тому +9

    I'm blown away by the resonance these simple looking instruments have

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  2 роки тому +4

      It's very nice to listen especially when you play it yourself. Cheers

    • @juncakarina7690
      @juncakarina7690 2 роки тому +3

      @@renatodiprinziosmusic6210 i so want to play an instrument again, i used to play the piano well i began to learn , i can play all the recorders up to bass flutes and i even dabbled with a saxophone. Recently i tried harmonica because i so love the blues but it's soooo hard to play with the tiny holes i am so disappointed with myself . I feel very attracted to the dulcima and haarps that's how come i am here. Have you ever heard a channel called
      Peter Pringle
      114K subscribers
      and his rendition of an ancient haarp tune called Lament for Gilgamesh ? If you haven't gosh you ought to find it it will blow you away :)

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  2 роки тому +4

      @@juncakarina7690 Hello Juncakarina, if you already played the piano well in the past you can do it again, and for what you count you must play the flutes well. I wish you luck with the harmonica, it's a totally different instrument from the ones you already play so it will take you some time to master it, but if you like it, there's the best way to get it.
      Of course I know Peter Pringle, he is a reference in early music and a great performer of harps, lyres and chordophones in general.
      I encourage you to enter the world of ancient lyres and harps and their sound, it is very beautiful and magical at the same time while he feels a real connection with those musicians of past times. Greetings and thanks for your comments.🙂🙂

    • @juncakarina7690
      @juncakarina7690 2 роки тому +1

      @@renatodiprinziosmusic6210 Thank YOU for answering :) and thank you for your encouragement i really appreciate it . I only recently came across Peter Pringle and was totally awestruck xx

  • @richardgreiner9264
    @richardgreiner9264 2 роки тому +8

    I love the sixth century and anything connected with it is of interest to me . Thank you for this video .

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  2 роки тому +5

      Thanks for your comment Richard. There is still quite a lot of news about the sixth century and it will be the last century before the darkness of the centuries to come. with a mixture of the last rattles of the ancient age dramatically diluted in the obscurantism and fanaticism of the new religion that was so disastrous for Occident. All the best

  • @Jeff05Hardy
    @Jeff05Hardy 2 роки тому +6

    beatiful playing, good hearts always make good music

  • @maggiedaniels9562
    @maggiedaniels9562 2 роки тому +6

    Beautiful. It is so meaningful, after seeing these instruments in paintings, etc. to actually see and hear one being played,

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you Maggie for your comment, I am very happy to know that you like it, and I was very excited when I got this instrument and day after day I am still excited to be able to play it. Greetings!

    • @rufoturulo1286
      @rufoturulo1286 2 роки тому +2

      Hello Eva, I am "Jacques de Maisongrassac", the luthier who made Renato's instruments, these strings are made of a material called naylgut, it is a mixed material between nylon and natural casing (it is completely artificial). It eliminates many of the problems of natural casing. humidity and ambient temperature and the problems of tuning with these, to me personally, the gut is what I like the most, but I understand that naylgut is a material that provides a compromise solution and makes life easier for professionals, If you want to listen to the metal strings, listen to this Gusli from Novgorod, which I also did, with all the metal strings, ua-cam.com/video/H90UZ8G-Taw/v-deo.html
      Under Renato's supervision, we are in the process of making bronze strings of various caliber, to see if we can string a lyre with them and see how they would have sounded

  • @CathlynDeBurga
    @CathlynDeBurga 2 роки тому +4

    Beautiful sound

  • @davidfreja7162
    @davidfreja7162 Рік тому +2

    Beautiful Saxon instrument played so beautifully.

  • @luciadiprinzio8892
    @luciadiprinzio8892 4 роки тому +5

    Que bonito instrumento y que sonido tan evocador. Me encanta!!

  • @Michael-nh8ht
    @Michael-nh8ht 7 місяців тому +1

    A very interesting harp song from many years ago. Sound much better than Roy & grand paw picking & grinning, regardless of the fact that the two of them put out some mighty good grins, smiles & picking on the old Strativarius equivalent banjos. 🪕🎻👆❤🙏✝

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  7 місяців тому +1

      Thank you very much Michael for your comment, I really appreciate your words. Greetings from Madrid!

    • @Michael-nh8ht
      @Michael-nh8ht 7 місяців тому +1

      @@renatodiprinziosmusic6210 Mucho gracias me amigo 😀👍

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  7 місяців тому

      @@Michael-nh8ht Gracias a ti!🙂🙂

  • @fuzzfrancis435
    @fuzzfrancis435 3 роки тому +2

    beautiful!

