Growing roses from seed: what to expect
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- It's quite easy to grow roses by seed saved from your own garden, but what will you get? I'll show you how to stratify rose seeds - which is really the only tricky bit - and summarize what you can expect from the seedlings.
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Great video. One of the few that is not robot voice or nonsense. Thank you!
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A calm and sensible explanation. Thanks so much :)
Thank you so much - this is a great video and thankfully no annoying robot voice, or irritating dance music. 🌹
It’s sad that this is a legitimate compliment. It should be the standard not the other way around lol
I have a wild rose bush that popped up a few years ago. This is the first year the I got rose hips off of it. The rose plant smells amazing and the years it’s been growing it’s never been watered 1 by me and it’s now huge
I took hips off a favorite little pink rose in my flower bed, but waited until after winter so they'd get the cold treatment. I planted them and just about all came up and are growing great! Most of them have a tiny bud even though only 6" tall! So the buds look very pink but one finally opened and it's actually a very pale pink, so we think it crossed with maybe the wild 'dog' rose in the garden? We'll see what else happens with the others and how big these get. I find it very fun and exciting to see what comes of it, any rose to me is a good rose! haha
Nicely done! How exciting for you
Wow, Mary well done. Im only just starting to investigate the whole process and am waiting for our roses to produce the hips. (Weve been manic dead headers in tge past. 😉) we have about 70 roses at our home so Im hoping I might be able to squeeze a few more in yet. Again, well done. O we're from South Australia.
@@darrylrowley7547 Another manic dead-header here!
@@shreerav 1 thing I learned this year was that the hips that turn brown are fertilised, pollinated and from them will come the good seeds.
Btw, I'm gunna give up on seed thing since I put in about 70 cuttings and so far, housed in my hothouse, they are all powering on. Im hopeful that Ill have more roses than I know what to do with. Varieties like, Vol de Nuit, Violet Carson, Black Boy climber, Pierre de Ronsard, Lime Light, RSL, Love You, Gallipoli and Paradise.
@@darrylrowley7547 Well done you. Think you are absolutely right. Why take a complex path when your cuttings are doing so well. Let's carry on being dead headers!
Can you briefly tell me how you took your cuttings?
I had created a gallica x morden hybrid that was an incredibly beautiful plant to look at; well balanced, gorgeous glossy and disease resistant foliage. The most perfect architecture and vase-shaped gallica hybrid I've ever seen; there was nothing like it! But it had viscious thorns, not entirely cane hardy without snow cover and the flowers were a collossal disapointment; incredibly vegetative on nearly the entire plant. I had a hard time parting with it because I loved the looks of the plant itself. After many years, I finally got rid of it because it wasen't worth the task of winter protecting its once-blooming canes in anticipation of an irritatingly vegetative sight...and example of a beautiful shrub with ruined flowers. This proliferation phenomena is apparently a fault with gallicas.
Thank you so much for this video. I am just starting my journey growing roses from seeds and other rare flowers. The info is very much appreciated!
This is very interesting. I have saved some rose hips so I’d like to try this
Subscribed!! I am so grateful for precise information- great informative videos!
Aww a real human, thank you kindly. 👌
Great info, really appreciated.
Thank you for the great tutorial... Tantalizing!
Thank you so much for your videos on growing roses from seed. I have been successful and have 12 seedlings growing.... not sure what I’m going to do with them all. I have 2 more lots to get out of the fridge too. Its so satisfying to see them grow. Two have flower buds on them already as well!
Way to go! I'm always anxious to see how the blooms turn out.
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I’m moving, and I’m going to try my hand at this. I have a Climbing Angels Face, that I love and it smells incredible. Thank you!
Thank you Jason your videos are great I have just pots and do not believe I can do any of these things but I want you to know you are a great teacher and I enjoy what you do and teach lots of fun’s.
Thanks so much Farah!
Hi Jason, so its my turn to have a go at growing roses from hips, thanks to you l now know the procedure to follow.
As you mentioned in some other video the hardest part is being patient, and waiting for mother nature to take her own time in germination.
You bet. Thanks Colin
Your opinion and way of explaining is Just good ❤ like your lovely rose plants
Impressive - good sense, very well presented - thanks!
