1440P 120Hz! Overclocking my CRT Monitor

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  • Опубліковано 16 січ 2020
  • CRTs can be huge, but they also can be fast and beautiful. And I'm going to show you how to overclock them so you can make them even faster and even more beautiful. If you have an Nvidia card, I'll try to make an AMD video in the future.
    When messing with my ViewSonic p810, we can choose resolutions up to 1800 x 1440 (4:3 1440p) or up to 118 Hz. If you want to see more of this monitor, it is featured in my $200 Complete Setup video, the video can be found here: • $200 Complete Gaming S...
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  • @_quixote
    @_quixote 4 роки тому +558

    *i mean, it's a curved screen, who doesn't like a curved screen?*

    • @x256h
      @x256h 4 роки тому +49

      Curved the other way

    • @_quixote
      @_quixote 4 роки тому +74

      @@x256h *well its still a curved screen*

    • @stacy3
      @stacy3 3 роки тому +2

      Ronaldo Ross me

    • @stacy3
      @stacy3 3 роки тому +1

      @YDBoss youre dumb

    • @AugustoV8Cesar
      @AugustoV8Cesar 3 роки тому +1

      me

  • @gavcom4060
    @gavcom4060 4 роки тому +374

    imagine telling ur friends that ur monitor is also overclocked

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  4 роки тому +72

      gotta go fast

    • @alejandrobaffert9233
      @alejandrobaffert9233 4 роки тому +10

      thats true bro, i have a lots of monitors in my house and one thay I test them all, and my old crt of 15 inch was the best looking, playing cs go at high level i can true the tell, this monitor has an incredible arquitecture, high quality picture and excellente fresh rates

    • @2coolnicky1
      @2coolnicky1 3 роки тому +10

      I overclocked my laptop monitor to do 90hz. Its not uncommon even for LCD displays

    • @myface6739
      @myface6739 3 роки тому +1

      rn i got a smooth 75hz

    • @TehChozen1
      @TehChozen1 3 роки тому

      That Plotagon profile pic 👍🏻

  • @gzitterspiller
    @gzitterspiller 4 роки тому +348

    No lag input, no motion blur... I would take it.

    • @IAm-zo1bo
      @IAm-zo1bo 3 роки тому +2

      If it has too high resolution it has inout delay

    • @gzitterspiller
      @gzitterspiller 3 роки тому +46

      @@IAm-zo1bo Nope.

    • @retroke6560
      @retroke6560 3 роки тому +13

      @@IAm-zo1bo there's no kind of buffer for that to happen, or anything really, pure analog tech, 4k 60hz? then you will get a 4k image every 16ms, want it sooner? crank the refreshrate up.

    • @Purple__
      @Purple__ 3 роки тому +7

      There is motion blur.... the phosphors don't directly go back to black. If its better then high-end LCDs is debatable nowadays

    • @NUCLEARARMAMENT
      @NUCLEARARMAMENT 3 роки тому +14

      @@Purple__ motion blur on CRTs is better than most LCDs, and the best LCDs with motion blur-reduction techniques, ironically, have insane input lag caused by strobing backlight drives, BFI (black frame insertion) processing which can add a half a frame of lag or worse, and this is all cumulatively adding up. CRTs are the gold standard for motion blur, phosphor excitation and decay times happen in well below a millisecond. You can't say that about the black-to-black/grey-to-grey/fall-to-rise on any LCD, maybe OLEDs get closer but they still suffer from BFI-induced processing lag that CRTs simply do not have to worry about due to the nature of an electron scanning beam and phosphor-coated vacuum tube for drawing persistent images humans can make illusory motion out of.

  • @guywithalltheanswers6942
    @guywithalltheanswers6942 2 роки тому +46

    I just managed to get an insane resolution at 60hz. 2560x1920 Unreal. The old CRT I grew up with had the power to beat my 1440p monitor I just bought. This is lunacy.

    • @dukcy7450
      @dukcy7450 Рік тому +13

      We just never had cards that could render 4k at all to show the potential of crt in the early 2000’s

  • @chadstelk3957
    @chadstelk3957 4 роки тому +151

    I miss my view sonic so bad. I should never have changed to flat panel. CRT was heavy and worked forever. That's why they had to be replaced with thousand dollar tvs that need replaced every 5 years.

    • @tezy0193
      @tezy0193 3 роки тому +2

      More like 2 years ... my 55' samsung 4k tv lasted exactly that long, broke 2 months after warranty ended ( purple spots all over the panel ) btw and that was already the second panel, my original one was pretty much broken the day i bought it .. clouding and dark spots, got it replaced 6 months after i had it

    • @user-hr4hu8xb5f
      @user-hr4hu8xb5f 3 роки тому +6

      Are you joking? CRT get screen burn-in pretty easy and the brightness is terrible.

    • @DarkLord-Melkor6
      @DarkLord-Melkor6 3 роки тому +1

      I've never had a flat screen last more then like 2 years with out breaking in some way

    • @ducksonplays4190
      @ducksonplays4190 3 роки тому +3

      @@user-hr4hu8xb5f your wrong crts can be very bright and screen burn in isn't really that easy an example of a bright crt is an IBM 5151

    • @user-hr4hu8xb5f
      @user-hr4hu8xb5f 3 роки тому +2

      @@ducksonplays4190 IBM 5151 is a low resolution single color display, you compare it with full color crt and other display tech? LOL.

  • @akhilaryappatt7209
    @akhilaryappatt7209 3 роки тому +47

    A screen with an ELECTRON GUN! those were the days.

    • @JinnaiT
      @JinnaiT 3 роки тому +7

      Could also give you radiation poisoning, if there wasn't lead infused into the glass on the front!

