Jaden's Endless Extra Deck
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- How many cards are in Jaden's extra deck, at least in the GX anime? Join me as we explore the depths of Jaden's extra deck, and perhaps learn something about the fusion design ethos.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:30 Oddball
01:51 (Classic) Elemental Heroes
04:45 Evil Heroes
05:34 Neos Fusions
08:31 Totals
09:01 Well, technically...
Part 2 when? - Ігри
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Turns out the guy who showed up to a Yu-Gi-Oh tournament with a 2222 card deck was actually Jaden
Yeah
Mischen Impossible, the ultimate troll deck.
And every hand he started with was broken. Or combo worthy.
He laughs at us 40 Deck users who still brick. 😐
Jaden is the character that heard "Wait I can have any number of monsters in my fusion deck?" and decided to make the most out of it.
Meanwhile Astral having all 100 number cards and all their evolutions in his extra deck: "amateurs"
@@yamato9753Lol
@@yamato9753 didn't number cards have the ability to change the rules though?
@@nathanielbass771 Yeah, I remember. They did.
But it is still crazy to think that if he wanted, Astral or Yuma could've bombarded their Opponents with broken cards like Shockmaster and big eye any duel. Or just run them over with beatsticks like Vulcasaurus and Rhongo.
@@yamato9753 strangely, there aren't that many good number cards. Most of them are focused on being a beat-stick. Even Yuma's ultimate monster's thing is that it can survive pretty much any battle and banish an opponent's monster, then it can replace itself with another beatstick to attack again.
Always loved that about Jaden. They chose a great gimmick to focus on for his deck. I never really cared about fusion monsters until the GX era.
Neither did Konami tbh
That is thanks to the head writer, he had the idea to actually focus GX around the fusion mechanic which proved successful and other seasons followed suit with 5ds synchro and Zexels Xyz.
DM never gave a fuck about fusions, that's why GX is more chadly
@@aboundingvampirekiller2048 totally agree.
@@Did_No_Wrong very cool! Know where I can find behind the scenes stuff about GX? It doesn’t seem like there’s a lot of that around for anime.
The presentation of the info via the 3D charts was both genius and impressive! Fun stuff.
I got confused with 2:00 at first
XD
Technically jaiden has a infinite extra deck at least because in the anime super polymerization can just straight up create new cards
I'd like to think that Jaden just put literally every HERO fusion card that he found in there just hording heroes in case he needs them for some weirdly specific tech
the question of "how many fusion monsters can Jaden make?" can be answered by the japanese version of the graduation duel against Zane/Kaiser: "Judai, your potential is limitless"
Also In Duel Monster and GX, without the context of the card game, the duels gives the impression that you can fuse cards as you want, and the duel disks generate the monsters based on what you used.
Right, there's no "card" at all, just a databank they pull materials from.
thanks for speaking for me 4 months in advance. You don't even need to go back to DM. There is simply no extra deck holder like main deck and the anime shows where every card goes for every game interactions.
So you're implying Kaiba implemented a card printer into the duel disks?
I think it's possible that Jaden switched up his extra deck as the series progressed, so the exact amount could be different at any given time
then again the rules varied as if you think about it jaden didnt even this deck it was kaiba and pegasus basicly and they knew how many basic heros there were with fusions
Also, at the time, there was no deck or extra deck limit so he could have just added more cards as the series went on. That's how we got stuff like the mischen impossible deck, also known as the deck with 2222 cards in the main and 222 cards in the extra.
The thing is, Jaden doesn’t use an Extra Deck. He uses a Fusion Deck, which at the time had no limit to the number of cards you could play. We have also seen characters in 5D’s literally create new Synchros midgame, so chances are that Jaden might be doing the same and coming up with fusions on the spot.
Personally I believe that Jaden does create his own fusion monsters, but only when he uses super poly, since it is the ultimate fusion spell it has been shown to create a new monster into existence depending of what the user requires and what materials are available.
A good example is rainbow neos, when judai was fighting agaisnt the possesed Johan it was stated that in order to free him from yubel's control he needed to destroy the field spell and purify rainbow dragon, how did he do that? By using super poly and fusing the rainbow dark dragon with Neos into a monster that had its original abilities. It is very unlikely that Judai had the card in his fusion deck since Johan has the only copy in the world and it was made very recently, meaning that the monster literally came to be thanks to the power of super poly.
What is with these comments who try to "um actually" a video with a fact the guy ALREADY SAID
2:50 my guy click that timestamp and BE AMAZED
@@StarkMaximumHuh. I’m surprised he didn’t mention that until AFTER he talked about the oddball cards.