  • @escueladelutheriagratuita.
    @escueladelutheriagratuita. 3 роки тому +2

    Muy interesante, no conocía este tipo de lira. Buenos armónicos.

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  3 роки тому +1

      Gracias José María por tu comentario. Fue hallada en 2002 en la tumba de un caballero sajón sepultado en el 580 en la localidad de Trossingen, Alemania. Fue hallada intacta, solo le faltaban las cuerdas. Un saludo

    • @escueladelutheriagratuita.
      @escueladelutheriagratuita. 3 роки тому +2

      @@renatodiprinziosmusic6210 Pues la hace más interesante. Es muy curioso este tipo de hallazgos con objetos tan delicados y que se hayan conservado. 👍👍

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  3 роки тому

      @@escueladelutheriagratuita. Un saludo!

    • @escueladelutheriagratuita.
      @escueladelutheriagratuita. 3 роки тому +1

      @@renatodiprinziosmusic6210 Igualmente Renato 👍👍

  • @maksshilov8200
    @maksshilov8200 2 роки тому +2

    Прекрасно!

  • @AIRVENT03
    @AIRVENT03 9 місяців тому +1

    Bonjour,
    Vous serait il possible de m'indiquer l'accordage de votre lyre de Trossingen.
    Je ne suis pas initié aux différents modes et je me demande si je peux accorder la mienne (8 cordes) sur la même gamme.
    Merci pour cette mélodie partagée qui sonne tres agréablement.
    Cordialement
    Erwan

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  9 місяців тому

      Bonjour Erwan, je l'accorde actuellement en Sib majeur, cela commence par le Sib le plus grave, le C, le Ré, le Mib, le Fa et le Sol car vous avez 2 cordes en plus, il faut ajouter le La et le Sib aigu. Mais cela est relatif au calibre des cordes que vous avez, peut-être vaut-il mieux que vous accordiez le La ou le Do, ou la gamme où vous voyez que ça sonne naturel, rien de forcé. J'ai parfois utilisé un autre accordage alternatif pour expérimenter, ou faire de la corde la plus basse la tonique d'une gamme mineure, notamment le mode dorien qui est celui que j'aime le plus ou le mode phrygien qui sonne plus ancien, tout est question de goût. J'espère vous avoir aidé, cordialement.

  • @pietroferran7052
    @pietroferran7052 4 роки тому +2

    ¿Y esto? QUE MARAVILLA!!! No tenía ni idea que existiera un instrumento como éste, desde ya que eres una caja de sorpresas Renato! Me encanta! Un saludo

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  4 роки тому +2

      Hola Pietro, pues sí, es un instrumento sencillo y maravilloso a la vez, me alegra mucho tu grata sorpresa. Un saludo!🙂

  • @luiscuesta2503
    @luiscuesta2503 4 роки тому +1

    Enhorabuena, máster, un instrumento con mucha magia

  • @martincooper6942
    @martincooper6942 4 роки тому +1

    Sos increible Renato, que lindo instrumento, no sabia que existia un instrumento asi. Saludos desde Argentina.

  • @carambarsama455
    @carambarsama455 4 роки тому +1

    Que bonitoooo

  • @mariadetenariano5940
    @mariadetenariano5940 4 роки тому +1

    Qué maravilla¡.

  • @tuzzvills.r.l.3848
    @tuzzvills.r.l.3848 4 роки тому +2

    Excelente instrumento para un grandioso Maestro como vos, saludos de todo Tuzzvill

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  4 роки тому +2

      Gracias a tod@s en Tuzzvill, espero que éstos sonidos os motiven al escucharlos. Un saludo gigante desde España🙂

  • @matthewhenriqueforgersen
    @matthewhenriqueforgersen 3 роки тому +2

    Fantastisk

  • @simontemplar614
    @simontemplar614 4 роки тому +1

    Ahora sí Maestro, vamos juntos a incendiar el mundo con la lira Celta!!!

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  4 роки тому +1

      Jajaja, pues vamos, pero los sajones se daban de ostias con los "celtas"...😉

    • @rufoturulo1286
      @rufoturulo1286 4 роки тому +1

      La division de Luthierie de A.C.M.E tiene en preparacion una lira "Gala" y una Irlandesa que pondra gustosa a disposicion de los interesados,sigamos "Irreductibles" como aquella pequeña aldea Gala...

