Preserving a Forgotten Need for Speed Arcade Game
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Need for Speed GT is the first of three NFS arcade games, and there's finally a decent tutorial to play it for yourself: tinyurl.com/nf...
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the amount of arcade games that end up becoming vaporware is saddening. it's nice to see these versions ported back to PC, even if they aren't perfect
Don't you mean "lost media"? Vaporware is a completely different thing?
The rhythm game community has it super fuckin hard considering pretty much everything is arcade-exclusive nowadays lol
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN True but a lot of rhythm games thankfully are simple enough that you can make clones/ports without too much trouble.
I knew there was NFS Underground for Arcade but few days ago I just saw a NFS Heat arcade machine. I can't believe they still make arcade ports of these games
I came across one a few months ago, neat.
Wait WHAT?
Mentions of the Global VR site made me want to visit it for some reason, and I'd encourage anyone else to do so if you're looking for a throwback to the old-internet style of websites. Definitely made me smile as it felt like looking into a time capsule 😀
Yeah, that site looks like it is from the Early 2000's! Old School!
@@MrMario2011 getting NASCAR Racing and NFS Carbon into our hands to play at home would be awesome
Things like this are why game preservation is so important. Companies don't want us to retain the culture of the games they themselves made. I'm glad that the modern internet realized that and started working against it.
0:27 a nfs underground arcade cabinet appeared in the film "the world's end" but it was playing most wanted 2012
If you can find a place that has a cabinet, there’s a NFS Heat arcade version that seriously exists. I’ve played it for 20 minutes and honestly it’s hot ass. But it does exist and it might be worth looking into.
NFS Heat Takedown
Maybe some of the arcade game's assets can be ported over to Heat... like the new buildings in Palm City Raceway.
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I played this before at a Six Flags! That was my first experience of Hot Pursuit 2, and it wasn't until I got the GameCube version of HP2 that it all started to connect to me. Man, that was an exciting day for me.
Kacey you are an angel for this work
there was also an arcade for Underground 1, I saw it about 5 years ago in a city near me
oh you adressed that, as well as the carbon arcade cabinet which tbf I haven't heard of
There is a Carbon Cabinet (I do not know however if it is GT Cabinet that got Upgraded or a Dedicated Carbon, sorry) down in Dorset, but its nearly dead I am afraid, the Manual Shifter has packed up completely on the Left Side Cabinet and the Right Side Cabinet is Dead Dead, so that could be one for the Scrapheap soon, I had no Idea Global VR's Arcade Cabinets were so cheap and nasty and were basically just cut down PC Games running on a Cheap and badly made PC! There used to be an NFS GT Cabinet up in Lancashire, but that was some years ago now so I doubt it still works. There was also an Underground Cabinet in Yorkshire that I remember from a few years ago, don't know if it still works however.
I am almost certain that Ferrybridge Services had a NFS GT cabinet in the 2000's, as did the Hollywood Bowling alley in Stockton. One of the arcades in Redcar had Underground (and also Thrill Drive 3 which played in English but the cabinet was Japanese - it seems Konami trialled a english version of game in the UK) but those are both long gone. The funfair in South Shields also had a Underground machine that still worked last time I went there (but that was before COVID) and even then the force feedback in player 2's wheel was broken. One arcade in Scarborough had Carbon and also GRID.
@@robthemodYT The last Time I was in the Arcade with GRiD in Scarborough (which was pre Lurgi) the NFS Cabinet was an Underground Game, sounds like it has been upgraded to Carbon Since. Never been to South Shields, Stockton or Redcar, I have only really been to Scarborough on Holidays, I did go to York once on a City Break, but I did not Enjoy York much, I am more Familiar with Lancashire (Fylde, the whole Lytham Saint Annes to Fleetwood stretch!), Dorset and Hampshire as I have been to those counties a lot more often.
Sadly, the Global VR Cabinets use a Cheap Belt Driven Force Feedback System on the wheel, and as we know the Drive Belts are forever coming off the Pully or Snapping in Twain on those wheels, Geared and Direct Drive are better, but Probably a bit too expensive for an Arcade Cabinet...I don't know though, Midway used to use the Latest 3DFX Voodoo Chips in their Games back in the 1990's and the Voodoo was a very Expensive Piece of Kit, I know, I used to have one! Yup, I am getting on a bit for a Gamer!
