Especially when we've seen that very "hero" run out of the room crying. Upset at the fact that, for the (supposedly) first time, he felt pain. To me, that is no hero; that's a coward
Yeah, Megamind was a much more optimistic take on the "supervillain questioning his role" story. The main difference was that Metro Man had those same doubts behind his arrogant facade, while Hammer really was a jerk. Basically the personality of the hero determined how the villain ended up (Megamind became loved and a hero, Horrible became miserable as he sunk deeper into villainy).
@@libRteedude And Megamind had two "heroes": the actually quite good one who bowed out [possibly because he realized he was wasting his time fighting someone who had a good heart and was just playing evil?] and the replacement who was a pretty obvious fake. It didn't all depend on the hero either: Megamind started out in the role of "maximally villainous" and learned during the story that he was free to leave that role. Dr. Horrible was very aware of his good qualities, and was consciously _working toward_ that villain role. (And you can see that Dr. Horrible is still very far from ceasing to be a good person at heart, but the ending promises that his commitment to the "evil" role means that things will keep getting worse for him for the foreseeable future.)
This is very sad but the horse part gets me every single time... I can't help it, it's so funny how they show all these evil bad guys and then the horse.
It funny cause it's exactly what they said it was, he's bad horse the thoroughbred of sin, but until that point I never thought it would be an actual horse
It's technically both. The empty part is that he defeated Captain Hammer. But it wasn't by his own hand but a major fluke. Hammer pulled the trigger on his faulty weapon. The pyrthic side that Billy defeated Captain Hammer and became a member of the Evil League of Evil. But it cost him the women he loved who was his everything. Once all the blame fell upon him Billy became no more and officialy becomes Dr Horrible.
Just another thought, it's very evident that many of these lyrics can be taken in several different ways. When Horrible says "now the nightmare's real, now Dr. Horrible is here" it's almost as if he's talking about his nightmare. I know that "everything he ever wanted" was to get into the ELE, but deep down, Billy was a good guy. And Penny- a good girl. She was in reality the one thing keeping him good and not fully going evil. At any point he could've killed someone and gotten into the League, but didn't. When Penny dies, that last thread of good in him is severed. And, while Billy 'leaves' Dr. Horrible is fully here. Making him fully evil, and thus His own nightmare a reality. Just a thought.
I actually think that the most prominent example of this are the opening lines: "here lies everything, the world I wanted at my feet". Was the world he referred to really the ELE, or was Penny, now lying at his feet, his everything and the world he wanted?
Billy is still there. At least, I think so. But Billy is utterly defeated, crushed and wrung out for everything he has, all the once-vast goodness in his heart. So he tries the other thing he's good at; being Dr. Horrible. He's a supervillain whose mask has become their face, doing what he knows how to do because that's all he has left for him. Billy is still in there, he just can't do anything but sit in his head and watch what happens next. He isn't even watching his world unravel- that already happened.
Except you're forgetting that like with pie there is a bottom flakey layer underneath the second layer. Billy is still there down under doctor horrible. In pain.
Whoever wrote this song is a genius. The riff from 2:02 to 2:19 is the same as Brand New Day, aka the song where Billy made the decision to kill Captain Hammer. This song is straight up saying to Billy "Careful what you wish for."
Definitely my favorite part. I'm a big fan of progressive music, and bands like Dream Theater (or way back, Pink Floyd) would do this sometime, return to a melody introduced in another song. It feels like a reward for the listener, carrying you back to a prior feeling. That part of the story coming back again; it was real and it informs where we are now. That sort of sensation of recurrence.
Yep, that was consistent. It was Horrible who was worried about Penny almost being hit by a van, about her feelings, about her as a person. Captain Hammer was only interested in the weird stuff and getting more credit and glory for helping the homeless. The supervillain was the one who cared and the superhero was the one who was selfish and egocentric.
The moment the reporter says " Dr. Horrible, why did you kill her", and Billy looks up 0:24-0:27, His eyes. The dark line under them and his "realization". So Sad :(. I love this movie so much.
I feel that what made Billy snap isn't Penny dying but rather that even in her last moments she didn't see him as he was but that his archenemy was her savior...
Maybe. I think that at least contributed a lot. I wonder how this syncs with the line where he says he doesn’t want penny to witness him killing Captain Hammer, though.
If you listen to the lyrics, it's not that at all. It's the fact that his victory is hollow without Penny. He even went into detail in the first song about how he wanted to share the world with her when he won.