    • @MrRobsn89
      @MrRobsn89 2 роки тому +3

      @@JinnaiT That is untrue mate, crts emit only xrays and not radioactive radiation like alpha- beta- and gammarays. Still ionizing radiation though, but radioactive poisoning ist not even remotely possible, lead infused or not (you can't get poisoned by xrays, they don't emit particles except photons) Also only > 1% of total radiation are xrays which most of radiate in opposite direction of the viewers position (better not stand behind it in case of more "ancient" models). More modern TCO standards also made it completely safe to use certified crts...

    • @MrRobsn89
      @MrRobsn89 2 роки тому +3

      Unless you spill liquid uranium on your crt and lick it up, then you can get radioactive poisoning from your crt haha... but better don't do it ;)

    • @sentheaS
      @sentheaS 2 роки тому +1

      @@MrRobsn89 photons ARE gamma rays, just the ones in this case are fairly low energy. also, non-radioactive radiation is an oxymoron.

  • @egegokdenizduman
    @egegokdenizduman 3 роки тому +35

    I remember playing 1.6 1024x768@75Hz. It was so much better and smoother than the 1920x1080@60 TN with 7ms display I'm currently using to play Global Offensive.

    • @ChineseNinjaWarrior
      @ChineseNinjaWarrior 3 роки тому

      I still use crt 160160hz. Lcd waste of money.

    • @prebenjaeger
      @prebenjaeger 2 роки тому +1

      Probably because you didn't disable vsync

    • @EnormeEkoH
      @EnormeEkoH 2 роки тому +1

      @@ChineseNinjaWarrior wtf

    • @soylentgreenb
      @soylentgreenb Рік тому +2

      LCDs have an underappreciated problem. The illumination on an LCD is constant where as a CRT briefly illuminates very brightly for a few tens of microseconds when the beam scans a pixel (effectively it's like a rolling shutter scanning across the screen).
      If your eye is tracking an enemy that moves across your screen side to side in 1 second (which is not that fast, see e.g. an arena shooter like quake III or UT) on a 1920x1080 monitor at 60 Hz this means that your eyes move 32 pixels in a frame in a continuous motion. The image however moves in discrete steps of 32 pixels per frame. This mismatch between continuous analog motion and the discrete, discontinuous motion of the picture on the screen smears the image as your eyes scan across those 32 pixels smoothly. The effect is as if you had a 32 pixel "linear blur" filter in photoshop and it looks clear as mud. If you have a CRT however, the image briefly flashes in less time than it takes your eye to move 1 pixel; the after image on your retina is stationary, but your eyes are moving, giving no persistence blur at all and the illusion of smoother movement than the screen is capable of actually displaying. Flashing the image briefly (BFI etc.) is very helpful as long as it is occurring faster than the flicker fusion frequency, around 75-85 Hz for most people, so that the screen doesn't flicker noticeably.

    • @ricarnuninho80
      @ricarnuninho80 Місяць тому

      CRT better due to zero motion blur. 🤗

  • @jacq0272
    @jacq0272 3 роки тому +17

    Aww man. I miss CRT's so much!

  • @MrPhantomFury
    @MrPhantomFury 3 роки тому +1

    I was in love with my old ViewSonic E50c that I got back in 2004 with my 1st PC ! That was a thing of beauty !

  • @pilotgeorge2000
    @pilotgeorge2000 4 роки тому +26

    This video is incredible

  • @thedopplereffect00
    @thedopplereffect00 3 роки тому +42

    There was this weird period of time where everyone was stuck at 60 Hz with LCDs for over a decade. I really did miss gaming at 85 Hz on a CRT, but the sharpness of LCDs was just so much more compelling. Glad we now have 120 Hz and OLED tech now to match all best the qualities CRTs had.

    • @BradTate
      @BradTate 2 роки тому +25

      we don't. not even close. you can't beat 0 input lag and 0 motion blur for FPS gaming. oled is the only thing that will even come close to rivaling CRT technology, and its not even as good.

    • @thedopplereffect00
      @thedopplereffect00 2 роки тому +1

      @@BradTate there is some input lag even on a CRT, but it's analog and effectivity less than 1 frame. A digital signal could as render within 1 frame as long as no buffering of the data stream takes place. I'm not sure if such a protocol exists though.

    • @thedopplereffect00
      @thedopplereffect00 2 роки тому

      @@BradTate also, good OLED or LCD should have no motion blur than a CRT now since they have no phosphors that retain an image.

    • @AugustoV8Cesar
      @AugustoV8Cesar 2 роки тому +3

      LCD is shlty.

    • @AugustoV8Cesar
      @AugustoV8Cesar 2 роки тому +2

      @@BradTate facking true.

  • @analogcaptures2785
    @analogcaptures2785 3 роки тому

    Thanks a lot I've been googling this for weeks.

  • @sourcey6620
    @sourcey6620 4 роки тому +1

    All your videos are GOOD

  • @spazzwazzle
    @spazzwazzle 3 роки тому +15

    You can set it to progressive scan in the nvidia menu. I'm running 1024x768 at 116hz progressive on my NEC950!

    • @uyfhkgc4468
      @uyfhkgc4468 2 роки тому +2

      Interlaced is better on CRT TVs and Monitors.

    • @mr.jamster8414
      @mr.jamster8414 8 місяців тому +1

      @@uyfhkgc4468 right, I think it's like the analog equivalent of doubling resolution or refresh rate without changing the bitrate...

  • @estebancantero4751
    @estebancantero4751 4 дні тому

    watching this from my SyncMaster 794v OC at 113Hz :) still rocking with my old CRT!