And.none of that.stupid MUSIC...MAN I HATE THAT...AND THE VANITY INTRO OF TWO MINUTES...I HATE THAT MOST OF ALL.
Thank you for the knowledgeable information based on your own experience l am going to follow your advice and give this a go just for the sense of achievement. Hopefully l will be able to appreciate and enjoy the fruits of my labour.
So informative- thanks!
So helpful and interesting information!
Wonderful information!
Excellent Video! 😃
thank you so much for sensible clear explanation
Thank you. Very informative.
Nice video as usual. Thanks!
I lived in a rented house a few years ago, and there was a beautiful tea-hybrid rose (light pink, a classic that certainly has a name, I think it may be a Carla, they were a favorite in Brazil some decades ago). So I tried stratification of its seeds, from naturally pollinated buds. I managed to get one of the seedlings all the way through to maturity; in fact it is alive and kicking to this day. I keep it in a pot so it goes wherever I go! But the flower, although it has the very same colors as its parent did, even the same color variance along the season, does not have that many petaloids, almost none. It almost looks like one of the wild type roses with a single row of petals. (its a pity I can't send a picture here.) Is that a common thing to happen? Is it why finding the perfect rose among hundreds of seedlings is so difficult? I'm really happy I found your channel! I'm binging! Congratulations!
Well explained. Thank you!!!
Thank you.
The hips on my roses do not turn red, but I deadhead them and perhaps that's why. Advice? Thanks for sharing Jason, love your videos from Florida!
I plant rose seed in march hope it come out in july
Great video! How long would it take for a seedling to flower? Do they bloom in their first year?
Yes, most of my seedlings (of modern hybrids) bloom at least a little bit in the first year. The blooms are quite small on a young rose, but it'll give you an idea of what's to come.
I bought some rose seeds online last year and I am trying to grow them this year. Am I suppose to do the same methods?
Hi do you have the result of the hybridization after you plant the seeds, I. Curious to see what color the rose
Hi! Are the rose hips would still be OK to keep for years? Thank you for the video!
Yes. You can dry the hips whole, or remove and dry the seeds first.
What if I live in an area that has no winter, would I still have to put them in the fridge for months? Also does this work for roses such as centifolia or climbing roses?
Yes - I'd recommend the cold stratification in your warmer climate. Climbing roses and centifolias were/are propagated by seed initially, so yes - but bear in mind that the resultant seedling will not be the same as the parents.
The dog rose hips I recently collected were a dull red, offered no resistance to picking and were squishy when squeezed. I'm guessing these were ready. Thank you.
Hi just a random question but I have watched 2 of your videos on this process and I can find where you say how long you soak the seeds for and what in? thanks
Soaking isn't completely necessary (for clean seeds). If I'm taking the seeds from dried hips, I'll soak in plain water to soften the flesh of the hip before extracting the seeds.
How much seeds had take the time to convert in to plant?
Hi, as a house warming gift a bunch of friends got me rose seeds from China. They're 100's, all in little zippy bags without any identification. I thought I'd number the bags then start five from each in a corresponding row of a tray. What I'm wondering is how long does it take before they'll flower so I know which ones I prefer in order to sprout the ones I like best? I'd be grateful for any other tips you want to share, or links to other of your videos. THANK YOU!
The good news is that many hybrid roses will rush to bloom in their first season. The species roses can take until their second year. Either way, make sure to cold/moist stratify for 3 months or so to get germination started (as described in the vid). My impression was that many of the bulk packs of rose seeds sold out of china were Rosa rugosa (rubra or alba) - but do let me know what come up for you!
Don’t suppose you would know when to collect Rosehip here in Australia, Sydney area, we don’t really get frost maybe very occasionally, how do I know when to get the seeds. I’m going to attempt this process. On the climbing rose the rosehips are red now but im not going to bother with that as I have too many cuttings of that. On the hybrid teas I have they are huge and almost red. Plus i really want to grow seeds from a miniature I think a pink China rose, that one keeps flowering but has red rosehips as well, I’ve not been successful with cuttings from that.. It will be coldest maybe in 6 weeks.
