I love my boy JayJay, but for his own mental health I'd rather have him lose this duel. For so long he couldn't afford to lose a duel, or the world would be damned. By losing a duel and seeing that nothing bad happened and nothing of value was lost, he can finally relax and enjoy dueling again.
The anime's "Dark Renewal" doesn't say it has to be in Attack Position, so Yugi could've summoned "Slifer the Sky 🐉" in Defense Position (forcing monsters to attack it if summoned that way).
Pretty much this. In the later half of GX, every single duel was either win or the world is destroyed. That's takes it toll on you. He needs to lose so that he can see that not every duel is a win or die situation and he can enjoy it. In a way, most of Yugi's duels were like that. That's probably why they both laughed at how serious they were taking the duel.
Added bonus: Slifer Red was the dorm Jaden was in for three years, so the final shot of the duel is Jaden's ace attacking a monster that represents his time at DA.
Also, Pharaoh/Yugi's main card was Slifer; after those 3 cards were presented to the serie. So, I'd expect him to summon Slifer The Executive Producer the most, other than Ra's Chicken or Obelisk.
@@nearzero12 I think him beating Slifer, but losing in the end, shows him both moving in from DA, and Slifer Red, but still acknowledging he can still move forward.
Just as a fun fact: In Duel Links, if you use Jaden Yubel against Yami Yugi and lose, Jaden will say the same phrase that he said at the end of GX, so... Technically that could explain how the duel ended
@@QuranAndDawah01 Can Tribe King MegaMan StarForce 2 Beat Both Jaden And Yugi/Atem?!I Think So!I Believe In The Heart Of The Battle Cards!LeoKingdomGX=Ra!PegasusMgcGX=Obelisk!DragonSkyGX=Slifer!Le Mu=Exodia/Horakthy!MEGA MAN STARFORCE FTW!!!!
@@impieman10 Destiny Draw is more of a meta strategy than Ties that Bind though, if we're talking about Duel Links. If anything, Ties that Bind is a rogue strategy lol
Althought we never see the conclusion of the duel, I love how it "ends" just because of how simbolic it is. During the entire series, Slifer Reds are underestimated and considered as inferiors by the rest of the Duel Academy. However, in this final duel, Jaden faces Slifer itself and sees how immensely powerful he is (let's not forget that, in the original series's final duel of Yugi vs Atem, Slifer is the key for defeating the other two gods).
I never thought about it until now but why does yugi shot gun using thousand knives? He could have just destroyed bubble man with Celtic then attack with dark magic and saved thousand knives for main phase 2 if any new monsters showed up like how neos did
Yugi has been known to be a staller. Magical hats + Sword of Revealing Light . Yata Yata Yata. Summon Obelisk + Ra.. Believe me, Yugi Muto is a hustler, he stacked cards amazingly
Yugi has a track winning against someone after receiving one of his cards. Yes the time wizard thing was bs but against Seto and Atem was pretty sweet on baiting them to use monster reborn.
i actually completely agree with this analysis. Yugi probably pulled it out by bringing out obelisk at some point. And when he was sent back to the present he probably re-challenged current yugi and won against him.
If Jaden sumons Yubel ultimate nightmare after yugi brings out obelisk, which btw all of the cards he only used in this duel involved milling, he can take yugi out easily. I repeat, Obelisk is NOT AN AUTOMATIC WIN if Yugi summons it for this reason.
Id most definitely argue that Jaden lost the duel. Cause he kept winning over and over again and lost the fun he had, the best way for him to regain the fun is for him to lose. This gives Jaden new heights to strive for, and a new path for his dueling journey to surpass the person who finally beat him.
I think Jaden loses the duel but that doesn’t mean he’s lost everything. The point of this duel was to heavily emphasize the fact that he regained his love for dueling which is why the full duel wasn’t shown, because it didn’t matter all that mattered was character development for Jaden. I would however, love to see the duel in a movie or something.
This, the duel wasn't meant to have a defined winner. Its just a proxy for Jaden to rediscover what he loves, much like meeting your childhood hero and them telling you not to quit when things get rough. The fact that he faced a god card adds to this more since its represents an obstacle at its peak in dueling.