Bloodstained Dr. Horrible is an awesome visual that cosplayers sleep on too often.... So fucking cool! Red smock, black gloves. "Now the nightmare's real! Now Doctor Horrible is HERE!"
I was thinking about this movie, and something occurred to me. I think this tragedy was inevitable. If Dr. Horrible succeeded in killing Captain Hammer, Penny wouldn't be able to forgive him. If Captain Hammer won, well, obviously. And with this, Penny died. But it was inevitable he'd lose Penny if he continued his path. He just would've lost her in a different way.
I agree. There were turning points along the way at which he could have taken a different path (mostly notably the moment when he chose his heist over going back to talk to her again), but this path only led to losing Penny. He deluded himself that "her tears will dry when I hand her the keys to a shiny new Australia" but it's pretty obvious that's just a delusion. Penny liked Billy, she would never have been interested in Dr Horrible.
The way that Billy was looking around right before he started to sing made me so sad. The way he shrinks away from the cameras, how he looked so... lost. Like for a moment he was just a scared child, terrified about what had just happened, and what would happen next.
Dead Bowie. I think the funniest is Bad Horse being literally just a regular looking horse. But otherwise it is Fake Thomas Jefferson who really gets me
The shot near beginning where the camera pulls back as he says "And I am fine" to show just how lonely is is so good. Same with that final shot where he says "a thing". He's so so empty and lonely but at this point he has basically nothing except his villainous ambition.
Watching these when it came out, I really didn’t see this ending coming. Still such a great example of what people can do with a small budget and talent.
@@lukacunningham342dude, they actually did do it for free, as to adhere with strike guidelines at the time, this was a 100% passion project, whedon just has connections
I’d like to discuss the choices of how his coat colour changed from White to red with black gloves. White can be taken as a peaceful and good guy colour and after joining the ELE, his colour changes to red because he fully recognizes himself as a villain with no redemption and the black gloves probably represent how he sees that his hands are tainted with the death of penny.
And if you rewatch Freeze Ray carefully and pay particular attention to what happens at the start of the first chorus ("with my freeze ray I will stop the world")... Foreshadowing! 😂😢
Dr. Horrible's immediate words after Penny's death is his 'victory speech' ontop of a dirge-like song, the words refer both to his conquering the world, what he needed to get into the ELE, as well as losing the true world he wanted (Penny). What he WANTED and what he NEEDED together, thus the phrase 'Everything you ever....' keeping it ambiguous. He lost what he really wanted with Penny and he thought he needed to get into the ELE to win over Penny's heart. Being in the ELE is no longer what he really needs but now he has to go through the motion. When you think about it, the Evil League of Evil could actually all be the good guys in that universe. When you look at their design and names, they all don't seem that threatening at all. Fake Thomas Jefferson? Dead Bowie? Fury Leika? (a bride that was wronged), and a horse. And to me, when Dr. Horrible walks into the room with the members, they seem sympathetic to him, as if they know he just lost a possible love interest over entering the League. Then when you look at Captain Hammer, he's wearing black as opposed to Dr. Horrible's white. His actions are self-absorbed. He even admits that he isn't good. In a certain line right before he uses the death ray, "Give my regards to St. Peter, or whoever does his job BUT in hell," meaning he knows Dr. Horrible will be going to 'heaven' and not himself since he won't be present in heaven to give regards to those that are there. Plus Hammer has no problem pulling the trigger, not even showing sign of the hesitance that Dr. Horrible did just previously.
I think it's more interesting to consider that Hammer doesn't think of himself as bad. He's too self-absorbed to realize he'd be doomed to Hell, or to see any of his behavior as villainous. He truly thinks he's the greatest guy on the planet, and besides, in this world, any nerd is automatically perceived as a villain - so he did his job in making that prediction come true with Billy.
This is what many people don't get about this film. Dr, Horrible didn't get into the ELE because he killed Penny. He got in because he did what no other Supervillain had managed to do: He made Captain Hammer feel Pain.
@@firstpersonwinner7404 I just don't get why your comment was necessary is all lmao. I was just suggesting people read the comic for more information if they wanted to.