Thanks Jo. It sounds like your hybrid tea hips are just about ripe - and that means the seeds are ready for harvest. Ideally, red or orange hips as they begin to soften. Best of luck!
When can we expect a Fraser Valley Rose Farm cultivar?
Hi Jason,
I got some rose hips from California,
And I put the seeds in ziplock bags kept in fridge , it’s already 6 weeks so I want to wait for the spring? It’s fine?
Or what to do?
I live in Chicago.
If they've already been moistened and in the fridge for 6 weeks, it might only be a few weeks now before they're ready to germinate. I'd check on them every once in a while just to make sure they're not "cracking" and sprouting in the fridge, and if they do, you'll need to get them into some soil to grow on.
So I live in zone 9, south Louisiana . One of my hybrid teas has a ripe (orange colored) rose hip, I'm wondering if I still need to do stratification on these seeds? Weve had several freezes this past winter so I wonder if stratification has already naturally occurred, and maybe I should try planting them right away?
Hi Heather, I would still do stratification in the fridge. While the seeds remain in the ripened hips, it seems they're sheltered from the moisture they need for stratification. I've tried and had poor results attempting to germinate from overwintered hips still on the plant.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you so much! I will do that :)
Another question, Jason, how fast do roses from seeds grow? Interested in knowing that. I guess if I want speed, I should air graft them, right? Thanks!
Hi Leah - yes, much faster from cuttings than by seed. Growing from seed is more a fun project or if you're hybridizing.
It's my first attempt
Thanks for sharing. What temperature need to be in freezer please?
Not the freezer, just the fridge. 4C or 39F on average would be fine.
can you tell me where i can get seeds for the wild roses around cranberry junction. the hips are beautiful and elongated and the flowers are pink. i just loved them when i passed thru there in the ninetys
Hi Jim. It could be R. acicularis, one of BC's native roses - and it had elongated hips. A search for that species' seeds on google gives a few sources.
Hello, will I get same rose from seeds as Mum plant? Thank you
Not always. Hybrid roses have complex genes, so the babies can be quite variable. If it's a species roses (like Rosa rugosa) and it self-pollinated, then it may be a lot like the mother.
how can i store pollen for months for future uses?
will it be the same viability as fresh pollen after storing?
please dont mind im asking a lot of questions
Cool and dry, but viability is decreased compared to fresh pollen.
Hi, I was wondering if i pick some rose hips today frozen outside in my garden. Would that work for stratification? that it's been outside in sub zero weather for 2.5 mths.
sorry I live outside Ottawa.
Hi Nikolaas. Not so far as I can tell, and I've heard the same from other rose growers: the time in the hips is not stratification time. The seeds don't seem to "count" the cold treatment until their also outside of the fruit and surrounded by moist substrate.
Hi,Can I use peat moss instead of vermiculite ?
So long as you can manage the moisture to prevent rot
I live in central Texas. My Roses are covered with green rose hips. I am very interested in trying my hand at growing roses from seeds. We had our first Frost this week. My roses bushes are still growing roses like crazy. Some of my rose hips are absolutely bursting with red/yellow “seeds”. How do I know when they’re ready to pick?
You can be sure when the fruit is orange or red and begins to soften.
I would likeTo send you pictures of my rosehips so that you can see what I’m talking about. But I am not able to on this. Do you have a Facebook page that I could follow and send pictures to?
Thanks for this video. I had collected rose hips last year in 2017 now its May 2018 and I wanted to sow the seeds but fortunately I saw this video and found out they need to be refrigerated for 3 months. What do I do now? please help!
Depends on your climate, and how patient you want to be. 8 to 12 weeks stratification beginning now will put you into early July or August to sow, plus another 2 or 3 weeks for germination. That would put tender seedlings in your care in August or Sept. If you have a mild climate, that may not be a problem. If you have cold early in the fall, tho, you would then have to arrange to take seedlings indoors or offer other protection. The more patient option is to store dry until fall, stratify over winter, and go for 2019. I wouldn't tell you which way to go, but I'm not really known for my patience...