  • @Pentium100MHz
    @Pentium100MHz 3 роки тому +14

    A "crappy HDMI to VGA adapter" may not be good enough for high resolutions and refresh rates. Most of them have a maximum pixel clock of 165MHz (which is about what you get with 1920x1080@60Hz). Older video cards could do up to 400MHz on their VGA outputs.
    A CRT monitor is basically limited by the horizontal and vertical frequencies. Newer models (like yours) detect if the signal is out of range and show and error message (older ones either show a distorted picture/nothing at all or just blow up). So, the problem with image quality that probably is because your HDMI to VGA converter is overclocked and producing those problems.
    As far as know, Delock 62967 (Display port -> VGA) is one of the few converters that can do high pixel clocks. Though it has problems with my KVM switch (plugging the monitor straight to it works fine).

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 роки тому +2

      ive actually had a delock 87685 in my hand for awhile, been wanting to make a followup video

    • @Pentium100MHz
      @Pentium100MHz 3 роки тому

      @@laserfights Looks like 87685 is also lower frequency
      From the Delock site "VGA resolution up to 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz" - though it looks better than the usual HDMI VGA adapters that only go up to 1920x1080@60Hz. It's probably 200MHz compared to the usual 165.
      So you may have the same problem at higher resolutions or refresh rates, at least according to official specs. Maybe the device can actually work at higher frequencies than the specs say though.

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 роки тому

      @@Pentium100MHz i was under the impression that the 87685 is comparable to the DPU3000. Though, I have only heard that on r/crtgaming, I do not have the DPU3000 in hand to test.

    • @Pentium100MHz
      @Pentium100MHz 3 роки тому

      @@laserfights The specs for DPU3000 do not explicitly say what's the maximum pixel clock for VGA, however, apparently it supports "max 2560x1600piex@60Hz each monitor." for "DisplayPort1.2 MST source: (multi video/audio steams)" which would be about 350MHz. I don't know if it's possible to have the MST source for a single monitor, but maybe.

    • @gabrielv.4358
      @gabrielv.4358 Рік тому

      lol, blow up? I'd like to see that

  • @eggbag4182
    @eggbag4182 2 роки тому +3

    The best budget gaming monitor you can get, coming to an attic near you

  • @JeanRobert650
    @JeanRobert650 Рік тому +3

    I never had the same feeling that I had with a CRT on LCD. I would pay a big amount of money to have a new CRT, the best experience, sharpness picture on quick movement.

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  Рік тому +2

      totally agree, hopefully OLED starts to get close

  • @rodrigofilho1996
    @rodrigofilho1996 3 роки тому +40

    Try 1280x960 Progressive, and try to get it to 120Hz.
    Progressive > Interlaced

    • @muizzsiddique
      @muizzsiddique 3 роки тому

      Does that really matter with CRT? (I don't know, I haven't used a CRT for PC gaming ever)

    • @rodrigofilho1996
      @rodrigofilho1996 3 роки тому +2

      @@muizzsiddique Yes it does, its less important on CRTs but a progressive image will be more clean when the image is moving even on a CRT.

    • @muizzsiddique
      @muizzsiddique 3 роки тому

      @@rodrigofilho1996 Oh okay. Thanks.

    • @AugustoV8Cesar
      @AugustoV8Cesar 2 роки тому

      what you mean? how is it better

    • @rodrigofilho1996
      @rodrigofilho1996 2 роки тому

      @@AugustoV8Cesar Interlaced is actually half the refresh rate of progressive.

  • @fuzey4544
    @fuzey4544 2 роки тому +1

    yeah i remember how my crt monitor wasnt plugged into a surge protector like my pc. and it caught fire when there was a huge lighting storm.

  • @Zapp4rn
    @Zapp4rn 3 роки тому +11

    You should try 900x720 quz thats the half of the resolution and 144hz

  • @L3THALXFOX
    @L3THALXFOX 3 роки тому +6

    I have a 200hz hp crt. Man. It looks amazing. You just can't best that 3d look. Those amazing colors. And thirdly the fucking lack of motionblur and response time. Oh wait... the no pixels part? Leaving everything looking seamlessly natural to the naked eye

    • @idkrossplay
      @idkrossplay Рік тому +2

      crts are amazing but oled is amazing as well

  • @Heyitdave
    @Heyitdave 2 роки тому +1

    Haha I enjoyed this! And learned a lot

  • @adenanthony5257
    @adenanthony5257 2 роки тому

    It's beautiful. Must get.

  • @MyFancyGamer
    @MyFancyGamer 3 роки тому +4

    i can push my old Visio tv at native 1360 by 768 to 144hz not the smoothest and def tears but this its pretty cool too think about the refresh rates i could of been getting when it was my main monitor.

  • @juri14111996
    @juri14111996 3 роки тому +13

    50fps interlaced is not 100fps, in fact it is 50 times a half frame (every second line). so 50i uses the same bandwidth as 25p

    • @AugustoV8Cesar
      @AugustoV8Cesar 2 роки тому +2

      cool bro. just wanted some1 to counter argue you but no1 did.😥

    • @uncrustable9923
      @uncrustable9923 Рік тому +1

      @@AugustoV8Cesar lmaooo

  • @idkrossplay
    @idkrossplay Місяць тому +1

    you can do 1920x1440i 140+hz on that display, you need to download CRU and use an interlaced resolution

  • @jiunyann
    @jiunyann 3 роки тому +6

    for the green tint and artifacts, im not sure if it helps but setting the color space from Full to Limited fixed my issue. anyone who is having this issue might wanna try that

  • @gamerworld9661
    @gamerworld9661 3 роки тому

    Best monitor for my gaming.

  • @mikel9656
    @mikel9656 3 роки тому +2

    There are IBM and Sony professional Trinatron monitors that could 120hz 1600x1200 progressive. I know i had one. It was 21 inch flat screen trinatron and it was massive weighed darn near 100lbs. Was amazing for motion. Just took up tomuch space to be practical. Only monitor that has kept up with it is my newest 144hz LG ulta gear ultra wide and it cost nearlyn 1000.