I feel like he had to give up one thing in order to get the Another, like to kill Penny so he could join the Evil League Of Evil, and in order to get Penny he would have to leave his carrier behind. This movie is fun but also very tragic, i feel like he is not fully evil. Because at the last shot he seems so sad and regreting that he accidently killed Penny. Still this whole movie Feels more like a begging into some big show or movies perhaps. The first two acts Feels like fun and for a while even the third one, i honestly Thought that it will end up Happily but at the end i was heartbroken and couldnt stop Feeling bad for Billy and knowing that he regrets it, and still hoping that there is some good in him
Agreed! He's not a bad person, he wants to fix society and make the status 'more quo'. Unlike Penny he thinks the only way to do that is take down the system. But because he pursued that rather than actively choose Penny and choose hope, he pursued evil and revenge, he loses his link to hope. He inadvertently causes his own tragedy.
It is a cautionary tale, of what you can loose and what you can become by forgetting who you are and giving into hatred, greed and senseless ambition. He was good, he wanted to change the world for the better but by choosing to forget his morals out of spite and attempt to kill Hammer, he lost it all.
Stupid Joss. Instead of finding the part where we discover Bad Horse is an actual horse ridiculous, I'm too busy balling my eyes out and reeling from shock. Way to go Joss! You created a million billion Horocruxes with all the shattered soul fragments of your fans...
As sad as this is, the reprise of "Brand New Day" as he enters the party always gets me pumped and the anger he shows in the last few lines makes me think he took revenge on the other bad guys, blaming them for Penny's death. Like the instant that door closes, during that cut there is a moment where he activates a death ray and just WASTES everyone else in that room. And Bad Horse explodes right at the end. Still sad, but also a bit of fun.
Sadly, it seems like he gave in to becoming truly evil. Although bad horse and the “evil league of evil” are hilarious, it does show how truly horrible they are-all murderers.
She did! She had her doubts during their relationship in So They Say, and realized he was a truly horrible person during Everyone's A Hero and tried to leave quietly. She was delirious and trying to reassure Billy as she died.
honestly, given a few more years, I know how sad this is, but the fact he's in a white jumper, and how his goggles rumple his brow, NPH can totally play Gordon Ramsey if ever a movie comes out for him.
I think it almost happened around 2012 through the SciFi channel, but I guess plans fell through because Whedon was wrapped up with Marvel stuff. Now I don't think any of these people, except maybe Fillion, will work with Whedon anymore
@@deadaccount1.57 No, Just look at it Buffy had to say goodbye to Angel, Dr. Horrible got everything he ever wanted all it cost him was a Penny, And I'm not sure who Mal's love interest is but I'm sure he had to say goodbye to them.
I prefer tragedies. They give a more intense emotional response. Plus, being someone who struggles to understand romantic love, sadness is more relatable. Familial love is very relatable, but rarely explored in stories like this.
"Captain Hammer will save us" You mean the same Capt. Hammer who just now ran away? Crying like a school kid who dropped his juice box? Sorry Penny, I'd rather put my life in Horrible's hands than that overly-pompous twit of a "hero"
When you’re a vigilante (Horrible) who dismisses a real hero (Penny) because they won’t rage with you against the system (Hammer), you’ll kill the real hero in the crossfire. And a vigilante without heroism is just a villain. NOTE:Penny is the only one who actually does any good in the story. She put up with faking feeling for a guy she didn’t like for the sake of using his powerful social status to create a homeless shelter. PENNY is the only one in the story who actually HELPED PEOPLE. She is the real hero.
@digimbyte In case you havent found out for yourself yet, this is a musical movie made for the internet, directed by Joss Whedon, with Neil Ptarick Harris, Felicia Day, and a couple of others called Dr Horrible's Sing-a-long Blog.
I came here for the dorky goggles... then saw the hot red head from the Guild and i was like... WANT... no seriously is this some internet show like the guild? name?
That "captain hammer will save us" hits you in the gut alright, But I think it be a much stronger impact, if Billy here... Started off has a good guy, then turned evil after he failed winning her heart. Then accidentally killing her, well fighting Hammer. Instead of him already being a villain to begin with, then him accidentally killing her. When we watch this. It'd make his broken state, after this. Even more hearting shattering, to watch.
The "Captain Hammer will save us" line really punches you in the gut, doesn't it?
Especially when we've seen that very "hero" run out of the room crying. Upset at the fact that, for the (supposedly) first time, he felt pain.
