No, I argue it isn't a mistake, because kaajaks has one major thing over derke. He has a far stronger champion pool, whereas derke could only play Jett and raze to a top duelist level. Kaajak can play raze and Jett competently, ON TOP of that he can play yoru far better then derke (Derke's yoru is fine, but it's not a meteor/kaajak level yoru play.) and kaajak can play neon
Look I’m from NA no bias. I think there may be an overreaction to FNATIC. I think kayak has a lot of potential, and by the time vct comes around I think they’ll have everything ironed out. To me it looked like they were experimenting and also not having Leo is a huge nerf.
Yeah, we gotta remember that this lad kaajak, who's just been traded off of his ascension team that he played with at length, has gotta fill a duelist role on one of the most storied teams in the eSport, when the guy he's replaced has had years of team synergy with the squad kaajak's now playing with. And being a 16-year-old substitute on a (the) EMEA superteam, for the individual that many consider to be the best initiator to ever do it? Yeah no thanks, I think anyone would have a hard time adjusting to a situation like that at his age, lets be real
Dude as a fnc so a little bias but how they good enough to win the regionals twice beating fut and heretics in those finals and than make a somewhat deep run in champs but winning a game in a off season tournament is just out of the picture
@@arcetusLook at Fnatic’s 2024 placements and tell me it wasn’t a disappointment. Didnt qual for Madrid,bombed out of Shanghai and had a good 5-6th performance at Champions. Most considered them to be contenders going into 2024 since all the top 3 Champions teams in 2023 broke apart but they only had 1 top 6 tournament. Now their 2nd best player is gone and we don’t know when their best is coming back(Leo) definitely reasons to worry
Dont care as long as they're playing with a 16yo sub and experimenting with their roles... If anything it's worrying that they cant practise with their full roster yet which means they could be behind the curve again when the new season starts
funniest thing was Alfajer failed to blast pack backsite on B Bind which severely put him out of position. I know alfajer is a great shooter but Derke was so much better on movement and entry
@ No I didn’t forget that, That whole chamber meta forced a bunch of primary duelist on Chamber since it was just a better pick. Cryo, Yay, Aspas were all playing chamber. Alfajer ain’t a bad player, He has superb aim like no other but if i’m picking who’s gonna entry onto site and at least get a kill in a terrible scenario. I’m picking Derke over alfajer. It’s why you see alfajer playing secondary duelist/Sentinal, Cause derke is usually traded by alfajer, and alfajer with that good aim can clutch stupid scenarios. I don’t really want to throw a potential clutch X factor straight into his own demise by entrying. And Derke being the primary duelist makes it really important that his movement is good so he doesn’t just die. Entrying is more about breaking through a defense without giving up your life
After SEN had won Masters Madrid, on a stream, Boaster had said that the best raze players in the world are Zekken, Jingg and Alfa. FNC might be serious about the Alfa Raze.
they really need leo back, cyz kaajak has the potential to replace derke but leo was literally doing insane numbers on initiator and cant really be replaced by any good pro initiator.
They won EMEA stage 2 without Leo though, and got to 5th place in champs, which is only one less place than champs last year. Albeit that was with hiro (why didn’t they keep him, the synergy was so good?), not Sayonara so eh. Plus, theoretically Leo will be back for VCT so this squad is just a fun jaunt in the park.
derke is the sole reason gambit didnt qualify lol bro dropped 40+ on the last map of split hes been the consistent rock of fnatic and why they dominated eu back then and a key part of them winning international events
I think boaster could be having a difficult time microing sayonara and kajaak, they don’t know when to start thinking for themselves. Brothers got lost in the sauce
I didn't see any thing of this map like just one round or 2 but why kajaak the supposed duelist is on gekko that he has never palyed in pro and alafajet on raze.... Like why would htey pick up an insane duelist rookie from tier 2 for subbing your duelist if you don't put him on it
@@raph3170Alfa played Raze literally his debut game with FNC, and got an ace. He’s an incredible raze, but he was put on sentinel cause Derke played raze a lot. Love to see Alfa back on duelist, cause he just doesn’t like playing sentinel.
And people say boaster is the best igl of all time? Imagine being handed this much talent and still struggling this much. Replace boaster with FNS and fnatic isn't losing a single map
I man FNC would be nothing without boaster. His IGLing is what won them back to back international trophies, Red Bull home ground last year, and both regional.
I mean the role switcheroo is so Alfa can play what he likes (duelist), and everyone else is just adjusting to playing together. Plus, it’s an off season only roster, so there’s not much to speculate over.