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I bought Bulgarian seeds online and did the stratification procees in my fridge for just about 3 months, started in early November and it's almost February and they have not sprouted in the container..I have seen other videos where some species takes longer to grow in the fridge so I'm assuming these seeds are like that too because not one of them have sprouted yet..I replanted them in their individual pots outside so we'll see what happens in the coming month. I'm very worried though, I didn't want to keep them in the fridge too much longer because of the small mold spots that started to form on top of the vermalite soil but it has been just shy of three months and I think it's time to take them out. Hopefully at least one of the seeds will grow, I planted about 12 seeds, I'll cross my fingers, what's your advice?
Sounds like you've done everything I would. If they don't sprout in 3 to 4 weeks in warmer temperatures, I'd try the cold again. What variety seeds are you growing?
@Fraser Valley Rose Farm Thank you for the response!! They are Demask Rose seeds commonly called the Bulgarian Rose because of their scent being used in perfume. I followed everything to a Tee, I have absolutely no idea why it's taking so long to sprout - you'd think at least one has. When I transplanted the seeds they still looked alive, moist and ready but no roots or stems have grown yet at a week or so shy of three months in the fridge.
Hello again, Jason. I was wondering if you would help me with my question. I have successfully made some roses from seeds, they grow perfectly and many of them have given flowers, some very beautiful and some not that beautiful... Is the first rose exactly as the roses will be on the mature plant, or do they get better ? I mean, if the flowers will get more petals, bigger and so on. Thanks in advance for your time.
Yes, they should improve as the plant matures. Flowers on young seedlings are often smaller with a lower petal-count.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarmThank you so much, Jason! I am happy to hear that. I will definitely keep many more of my rose seedlings and wait until they mature. All the best to you!
How long can you ceep dry rose seeds before planting? Because I have some dry rose hips from 2 years ago can they still germinate?
Yes, I've used old seeds - and the germination rate does tend to decrease year over year, but it's still worth a try. You do still need to give them a cool moist stratification period for the best chance of success.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thanks i will sure try. I've germinated al lot of various seeds from various plants even trees.
Thanks to your videos, I was able to germinate the seeds. But I need your advice, a few days after germination the seedlings die. I have tried to expose them gradually to sun, keep them moist, and can't figure what am I doing wrong. I saw a video about the wind, that the seedlings need the movement to grow stronger. Also I don't know if the altitude where I live is severely affecting the seedlings (1800 Mts above sea level). Another video says that you just have to neglect them, and they'll thrive?
Any help is greatly appreciated. I just want to have a beautiful rosa rugosa in my garden from the seeds we collected a year ago with my sister on the beach. Big hug.
Pd. The recent ones are leggy, so I'm guessing not exposing them to direct sunlight is the mistake? but they are just a few days old.
Hi Ricky, I think you're on the right track with gradual exposure to sun. Watch the moisture level - some seedlings die from a fungal disease called "damping off" where they dramatically thin out on the stem and then just tip over. A little less moisture may be in order. Yes, gentle air movement is also good.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you so much for your kind and fast response. I will definitely follow your advice. I guess at some point we all give "too much love" to our plants by over watering. Will keep an eye on that.
My rosehips look ripe but it's only August , can I pick them and store them before taken the seeds out of them what is the best way to do this ?, many thanks for any help on this , my garden has a load of wild roses in the outer lane so am unsure what the roses are.
Hi Nicola. When I save hips from earlier in the season, and I don't want to start the stratification step yet, I just harvest and keep the whole hips in a cool dry place, and let them shrivel up. When I'm ready for the next step later, the dried hips go into a cup of water overnight and I can remove the seeds easily after they hydrate/soften.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thanks for the advise , can t wait to see what roses I get as the bushes were in trees and other obstructing growth , looking forward to putting them into the main garden and nurturing them .
Sounds like growing roses from seed would be a much longer process than just rooting a cutting. What's the advantage? Thanks for sharing!
It sure can be. I use it for batches of species roses (rugosa, rubrifolia, nutkana) because stratifying 100 seeds is just about the same effort as stratifying 1. I can get a large number of seedlings without a lot of hand-prapagation work. Also (and maybe this is why it interests some people) this is the way a "new"rose comes into being - either by planned hybridizing or by saving seeds from a natural cross in the garden. It can be a surprise what the resulting seedlings will grow like.