To me, that is no hero; that's a coward
+sadlobster1 Thanks Captain Obvious :)
Oh I get it because he punched NPH in the stomach
@@sadlobster1 He's not Captain Hammer... HE'S CAPTAIN TIGHTPANTS!!!
Not harder than that that shrapnel hit penny
This movie is the same premise as Megamind, but the difference is that no one wins.
this is how megamind should've ended or at least megamind not ending up with the girl
Yeah, Megamind was a much more optimistic take on the "supervillain questioning his role" story. The main difference was that Metro Man had those same doubts behind his arrogant facade, while Hammer really was a jerk. Basically the personality of the hero determined how the villain ended up (Megamind became loved and a hero, Horrible became miserable as he sunk deeper into villainy).
"This movie is like Megamind? So what's the difference?" "PRESENTATION!!"
@@libRteedude And Megamind had two "heroes": the actually quite good one who bowed out [possibly because he realized he was wasting his time fighting someone who had a good heart and was just playing evil?] and the replacement who was a pretty obvious fake.
It didn't all depend on the hero either: Megamind started out in the role of "maximally villainous" and learned during the story that he was free to leave that role. Dr. Horrible was very aware of his good qualities, and was consciously _working toward_ that villain role. (And you can see that Dr. Horrible is still very far from ceasing to be a good person at heart, but the ending promises that his commitment to the "evil" role means that things will keep getting worse for him for the foreseeable future.)
This is very sad but the horse part gets me every single time... I can't help it, it's so funny how they show all these evil bad guys and then the horse.
i know this is pretty late but many a person think that about the horse only to be made a mare in the end.
Thats not just a horse. That's Dark Horse, the Thoroughbred of Sin.
edit: Bad Horse! Been reading too many comics lol
@@max_mittler Bad Horse
It funny cause it's exactly what they said it was, he's bad horse the thoroughbred of sin, but until that point I never thought it would be an actual horse
Bad horse, bad horse, bad horse, he's bad!
the actual definition of an empty victory
Its the definition of that wario meme
"I won, but at what cost"
Very true
A pyrrhic victory is the term you are looking for.
@@MrRogueGman No, it's an empty victory.
It's technically both. The empty part is that he defeated Captain Hammer. But it wasn't by his own hand but a major fluke. Hammer pulled the trigger on his faulty weapon.
The pyrthic side that Billy defeated Captain Hammer and became a member of the Evil League of Evil. But it cost him the women he loved who was his everything.
Once all the blame fell upon him Billy became no more and officialy becomes Dr Horrible.
Just another thought, it's very evident that many of these lyrics can be taken in several different ways. When Horrible says "now the nightmare's real, now Dr. Horrible is here" it's almost as if he's talking about his nightmare. I know that "everything he ever wanted" was to get into the ELE, but deep down, Billy was a good guy. And Penny- a good girl. She was in reality the one thing keeping him good and not fully going evil. At any point he could've killed someone and gotten into the League, but didn't. When Penny dies, that last thread of good in him is severed. And, while Billy 'leaves' Dr. Horrible is fully here. Making him fully evil, and thus His own nightmare a reality. Just a thought.
I actually think that the most prominent example of this are the opening lines: "here lies everything, the world I wanted at my feet". Was the world he referred to really the ELE, or was Penny, now lying at his feet, his everything and the world he wanted?
The sequel comic says otherwise.
Billy is still there. At least, I think so. But Billy is utterly defeated, crushed and wrung out for everything he has, all the once-vast goodness in his heart. So he tries the other thing he's good at; being Dr. Horrible. He's a supervillain whose mask has become their face, doing what he knows how to do because that's all he has left for him.
Billy is still in there, he just can't do anything but sit in his head and watch what happens next. He isn't even watching his world unravel- that already happened.
Except you're forgetting that like with pie there is a bottom flakey layer underneath the second layer. Billy is still there down under doctor horrible. In pain.
Don't even get me started on the very first lines, "here lies everything, the world I wanted at my feet"
Whoever wrote this song is a genius. The riff from 2:02 to 2:19 is the same as Brand New Day, aka the song where Billy made the decision to kill Captain Hammer. This song is straight up saying to Billy "Careful what you wish for."
Definitely my favorite part. I'm a big fan of progressive music, and bands like Dream Theater (or way back, Pink Floyd) would do this sometime, return to a melody introduced in another song. It feels like a reward for the listener, carrying you back to a prior feeling. That part of the story coming back again; it was real and it informs where we are now. That sort of sensation of recurrence.