The anime's "Dark Renewal" doesn't say it has to be in Attack Position, so Yugi could've summon "Slifer the Sky 🐉" in Defense Position (as it forces monsters attacking to attack it if summoned that way).
Yugi: "You're a duelist, aren't you?" Jaden: "Yep, I'm going to try out for the Academy." Yugi: "Hehe, you don't say." Yugi already met Jaden and had to set him on the path to meet him in the past. It also explains how Jaden bumped into him. He *knew* that Jaden would come, so he came to greet him
I feel like Jaden lost. He's vague about it, but when a character - especially an anime character - says "I'm going to get stronger and fight you again...!" It's pretty much always after a loss. Plus, his facial expression doesn't exactly read as "I just won a card game between friends," it looks more like he's thinking "I need to get better and set the standard higher for myself." I think the main reason Yugi kinda yeeted Jaden into a pocket dimension wasn't necessarily because he was in his prime at that point in time, which I'm somewhat uncertain of what that would mean, but like...hm... Think of it like this: he wanted Jaden to go back to dueling for fun. So he prolly wanted a duel that had ridiculous scaling, yeah? A duel that'd be comparable to a rollercoaster. One that would have it's own twists and turns, which it absolutely does. I mean, this is prolly one of the duels in Yugioh that have the most debates centered around it. I'm going to phrase this kinda stupidly, but; my speculation is that after he lost to Yugi, Jaden went back to the present and Yugi told'im "YOU'RE the protag now!!" Jaden says, "Awesome...!!!" ...and then his series ends. Sounds perfect to me. Also, uh-... It's really funny for me to imagine an abridged series that gets to this ending and shows Jaden saying he'll get stronger, he'll challenge him again and that he'll never give up! Then he says some shit like, _"...Also...where the fuck am I...?"_
"I think the main reason Yugi kinda yeeted Jaden into a pocket dimension wasn't necessarily because he was in his prime at that point in time", I agree with this. Yugi sent Jaden back to where the Pharaoh was still present. Yugi knew a duel with the best duelist ever would give Jaden the chills and make him regain what he has lost.
@@poloy7051 Well Jayden had the problem of not enjoying duels as much and Yugi came "looking for sonething" he "didnt know" he lost. I'm pretty sure he was there because he was in a rut with dueling too. He came to reminisce through the old days of his deck and ran into a soul m8ee in need. He didn't go back in time to be "in his prime" as it was hinted that Yugi had grown better than Atem at strats, so his prime would probably be somewhere after Atem left him. He probably went back in time to be with Atem and duel alongside him vs a worthy opponent like in "the good old days". Maybe a card in his deck still had the Egyptian magic to help him do that? lols idk
Screw all of you I think Jaden won. Plus he is the one who is ment to surpass the last king of games. The is no way to prove that unless he beats the king of games Atem. Not Yugi, Nobody considers Yugi better than Atem so yes it has to be Jaden Yugi doesn't count we all know in our hearts Atem is always the better duelist and the only way be better is beating Atem.
@@trueyuen3710 Yeah he can do it now. That event happened before GX. Also it is well known that Atem has the "heart of the cards" on his side, he is always going to drawn whats needed
I think Jaden loses this duel from purely a narrative standpoint. He has spent the last 3 years with life or death duels, and pretty much every duel in year 3 fit that category, he couldn't lose, or else. Not only does this duel get him to love duel monsters again, I think he lost in the past to help remind him that 99% of the time, losing is okay. I think this duel helped him with what I assume to be trauma from the past year of consistently saying, "I can't lose this or I lose my friends/life/only chance at...etc.