@@StarkMaximumProbably should have said it in the first minute. Not basically 3 minutes into the video.
@@NecromancyForKids
If you can't watch 30% of the video before trying to correct it thats on you not him :∆
It’s KNEE-O’s. Not Neigh O’s 🐴
I think he’s doing the Japanese pronunciation
@@Edward-jz8ghthat's the credit I wanted to give him until he consistently pronounced the archetype "Knee-Oh Spacian"
🤣
It's my understanding that errors like that are used to drive engagement like this. Now, at least 5 of us are commenting when we had no intention of doing so.
@@stone3706It's the Japanese pronunciation.
It's pretty surprising that even after all these years, they still haven't created the missing fusions between the OG E-Heroes.
today, Konami doesn't want to create anymore a fusion monster that require 2 specific monsters
@@vonakakkola well doesnt need anymore, just need to create one with no especific monster require like the new flame wingman
@@Sam_the_uselles what's the point with the original comment?
@@vonakakkola the point is create a new fusion which WOULD BE the dual fusion from that heros but... with randow hero monsters and with good effect and done
@@vonakakkola don't even need to create "new remakes" of horrible fusions like flame wingman just new fusions with good effects
One thing that suprised me most in this video, is just how many of Jadens fusion cards were made into main deck cards in the actual game
Jaden has an extra deck? I just thought he pulled them out of thin air.
I don't think anime Jaden's extra deck should be mixed in with manga Jaden's extra deck. The manga has a totally different story from the anime with plot elements such as:
1. Jaden's E-HERO deck was given to him by a manga exclusive character named Koyo Hibiki. And a lot of the cards in this deck didn't show up in the anime, opening the gate for new E-HERO fusions such as Terra Firma, Inferno, and the six omni-HERO fusions.
2. Jaden modified the deck throughout the story, mainly adding in the Masked HEROes.
3. Similar to the Jaden vs Yugi duel in the anime, the GX manga had an epilogue-like story involving Jaden with Masked HEROes dueling Koyo Hibiki with E-HEROes. The story ends with Jaden summoning Contrast HERO Chaos (the ultimate Masked HERO monster that's technically not a Masked HERO) and Koyo Hibiki summoning Elemental HERO Core (the upgraded version of Terra Firma). And just like what happened to Neos and Slifer in the anime, the story ends with Chaos and Core facing each other with no declared winner.
Also, a little bit of trivia: Absolute Zero is said to be Koyo Hibiki's "ultimate HERO." That's probably why in the OCG/TCG, its summoning requirements are a bit different and it's actually a lot easier to summon compared to the other omni-HEROes.
I'm a bit of a purist, so I would say the Masked HEROes should probably be counted separately? Or at least only counted alongside the Elemental HERO fusions, since manga Jaden is very different from anime Jaden in a lot of ways, including that he never created and later used Neo-Spacians. Manga Jaden did use a lot of anime E-HEROes though and, let's be honest, Anime Jaden would totally use Masked HEROes as well if he could. lol
Totally agree, it seems unjustified to combine anime Jaden with his manga counterpart.
They should be seperated yes. I mean the Anime and the Manga are two different timelines/dimensions.
According to the rules of the anime/manga, the size of the extra deck is infinite, so Judai/Jaden can have a couple of hundred fusions in the extra deck.
It wasn’t just an animanga rule. It was just how it was at the time to the point that someone brought a 2000+ deck to a tournament. With the limit being made in the first master rule during the synchro era
@@picklemccool4079there's a card based on the two
How about Fusion monsters that we don’t have or potential elemental hero’s fusions that we are missing, like a fusion between avian and clayman, or sparkman and burtsinatrix, and even more, the potential is endless
Ever since I've seen Daigusto Emeral (a combination of Gusto and Gem-Knight), I've always imagined that the Avian-Clayman fusion would look like that. Armored and heavy, but also winged and could probably fly.
I can see Avian having a lot of cool combos with winged themed heroes. Clayman being akin to a winged gargoyle, Sparkman being Stormbird themed Wingman, and Necroshade being maybe Vampire or Raven themed.
Jaden took "extra deck" literally.
Actually wiseman was kinda remade as Elemental HERO Neos Kluger - Ghosts From the Past: The 2nd Haunting pack and he is a fusion.
Again that doesnt chamge the fact that who made jeos wiseman and neo bubbleman effect monsters instead of fusion is big idiot
I remember as a kid I had an elemental hero deck that was basically 1 of every card Jaden ever played (that I owned) and a MASSIVE extra deck with all the fusions.