I have never seen a Thrill Drive 3 Cabinet, but there used to be a Thrill Drive 1 in Mr. J's in Blackpool (IIRC it got moved to North Pier after a while) and a Thrill Drive 2 in the Big Indoor Market on the Corner near what used to be the Big Woolworths, so Konami did indeed bring Thrill Drive to the UK (IIRC it was a massive Inspiration for the original "Burnout", I have still got the PS2 Version of that one... Point of Impact and Paradise were best however IMO) but this is going back nearly 20 years ago so I imagine they are long gone as Thrill Drive is supposed to be a very Rare Game indeed now!
It is a Shame just how many of the Old Cabinets we grew up Playing are gone, either Scrapped or Upgraded into other Games, still, there are People out there who Restore, Rebuild and preserve old Cabinets (Heard about the Guys doing the worlds only Surviving "Ridge Racer: Full Scale" Unit which got Recovered from Blackpool Pleasure Beach? that Mk1 MX5 at the Core of the Unit being a JDM Eunos is going to make parts hard to find, as sadly, the Car is a bit of a Wreck :( still, the Game itself is booting and Running on the Original PCB's now they have gotten the Damp out of them and done some soldering!) , Sega Cabinets are said to be the Easiest to Restore as they built their Cabinets Tough and there is a huge stock of NOS Parts for them, but hopefully someone will take the Plunge and Save, Preserve and Restore some of the old Global VR NFS GT/Underground/Carbon Cabinets, as, well, as Cheap and as Nasty as the Global VR Cabinets are, they sure are Great Fun to Play when they are working Properly!
1:21 Ah yes, the MC Laren F1
There’s also another need for speed game called skyline memorial on ps1 which is basically the road and tracks one but with different vehicles
Over Drivin is a japanese localization of PS1 TNFS but only with Nissan Skyline models
there's another one for the Sega Saturn that only features Nissan cars
In all fairness to you, The Speedster is just a rebadged Elise. Regardless of how much GM said otherwise.
Might have been an Elise competitor, but it literally shared nothing with the Lotus. GM had sold Lotus to Romano Artioli years before that.
@@r0b3rt_959 If you’re going off of what GM said they seem to be lying. One company doesn’t need to own the other to buy their parts. Take a look at the VW Routan. Just about every part in that car has Mopar or Pentastar on it.
www.vx220.org.uk/forums/topic/134883-compatible-parts/
www.speedsters.com/opel-speedster.htm
@@r0b3rt_959 Design and development [edit]
Due to changes in European crash safety regulations for the 2000 model year, Lotus needed to replace the original Elise. In October 1999, a deal was made between Lotus and General Motors in order for the former to gain sufficient funds to develop a new Elise.[4] As part of the deal, Lotus agreed to develop and produce the Opel Speedster and Vauxhall VX220 on a variation of its new Series 2 Elise chassis, having a 30mm longer wheelbase and lower door sills compared to its Lotus counterpart.[4]
THIS GAME WAS A GHOST FOR YEARS
i grew up with hot pursuit 2 and saw magazine ads for this game on ebay, and i scrambled to find gameplay for years, did not pop up until around 2019 IIRC
God speed dude, this is amazing work!
Reminds me of the janky patches to a weird hybrid GHIII build to get GH Arcade *somewhat* working on a regular PC. It's a shame to see so many golden arcade releases lost to time so hopefully more of this gets done!
Damn now thats a deep cut. The only nfs i havent actually played. Great stuff as always Kacey
Damn, I've played the underground arcade quite a bit over the years, I was unbeatable among my friends, great times.
Thanks for your effort of bringing them back, hope to see more soon!
I've played this before at an arcade many years ago. Cool to see that it's being preserved.
Hey Kacey, I was wondering if you've ever heard of a racing game called Rumble Racing that released as an _extremely_ early exclusive for the PS2. Two of the main draws are the ability to do flips in the air, plus a variety of Mario Kart-like power-ups. It's kind of obscure (For a game published by EA, anyway), so I figured that it might be right up your alley!
one of the best kart racers ever
Yep it's a sequel to NASCAR Rumble on PS1
@@Kaceydotme …Perhaps I should be more direct; Do you happen to take requests or suggestions for videos?