If we look at the facts, Jaden isn't shown to attack and I don't think he would choose to as that would cause him to lose. Jaden is a lot of things but bad at card games isn't one of them. He wouldn't make a play that would cause him to lose when there are better alternatives. So Jaden ends his turn. Yugi loses Slifer. The only monster Yugi has in hand that can be played is Kuriboh. Jaden has double lethal on board. I don't see how Yugi can win. Certain draws could change things but based on what cards we know are in play, Yugi has no way of winning whereas Jaden does. I honestly don't know why anyone would think Yugi has a chance here. Literally everything points towards Jaden winning. "But Jaden says he'll get stronger. Why would he say that if he won?" Why would he say Gotcha if he lost? Both lines were likely written so as to not point to either result but if we're going off what cards are in play, Yugi cannot win the duel.
@@denniswilliams6519 its the anime dude. Where you can summon blue eyes without tributes and cant summon Ra without reading a foreign langaugr and if you cant resd it he zaps you, carry on.
@@denniswilliams6519 well IRL gods don't have protection to card effects, except for Obelisk only for the tribute summon, so yeah. IRL any and all traps would beat the gods.
@@nasirbone979Blue eyes could only be summoned by original anime rules. Kaiba was the one who invented tributing for battle city rules. Ra is a god, not a card in the anime, of coarse he would zap you.
@@denniswilliams6519 god cards are affected by anything that doesn't remove them from the field outright, so yes, yugi did beat them correctly by draining their attack.
I like the end of GX so much for the ending. It’s left vague and it’s done on purpose. It’s the reason it’s so good. And it’s a fantastic duel overall too. The final cinematic shot is also a great symbol for jaden. It’s his ace going against the mascot for the dorm that housed him for three years. Symbolic of his end at the academy and onto new paths
@@cbbblue8348 but what about Yugi Muto Dark Magician/Magician Girls/Gadget/Tribute Summon/Magnet Warrior/God Cards/Fusion summon Chimera/Watapon/Kuriboh/Silent Cards/Archfiend of Gilford/DESTROY THE MOOOOOON/Ritual BLS Hybrid? It’s way better
kiba only want to gain king of games ???don't know the rival.5ds did my research no rivals other the the king. Zexel same as 5ds. arc v war. vrain same as 5ds and Zexel
I kind of favor Yugi at this point too. It just makes more narrative sense for Jaden to lose. If he wins, he has accomplished the highest dueling achievement possible, but the purpose of the duel is to return his love of dueling. The most powerful way of doing that would be for him to lose, so he still has goals to strive for. It also thematically fits with him no longer needing to duel to survive. I actually think he straight up did attack into Slifer because he had already gotten what he needed from that duel and was ready to return to the present having regained what he had lost.
If we look at the facts, Jaden isn't shown to attack and I don't think he would choose to as that would cause him to lose. Jaden is a lot of things but bad at card games isn't one of them. He wouldn't make a play that would cause him to lose when there are better alternatives. So Jaden ends his turn. Yugi loses Slifer. The only monster Yugi has in hand that can be played is Kuriboh. Jaden has double lethal on board. I don't see how Yugi can win. Certain draws could change things but based on what cards we know are in play, Yugi has no way of winning whereas Jaden does. I honestly don't know why anyone would think Yugi has a chance here. Literally everything points towards Jaden winning. "But Jaden says he'll get stronger. Why would he say that if he won?" Why would he say Gotcha if he lost? Both lines were likely written so as to not point to either result but if we're going off what cards are in play, Yugi cannot win the duel.
@@ZyrusSmith since Millenium Puzzle lets Atem draws any card he wants from the deck, I would assume that he drew Monster Reborn, then used it to bring out Slifer and attacked for endgame (in a similar way that he did against Yugi at Ceremonial Duel).
@@ZyrusSmith Facts, sure. But since when was the show ever about facts? The give cards different effects on occasion, or just outright fabricate a card specifically for the Anime. I highly doubt they would care if Yugi could win or not, simply speaking as a plot device: Jaden WOULD lose the duel. From a strict narrative point, it gives Jaden the motivation to keep learning, evolving and restores his love for dueling. If this was a genuine duel that happened either online, or at a tournament(with the sheer amount of luck they had to match)...then yes. Who was ever in Jaden's position would have 100% won UNLESS something wild happens and whoever is in Yugi's position just pops off because...."the heart of the cards" and some how just manages to whip put an insane combination out of no where with whatever cards he has and drew. Also, nice copy/paste bud.