2 mins in and we already heard why there is prob. Nothing to be worried about. We played with Sub (absolutely not flaming sayonara here, but its just not Leo), we tryout new strategies and we played with kaajak (and Sayonara) the first "tournament" after what 1 Month together? (Yes C9 also had new members, i don't want to use it as an excuse, a 10:3 lead should be manageable to win^^) Leo will be back for 2025, Kaajak and Alfa had some more time to figure out what and how they wanna play and overall the gameplay will lvl-up again. We´ll see a powerhouse of FNC in VCT 2025 with some new blood :D
It's so weird to see fnatic without derke on dualist
Yes derke is a crazy dualist
Ye, Derke is such a great dualip
Kajaak trying to plant with no spike was hilarious 😂😂
KEKW
Yes letting Derke, a top 3 duelist in the world leave/kicking him was indeed a mistake
money dosent come from nowhere
@@akmuchbetter9782 yeah but we're talking about DERKE
No, I argue it isn't a mistake, because kaajaks has one major thing over derke. He has a far stronger champion pool, whereas derke could only play Jett and raze to a top duelist level. Kaajak can play raze and Jett competently, ON TOP of that he can play yoru far better then derke (Derke's yoru is fine, but it's not a meteor/kaajak level yoru play.) and kaajak can play neon
@@raqeebahmed1452 yeah and we're talking abt money made from selling him
@@tekstego9654 bruh derke is sorta known for his yoru which he plays a lot of
Look I’m from NA no bias. I think there may be an overreaction to FNATIC. I think kayak has a lot of potential, and by the time vct comes around I think they’ll have everything ironed out. To me it looked like they were experimenting and also not having Leo is a huge nerf.
Yeah, we gotta remember that this lad kaajak, who's just been traded off of his ascension team that he played with at length, has gotta fill a duelist role on one of the most storied teams in the eSport, when the guy he's replaced has had years of team synergy with the squad kaajak's now playing with.
And being a 16-year-old substitute on a (the) EMEA superteam, for the individual that many consider to be the best initiator to ever do it? Yeah no thanks, I think anyone would have a hard time adjusting to a situation like that at his age, lets be real
Dude as a fnc so a little bias but how they good enough to win the regionals twice beating fut and heretics in those finals and than make a somewhat deep run in champs but winning a game in a off season tournament is just out of the picture
@@arcetusLook at Fnatic’s 2024 placements and tell me it wasn’t a disappointment.
Didnt qual for Madrid,bombed out of Shanghai and had a good 5-6th performance at Champions. Most considered them to be contenders going into 2024 since all the top 3 Champions teams in 2023 broke apart but they only had 1 top 6 tournament. Now their 2nd best player is gone and we don’t know when their best is coming back(Leo) definitely reasons to worry
no geopolitical intro today😭
what?
Dont care as long as they're playing with a 16yo sub and experimenting with their roles...
If anything it's worrying that they cant practise with their full roster yet which means they could be behind the curve again when the new season starts
funniest thing was Alfajer failed to blast pack backsite on B Bind which severely put him out of position. I know alfajer is a great shooter but Derke was so much better on movement and entry
Dude he played raze and Derke used to play chamber did u forget that.
@ No I didn’t forget that, That whole chamber meta forced a bunch of primary duelist on Chamber since it was just a better pick. Cryo, Yay, Aspas were all playing chamber.
Alfajer ain’t a bad player, He has superb aim like no other but if i’m picking who’s gonna entry onto site and at least get a kill in a terrible scenario. I’m picking Derke over alfajer.
It’s why you see alfajer playing secondary duelist/Sentinal, Cause derke is usually traded by alfajer, and alfajer with that good aim can clutch stupid scenarios. I don’t really want to throw a potential clutch X factor straight into his own demise by entrying.
And Derke being the primary duelist makes it really important that his movement is good so he doesn’t just die. Entrying is more about breaking through a defense without giving up your life
After SEN had won Masters Madrid, on a stream, Boaster had said that the best raze players in the world are Zekken, Jingg and Alfa. FNC might be serious about the Alfa Raze.
they really need leo back, cyz kaajak has the potential to replace derke but leo was literally doing insane numbers on initiator and cant really be replaced by any good pro initiator.
They won EMEA stage 2 without Leo though, and got to 5th place in champs, which is only one less place than champs last year. Albeit that was with hiro (why didn’t they keep him, the synergy was so good?), not Sayonara so eh.
Plus, theoretically Leo will be back for VCT so this squad is just a fun jaunt in the park.