I plan on doing some from seeds for variety of color if some of my varieties cross polinated. Ive also found seeds available online from varieties I love. Like 20 seeds for $2 whereas the plant would cost around $45 to order. It just looks fun
Hi...i just picked off a hip that has already overwintered on the bush. Can i just plant the seed now ? It’s May 3. TY
Hi Cathy. The seed requires a cool moist stratification period (even if it was out in the cold all winter in a hip)
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm ...thanks for responding..appreciate it!
One of my rose plant has quite few hips. I took one which was orange and bit green to check inside (because my other rose just never ever has any hips, just flowers and dies). So there are seeds inside quite pale not brown or tan. Are these still viable and if so what do i do now, dry and store or start the stratification process or is this too soon. Also when the best time to collect the seeds to stratify. Thanks a bunch in advance and sorry for all the qs
No problem. The seeds don't need to be brown - the ripeness of the hip is a good indication that they're worth a try. A viable seed will remain viable for quite a while if kept cool and dry. Usually I'd start my stratification a little later, like November. If it took 3 month to sprout, that puts me into February, and I don't mind giving artificial light for a bit until they're ready to go outside, but I wouldn't want them sprouting in December for instance. Here's my more recent video on starting roses from seed: ua-cam.com/video/GyNK887yEzk/v-deo.html
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you so much for your reply. I shall dry and save the seeds and start stratifying in November like you suggested or maybe a little later as I don't have a greenhouse or light etc. Thanks again!
I have a noob question.
I recently purchased a New Zealand Pink from an online nursery. I had one a few years ago, but it was accidentally killed.
The first flower but that showed up on this new bush looked awfully dark, and sure enough, it opened yesterday, and is not the pale pink colour I was expecting. It's more of a dark peachy/pink, but it hasn't fully opened. But there are some other buds that look many shades lighter. Is this normal? If a hybrid has a distinct name, should all the flowers be the same colour from bush to bush, or are variances normal?
Hi Ramona. It may be just fine - sometimes the first blooms of the season develop in cooler temperatures, and have a darker color to them. It may be a little variable, but so long as it's within the range of soft pink when it opens, you probably don't have anything to worry about.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you! You are absolutely correct. They opened up and are the right colour. Now I have to figure out what to do w/ possible... thrips? I think they're called. Roses are EXTRA. haha Thanks for your helpful videos!
@@RamonaQ Fyi what I did for my own rose bush was feed it some wood ash ever 6 months as well as give in some compost with inoculated bio char. The plant seems to have so much calcium and other nutrients that the bug pests mostly stopped messing with them.
I bought a single pink rose plant back in 2021 in memory of a loved one. Can i take a cutting for a clone and also take the hips from the same plant? I'm curious what the seeds might produce but not at the cost of taking a cutting. I'd love to increase my numbers as i only have the one plant at the moment! I'd love to try both methods if possible for experimentation whilst still getting more of my pink rose with cuttings.
It's not an either/or situation really, but for the stem with the hips you'll have to leave it in place for 2-3 months after flowering for the seeds to mature.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm so it should be safe to take one stem for cutting now ish and leave the others attached for the hips for later in the year? Thank you so much!
If i heard you correctly you said “dried hips” are ok to get the seeds from as well? Does this slow down or effect the process in anyway?
It doesn't slow it down - but you need to extract the dried seeds from the hips (I soak them) and then still do the cold treatment.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarmwe don't have wild roses here in the Philippines and the only ones grown at home are mini roses, which don't seem to result in hips often (I found a single one today, after several years of no hips). Would it be possible to grow seeds from hips sold for tea? Those are all imported and I don't know if they were irradiated.
I wonder if rose hips on an overwintering rose are protective OR should I hedge trim my roses way down and let them start fresh in the spring? Have you tried this and what were your results? I know deadheading tells the rose to make more flowers but cutting it WAY low there is NO CHANCE for flowers.
Hi Portia. I reserve my heaviest pruning for the spring. If you're in a climate with a cold winter, I recommend waiting for a few reasons: 1) A heavy prune with the wrong timing can encourage soft vegetative growth that can be susceptible to cold damage, 2) if there IS winter damage, you'll have to prune in the spring anyhow, so may as well wait and do it as one step in spring when you can see the blackened stems, and 3) because I like the look of the hips over the winter - food for birds too. Either way, I don't think they're protecting the rose.