But present Yugi would have been the one who defeated even Atem right? So hypothetically, he may not be the most powerful Yugi, but he could be the most skilled.
If we look at the facts, Jaden isn't shown to attack and I don't think he would choose to as that would cause him to lose. Jaden is a lot of things but bad at card games isn't one of them. He wouldn't make a play that would cause him to lose when there are better alternatives. So Jaden ends his turn. Yugi loses Slifer. The only monster Yugi has in hand that can be played is Kuriboh. Jaden has double lethal on board. I don't see how Yugi can win. Certain draws could change things but based on what cards we know are in play, Yugi has no way of winning whereas Jaden does. I honestly don't know why anyone would think Yugi has a chance here. Literally everything points towards Jaden winning. "But Jaden says he'll get stronger. Why would he say that if he won?" Why would he say Gotcha if he lost? Both lines were likely written so as to not point to either result but if we're going off what cards are in play, Yugi cannot win the duel.
The ending to the GX series is actually deep. Basically... Jaden was turned into an adrenalin junkie due to him basically only playing and literally gambling with his life. How could dueling regularly match that sort of thrill/terror?
This honestly gets weird when you consider Yugi didn't seem to lose that spark despite how much he had on the line in his show too. Same with Yusei (can't speak for the other shows, didn't watch them.)
@@perrytran9504 Yugi and Yusei had better relationship with their friends than Judai did, actually. Despite having so many high tension duels they noticably still has better life outside of just dueling and have friends that treat them equally and actually personally know them. Judai is not really a jerk loner, but none of his friends seems to be very close to him. They either call him aniki, treat him as a rival, or only work together because of duty. The closest thing he has to equal friend is Johan, who he rarely meet. He has nothing outside of dueling, and eventually even the dueling that he loves so much become a stressful duty. It's a surprisingly an interesting take of battle maniac happy guy stereotype.
Yugi and Atem also got to share the mental load. Whether it’s their general relationship, or them swapping back and forth during the Pegasus duel, etc, they always had a peer in their corner.
To me it was simplier: Jaden really attacked Slifer and that's when he lost. Because that duel wasn't about winning as Jaden's previous duels were (causing him to become numb on playing). So, he simply brawled out with a *real* god, held by the real King, no matter the result; and that was the "ultimate moment" as Jaden himself stated.
I agree it wasn’t about winning, it was about the feeling! Jaden grew numb and looked like he was on a path to not being interested in dueling. This duel fueled his drive and motivation. Jaden losing and promising Yugi he’d get stronger indicates he lost the duel but won something more valuable in return
It was so obviously implied yugi won by what jaden says, cmon! But for real battle analysis, yes he can contact fusion flare neos but he goes back to the extra deck during the end phase (actually doesnt have to with the field spell) Which is actually GOOD as if he doesn't, atem can draw monster reborn, revive slifer with 5000 attack and attack either neos or the other weak monster for game. So by contact fusioning flare neos and it returning to the extra deck, slifer can only attack the 4600 flare wingman, which would mean jaden survives, slifer goes to grave and the duel continues. So this is jaden's only option unless u can contact fusion together neos + flare wingman? But even then slifer can still attack the weaker monster so I don't think that works. So jaden has to contact fusion flare neos so it can return to the extra deck. But then atem can choose to draw brain control instead, he can take flare wingman and attack jaden for game - ua-cam.com/video/bHUX0PuAhD4/v-deo.html
@@nickmp516 No one is saying that Jaden is stupid; he knew he'd lose by attacking, but did so intentionally to prove to Yugi and himself that he no longer felt a need to win every single duel, and that he was back to playing just for fun.
Official Real Ending: Team Rocket shows up and steals Yugi's and Jaden's Deck, however, one card was unaffected by thievery. As team rocket attempted to flee, Yugi's Silfer attacked Team Rockets' balloon and sent them blasting off again. As the cards rained down, both Yugi and Jaden agreed the duel could not continue as the playing state has been altered. Yes, I did more research than TGS Anime did. Don't look at me like that.