  • @TechClapEng
    @TechClapEng 3 роки тому +1

    I just subcribed you from my 2 accounts. I am new in youtube. Fan of your CRT Tutorial. Going to make a CRT Video soon. Does you can do it with Samsung CRT Monitors???

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 роки тому +1

      thank you. i do not have any samsung crt monitors but you should be able to push most crt monitors at least some.

    • @TechClapEng
      @TechClapEng 3 роки тому

      @@laserfights Thank you man!

  • @sampletext69420
    @sampletext69420 3 роки тому

    Perfect 2K gaming monitor

  • @KIX1
    @KIX1 Рік тому +2

    What memories the web CNET. A few years ago they removed all traces of CRT monitors, and many of these now have almost no information on the Internet :'/

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  Рік тому

      :(

    • @AJ-po6up
      @AJ-po6up Місяць тому +1

      The worst part is many of those pages were not even saved to the wayback machine so they really are gone, I had one saved in my bookmarks for my Compaq 21" CRT many years ago, and now I wanted to check the specs again and boom it's gone, no trace of it not even in the archive's wayback machine, the manuals are gone too, it reaaaally sucks.

  • @stryker94
    @stryker94 Рік тому

    Awesomeness

  • @valentinbarinov
    @valentinbarinov 2 місяці тому

    WarHammer Darktide looks amazing on a crt

  • @SalveMonesvol
    @SalveMonesvol Рік тому +1

    When running interlaced, the higher the refresh rate, the better it works and the less you are likely to notice a difference.
    This monitor should be capable of 1600*1200 interlaced at 180hz, more fluid than any other display I know of, even 120hz OLED, 240hz IPS or even 360hz VA.
    Try it. For pixel timings choose CVT:Reduced blanking.
    Try it with CS:GO. This can actually give you a competitive advantage. Of you have problems try a different converter or an RX 390X

  • @kildozer2012
    @kildozer2012 3 роки тому

    I have the pf790 and it goes to 165hz at 1440x1000, still use it every now and then

  • @ElmoLovesYou2
    @ElmoLovesYou2 3 роки тому

    can you show some gamecube/nes games on that? - because old games maked for CRT monitor(color correction) - how it's will look on that monitor?

  • @The-E-Base
    @The-E-Base Рік тому

    Imagine even having a working CRT.
    Last time it happened to me was with a PS790 in May 2022, and it only lasted 12 months.

  • @oldchannel6511
    @oldchannel6511 4 роки тому +1

    i have a dell ultrascan p990 that can do 1600x1200 @ 75hz or if i go down to 1024x768 i can get 120hz out of it. its my main monitor along with another CRT which is a nec multisync 75 running at 1440x1050 @ 60hz as a secondary monitor

  • @HCRAYERT.
    @HCRAYERT. 3 роки тому +1

    Is there a way to force interlace on games that don't detect interlaced naturally like Batman Arkham Knight?

  • @lopiklop
    @lopiklop 2 роки тому

    That **is** a really good monitor for the price (fckn free)
    These were the ones we had at my local cybercafe in '04-'06

  • @dragonslayerlance
    @dragonslayerlance 3 роки тому

    oh wow. i kinda want this monitor. but wouldn't the phosphors be active to long and give you ghosting? this is a very interesting video. i want to know how long the actual pixels glow. i have a lot of question about the mechanics of this monitor.

    • @dragonslayerlance
      @dragonslayerlance 3 роки тому

      @jamestmartin wow that is so frikin cool man. thank you so much for that amazing knowledge. you frikin rock james

  • @TripleMoonPanda
    @TripleMoonPanda 4 роки тому +10

    Great video I wish I had that monitor (I have a Viewsonic A90 which is not bad but not as good as that one), but just letting you know that monitor can do way higher refresh rates then that. It has a horizontal refresh rate of 110khz so if you do the math which is 110000 divided by the horizontal resolution you want to use times .95 and that will give you the max refresh rate for that resolution in progressive mode not interlaced. So lets say you wanna do 1024x768p you take 110000/768x.95= 136.0677. . . So you could run 1024x768 at 136hz max without using interlaced resolutions. Only problem is that I don't know if your hdmi to vga adapter can handle the bandwidth. That adapter might be the only thing holding you back. look into getting a higher quality one or if you have a usb c out on your gpu look for a usb c to vga 4k adaptor.

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  4 роки тому +1

      Wow I had no idea, I'm going to have to do some testing. Thanks!

    • @TripleMoonPanda
      @TripleMoonPanda 4 роки тому

      @@laserfights Hey np, here's a great guide to using CRTs that someone made and posted here it helped me learn a lot about mine linustechtips.com/main/topic/1050162-navs-complete-crt-guide/

    • @TripleMoonPanda
      @TripleMoonPanda 4 роки тому

      @@laserfights Also I've been looking for more content about modern gaming on CRTs, most people that are into these monitors are mostly into retro gaming. I've already posted a couple short benchmark videos on my channel just to get some more stuff out there, but I was thinking you should also focus more on CRTs and Modern games I think people would really enjoy that kind of content (I know I do) and it helps spread the word about how good a nice CRT really can be. It's a really unique experience.

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  4 роки тому +1

      @@TripleMoonPanda I would absolutely be interested in posting more crt content. If you have any suggestions or even places/guides/etc for more information I would greatly appreciate it.

    • @TripleMoonPanda
      @TripleMoonPanda 4 роки тому

      @@laserfights Well Digital foundrys videos on the subject are a great place to start, but you might've already seen that. I'm in this facebook group call the CRT collective and there are a lot of great people who love CRT monitors and TVs also there's the CRTGaming subreddit. That's most of the best places I know to go for information. I'm going to start trying to post some more videos actually on the subject I just don't know where to start, I'm still learning about all this stuff also. But if you have some simple questions just throw them my way and I'll do my best to help out.