It was unplayable dogshit because I added all the Neos and Evil heroes too, but it was so awesome
No lie, you had me on the first half
My friend and i made around 15 different decks from anime characters like a yaden, kaiba, yugi... with cards that are exclusively played by them in the anime. Without any support and honestly these decks are more fun to play. In strength similar to decks from goat format, maybe little weaker but style of play is quite similar
I’ve always considered Jaden’s extra deck to be the monsters he can get out consistently, so this means all the E•HERO and Neos Contact fusions + Divine Neos & Wiseman. I don’t usually consider rainbow neos as part of it because he doesn’t really get to use it unless Jesse is there. Same with evil heroes, since they’re supreme king exclusive
The old fusion deck had no limit
Thanks for beating me to it
Forgot a detail in tagforce it had a limit of 36 i think only tagforce 1 to 3
Tag Force 1 and 2 it's 30 because coding limitations.
Tag Force 3 it's 15 cause that's when master rule 1 was already in place (also very early Synchros are in the game)
It was 20 in the GBA era as well, and I recall upper deck events sometimes limiting it to 60
4:43 Watching those E-HERO images attaching to each other is like those patterns in universe size videos that make it clear its larger than you think.
Loved the grid in the first part, would love to see all the manga ones, would probably at least double the total
I missed the one epsidoe where Jayden pulled out Clay Guardian and was so confused how he never pulled it out again. Mind blowing 😂
I absolutely love discussions like this. Fusion Summoning is my third favorite summoning mechanic, and the idea of Jaden being basically the modern era alchemist with all potential different combinations he could make appeals to my more analytical side. It does beg the question as to what Konami could make to fill in all those holes on the 2D chart. As Zane said, his possibilities are endless
"Fusion summoning is my third favorite" Hehe Forgive me but I'm thinking of the whole plot of ARC-V as you say that like "Which dimension are YOU from?" Still kind of wish they made all four dimensions fight on equal ground and had the Yu boys find a way to unify them all than doing the whole "Fusion > XYZ and Synchro is the ref" and kind of pretend Zexal didn't exist cause it was destroyed. Don't get me wrong I love Yuto to death, but the plot focusing on which summoning mechanic was best by making one objectively evil for no reason was odd. (well they were manipulated by Declan's father but still felt like they were trying to make the players throw hands).
Very interesting video! Appreciate your research. Makes you realize how many more cards haven't been made in the TCG yet.
During the GX era, there is no restriction about the number of extra deck card.
They put the restriction, only 15 cards in Extra deck, when Synhcro Monster introduced - 5D era.
very informative video, really appreciated the chart for all the HEROs!
damn the amount of effort with the graphic presentation, u have my like sir
When he brought out the 3D that got my kudos. That was nifty.
Love the presentation!
I hope your channel does well, you should try and take advantage of this momentum, loved the video!
Love the video! I have always been a fan of Jaden's Heroes despite they got butchered in the real life version, especially Divine Neos.
Thank you. Please make the part 2.
7:00 seeing this really got me thinking about how a Yugioh version of mtg's color pie would work. I think you got it mostly on the money, though I'd probably swap the placements of FIRE and WATER, since EARTH and FIRE being ally colors feels more appropriate than EARTH and WATER.
Its still so weird that hummigbird doesnt have a fusion with neos
How he dont have fusion woth neos?
Air neos i fusion of them
@@jakovstojkovic8851 It was only printed in one edition worldwide and twice in Japan. At the end of the first quarter of 2007 in TCG (Strike of Neos), at the end of 2006 in OCG (Strike of Neos) along with a second printing in a special edition (OCG exclusive) shortly after the launch in TCG and strangely at the beginning of 2008 in Korea (Strike of Neos) this being the last time it was printed.
@@brago900 but it again exist
@@jakovstojkovic8851 But for many it does not exist for practical purposes.
@@jakovstojkovic8851 it's a running joke in the community. Air neos hasn't been reprinted since it was released, and it's been absent in a ton of cards that should show it in the art. For example, instant contact is a reference to a frame in the 3rd japanese opening of GX, and it looks exactly the same as the image but with air neos completely gone
I never watched the anime and I don't know how to play Yu-Gi-Oh but I watched this entire video xD
Something about your calm explanation and reading out of all the silly names was soothing
I love your neo space background!!!