Nah you got it wrong team rocket wouldn’t be stopped by yugi and jaden they would be stopped by ash and everyone and then yugi, jaden, and ash would all become friends and fight with Pokémon and cards
According to the the trivia page of Slifer on the wiki, a possible set of effects for the anime Slifer would not include the rule of coming back to the graveyard at the end of the turn, but that Slifer it is only affected by spells for one turn. Therefore, because Slifer was revived with a trap, not a spell, then it would have stayed on the field at the end of the turn. This would also explain why Slifer stayed on the field during the ceremonial duel, because it was summoned with a trap (Summoning Clock).
@@Griggs58bro the real effects of the god cards in the anime is that yugi can make up new abilities on the spot if you watched Duel monsters you know what I mean
TGS anime, would you consider doing duel breakdowns like this but for duels that we see completed as well? I love the detail and explainations and some games get really confusing with duel action taking the front focus and not game mechanics. Yugi Vs. Dartz still confuses me at multiple stages, and yes I know that it's a filler arc full of ridiculous shenanigans and when you get to infinity points logic is gone. I'm confused too as to why the knights attack the main shinurous monster to weaken it but then Yugi uses mirror force anyways but also only takes small amounts of life point damage attacked the biggest beat stick ever to that point
One duel which I just got reminded of was Kaiba vs. Ishizu. We know it ended with Kaiba winning because he tributed Obelisk for Blue Eyes... but what if Ishizu ignored her own prophecy before that? Kaiba at some point has no monsters and sets Soul Exchange hoping Ishizu summons a third monster so he can get out Obelisk. Ishizu however could've just attacked him directly with her existing two monsters and killed him then without even using Blast Held by Tribute (BHbt). I guess Kaiba could've used Soul Exchange in response to tribute just her two monsters for Blue Eyes (also in his hand at the time), but then it would be targeted by BHbT and now he has no good way of getting out Obelisk... or does he? We don't know what else Ishizu has in her hand or deck, but the wiki said Kaiba had Flute of Summoning Dragon, Silent Doom, Ring of Destruction, and Obelisk. His deck is also limited to whatever cards were previously in his graveyard, so we know it only has Kaiser Glider, Polymerization, Shrink, and Vorse Raider (Crush Card and Virus Cannon were also there but already dealt with.) From here I can see one way of winning. When his turn starts, Ishizu should have no cards on the field except BHbT targeting Blue Eyes, though she could've summoned something in main phase 2. I'll assume she either doesn't, or does in attack mode to bait Blue Eyes. If Kaiba draws Kaiser Glider (very good odds with only 4 cards in his deck), he could use Silent Doom to summon Lord of Dragons, Flute of Summoning Dragon to get out Kaiser Glider, and then tribute his three monsters for Obelisk, removing the threat from BHbT. Ishizu would not be ready and even with a monster to defend, she would probably lose from his attack with only 1400 life points remaining. If he draws anything else though he's probably fucked even with Blue Eyes as a wall if he chooses not to attack. Edit: I'm a fool and forgot Kaiba drew Polymerization on his last turn. Unless he cheats to draw something not on the top he can't do the combo I just mentioned to get out Obelisk in one turn. He could however force a draw with Ring of Destruction as embarassing at that'd be.
The anime really focused on Yugi only using Slifer even though he had all 3 god cards to give another connection to Jaden due to him being a Slifer Red student
Assuming Jaden ends his turn and Slifer goes back, the resources don't look that great for Atem. And since we don't see the end, we can only imagine what might have happened. However, there is a card Atem hasn't used yet which I imagine would be the card on top of the deck: Pot of Greed.
"Yugi, I'll become much stronger and until that time comes... Thank you, Yugi! Gotcha! That was a fun duel." Jaden lost and that's okay. He spent season 3 and 4 knee deep in death duels with life of his friends on the line. Once a hobby that he greatly loved turned into obligation with failure not being an option. He suffered from PTSD and clearly dueled like his life dependent on it in the last season. Yugi reaching out to him and awakening the long lost feeling of enjoying the game just for the sake of it worked much better for his character and the story than a victory ever could. Jaden was frustrated throughout the duel that Yugi managed to respond to his move, but as time went by his frustration turned into pure child-like glee. He lost, but in the end that clearly wasn't important to him since he loved that he got an opportunity to duel his childhood idol.