  • @Hoowahoowa
    @Hoowahoowa 3 роки тому +3

    Thats a pocket cinema 4k. Recognized it the second i saw the reflection. Haha :D

  • @SUPRAMIKE18
    @SUPRAMIKE18 3 роки тому

    I swear this is literaly my old monitor I had back in 1999/2004 xD

  • @hulksmashnoobsgotit2387
    @hulksmashnoobsgotit2387 3 роки тому +1

    more crts getting thrown away = MORE FLYBACKS YEA BOIIIIIII

  • @XrTrail.
    @XrTrail. Рік тому

    it really works ver i changed my monitor to 129hz it's amazing

  • @thesmashtvnetwork
    @thesmashtvnetwork 3 роки тому

    they need bring out a 4k crt

  • @inkedlad674
    @inkedlad674 3 роки тому

    Nice video bro. I’d there a way for getting 100-120hz working on ps5/Xbox series x at a resolution of 1800x1440 to 1600x1200?

    • @seum.
      @seum. 3 роки тому

      Sadly no

  • @softdreams1776
    @softdreams1776 3 роки тому +3

    i had a few but thats a good res my laptop wont even go that high and its new

  • @DarkdotMan
    @DarkdotMan 2 роки тому

    I don't know why I was here, I just watched to listen to advices only. I figured it out already.

  • @deltacx1059
    @deltacx1059 2 роки тому +1

    1080 has been pretty standard for a few years now 1440 has become almost standard but most TV's are moving to 4k now

  • @displaytalk
    @displaytalk 4 роки тому +6

    The green issue is because of analog bandwidth exceeding the capability of the hdmi to vga adapter. A solution would be to use a sunix dpu3000 which allows you to use 600mhz analog bandwidth(above even native analog cards like 980ti at 400mhz). Maxes out any crt except some crt projectors, even enabling 4:3 4k60 on the monitors which can scan it like the 2070sb. By the way, this is not overclocking. You call it overclocking with fixed pixel displays because they're designed to hit one specific refresh rate at native res, but can sometimes go above that refresh rate hence the "overclocking" moniker. Crts just have a minimum and maximum vertical refresh rate(hz), and a minimum and maximum horizontal scan rate(khz, determined by vertical resolution and vertical refresh rate). Anything within those two ranges will work, it's designed to. Overclocking a crt's refresh rate would be exceeding those specifications by modding the monitor in some way. Cheers!

    • @badreality2
      @badreality2 4 роки тому

      The people at Digital Foundry use a USB-C to VGA adapter to connect their C.R.T. computer monitor to a RTX 2080 ti. Do you know if USB C to VGA connectors to VGA suffer from this green screen coloring, due to a lack of bandwidth?
      How does DVI-I/DVI-A to VGA compare to USB-C, lagwise? One is analog to analog, one is digital to analog.

    • @displaytalk
      @displaytalk 4 роки тому +1

      @@badreality2 yes at a certain point they can, but usually they'll just cut out which an hdmi to vga will as well if you go too far above the bandwidth capability. Dvi-i to vga is lagless because it's analog to analog. The pins for vga are on the header of dvi-i so it's not even a conversion, simply a cable adapter. With digital to analog transcoding(no scaling, just signal conversion which is what these devices do) added lag is under 1ms, so subjectively zero.

    • @copper4eva
      @copper4eva 4 роки тому

      Isn't the sunix dpu3000 pretty expensive?

    • @displaytalk
      @displaytalk 4 роки тому +1

      @@copper4eva Unfortunately because it went out of stock a few months back yes it is rare and expensive. A good price would be 60-80 usd, which is what it cost originally but now that it's hard to find I've seen ridiculous prices. There may be rebrands of it with the same chip floating around the net somewhere.

    • @copper4eva
      @copper4eva 4 роки тому

      @@displaytalk
      That original price is very fair. Too bad I suppose that it's now being sold higher. I think people should just get cheap analog graphics card and run it along with their modern card (as I mentioned in other comments). Just a cheap and for sure way to hook up a CRT.

  • @ChineseNinjaWarrior
    @ChineseNinjaWarrior 3 роки тому +3

    Download CRU custom resolution utility. You can set resolution and timing to max of your horizontal frequency 240 or something for your monitor. Im on mobile phone so I cant see it well. You can also enable interlaced resolution which doubles screen height so you can have the same resolution at max 160hz or how much ur mon supports. Downside for interlaced image is its bad for text in windows, but its good for games and movies.

  • @HC-Alfred
    @HC-Alfred Місяць тому

    watching this 2024 with my old Sony trinitron at 1280 x 960 and 85hz. just swapped from my main 165hz monitor and i can tell that 165hz LCD has never been smoother than this 85hz CRT. if i could get my hands on something like even 21" CRT, i propably stick with that as long as it has time left

  • @NandR
    @NandR Рік тому +2

    Looks great. But I think this is 1440i not 1440p. The i stands for interlaced.

  • @Dave4000
    @Dave4000 2 роки тому +1

    Can you still download and install the monitor "driver", either as an installer or just the .icc, .icm (or .inf) files?

    • @idkrossplay
      @idkrossplay Рік тому

      not on windows 10 but it won't make a difference anyways

  • @copper4eva
    @copper4eva 4 роки тому +27

    If you want, you can buy an older gtx card (like a 900 series or whatever) that has analog out. And if you have two pci express slots on your motherboard, you can run it together with your 1080 Ti. Like, your 1080 Ti will still be doing all the work, the 900 series will literally just be outputting analog for you. Basically an over glorified digital to analog converter. You can get an older Nvidia pretty cheap of course.
    That CRT is a beast. You can definitely get higher refresh rates with an analog connection rather than your hdmi converter. I was able to get 1280x1024@137Hz, and my CRT ain't half what yours is. I wish I could get once like yours, that thing is a beast. These things can be overclocked.
    ua-cam.com/video/Ya3c1Ni4B_U/v-deo.html
    This dude got his running at 2496x1872@60Hz. Completely insane what some of these things can do.