Fraser Valley Rose Farm Yes, Mike McGraph of “You Bet Your Garden” says no pruning and no fertilizer in the fall. My roses are always in sheet mulch d cardboard and coffee grounds so this is fine. I’m going to put them in Creeping Charlie bc this mint makes lovely soil.
what medium are you using to transfer your one year rose
Hi Neal. Is a mix of composted bark and shredded wood fiber. We're in a forestry region, so the potting soil suppliers go heavy on the wood-based mixes.
how do I properly propagate rose seedlings which come in a pack I bought from a store. Would the procedures you mentioned in this video also work for these seeds of unknown provenance? Many thanks!
Thanks Eddy. I think that's your best bet.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you so much, Sir, for your prompt response to my query!
Hi, i have a small white button rose, the flowers are very small. when i got it it had produced a hip, it was small, i opened it when it turned orange and the seeds were very very small will they germinate? i have not tried.
The size of the seeds will vary by the kind of rose, so I think it's worth a try
My mom had a very fragrant yellow rose. We live in the country so there’s not a rose bush anywhere that we know of except the wild roses. What in your expert experience do you think we can expect. Getting the seeds ready to soak before planting.
Seeds from the wild roses should yield something pretty similar to the species. If from the yellow rose, it's hard to know what to expect - but with enough offspring you should see something interesting anyway.
I have followed your video and I now have 24 small plants. I am wondering how long I keep my little babies inside and when are they goingt obe ready to go outside?
Only until they've started to form the first true leaves and have some decent rooting.
What if the rose hip is still green? Should you not open for a while?
Hi Kathy. I've always had the best luck with fully ripened hips - orange or red and ideally also beginning to soften.
Hi, they take 3 years to produce flowers ?
No, I've seen (small) flowers in the first year from repeat-blooming parent plants.
i put my seeds on refrigerator for 3 months then today i scattered them on my garden some are sow...hoping they will germinate...since its always raining here then by next year summer come along...
Good luck Mary. I hope you see the rose seedlings you want!
Where is a good place to buy a variety of rose seeds online?
Hi Robert. I got a few species rose varieties from Georgia Vines.
Can i dry the rose seed and plant it later... Im here at russia and i want to send some seedd in Philippines...
Jason I hope you can help me out with this. I have a rose that has been on this property for over 100 years I can personally vouch for the last 60 years. I gave some flowers to a coworker to show his wife and she said it was a Tea Rose from France. I have looked in every book I can find and nothing matches...Help lol
Interesting Jack. It's notoriously difficult to positively ID old roses in the landscape, but my advice is basically this: take pictures and notes at each stage of the year. Important features include the form, color and size of the flowers at all stages, fragrance if any, foliage, overall shrub height and habit, stems (thorny or smooth), repeat bloom or once blooming. Once you're pretty comfortable with describing it, and have pics in hand, pop through to the Facebook groups related to roses. Make sure the group rules and norms are okay with posting unidentified roses, and then give them the details. There might be someone in a group of several thousand who recognized your rose with some confidence as something they've grown. I say more or less the same thing in this video about identifying an unknown rose: ua-cam.com/video/ln6wL_vKBFY/v-deo.html
I didn't cut my rose hips, they've been out all winter. Before I prune, should I toss, or give it a try?
No trouble to try, but you'd still need to remove them from the hips and give them a cold period. I know it sounds weird, since they've been in the cold all winter, but the seeds are inhibited from "feeling" the cold while still in the hips.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thanks for the info, I'll give it a try. Glad I found your channel!
Hi sir, I live in a tropical country that doesn't have winter season, so rose plant always live & flower throughout the year in hot weather...so if I plant rose seed here, should I keep doing stratification process or not?
Yes, most rose seeds require the cold period to germinate
I don’t get hips on my roses. Can they look different? I have 4 different kinds of roses and I’ve had them so long I don’t remember what kind they are. I know on 2 they are long stem and they get as big as my hand. I live in south Jersey so I don’t know if that makes a difference
Some roses are much better than others at developing hips - they vary a little in appearance, but in general they're round and you should see them on the ends of the stems where the flowers opened (if you don't deadhead).