I was in Bansko, Bulgaria 6 months ago and the hotel arcade had a fully operation Need For Speed Underground 1 cabinet.
Haven’t seen one since I was a kid, played it numerous times over my stay - would have paid any money to take it home with me
The garish UI on Global VR's arcade conversions is something.
Thank you for putting in so much effort into getting these games working properly, I actually played need for speed gt pretty often at a mall arcade about 15 years ago or something...I really miss these weird arcade ports, Madden was surprisingly fun too speaking of ea stuff
Hey it's the cyberpunk guy from a that hl2 xbox vid. Went back for morbid lockdown nostalgia and ended up binge watching a lot of your bids lol.
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Another Global VR game. They sure have a weird mid-tier charm to them when compared to other arcade manufacturers; that said, they have their place in the world and are very cool. Despite the issues you mentioned, there are efforts to preserve these cabs and to sometimes preserve them with the likes of SSD upgrades and the like. I believe the community is doing a great job to save these games as I'm a big advocate for Arcade history. I reckon the games would run a lot better on a more era-appropriate OS like XP or 2K.
Thanks for the video, keep it up
2:34 tbf, the Opel Speedster is basically an Elise with a different bodykit, so you're good xD
I'm oddly fascinated with games that ported to arcade cabinets because of all the fun little changes they do to accomodate the arcade style of play.
Not surprised that this seems to be the PC version just being hooked in realtime, but hey, it gets the job done!
I remember seeing a twincab of this in an arcade in Seaside, Oregon back in high school. Funnily enough, the time share we were staying at had an Underground cab in it, but was not working. I put somewhere between 5 and 10 bucks in the cab over the course of our trip to Seaside, which is funny considering there was also an F-Zero AX cabinet with a motion seat as well in the same arcade. Was a fun time to experience, and if ever given the chance, go play it if you find an arcade cab of it.
I remember playing this a long while ago probably at Disney World; glad to see this version of Hot Pursuit 2 (and maybe the other arcade versions of NFS) is being preserved!
NFS Carbon with a static GT like camera is scary.
This is awesome stuff to see be preserved. My dream is to one day play all of these Global VR games either as intended or somewhat as intended on PC, especially the Madden Arcade games they made. I grew up playing those Madden games on road trips at gas stations and rest stops, so I'd love to play either Madden Arcade or Madden Season 2 again some day. I'd never be able to afford the arcade cab, so the PC route would be my only option if it ever comes up.
You’d be surprised how cheap some of these globalvr cabs can be had for. People just want em gone. Challenge is just finding one in decent shape
@@Kaceydotme Then hopefully I can find a Madden Season 2 cab for a decent price that isn't mangled to crap. It might take a while to raise the funds needed, but if I can find a Madden Season 2 cab and a place to put it, I'll gladly do it.
This is awesome! I never got to play like any of the NFS arcade ports, so this is really cool to see at least one of them running on PC. Great work, and I look forward to seeing the Underground and Carbon if you manage to figure those out!
I played this at Las Vegas before. At Circus Circus. I've also played the Underground one. These numpad save type games work if u frequent the arcade they're in.
The chase cam is alot more fixed where the car is looking. I personally like chase cams with minimal yaw (I cannot got back to GT3's loose chase cam) tho It could use some shaking like the Wangan Maximum Tune games.
I'm also pretty sure that parts of this game were based off another game called RUSH 2049. The pre-rendered demo video you see where a car is rotating on a turn table re-uses an asset from that game amongst other similar things.
Nah, just copying it. Rush 2049 was Midway.
I remember seeing this as a kid long ago, I was always intrigued seeing the cars rocket off from the start like that. Still, i’m glad this game isn’t being forgotten.
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They had the regular version(non gt) version at the movie theatre I was at. Never got to play the GT version. After having every home version, you might as well play the ps2 version or if need a version close to this version(arcade) the PC is closest even though speed is quicker on the arcade. The arcade has a unique take on this game but it makes sense to to get the wheel and a home version. Its funny I think i still have my global VR underground save card somewhere.