    • @webb4158
      @webb4158 4 роки тому +2

      Is that a Nvidia only thing or will it work with AMD too? I couldn't find any info online about it.

    • @copper4eva
      @copper4eva 4 роки тому +4

      @@webb4158
      Funny you should ask, on the crtgaming reddit somebody said in the comments that they had done it with AMD graphics cards. So, if he is to be believed, then yes, you can.
      It really works rather well, if you have a desktop that can support it obviously. You might have trouble getting the OS you use to figure out that you have two GPU's, but once you do, then you're good.

    • @syk9309
      @syk9309 4 роки тому

      Бро, спасибо за совет, надо самому попробовать. Спасибо ещё раз и удачи =)

    • @copper4eva
      @copper4eva 4 роки тому +1

      @Big Smoke
      I have a 5 monitor setup with a 960 GTX and 1060 GTX. So multiple monitors are fine.
      Only one analog out though sadly. I guess you'll have to look at older cards, which might have multiple analog outputs, but I'm not sure.

    • @juanme555
      @juanme555 4 роки тому

      @@copper4eva how do you do that

  • @zuffin1864
    @zuffin1864 Рік тому +1

    Best my monitor can do is 762p at 110hz, but i still love it :)

  • @oathanrex
    @oathanrex 3 роки тому

    I am using crt moniter without graphic card its working fine even gta 5 too but when i use my 1050ti its start flickering , close and open screen , how i can solve this?

  • @gabrielv.4358
    @gabrielv.4358 Рік тому +3

    I thought only SONY Trinitron's had HD CRT's. Wow.
    Edit: I thought that 1440p 120hz was a 2020+ thing they had invented. Cool to know it was already available waay back in time.

  • @hotf1ght3r93
    @hotf1ght3r93 3 роки тому

    Have u try higher refresh rate in 1600*1200?

  • @josephdias5859
    @josephdias5859 Рік тому

    they need to make 4k crts now

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  Рік тому

      hopefully OLEDs are going in that direction. My LG C1 does black frame insertion which can bring help with motion clarity, but the C2 doesnt even have the feature so idk what they are doing.

  • @zsombor_99
    @zsombor_99 4 роки тому +10

    Eh, I don't want much, so I using my monitors in 1024×768 @ 70Hz refresh rate. 😊

  • @analogcaptures2785
    @analogcaptures2785 3 роки тому

    How do you play Steam games in interlaced resolutions? My steam games only show progressive resolutions in the in game settings.

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 роки тому

      it should be something graphics card / monitor setting specific not steam

  • @kiritoxfps
    @kiritoxfps 3 роки тому +3

    I have an amd rx 480 8 gb with my crt monitor 1360x768 160 hz,i use cru(custom resolution utility) because it let me choose fullscreen in games ;)

  • @RavenWinify
    @RavenWinify 3 роки тому

    i had to check and see if this was an april fools joke

  • @foxdavion6865
    @foxdavion6865 2 роки тому +3

    The main downside is they use VGA or in the case of the high end models with crazy resolutions - DVI. Which are formats which have both been discontinued; Thankfully, as you said because they interlace differently, using a converter doesn't impact the video quality. We're talking interlaced VGA and DVI here which translates crisper than even Analog RGB - not something like composite. Yeah with this sort of stuff it's all analog, we're talking wave signals here, not digital LCD pixel signals.

  • @retrosimon9843
    @retrosimon9843 Рік тому +1

    Fun fact. Widescreen 1440 adds 547,200 pixels per side.

  • @sphericmystifiedaberration9469
    @sphericmystifiedaberration9469 7 місяців тому

    My monitor can do 800x600 120 hertz / 1024x768 100 hertz / 1366x768 86 hertz / 1920x1080 60 hertz and many other cuztomized resolutions but those are the ones i mostly use... motion clarity is at another level if compared to LCD, LED,OLED... that said, i must confess i prefer using LED over CRT because of the flickering, it's so hard on the eyes that it makes you want go running back to LED,/LCD- IPS.

  • @joman104
    @joman104 3 роки тому

    my CRT(dell-m781s) can do 1600 by 900 at 150i

  • @dimitrilensflareabrams2893
    @dimitrilensflareabrams2893 3 роки тому

    Wait so is there a qxga monitor out there??
    Thats 2048 by 1536

  • @zuubu
    @zuubu 3 роки тому

    What’s the con of using interlaced? I’m going to use a similar monitor to play CS, and with interlaced, it can go to MUCH higher refresh rates, but I can’t test how it looks like yet because my adapter didn’t arrive.

    • @madslentoft6682
      @madslentoft6682 3 роки тому

      Interlaced means that only every second row will be updated every frame. Going from progressive to interlaced can double your frame rate, but it looks horrible with horizontal movement.

    • @compuguy123
      @compuguy123 3 роки тому

      Interlaced 16001200 looks absolutely insane on csgo, and as well as 1080p 16:9 on it.

  • @alithebot1753
    @alithebot1753 3 роки тому +1

    I do have a crt monitor its horizontal refresh rate is 70KHz and vertical refresh rate is 140hz which res sould i use to get 120Hz pls reply*

    • @AugustoV8Cesar
      @AugustoV8Cesar 3 роки тому

      just decrease the resolution and test. 640x480p should be the optimal, or try 1024x768

  • @mrwang420
    @mrwang420 2 роки тому

    It's 1800x1440 because it is 4:3 aspect.

  • @gabrielv.4358
    @gabrielv.4358 2 місяці тому

    I WISH SOMEONE MADE A 4K CRT MONITOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ITS NOT IMPOSSIBLE!