True! I do see Jaden eventually defeating Yugi, one day; successor of him/next King of Games and all. But I see that happening in a later duel, where he's already reclaimed his love of dueling and a healthier emotional state in general.
@@ganoninthepit I know it’s just a game but Yusei’s win/lose quotes especially for Yugi & Judai are interesting overall and ensuing what if scenarios for everybody else.
Season 4 is literaly saying: Oh, you know that characters with nothing of development and forgotten well lets develop them but in just one episode and give more Spotlight to Jaden
Wasn't that movie sort of adapted for season 2 when they went to domino city for a few episodes? I would much preffer they do a Dark Side of Dimensions type of movie for GX so we can see how the characters progressed in the future
Option 1 jaden lost and takes it in his stride as a breakthrough that he can enjoy the game again after all he has been through, option 2 he wins and seeing one of his idols accept the loss with a smile on his face he realises you don't have to win them all
Funny thing about this duel is that Code Change could’ve been used to summon Obnoxious Celtic Guard instead but Atem really wanted to show Judai respect.
My guy, you are awesome when it comes to the analytical side of Yu-Gi-Oh and should play off of that. You are also the only one who does the deep dive research needed to piece together the story of the cards. You are starting to turn out more content which is awesome because when you do turn out content it's always quality. Cheers mate
Judai said at the end, "I'll become much stronger and when the time comes .." he'll try his hand at that duel again. If he lost (which I assume he did based on what he says), it gives him something to shoot for, something to look forward to. If he won, what good would it do? He said all that mattered was he had fun and that was the point.
That’s why I think it makes more sense for him to lose. It’s a better story for him as a character to have still regained the loving of dueling through a loss than to win and to just love winning
Thematically jaden had to lose and realize it’s ok to lose, he needed to understand that duels aren’t always “end of the world” type ordeals and sometimes it’s ok to just slow down and enjoy the game.
@@ShadowArabesque Wish Seto learned that too but he had to rip the fabric of space just to challenge a dead pharoah in the after life who probably has access to Exodia right now.
Something about Yugi's unblinking eyes during some of the scenes here always bothered me. Maybe it is because his are rounded and bigger than Jaden's (and a decent number of GX characters).
Yugi didn't choose obelisk the tormentor to add to hand by the effect of jaden's magic card because it said "add three MONSTERS from deck..." and obelisk is not a monster... it's a GOD!
14:15 Yugi is in fact able to do this. Dark Renewal in the TCG might specify the summoning of a DARK Spellcaster, but the anime version's effect just says "Spellcaster", so yeah changing it to "Divine Beast" is indeed enough to summon Slifer.
I'm still in the yugi winning camp. It shows that jaiden has more to learn despite all he went through and its better than just him getting the crown and the show being over
Me to I thought Yugi Won because slifer had 5,000 attack points while jadens neos had 2500 he attacked slifer he would’ve taken more damage then the amount of life points he had I think Jaden lost
If we look at the facts, Jaden isn't shown to attack and I don't think he would choose to as that would cause him to lose. Jaden is a lot of things but bad at card games isn't one of them. He wouldn't make a play that would cause him to lose when there are better alternatives. So Jaden ends his turn. Yugi loses Slifer. The only monster Yugi has in hand that can be played is Kuriboh. Jaden has double lethal on board. I don't see how Yugi can win. Certain draws could change things but based on what cards we know are in play, Yugi has no way of winning whereas Jaden does. I honestly don't know why anyone would think Yugi has a chance here. Literally everything points towards Jaden winning. "But Jaden says he'll get stronger. Why would he say that if he won?" Why would he say Gotcha if he lost? Both lines were likely written so as to not point to either result but if we're going off what cards are in play, Yugi cannot win the duel.
@@zaydsnaynay6736 Yugi had 5 bricks and we never saw Neos attack. Jaden could have ended his turn which would be his best play which is why I think he didn't attack.