They used to have this game at Buffalo Wild Wings when I was a kid.
It would be cool if you would make a video on Need for Speed: Top Speed. It was based on Porsche Unleashed and was used to promote the new Cayenne, which is included in the game. It seems to be lost forever, though. I had many memories of playing it on my mom's old PC back in the AOL days.
I've literally never heard of this!
Big fan of all your videos, super excited to see you posting more
glad to have helped out with figuring out controller mappings haha
DUUUDE! I absolutely love hot pursuit 2, so this is right up my alley! Thanks for letting me know about this! I gotta try this out
This video was so much fun to watch
That into is cursed. Why does it sound different 😭
I have played the Underground 1 machine on the Liberty of the Seas Cruise ship very recently. one machine was not playable but they both had crts. there is a vid on my channel of the machine and others
Oh man I remembered I had one of these at my old arcade back before they relocated
Funny thing: there's a random, original, fully functional Carbon arcade cabinet in a shopping mall here where i live in. I haven't been there for long enough to remember the buttons, but i think it's the only change in the cabinet, as they are translated for the normies that more usually go there
Those who have already seen my comments may very well be tired of knowing this, but of all places, this thing can be found in southern Brazil
The "difficulty" option in the service menu affects the difficulty of the time limits, not the AI, which is always that absurd.
I went to a bowling alley a couple days ago and they had a couple arcade cabinets there that worked and a bunch of pinball games but need for speed gt and pump it up were out of order
I only knew about the carbon port, not the other two. Thanks for opening my eyes!
How about racing wheel support? That would be the preferred way to play. Heck, even controller support would be better than keyboard.
I have two Need for Speed GT cabinets both still running GT software I have one of them running GT, underground and carbon. Both have all original Hardware. I'm currently looking into emulating the security dongles. I heard they go bad and to get used ones they're like $300 each. I've tried a couple tutorials on how to do this but nothing has worked yet.
those first 2 need for speeds are legendary also.
Makes sense for a developer who had worked on the game to leave a comment.
I bought the nfs arcade off marketplace for $125 and pun in a new gpu i had laying around and ran great!!
I kept some nfs arcade stuff, u1 and carbon.
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Waiting for NFSUG! Good luck!
Oh boy where to even begin. The whole "frontend ui" you speak of that runs the attract and service modes was very common with GlobalVR games (any 'Vortek' multigame, Nascar, PGA Tour, Madden, Six Gun Select, Twisted Nitro Stunt Racing, Redline Rampage). Furthermore, they all have the "normal copy" of the game files installed much like with NFS (maybe except for Six Gun Select). Because installing this involves messing with system and registry files, playing these games are best done on a virtual machine so the arcade game specific registry and system files are installed there (after all, GlobalVR did not design those computers for consumer usage).
If anything, emulation of the USB I/O boards would also be preferred to so nobody would have to do ridiculous configurations just to play what's seemingly a watered down port on the outside but something unique on the inside (except Nascar because that game is still boring regardless).
P.S. Long live Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune 2
NFS GT also comes with a unique debug .exe, it has some cool functions
Ah, so NFS Carbon arcade did, in fact exist and I did, in fact play it years ago and it wasn't just me misremembering something.
I bet Kuru will be playing this game on his stream xd
Never knew that nfs had arcade games, guess I learned something new today.
Sadly i have no technical skill at the moment but troubleshooting and testing is what ive been doing for a few years now especially with Linux hehehe not as bad as you might think but that still doesn't mean i am scared about terminals
I thought you were making a joke about the Opel Speedster/Vauxhall VX220 basically being a rebadged Elise before I read the text 😂
Okay so I got the game working, but nothing shows up on my desktop. I can only hear the game.
Oh yeah, I have spotted a real version of that machine before, also one that was for Underground.
I think it was New Hampshire near where Funspot was located but a different arcade near the beach.
For the Underground cabinet
But then I remember there was a place with Bumper boats up there and there was one of them that did not work.
But then I remember there was a place with Bumper boats up there and there was one of them that did not work.
Then I remember a diner in Upstate New York that had a working double-wide cabinet, but it seems to have been removed from what I have seen.