  • @saleemnasir2k
    @saleemnasir2k 2 роки тому

    I can run 1920x1440 on my dell m992(96khz) to 1920x1440 120hz interlaced

  • @GERALD_786
    @GERALD_786 Рік тому

    when crt monitors have better resolution and refresh rate than your lcd screen:

  •  3 роки тому

    I could never go back to a CRT as I have no room for it and my eyes are getting quite bad so a 21" monitor is too tiny for my eyes. Even my 43" is a little too small. I am on the hunt for a 60", but they are too expensive at the moment. But, I am glad you are happy with yours.

  • @StasonST19
    @StasonST19 10 місяців тому

  • @tim-linssen
    @tim-linssen 3 роки тому

    Brhu think of the ppi and then say it again on a phone is a lower resolution but more picsel per inch

  • @beamboy07
    @beamboy07 Рік тому

    Better than led thjs is

  • @User_3303_
    @User_3303_ 3 роки тому +1

    Xbox series x will only support up to 120hz and was wondering if a CRT is faster than a 240hz monitor when both are at 120hz. Would the 240hz still on 120hz outspeed a CRT at 120hz? I know for sure the 240hz at 240hz is faster but was wondering this since I’m buying a monitor for Xbox series x.

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 роки тому

      i would go with the 240hz monitor

    • @User_3303_
      @User_3303_ 3 роки тому

      @@laserfights is the 240hz faster than CRT at 120hz?

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 роки тому

      @@User_3303_ there are lots of factors with things like ghosting, response time, and etc that aren't accounted for via refresh rate numbers like 240hz and 120hz. If you are buying a decent 240hz monitor, then I would think it would be much easier to have support for newer games, and I would recommend going with something newer based on that alone.

  • @cjbrown2922
    @cjbrown2922 Рік тому

    Mine reached that limit but when i select the 120 hetz it say swithc back :the screen to 85 hertz is it my gpu or idk

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  Рік тому

      i would try messing with different resolutions as well as refresh rates and see what combinations you can get.
      generally speaking, lower resolution should let you push a higher frame rate. and a higher resolution will give you a lower frame rate.
      if your lower resolutions are all trying to go to 120 hz but swapping to 85, id think it would be your gpu or at least a setting with it

  • @pawetrybus9464
    @pawetrybus9464 2 роки тому

    powerstrip ... that was program! try it and u love it ... dedicated for CRT

  • @dezolatestation
    @dezolatestation 3 роки тому +1

    if i use dvi to vga convert,, how significant change the input lag? , coz i heard the crt are op for fps games

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 роки тому +1

      if you are doing analog to analog i dont think there should be any lag

    • @TheEVGAftw
      @TheEVGAftw 3 роки тому

      Shit was i limiting myself with hdmi to vga. And of course my analog 980ti broke

    • @zuubu
      @zuubu 3 роки тому

      @@TheEVGAftw so what you’re using now? My monitor is VGA, should I buy an hdmi adapter?

  • @branchprediction9923
    @branchprediction9923 4 роки тому +3

    8:50 how interesting! My oled phone is 60hz and i overclocked it to 82hz and everything from grey to near black has a green tint now. And the more i decrease the brightness the more green it will look. Exactly like at 8:50! Very interesting. Im typing this right now at 82hz and my grey keyboard looks grey green haha. There is also a lot of banding and black crush when brightness is reduced. I dont know why oled behaves like this.

    • @IAm-zo1bo
      @IAm-zo1bo 3 роки тому

      Imo that's stupid cuz 60hz is enough for a phone and i would rather not make the oled quality worse

    • @branchprediction9923
      @branchprediction9923 3 роки тому

      @@IAm-zo1bo im not using 82hz anymore of course, it was just a test, 82hz is definitely good and noticable but the side effects are too big. It seems oled has problems with green tint and black crush at higher frequencies, even the on the one plus 8 pro 1080p 120hz oled screen, there have been some reports of green tint. Very interestinf to me why this happens, looks like some panels get this green tint when oced and some dont and that one plus had to 'bin' panels for their flagship phone.

    • @branchprediction9923
      @branchprediction9923 3 роки тому

      @@IAm-zo1bo "60hz enough for phone" yes for u it might be but not everyone is like u, some of us know arent ignorant and do notice the sample and hold blur.

    • @nik4520
      @nik4520 3 роки тому +2

      @@IAm-zo1bo they make higher refresh rate phones for a reason... 90Hz is becoming the new standard for touch devices

    • @Blox117
      @Blox117 3 роки тому

      how are you overclocking your phone display?

  • @DanielGomez-bp6be
    @DanielGomez-bp6be 3 роки тому

    How do u do it

  • @mr.electronx9036
    @mr.electronx9036 Рік тому +1

    this "green" stuff is bad RGB signal.
    change to YCbCr444 in your nvidia setting and safe 😉

  • @aerton091
    @aerton091 Рік тому

    No matter what I do, after reseting my PC, the black screen pops up. I've tried everything and it doesn't seem to be working. GTX 750ti via VGA. Samsung 19", that's 160hz capable. Watched various tutorials on how to set interlaced, followed it step by step, but it always fails in the same manner. What could I be doing wrong, any idea?