It is also the Bridge from "Bad Horse".
That's called a motif, it's common in musicals and concept albums to recur ideas, themes and characters.
I love Nathan Fillion's crying scene. It doesnt sound like he's even mourning Penny. Just proves that he's a self-centered cowardly jerk 😁
The sequel comic confirms this.
@@themmangobois3530 there's a sequel comic?
@@Kaz70009 yeah it’s online and about 25 pages
He's definitely not mourning Penny. He's crying about how horrible of a sensation 'pain' is.
Yep, that was consistent. It was Horrible who was worried about Penny almost being hit by a van, about her feelings, about her as a person. Captain Hammer was only interested in the weird stuff and getting more credit and glory for helping the homeless. The supervillain was the one who cared and the superhero was the one who was selfish and egocentric.
The moment the reporter says " Dr. Horrible, why did you kill her", and Billy looks up 0:24-0:27, His eyes. The dark line under them and his "realization". So Sad :(. I love this movie so much.
I feel that what made Billy snap isn't Penny dying but rather that even in her last moments she didn't see him as he was but that his archenemy was her savior...
Maybe. I think that at least contributed a lot. I wonder how this syncs with the line where he says he doesn’t want penny to witness him killing Captain Hammer, though.
also, Captain Hammer wasn't able to save her and he might even blame Captain Hammer for her death.
If you listen to the lyrics, it's not that at all. It's the fact that his victory is hollow without Penny. He even went into detail in the first song about how he wanted to share the world with her when he won.
And it was entirely his fault
Bloodstained Dr. Horrible is an awesome visual that cosplayers sleep on too often.... So fucking cool! Red smock, black gloves. "Now the nightmare's real! Now Doctor Horrible is HERE!"
I was thinking about this movie, and something occurred to me.
I think this tragedy was inevitable.
If Dr. Horrible succeeded in killing Captain Hammer, Penny wouldn't be able to forgive him. If Captain Hammer won, well, obviously. And with this, Penny died.
But it was inevitable he'd lose Penny if he continued his path. He just would've lost her in a different way.
I agree. There were turning points along the way at which he could have taken a different path (mostly notably the moment when he chose his heist over going back to talk to her again), but this path only led to losing Penny. He deluded himself that "her tears will dry when I hand her the keys to a shiny new Australia" but it's pretty obvious that's just a delusion. Penny liked Billy, she would never have been interested in Dr Horrible.
Excellent interpretation.
The way that Billy was looking around right before he started to sing made me so sad. The way he shrinks away from the cameras, how he looked so... lost. Like for a moment he was just a scared child, terrified about what had just happened, and what would happen next.
Idk how I never noticed one of the bad guys sitting around the table at the end is literally just David Bowie lmao
That is Dead David Bowie, something utterly evil and inconceivable at the time.
@@StrigExLibris dead David Bowie is real now
maybe a reference to venture bros.?
Dead Bowie. I think the funniest is Bad Horse being literally just a regular looking horse. But otherwise it is Fake Thomas Jefferson who really gets me
Dead Bowie is played here by Jed Whedon, Joss's brother who composed the entire score and was one of the composers of the songs
This song carries such an empty and hollow vibe with me and I love it
The shot near beginning where the camera pulls back as he says "And I am fine" to show just how lonely is is so good. Same with that final shot where he says "a thing".
He's so so empty and lonely but at this point he has basically nothing except his villainous ambition.
Watching these when it came out, I really didn’t see this ending coming. Still such a great example of what people can do with a small budget and talent.
Small budget? They hired top actors! How did you think that got on this role, by being asked politely?
@@lukacunningham342 Yes. Literally. Look it up.
@@lukacunningham342dude, they actually did do it for free, as to adhere with strike guidelines at the time, this was a 100% passion project, whedon just has connections
I’d like to discuss the choices of how his coat colour changed from White to red with black gloves. White can be taken as a peaceful and good guy colour and after joining the ELE, his colour changes to red because he fully recognizes himself as a villain with no redemption and the black gloves probably represent how he sees that his hands are tainted with the death of penny.
His goggles also change to completely NON reflective , black and empty...
@@demonoid7469 That’s a good insight into it, I didn’t notice that before!
It’s worse in the sequel comic with the final pages.