YES THANK YOU
awesome, big props
I played a lot of Carbon at the arcade and never used saves once. Hell I might have even tried to, and it just didn’t work. I thought it used a numberpad system like the Fast and Furious games, but apparently they used cards????
I’m so confused. I need to do research on this.
Yep, they used cards. You had to pay like £5 for one as well. Nice little racket Global VR had going on there. They didn't just save your game either though - Global VR had 'tournament play' where if you posted the fastest time on the cabinet you could win a large cash prize.
there's card-based saves for arcade cabinets in Sydney AU right now I see em all the time
good job.. tho ps2 verion on pcsx2 with texture replacement is probs gonna be the only attention nfshp2 will get
What is that wallpaper on your PC? I wanna download it, it looks gorgeous
glad to have been of help for this
It takes "arcade" very literally xD Like PC and consoles version wasn't arcade enough
looks a bit like ridge racer
beast upload
Can we play the old NFS World?
Oh and Motor City Online.. I forgot that game 🤔
@@emaheiwa8174 both are playable nowadays through fan efforts, though nfs world has a much bigger community (look up soapbox race world)
Yes, I was playing it yesterday. Search Soapbox Race World. As for Motor City Online I think so - the tutorial I was following for installing NFS World, the guy had a MCO folder as well.
Shameful how EA treat NFS.
The only need for speed game that needs to be preserved is the original most wanted, maybe underground 2 but forsure most wanted and only most wanted
It is preserved. It's super easy to get your digital hands on any of the console versions or PC.
Was the audio for that EA Games intro different than the retail one or am i being a umbdass
Does this have proper wheel support?
$300 for A GeForce 4 is nasty work
Retro PC gaming is starting to go down the path of retro console shit
No cops?! RIP :(
Hi, I'm your C:\ drive. Thank you for feeding me with NFS GT om nom nom :B
5:05 its pronounced ecksi-CUTE-ible
In a week or two, you might want to consider making a video titled "Preserving a Forgotten Need for Speed *Mobile* Game" ;)
Which??
@@Kaceydotme Check a thread with BREW in the title at the NFSTheories forum in the Public Mobile/Handheld section. There's a hint to what "coming soon"
@@Kaceydotme Check that thread and the latest post in that thread, enjoy
Why so secretive?
@@whereistheguru. It's fun lol. And usually when I directly post links it got deleted
Anyway, the mobile game is NFSUG2 by Ideaworks3D, a bunch builds has been archived by KrZ One, check it out
fucking EA seeing profit in the dying arcade market of 2003 is so funny to me. like yeah it's fair enough that japanese companies like arcsys or capcom still released stuff for arcades even after home consoles reigned supreme but EA?
edit: on another note, the Underground arcade port seems different from the one most of the larger community knows about. Were there really 2 ports or am I stupid?
In fairness, there was still a small market for amusement machines in America, especially driving and sports games. You still find Golden Tee in sports bars, and the Raw Thrills driving games are still going pretty strong. It makes sense from EA's standpoint IMO. GlobalVR did all the additional development and distribution-- all EA had to do was provide a license and dev tools, and collect a check.
It,s just cut pc version of nfs hp 2((((
Too bad the PS2 version wasn't used.
@@troypowers750 ?
@user-bp5py6bh3g this version looks more like the Seattle version and not the Black Box version. Every port, except for the PS2 one, looks like what you see here.
PS2 version is perfect it doesn't need altering 👍🏻
@@vtec5862 never said shit about altering. I mean using the PS2 version for the arcade to make it more memorable.
so this is a weird upgraded non black box version of HP2?
NiC3
So I can play amajorly cut down version of the game with ridiculous handling.
yay?
> discord server
patron exclusive? i can't find a link. :(
It is in the document
@@Kaceydotme invite link dead. Can you please change link?
😊
I do humbly apoligise for my blind ness sorry i could not find the link im a dick.
😊☝ can this be changed from Free play to add coins ?????
No, there’s no way to add coins with the keyboard.
@@Kaceydotme 😢 thats just sad if u builed a arcade machine out of this and that could have happen u could have added coins and connect a coin door
I don't know man, I think Need For Speed: Super is a better Game.
a downgrade from NFSU series. F