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm wow thank you for explaining. I’m in the process of watching all your videos and I am learning so much.
Hi..have you ever planted lantana flowers from seed? Thx
No - but from what I read, I don't think they require the stratification period. Just soak, sow warm, and barely cover with soil.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you...will sunflowers cross germinate with other variety of flowers?if I want to save seeds?thanks
So Jason does that mean that the only way to have the same identical plant genetically would be by cuttings?
Cuttings, layering, air layering, own-root suckers, tissue culture - but yes, only from vegetative propagation
Can you grow rose seeds from a green rose hip?
I don't think so. Green hips mean the seeds inside are not ripe yet
can you use peat moss in place of vermiculite?
Peat moss or potting mix can be used, just don't add too much water.
Some of my green rose hips split open by themselves and exposed the seeds inside. Can those seeds be used?
I'd give them a try is they're already quite hard. If they're soft, the seeds are not mature enough.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you!
Does leaving the hips on during the winter equal to having the seeds in the fridge? Basically is it necessary to put the seeds in the fridge if they have been through winter in the hips on the rose plant?
Hi Janesha. They don't "feel" the cold and moisture while the seeds are still in the hips on the bush. They still need the cold treatment after they come out of the hips.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Oh okay! Thank you ever so much. I've learned so much from your channel. Keep the content coming!
How long do you leave them in the fridge please?
I purchased some seeds online, do I need to put them in the fridge or just plant them in pots?
I am new to all of this so any help/suggestions would be helpful Thanks
Hi Eric. I'd still do the fridge to improve chances of germination.
Fraser Valley Rose Farm Hi, I live in Denver Colorado so when would be the best time to put the seeds in the refrigerator? Do you know anything about cloning roses? Like when is the best time to get your cuttings off the rose bush
I'm watching from New Zealand and as you talk about months and not seasons I have no idea when to start preparing seeds. Where in the world are you please?
Northern hemisphere - western Canada. You could reverse the months I talk about (November = May) but I'm not sure it'll make a big difference in NZ, because your climate is mild enough year-round to start seedlings. BTW, I've tried to be better since this video about making my advice apply to other climates.
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Do you have to soak the seeds thanks
No, if you can get them away from the hips cleanly without soaking, you can go straight to the cold stratification
Hi Jason, if the seedling grows to show many similar characteristics as the parent plant, would you call it by the name of parent rose?
No, because even if it looks similar it's not genetically identical. I've seen some people use this kind of name: ex. 'Just Joey' with the "ex." meaning "seedling of".
I learn more from Jason, than the year long horticulture class I took in high school !
Will the color of the rose remain the same as that of the mother plant or will it change when grown from seed?
It can change when grown from seed
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thanks sir
Can you propagate wild roses from cuttings?
Yes. Some work better than others, but I've had good success with R. eglanteria and R. glauca. If I'm doing a lot of one variety, though, collecting and growing from seed is much easier.
Not sure where you are, but noticed you mention propagating wild roses. Some states classify "multiflora rose" (aka Rosa Multiflora) as a noxious weed and in some states, it can be illegal to propagate it. (I personally think it's a lovely plant, but it is very aggressive and spreads easily by birds.)
What happens if you cut the hip rose, cut the top off and put it straight in the ground and water it? Will it grow?
Perhaps, but not right away. It usually takes a winter (or two) to prep the seeds for germination. That's why I prefer the vermiculite and fridge technique.
Fraser Valley Rose Farm Hello Mr. Fraser, the reason why I ask was because I nade a mistake of cutting the hip rose and planting it. I was told to cut the hip rose, there are seeds inside, so I planted them in the ground. I type it in to see did I plant it right, this led to your video. NEXT PUMING OF HIP ROSES IM GOING TO DO IT YOUR WAY AND GATHER MY MATERIAL.
Please answer. Trying this for the 1st time.
So when you put them into your greenhouse. Then what? Leave them in the container until they start to sprout? When do you transplant them into their own pots? Still with the vermiculite?
You didn't do that part.