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  Рік тому +1

      i actually don’t normally use mine in interlaced, so unfortunately im not really much help. how old are the tutorials? i remember reading that nvidia did some weird stuff with interlaced awhile ago

    • @wickedstudios7477
      @wickedstudios7477 Рік тому +1

      try low resolution progressive, something like 640x480@160hz using the cvt timing preset. im assuming you have something like a 955df and it should be able to do that

    • @wickedstudios7477
      @wickedstudios7477 Рік тому +1

      modern versions of windows and nvidia drivers also hate outputing interlaced signals, it could also be that youre trying to run a resoluton that is too high for ur gpus pixel clock (unlikely but not impossible)

  • @GunduyVlogs
    @GunduyVlogs 4 роки тому +1

    How bout the botton below the monitor to adjust the screen

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  4 роки тому +1

      i have to re-adjust the screen every time i change the resolution on the monitor and sometimes i forget haha

    • @bigalejoshileno
      @bigalejoshileno 4 роки тому

      @@laserfights some timing combinations cannot be handled by digital tuned monitors. In that case, manual adjusting of the timing coming from video card would be needed

  • @andykillsu
    @andykillsu 4 роки тому +2

    Oh boy 720p high refresh rate, or slightly higher than 1080p 73 Hz ganging, just what I needed in a curved display that weights 20 lbs!

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  4 роки тому +1

      ill have you know this actually weighs 59.52 lbs

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  4 роки тому +2

      it's my favorite part of my home gym

  • @JaimeRosario884
    @JaimeRosario884 2 роки тому

    I know this is an old video, but, just in case this monitor is still alive, I tried raising the refresh rate on an old CRT monitor to 90hz, 800p resolution. After a couple seconds the screen went black and the monitor started to smell like it was burning XD. So yeah, it died

  • @Pe721
    @Pe721 3 роки тому

    use cru tool to do even higher hz

  • @hitka488
    @hitka488 3 роки тому

    Will this work on a Wipro CRT (I mean is it good for all CRTs ??)

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 роки тому

      The quality of the CRT will affect what the max refresh rate and resolution will be

    • @hitka488
      @hitka488 3 роки тому

      @@laserfights k Thanks

  • @thedrbat9572
    @thedrbat9572 3 роки тому +2

    How do you even get a CRT monitor in 2020? I had one from 2007-2011 but I didn't realize at that time that the LCDs arent as good :(

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 роки тому +1

      I just never got rid of this one. you can keep an eye out on the used market but honestly it's hard to get one without paying a ton

    • @thedrbat9572
      @thedrbat9572 3 роки тому

      @@laserfights oh thanks

    • @catorb6607
      @catorb6607 3 роки тому

      r/crtgaming, find a listing in your area.

    • @thedrbat9572
      @thedrbat9572 3 роки тому

      @@catorb6607 my area probably doesn't have one. i live in a small town and the closest electronics store is an hour away

    • @catorb6607
      @catorb6607 3 роки тому +1

      @@thedrbat9572 thats probably true then. I live in nowhere Missouri and I had to meet some guy at a mall 2 hours away from my house. But now i have a 1440p CRT!!! Priorities

  • @phil_matic
    @phil_matic 3 роки тому

    So to use these, I assume you're using some sort of adapter? is it HDMI to VGA? or Displayport to VGA?

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 роки тому +1

      im using hdmi to vga for this video, but im going to make another video soon on a displayport to vga adapter

    • @phil_matic
      @phil_matic 3 роки тому

      @@laserfights ok... i'm just wondering which adapter produces better results

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 роки тому

      @@phil_matic the one im using in the video isnt very good, i mean it works but i cant push it very far

    • @phil_matic
      @phil_matic 3 роки тому

      @@laserfights it's hard to see from the video, but how does it compare? is it worth the hunt for these monitors? CRT monitors are pretty much impossible to find, where i'm at

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 роки тому

      @@phil_matic in terms of cost effectiveness, a cheap hdmi to vga adapter is pretty good. the other adapter im testing is like $100.
      You also don't need a better adapter if you have a crt monitor that you cant push very far. This monitor is pretty good quality so I can do a lot with it, but if you are having trouble finding one at all then you might not get one as nice.
      I enjoy having my crts, but I never would have bought them online and had them shipped to me, because shipping these huge things is expensive. I would just check around craigslist and facebook marketplace from time to time and see what you can find.
      If you have any more questions about it, I'm down to make an entire video about things like when you should get a crt or what crts are great for or etc.

  • @tiporari
    @tiporari 4 роки тому +2

    You people realize that refresh rate and resolution are two unrelated terms right? 1440p refers to a vertical resolution of 1440 pixels and P indicates non-interlaced. Has NOTHING to do with refresh rate.
    Vertical and horizontal refresh rates are independent of resolution. CRT's had higher refresh rates than LCD and TFT displays for decades. They have a shorter signal chain from frame buffer to glowing pixel than even the best TFT's, OLED's, quantum dots or USB dildos.

    • @conceptofeverything8793
      @conceptofeverything8793 Рік тому

      Well, essentially approaching the speed of light, limited by the mass of an electron.
      There were this unreleased piece of technology that essentially had multiple electron guns shooting at the anodes, given proper cooling and modern nanotechnology, likely would exceed all needs of a gamer.
      Could mod an old CRT, attach a peltier device to the cathode (or come up with a cooling system to keep all of it cool) and hack through some of these OEM failsafes to get 500Hz out of it.
      But yeah, they're kinda right about frames per second given it's linear rendering.

  • @Simone-qr6mq
    @Simone-qr6mq 3 роки тому

    Is it a good idea to replace an LCD monitor with a CRT one for non-gaming related purposes?

    • @sergeantbananiel3438
      @sergeantbananiel3438 3 роки тому

      Hell no

    • @ogsleepdealer
      @ogsleepdealer 3 роки тому +2

      Only if you're doing stuff like watching older shows, cartoons, movies, etc. Doing video editing/audio editing on one is not fun

    • @laserfights
      @laserfights  3 роки тому +2

      if you are alright with the different aspect ratio then yeah sure it has plenty of resolution just be careful about what you get and check the specs

    • @TheRealJohnHooper
      @TheRealJohnHooper 3 роки тому +1

      Do whatever you like.. Gaming on a CRT is incredible good..

    • @alpzepta
      @alpzepta 2 роки тому

      @@ogsleepdealer video editing might be benefit a crt if you do color correcting