Honestly, his ending walk-off really only makes sense if he lost. Because it means his journey isn't over yet and he still has more to learn and grow from. Which would be nice because he had a feeling of stagnation in the final season. This gives him purpose again.
I love this type of duel analysis. Breaking down duels and the thought process behind the duelists is an awesome concept. This video got me to sub to you, definitely should make more like this.
To me the fact that Jaden looks at the sky after the duel and says "I will get stronger" tells me that he lost. Also "successor" does not always mean someone becoming better than the former. It just means he takes over the title, as in maybe Yugi had a wife and some kids and retired...
Here's another idea for one of these Yu-Gi-Oh Analysis video, and it might be the most difficult one; the unseen duel between Yugi and Joey at the end of the Battle City Tournament.
Hot hott take indeed. But that was early in yugioh and joey was really rising the ranks I beleive it was a draw or a win for joey. If yugi let him win is another thing. But im certain of this. Atem is stubborn and would only want to see there best friend gain respect and there red eyes back in a legitimate way and not just hand it back to him. It goes against his character. Based on that alone it HAS to have been a draw or JOEY WON
@@Jiron127 gave ?? Why he said joey must duel him for it at the end of battle city to see how far he has come. Yugi would not just give it back to him.
@@SKR-97 That's because Jaden is not, nor was he ever, considered an "underdog". Underdog implies that he is not the favorite to win, that everyone has already counted him out. Jaden is the exact opposite of that, to the point where the entire universe functions only to give Jaden free wins left and right. Being in Slifer Red doesn't make Jaden an underdog, it's a flimsy plot device that tries to make him look like an underdog in order to make him more believable, relatable, and likable as a protagonist, when no one really believes that Jaden's dueling ability is reflective of his dorm color.
Juden's arch honestly a trip. He is your typical happy-go-lucky guy that is oblivious that people around him hating on him, and it is honestly very entertaining to watch people around him get pissed at how dense he is. Then the writer give him trauma, wow. Then he tried to recover his younger, happier day, like wow.
So counting out all the cards drawn and played until the duel is cut short, Yugi and Jaden both have already gone through half their decks. Yugi has drawn 21 cards already and Jaden has drawn 28, not counting his Fusion Monsters since they came from the Fusion deck. We already know for certain that Yugi has all 3 God cards in his deck at the start of the duel and since he has the Ritual Monster version of Black Luster Soldier we can assume he has Black Luster Ritual and he has Valkyrion and Alpha so the other Magnet Warriors should also be in his deck. So we know for certain 25 cards out of his 40 card deck and since he has the God cards we can MAYBE be generous and say we know 28 because a common strategy Yugi uses to summon the God cards is to bring out King, Queen, and Jack's Knight. Over on Jaden's side, let's assume he wouldn't go in without all the other Neo-Spacians since this Duel doesn't happen too long after the Duel with Darkness so we can add all of those Monsters and Yubel. After those cards however it's purely speculation, he could have the Winged Kuriboh LV monsters and Transcendent Wings and that's 2 or 3 cards, or since he had a single support card like Spark Blaster he could have Bubble Blaster and Bubble Shuffle but we just don't know. Either way, we know 33 of Jaden's cards if we're to assume he brought in the other Neo-Spacians and Yubel. Technically Jaden should only have 7 cards left to speculate on you say and Yugi 12, EXCEPT if we're being VERY generous and give the artists the benefit of the doubt here, when Subspace Battle is activated we can see what's left of both Duelist's decks when they pick their 3 Monsters, and counting each card tells us that Yugi and Jaden are playing a 41 and 43 card deck respectively. So we know that Yugi has 13 cards and Jaden has 10 that we can only guess are in their decks, but we can say that comparatively Yugi has a small advantage of getting cards he wants since he has 2 less cards than Jaden. So honestly, in my opinion, I want Jaden to win but I really think Yugi would still win this. Yugi has just a tiny edge over Jaden when it comes to card advantage with just 1 extra card rather than 3 and when I think about it, I feel compared to Jaden that those 13 cards he has could be a lot more suited to his strategy of bringing the God cards out for a fast win while the 10 Jaden has could just be anything considering how often, including this Duel, he uses one off cards that never get played again.