His coat is red because he is now figuratively stained with blood
@@firstpersonwinner7404 yep, that's exactly how I thought it was meant to be interpreted too
The saddest part is the disconnection, the Fact the damage didn't hurt the hammer but just emotionally break him adds to how sad of a world that is.
his face when the reporters are asking him why he killed her - it's just horrible
Yes. Yes it is.
This song gives me chills every time. Powerful statement about how getting what you want sometimes costs you your humanity.
That ending gives me chills every single time.
Adore this song, as well as the whole film.
I agrew
Penny lying dead at his feet, those first two verses surprised me on my second listen.
And if you rewatch Freeze Ray carefully and pay particular attention to what happens at the start of the first chorus ("with my freeze ray I will stop the world")...
Foreshadowing! 😂😢
"To make the whole world *Neil*..."
I apologize.
Glad I looked through the comments before saying the exact same thing.😂
Bruh the fact they didn’t even put her name in the paper is messed up
Bruh. They literally put. "her name" after "what's" in the article
Pyrrhic victory at its finest.
His face at the end always kills me :'(
Dr. Horrible's immediate words after Penny's death is his 'victory speech' ontop of a dirge-like song, the words refer both to his conquering the world, what he needed to get into the ELE, as well as losing the true world he wanted (Penny). What he WANTED and what he NEEDED together, thus the phrase 'Everything you ever....' keeping it ambiguous. He lost what he really wanted with Penny and he thought he needed to get into the ELE to win over Penny's heart. Being in the ELE is no longer what he really needs but now he has to go through the motion.
When you think about it, the Evil League of Evil could actually all be the good guys in that universe. When you look at their design and names, they all don't seem that threatening at all. Fake Thomas Jefferson? Dead Bowie? Fury Leika? (a bride that was wronged), and a horse. And to me, when Dr. Horrible walks into the room with the members, they seem sympathetic to him, as if they know he just lost a possible love interest over entering the League.
Then when you look at Captain Hammer, he's wearing black as opposed to Dr. Horrible's white. His actions are self-absorbed. He even admits that he isn't good. In a certain line right before he uses the death ray, "Give my regards to St. Peter, or whoever does his job BUT in hell," meaning he knows Dr. Horrible will be going to 'heaven' and not himself since he won't be present in heaven to give regards to those that are there. Plus Hammer has no problem pulling the trigger, not even showing sign of the hesitance that Dr. Horrible did just previously.
Hat about Tie-die?
I think it's more interesting to consider that Hammer doesn't think of himself as bad. He's too self-absorbed to realize he'd be doomed to Hell, or to see any of his behavior as villainous. He truly thinks he's the greatest guy on the planet, and besides, in this world, any nerd is automatically perceived as a villain - so he did his job in making that prediction come true with Billy.
Super old comment but I like this. Or that one comment about horrible killing all the villains as he blames them
This is what many people don't get about this film. Dr, Horrible didn't get into the ELE because he killed Penny. He got in because he did what no other Supervillain had managed to do: He made Captain Hammer feel Pain.
God, this went from so funny... to so heartbreaking
"The world I wanted at my feet"
She's at his feet. Oh boy.
Oof you just gave me chills
For anyone that has not read the comic, the characters at the end make more sense with the extra context provided by it!! I recommend it!!
I mean they are all in the credits so I never had many questions. Their names say it all
@@firstpersonwinner7404 ??? ok
Were you extremely confused by who Fake Thomas Jefferson was or what he was about?
@@firstpersonwinner7404 I just don't get why your comment was necessary is all lmao. I was just suggesting people read the comic for more information if they wanted to.
@@ArrestAthens In the end, is any UA-cam comment necessary?
I feel like he had to give up one thing in order to get the Another, like to kill Penny so he could join the Evil League Of Evil, and in order to get Penny he would have to leave his carrier behind. This movie is fun but also very tragic, i feel like he is not fully evil. Because at the last shot he seems so sad and regreting that he accidently killed Penny. Still this whole movie Feels more like a begging into some big show or movies perhaps. The first two acts Feels like fun and for a while even the third one, i honestly Thought that it will end up Happily but at the end i was heartbroken and couldnt stop Feeling bad for Billy and knowing that he regrets it, and still hoping that there is some good in him
Agreed! He's not a bad person, he wants to fix society and make the status 'more quo'. Unlike Penny he thinks the only way to do that is take down the system. But because he pursued that rather than actively choose Penny and choose hope, he pursued evil and revenge, he loses his link to hope. He inadvertently causes his own tragedy.