I like to believe that in the anime, at least in DM and GX, Fusion Monster cards are literally _created_ as a result of fusion, rather than needing a "fusion deck" which is just a byproduct of making the game work for plebs who don't live in the anime world. There are various examples and counterexamples, especially if you factor in how much of a mess original Duelist Kingdom was in terms of how the actual game is played. I don't think it's necessarily worth dissecting, but it is a fun headcanon.
I have always subscribed to this exact headcanon, and while some shows do show characters holding physical copies of their Extra Deck cards, I still prefer to think they just get manifested on the spot. Makes the whole world seem a little bit cooler and more fantastic.
You have scenes where both Yugi on DM and Jaden on GX look at their decks in a table,card for card,and we can see that the Fusions Cards exists. The animators always skipped the protagonist searching for the Fusion Card in the Fusion (Extra) Deck and we have to assume that they put the fusion card on the Duel Disk while the animation of both or more monster getting sucked into the Polymerization portal happens.
Jaden doesn't have an extra deck he has a Fusion Deck
Darkness Neosphere feels like it should have a "This does not count as a "Neos" monster" clause
I think it was an accident.
I don’t think neosphere works for summoning divine neos. Could be wrong, but they usually use “neos” or elemental hero neos
@@vexzel5550darkness neospheres japanese name contains the same kanji as e hero neos
Ｅ・ＨＥＲＯ ネオス
ダークネス・ネオスフィア
Thus does count as a "neos" monster for divine neos' summon.
@@nutkicker12 amazing. Though I imagine not intentional as it doesn’t have any good synergy in a neos or hero deck Lowl
@@vexzel5550 yeah. Its basically the samr case with Dark Jeroid, Magical Android, E-HERO Necroid Shaman, etc. technically being -roid monsters but have nothing to do or synergies with Roids (Expressroid being the only one that even interacts with non-machine roids)
There's a skill in Duel Links that adds over 15ish elemental heroes fusion monster into your extra deck.
great video!
Imagine dark panthers nex version looking at your opponents hand and ed and then choosing 1 monster among them or monster they control to copy name and effect from.
this was my thought exaclty! We should also discuss other protagoninsts too, that spammed a lot of extra deck monsters, more than 15 for sure...
Darkness Neosphere showing up slapped me, I did not think of that counting at all but it does
I appreciate your inclusion of Darkness Neoshere, the best Neos card
Me:So how big is ur extra deck, Jaden?
Jaden:.....Yes
Really fun video, next would it be possible to try get a 15 card fusion deck list over time (ie starts with the main hero fusions, then some are subbed out for the neos fusions, then more changes throughout later seasons). Would be an interesting one to see
I remember when Aster summoned Phoenix Enforcer and me and my friends went crazy 😂
In the anime they don't have the concept of 'extra deck' as we do in TCG, they can summon any appropriate fusion at any time if they have the materials.
Plus at the time the card game itself also did not have a limit of cards in the main and extra deck. With the limit only being made during the synchro era
Although he's never used OG Pheonix Enforcer (because he didn't know it existed), you could still add it to the possible list of fusions.
As well as Shining Phoenix Enforcer
Here’s to hoping they finish all the combinations. Always loved collecting the Ehero cards
Is that the oddball aura from runescape as the background for the oddball section on the video? Nice touch!
oh, I would be curious to see how many fusion monsters Jaden could add to his current deck. I am still hoping for some missing fusions like Evil Hero Counterparts for Mariner or Steam Heater and misisng fusion combinations like Bladedge + Avian. Maybe Konami can make them worth using.
No bg music?
Jaden is literally the king of fusions
Jaden is a ruthless card printing machine. He is so strong that he can creat new cards in his duels as he see fit. Like in the movie bonds beyond time he also created a new fusion
They did make a retrain of neos wiseman that IS fusion so it counts (look there are multiple cards in duel monsters and GX that became links in TCG including (for some reason) defender of the labyrinth so it’s fair game)
This video reminds me of the first time I saw a skill in duel links that adds a crap ton of fusions to Jaden’s extra deck. Freaking scared me
Fusion cards doesn't really seem to exist in the anime as every other card does. They only ever seem to appear on the duel disks when summoned. Like one of the fusion material cards turns into the card
Honey! Wake up! New TCGTheory video!!!
yes the do
and when are we getting the yellow masked hero
This brings up one more importend thing. Where do they all store there extradecks? As we know a dueldisc has the 5 monster + 5 trap/spellcard + one fieldspell slot. At least the deckplace and the graveyard and thats it. Where ar the extra cards?
Hi there mate. when do we get the next Tierlist for the core sets?