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  4 роки тому

      @@rufoturulo1286 Me muero de ganas por oírlas. Altamente recomendable!

  • @Fatelovesirony960
    @Fatelovesirony960 Рік тому +1

    What are the dimensions? HxWxL ? Thanks.

  • @simontemplar614
    @simontemplar614 4 роки тому +1

    Sería bueno traer una de esas liras para promocionar en Bs. As.!

  • @pacco1737
    @pacco1737 3 роки тому +1

    Where do I get this Lyre?

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  3 роки тому +2

      Hi Skidbladnir, I commissioned it from a Luthier from Toledo Spain. There is an online store called Etsy where they sell various models. Greetings from Madrid

  • @rufoturulo1286
    @rufoturulo1286 4 роки тому +1

    ¡¡Ya es tuya ,maestro,la proxima con algo cantado¡¡,muy bonita,si señor,aunque la lira podria estar algo mejor acabada,pero suena bien'¡¡

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  4 роки тому

      Maestro usted que ha creado una auténtica JOYA con mayúsculas! El mito ha comenzado... Y vendrán muchas más sagas!🙂🎶

    • @Eva.T.
      @Eva.T. 2 роки тому

      I wonder what kind of strings are these - metal or natural? Thank you! Beautiful instrument❣❣ 🎶🎶

  • @Eva.T.
    @Eva.T. 2 роки тому +4

    Beautiful sound❣❣ I wonder what kind of strings are these- natural or metal? Thank you, Renato❣ 🎵🎶

    • @rufoturulo1286
      @rufoturulo1286 2 роки тому +6

      Hello Eva, I am "Jacques de Maisongrassac", the luthier who made Renato's instruments, these strings are made of a material called naylgut, it is a mixed material between nylon and natural casing (it is completely artificial). It eliminates many of the problems of natural casing. humidity and ambient temperature and the problems of tuning with these, to me personally, the gut is what I like the most, but I understand that naylgut is a material that provides a compromise solution and makes life easier for professionals, If you want to listen to the metal strings, listen to this Gusli from Novgorod, which I also did, with all the metal strings, ua-cam.com/video/H90UZ8G-Taw/v-deo.html
      Under Renato's supervision, we are in the process of making bronze strings of various caliber, to see if we can string a lyre with them and see how they would have sounded

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks Eva, I am very happy that you like it, as for the strings, Jacques has answered you masterfully. Greetings and lots of music!🙂🙂😘😘

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  2 роки тому +1

      @@rufoturulo1286 Thanks Jacques, I couldn't have explained it better, hugs!😎😎

    • @Eva.T.
      @Eva.T. 2 роки тому +1

      @@rufoturulo1286 Thank you so much, Jacques, you are so kind❣ I appreciate the valuable information❣ I love the sound of nylon/natural strings. Many blessings to you both❣❣🌷👋💖

    • @Eva.T.
      @Eva.T. 2 роки тому +1

      @@renatodiprinziosmusic6210 Thank you and blessings❣❣ Enjoying your music very much❣🌷👋💝

  • @allhailqueenhelga
    @allhailqueenhelga 3 роки тому +1

    What scale is this tuned to?

  • @halflifeger4179
    @halflifeger4179 День тому

    absolutely beautiful and so far away from what popculture wants us to associate with the 'warlike' peoples of the Migration Era...

  • @andrewwhelan7311
    @andrewwhelan7311 3 роки тому

    With all due respect, the ancient indigenous British were playing this instrument millennia before the saxons arrived on the island of prydain / Britain in the ancient tongue of the Cymru / modern day welsh.

    • @renatodiprinziosmusic6210
      @renatodiprinziosmusic6210  3 роки тому +16

      Hi Andrew, it certainly was. The lyres in general are a very old instrument and spread practically in all cultures at least since the end of the fourth millennium before our era. There are countless reliefs and paintings that show us how profuse its use was. The one that I have, in particular, reproduces the Saxon lyre of the knight who was buried in Trossingen, Germany, around the year 580 of the current era, a very precise data thanks to the dendochronological study of the tables that were used in said tomb. Not all Saxons went to Britannia, like his fellow countryman who was buried with his ship at Sutton Hoo. As far as I know, 26 lire have been recovered from the Nordic world in general, they are all very similar and very different from those used in the Mediterranean world, but in practice their sound can be considered very omogeneous, like comparing a modern harp of pedals with an Irish harp, in the background they are the same instrument. A greeting and thanks for comment!