Thanks - this one may show the whole method better: ua-cam.com/video/CTFAVxrG6Pk/v-deo.html
Has anyone ever used Super Smoke Plus (germination stimulant) with rose seeds? if so, would one put the seeds in the Hydrogen Peroxide before or after the Super -Smoke solution?
I haven't used Super Smoke for rose seeds - I don't know if it would help. I think that is used for plants that use bushfires etc. as a signal for germination, where I think roses use winter vernalization to know when to sprout. I find 8 to 12 wks cold stratification works fine. I wouldn't be surprised if you had some success with peroxide or GA3, but for me, I stay with the simplest thing that works.
Do roses automatically have thorns when they first sprout out of the ground
Hi David. I usually see the first small prickles on the stem above or below the first set of true leaves.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm is that the white fuzzies on the stem
Hello, it's January 2018 my rose hips are still green we had 3 freeze, when is the best time to harvest them? Thanks.
Hi James. I can't say that they're ripe (a little color on the hips would be a good sign, but not all roses get there) but I can say that there's no advantage to leaving them out there longer - they won't further ripen on the bush. It may still be worth a try to remove the seeds and cold-stratify. You've got nothing to lose!
Fraser Valley Rose Farm Thanks for the info, I will try that. Thanks for getting back to me.
This is a great video! I’m in Las Vegas so i am just getting hips that have some color and it’s March. What are the chances of starting this process now? If I cold stratify now, that will be June. Is that too late to bother?
Thanks. I'd say it's worth a try. 90 days of stratification puts you into early June for germination, which still gives you a fair bit of time to grow on before next winter. Just out of curiosity, which variety are you planning to save from?
Fraser Valley Rose Farm nothing fancy, just a nursery rose called Falling In Love. If this works, I’ll try a bunch of seeds next year from my David Austin rose. They are just planted bare roots so it will be a while
Wow, you are really into this. I love your explanations, tnx for your effort. What about wild rosehip? Can I do the same with rosehip? I would like to increase the number of it in the wilderness around my home.
Hi Eustahije - yes. Wild roses are fantastic at producing viable seed!
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you very much. Keep up the good work.
Can I propogate the rose seeds in cocopeat or peatmass brother.
Sure. Just watch the moisture levels so that they don't rot and put them in a cool place.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thankyou Brother for your reply.God blessed you.
So if I good understand. If I use seeds from some red roses and plant it result wont be that red rose? (let we say we don't have any other rose in region just that red rose)
It depends on the genetics. If the red rose had only red parents, and grandparents, and great-grandparents, then the chances would be better to get a red rose from open pollination. If it's a complex cross with lots of different colors in its lineage, it's a game of chance...
I get it for open pollination. But if I use seed from self pollinated red rose hybrid can I expect big chance to be that same red rose with little chance for other variation(she can have some white or yellow ancestor, because we don't know for all roses ancestor)?
Not knowing the ancestry, I think you would be likely get other colors. If it's a complex hybrid, it may take many generations of self-breeding and selection for color to "stabilize" - I have an old book on rose breeding that says it would take 20 generations of selection to have your rose "come true to type" 65% of the time. I don't know how accurate that is, or how it would apply to color only. I guess the way to know would be to try! I collected seed last year from hybrids (open pollinated) and I'll see how similar they come to the mother. Good luck!
Fraser Valley Rose Farm that remove my doubts, thank you.
Wow, 20 generations is substantial.
AYE I HAVE A RUGOSA ALBA I GOT IT A FEW WEEKS ALBO? Is it classified as an alba rose?
No, it's a rugosa. "Alba" in this case just means the mother had white flowers.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Ah I see! I don't remember the rugosa in your rose history video series. Very cool rose I can't wait to see it bloom next year! You have taught me just about everything I know about roses, they are my absolute favorite! Do you have any recommendation where I can find those old garden roses like the Galicas, the bourbon or the China studs? Im from the US in the Portland metro area in Oregon. I hope one day we will be able to meet and I can check out yard farm. Keep it up Jason your my G!
Hi Hunter. You're in a good spot for the old garden roses - I think Heirloom Roses and Rogue Valley Roses are both nearby, and because you're in the US, there are probably a half dozen other specialist rose nurseries that will ship to you.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Allright thanks Jason your awesome! Keep it up.