He didn't kill Penny. Captain Hammer did.
It is a cautionary tale, of what you can loose and what you can become by forgetting who you are and giving into hatred, greed and senseless ambition. He was good, he wanted to change the world for the better but by choosing to forget his morals out of spite and attempt to kill Hammer, he lost it all.
2:02 to 2:19 I would really enjoy if this part (or a similarly sounding part) would be longer. It's kind of frustrating
This whole series has such a Venture Bros feel to it.
Could legit see Moist being Dr. Horrible's #1
Bad Horse is clearly a level 10
Stupid Joss. Instead of finding the part where we discover Bad Horse is an actual horse ridiculous, I'm too busy balling my eyes out and reeling from shock. Way to go Joss! You created a million billion Horocruxes with all the shattered soul fragments of your fans...
this song haunts me to my core. poor billy
God that hit me, I won't feel a thing.
As sad as this is, the reprise of "Brand New Day" as he enters the party always gets me pumped and the anger he shows in the last few lines makes me think he took revenge on the other bad guys, blaming them for Penny's death. Like the instant that door closes, during that cut there is a moment where he activates a death ray and just WASTES everyone else in that room.
And Bad Horse explodes right at the end.
Still sad, but also a bit of fun.
Sadly, it seems like he gave in to becoming truly evil.
Although bad horse and the “evil league of evil” are hilarious, it does show how truly horrible they are-all murderers.
I always thought it was the doors slamming, not bad horse exploding
Nah we see one of the members in that board room alive in the sequel comic.
You’re honestly probably right!
He did seem to be getting ready to put in work.
it looks like he's putting on captain hammer's gloves.
I wish this had a sequel
This song is phenomenal.
Dr horrible walked so The Joker could run
You're right, you're right; I just thought that after seeing Hammer act like such a jerk all through the film, Penny would have learned by now
She did! She had her doubts during their relationship in So They Say, and realized he was a truly horrible person during Everyone's A Hero and tried to leave quietly. She was delirious and trying to reassure Billy as she died.
Despite the fact he sad as fuck, he does look styling
This also accurately describes the final episode (or at least one of the final episodes) of _Better Call Saul_
absolutely need a full song of 2:00-2:20
Isn’t it just Brand New Day without lyrics?
@@keyboardmaster69 Yes! At least, that's the melody. The song itself sounds very different and super cool
OOOOOOOH WAT IS THIS THING IN MY CHEST IT'S RAGING WITH "FEELS"!!!
Nice touch having Bad Horse's messengers have western style mugs of beer
He got all Everything he ever wanted...
And all it cost him was a pretty penny.
honestly, given a few more years, I know how sad this is, but the fact he's in a white jumper, and how his goggles rumple his brow, NPH can totally play Gordon Ramsey if ever a movie comes out for him.
No. Casting an American as a Brit sounds horrible
To be fair
NPH Looks like gordon ramsay
I still picture him saying ITS FOCKEN RAWWW
I fucking love this movie
How is something that ends near a literal horse still make me sad?
Because it is not just any horse. It is Bad Horse. The leader of the Evil League of Evil.
"To make the whole world Neil" 🤣
I like how this whole film does what joker 1 and 2 kinda do in 1/8th of the time
I wish there was an entire remix of the slow theme at 2:02
2:29- Horse Got Swag XD I CANT STOP LAUGHING
He got everything he ever wanted. It only cost him a penny.
He got everything he ever wanted and it all it cost him was a Penny.
She was dying and in shock. Give her some rest. It is bad enough she had to be jossed because... well, Wheddon.
Well, Hollywood is beset with MegaStrike ll.. where's DOCTOR HORRIBLE Pt 2?
I think it almost happened around 2012 through the SciFi channel, but I guess plans fell through because Whedon was wrapped up with Marvel stuff.
Now I don't think any of these people, except maybe Fillion, will work with Whedon anymore
@bdeamon1 why is that?
wow i wonder why a path of supervillainy and stalking didn't work out when it comes to getting the girl
Billy/Dr Horrible got everything he wanted but all it cost him was 1 Penny
Ten years later and I'm still sighing at this pun
moist: Did you do it?
Dr. Horrible:...yes
moist: what it cost?
Dr. Horrible:...everything
A Penny.
Just shut up.
Only 1 Penny
Not 3 not 2
1
Joss Whedon seems to value destiny over love in his stories.