Nah kaajak is overrated he is not even close to derke's level
@@birthcita never did i say that, i just said he has the potential
If somebody blames kaajak for this map, just imagine how derke would play as gekko
they wouldn't put derke on gekko
@@zorev7925thats the point
@@zorev7925you might not be the sharpest tool in the box
@@emandoesit28 sorry me bad english
@@_JarXeth_ exactly thx I don't know why but why they pick kajaak if it's to not put him on what he is supposed to play.
As a fnc it’s sad to see them lose in this way the c9 the comeback was just hard to watch and than the beat down from g2 was even worse
derke is the sole reason gambit didnt qualify lol bro dropped 40+ on the last map of split hes been the consistent rock of fnatic and why they dominated eu back then and a key part of them winning international events
I think boaster could be having a difficult time microing sayonara and kajaak, they don’t know when to start thinking for themselves. Brothers got lost in the sauce
1. Pick up duelist
2. Put him on initiator
3. Get slapped 😂
kaajak trying to plant without spike genuinely made me laugh out loud 😭😭 glad to know even pro players make mistakes like there
kajaak needs to go bald
everyone agrees
Even I agree needs bald buff
w take
Bro gotta hire demon1's 2023 barber
You are the man of solution
Ending on “oh it’s absolute misery!!!” was a wonderful touch hahahahah
Lets hold our thoughts until the season starts and Leo is (hopefully) here
I didn't see any thing of this map like just one round or 2 but why kajaak the supposed duelist is on gekko that he has never palyed in pro and alafajet on raze.... Like why would htey pick up an insane duelist rookie from tier 2 for subbing your duelist if you don't put him on it
he played gekko on apeks
@hori1k yeah but it's not like he is a crazy ini main, if you really wanna use his potential you let him on duelist
@@raph3170Alfa played Raze literally his debut game with FNC, and got an ace. He’s an incredible raze, but he was put on sentinel cause Derke played raze a lot.
Love to see Alfa back on duelist, cause he just doesn’t like playing sentinel.
@@cloudyskyz2237 yeah but like I said above why picking kajaak if you are not using him as you should
And people say boaster is the best igl of all time? Imagine being handed this much talent and still struggling this much. Replace boaster with FNS and fnatic isn't losing a single map
Finally, I was waiting for this when you called FNC "dogshit'' and Boaster an idiot on stream❤
Someone need to go bald and get that bald buff back
is that circus music in the background
Let’s nust wait for Leo’s return. Sayonara is not ready yet
Kicking derke and keeping boaster is crazy ngl
I man FNC would be nothing without boaster. His IGLing is what won them back to back international trophies, Red Bull home ground last year, and both regional.
Struggling on gekko is no excuse
Alfajer should just play flex and let the actual duelist play tbh.
BRO THE MUSIC
I think it's just a honeymoon phase + they're saving strats like against TL (major cope but shut up)
i love it when tmv doom posts
Maybe it's Mini?
Why is derke in black and white? What happened to bro? 😢😭
yellow black yellow black yellow black yellow black. Black and yellow! lets shake it up a little.
@thickwood8785 so true brother
idk ... they played without leo .. so all good
wheres the monthly anti-SEN video mr tmv i'm tryna watch the d1 hatecamp >:(
the haters won't like this one
they had a sub so whats the matter?
yo i can buy you a new headset if u want
I mean the role switcheroo is so Alfa can play what he likes (duelist), and everyone else is just adjusting to playing together. Plus, it’s an off season only roster, so there’s not much to speculate over.
2 mins in and we already heard why there is prob. Nothing to be worried about. We played with Sub (absolutely not flaming sayonara here, but its just not Leo), we tryout new strategies and we played with kaajak (and Sayonara) the first "tournament" after what 1 Month together? (Yes C9 also had new members, i don't want to use it as an excuse, a 10:3 lead should be manageable to win^^)
Leo will be back for 2025, Kaajak and Alfa had some more time to figure out what and how they wanna play and overall the gameplay will lvl-up again. We´ll see a powerhouse of FNC in VCT 2025 with some new blood :D
yeah keep smoking weed
lmao
dont think so, without derke fnatic should build a team around chron or let chron leave,
fnatic playing like bronze fr
its time we start doomposting about a VCT team in the offseason - TMV probably
TMV the FNC fan boy in shambles over making this video
fnatic, more like badnatic xdddddd
derke washed😂
his not even on the team
its like he wasnt even playing, really disappointing performance out of him
He looked invisible during this entire tournament smh.
@@avrajsokhi4163 John Cena cosplay
Derke had the highest average acs in vct champs this year...
Relax man . They were playing with sayonara , a 16 yo rookie .