And after 20 years I collected all of them in different rarity 😍
Every extra deck monsters in Yugioh anime since the start is basically tool for plot armors lol to activate the effect whatever needed to win the games. But worst one got to be Yuya, he created a whole type of summoning mechanic mid duel on the 1st eps
In some old mechanics/rules in anime, primarily at Battle City, the Fusion Material would just stays on the field, just the hologram that got fused and becoming the Fusion monsters.
Aside from that, maybe he just swapped some Fusions for others to try other Fusions with other E-HEROs or people called it "siding"
I think the first Tag Force Game and maybe the second too had a Fusion Deck of 30. Metamorphosis was not even at 0 in TF1 so you had extra options. In TF3 it was already called Extra Deck then because it has Synchro Monsters in it and this was still technically a GX Game covering the last season of GX.
I've always just thought there is no extra deck in the anime, a little like how forbidden memories works but with poly
Yo @tcgrheory do you play RuneScape because that background in your video is an aura from RuneScape if I’m not mistaken
Also, he uses the ones that don't care about names in the manga like tornado, gaia, abso and the fire (heat + lady) one. I think he actually summons Escuiardo in the mage once too. That could also be part of part 2.
I'd likely consider his extra deck to be at least double what's stated in this video. In this video we cover only cards wek now exist, but that chart of fusions shows how many likely other fusions exist but simply were never needed for any duel.
I know they didn’t exist at the time, but there are 2 more Ultimate Crystal monsters. The two Pendulum monsters for that archetype.
Burtinatrix and avian also does phoenix enforcer
Bro, Yugi was literally drawing the one card that looked custom every time he'd be losing that's perfect for that exact situation. Jaden has his extra deck instead.
Dont forget about the Alternate Heros Aster played
The amazing thing about his deck is 2 key card. Super Poly and Neos,which is Neos can fusion with any GX ace card and Super Poly can create Omni Heroes.
In season 3 Jaden unveiled some cool fusion monsters but only used some once, plasma vice chaos neos marine neos storm neos etc
"Knegh-Ohs"
That irked me when it really shouldn't have.
Neos is "Nee-Ohs"
everyone knows that jaden has every fusion monster in the game in his extra deck
Leaving out Nebula Neos which is probably the best Neos fusion outside of Neos Knight.
I'm of the opinion that at least at that point in the universe there were not specific separate cards for the fusion monsters. They would simply come into existence whenever you got a fusion combo that was valid
Back then it was in Yugioh and GX it was the fusion deck and it had no limit when Synchro Is when it became Extra Deck with a 15 limit
Jaden and Yuma breaking the 15 Card ED rule
May I suggest doing yumas endless extra deck next
Wish I we seen a Burstinatrix/Sparkman fusion
You should do this for all the other Yugioh protagonist too!!
That's why ppl liked fusion including me
Polymerization+2+ monsters = strong
I don't think there was an extra deck during gx. The fusion deck didn't originally have a card limit, and gx basically went off that. 40 is lower then I expected.
Im kinda surprised there was never a "shining" version for Inferno Wing, considering how Flamewing-Man and Phoenix-enforcer got this.
If the Supreme King arc went longer I imagine it would show up.
Heroes/neo space are still my favorite archetypes.
In the first season, he only used around 14 to 15 fuaion monsters. Each had specific requirements. However, as later seasons happened, his extra deck exploded.
What is an air neos? Never heard about such a fanmade card
Masked HEROes should only count if you do this video again specifically for manga-Judai.
At first I thought he was going to ask how many different cards he used in his main deck. It is kind of a good question.
How many cards would be in each protagonist's extra deck if we did count. Based on how many monsters they have used from the extra deck throughout the show and/or manga
And it was teased that there were nex forms and neos + nex form fusions ofr every atribute, but they scraped the idea
sorry maybe i missed it, but was phoenix enforcer mentioned?
That was Aster's card
They actually limited the extra deck when synchros came out, because they realized what they had done, synchro monsters were a huge band aid as well as a new summoning mechanic, when the GX manga came out they actually changed dark arm dragon and light end dragon from effect monsters to synchro monsters which was bad news for chazz because he had no tunners but you missed the masked heros and wake up your elemental hero, the newest elemental hero fusion monster and elemental hero flame wingman infernal rage, plus e hero sunrise, e hero inferno, nebula neos, e hero nova master, there's a lot more
LOL the oddball aura from RS3 HAHAHAH
You only ever see him carry the one deck though, never the fusion deck. I suspect that the fusions are built into the game somehow, or the fusion cards act more like a fetch card when certain conditions are met (ie cast polymerization to combine X and Y, search your deck for the corresponding Fusion).