Are you actually that stupid
@@deadaccount1.57 No, Just look at it Buffy had to say goodbye to Angel, Dr. Horrible got everything he ever wanted all it cost him was a Penny, And I'm not sure who Mal's love interest is but I'm sure he had to say goodbye to them.
I prefer tragedies. They give a more intense emotional response. Plus, being someone who struggles to understand romantic love, sadness is more relatable. Familial love is very relatable, but rarely explored in stories like this.
"Captain Hammer will save us"
You mean the same Capt. Hammer who just now ran away? Crying like a school kid who dropped his juice box?
Sorry Penny, I'd rather put my life in Horrible's hands than that overly-pompous twit of a "hero"
LE GASP HOWARD FROM BBT AT 2:02😮
Perfect.
Its sad actually, he wanted everything and in the end he got nothing. 😢
2:18 Ok I know this song is meant to be really sad, and it is, it gets me every time, but that instrumental goes so much harder than it needs to
I saw this in college in 2011 and this is still one of the most empty endings ive ever seen in a movie
Imaginary evil is fiery, romantic, exiting and varied.
Real evil is monotonous, predictable, barren and boring.
Imaginary evil begets real evil.
Now captain hammer is a cop for the lapd
the bad horse joke still cracks me up to this day "he votes neigh"
That Captain Hammer part gets me every time
Majestic.
(Atm) 4 people disliked this song
Gues they didnt make it into the ELE
It is a musical called Dr. Horrible's sing along blog. It can be found right here on youtube.
2:02
This is such a great villain song
Fun fact at 2:04 and that whole scene the melody of Brand New Day is being played
He looks just like Craig Owens in that final frame.
I think Neil Patrick Harris would be a good casting choice for a tolkien elf. That isn't related to this but it's what popped into my head.
Celestial Toy Maker.. good choice.
When you’re a vigilante (Horrible) who dismisses a real hero (Penny) because they won’t rage with you against the system (Hammer), you’ll kill the real hero in the crossfire. And a vigilante without heroism is just a villain.
NOTE:Penny is the only one who actually does any good in the story. She put up with faking feeling for a guy she didn’t like for the sake of using his powerful social status to create a homeless shelter. PENNY is the only one in the story who actually HELPED PEOPLE. She is the real hero.
I regret nothing,dr horrible
So sad
I won't feel a thing
@digimbyte In case you havent found out for yourself yet, this is a musical movie made for the internet, directed by Joss Whedon, with Neil Ptarick Harris, Felicia Day, and a couple of others called Dr Horrible's Sing-a-long Blog.
Dr. Horrible got everything he ever wanted, and it only cost him a Penny.
2:30 Is that glitterhoof?
Who?
@@LoganTocker Glitterhoof
@TheJackHood who's glitterhoof?
@@LoganTocker Glitterhoof is Glitterhoof! :D
Who? That’s Bad Horse. The thoroughbred of sin
I came here for the dorky goggles...
then saw the hot red head from the Guild and i was like... WANT...
no seriously is this some internet show like the guild? name?
Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog was released on July 15, 2008. It was here on UA-cam and had it's own website somewhere too. Very popular that summer.
1:52 Why is he doing that? Not shooting...lol
1:54 Anyone else wonder what he's saying?
captain hammer says something like “here, in my heart, and it ??”
What did it cost?
“A thing”
1,000 Ways to Break Your Heart in the West
Sad.
liek this if u crie evry tiem
That "captain hammer will save us" hits you in the gut alright,
But I think it be a much stronger impact, if Billy here... Started off has a good guy, then turned evil after he failed winning her heart. Then accidentally killing her, well fighting Hammer.
Instead of him already being a villain to begin with, then him accidentally killing her. When we watch this.
It'd make his broken state, after this. Even more hearting shattering, to watch.
Bad guys are not Supposed to win.
Well, as Charles Dance said back in Last Action Hero, "In this world, the bad guy can win!"
Nothing =C
Dear Joss Whedon:
WHY?!?!?!??!?!??!?!?!?!?!!
Coral Roper Get in line. I need to yell at him for cancelling Firefly.
Star Doctor The General of Time I think Fox is the one you need to yell at for that.
Coral Roper Alright then, here's your place back.
Star Doctor The General of Time Thank you
Coral Roper Sure thing.
We should be such a a bully the doctor horrible