@@gregelcompa1111 Wrong and impossible! At this point of the Duel, Atem had Magnet Valkirian, his ritual Chaos Magician + another high LV Monster (none of them can be normal summoned). If Exodia were in his Deck, it would be higly unbalanced with the 3 Gods. Atem would have to stall for several turns to draw every pieces, something Judai would not let occur. Besides, Yugi only used Exodia once in DM and he automatically won with raw luck. Why resort to Exodia anyway? He has many broken cards left!
Jaden and Yugi either draw, or Jaden loses. Jaden is supposed to symbolize fun in dueling (imo) So having him lose, he can learn that being defeated isn’t going to ruin his life or kill him like he is used to. It’s really a beautiful moment
I just don't think it's for Jaden to beat Yami Yugi. Personally I feel like it discredits Yugi Moto's final moment of defeating the Pharaoh and letting him rest. In a fair 1 on 1 duel I don't feel like anybody should beat Yami Yugi because at this point it goes against the legacy laid out from his retirement as the series protagonist and the namesake he left behind of King of Games.
Could you possibly do a video on whether Atem could've beat Yugi in their final duel? I think it'd be interesting to see your opinion on how the duel could've gone differently.
Yes. He missed an opportunity in the beginning to win early and later on aswell, he should of won, especially knowing him as well as he does.. he lnows Yugi's every trick and playing style. But Artem couldn't lose on purpose, if he tried he wouldn't of been able to go into the after life, it had to be a genuine loss. So his big mistakes weren't intentional but it was so blatantly obvious what he could of and should of done on multiple occasions to win the duel in atleast 2 different ways...how he missed them is plot armor for Yugi, or in this case, Artemis since he benefited from it lol.. I'm surprised Yugi didn't lose on purpose so Artem would ge forced to stay, that was like losing a piece of himself and his best friend.
Atem made a misplay in the beginning, I think that was obvious part since he was able to gain 1+ card advantage, other than that, i say it is a close fight. I don’t remember much
A few minor corrections yugi has 3 GY effects in his deck, not 1. The 3 being: Eletrical manteic turtle , beast of Glifer and ( techincally ) Ra 2ndly jaden could not of summoned his neo's fusion in defense mode as slifer's second mouth effect takes 2000 from whatever postion it was summoned in and Since the fusion has 2000 defense points, it would of been destroyed meaning he would of had to summon it in attack mode if he decided to do your play you suggested meaning if we assume he top decks monster reborn he lost using this play. basically he would of either had to summon flare neos purely to get monsters off the field so he wouldn't lose summoning it in defense mode, or summoned it in attack and pray.
@@quackduckquack anime god cards deal with that problem a lot most notably shown with Yami Marik constantly using monster reborn on Ra for game or pain to win by forfeit
I think, given the words Jaiden says after the duel cliffhanger, it implies that he lost, as he says he'll get stronger and challenge him again. I can be wrong, just what I got from the feel of the mood in the final scene.
I'll be real honest, this fight based on their decks at the time could go either way 100%. Like no one has the advantage in terms of raw deck strength. Yugi himself proved at the end of his series that the God cards aren't everything to win and Jaden has done essentially the same thing with him bond with his hero cards. It's really a duel between two characters that have learnt to over come so much and both had to find the fun in duelling again.
This is just like in _Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin_ when in order to be able to fully use the Vampire Killer whip, Johnathan Morris had to defeat the soul of the last and strongest person to wield the whip (being Richter Belmont). The battle isn't so much a victory per say, but more of an acceptance of equals. Johnathan proves himself just as powerful as Richter and is thereby the Whip's rightful heir. Same with Yugi and Jaden here. To be the King of Games, Jaden has to compete against the last individual to hold that title (being Yugi/Atem). The match isn't so much about victory per say, but rather an acceptance as equals. Jaden proves himself to be just as powerful as Yugi and is thereby the rightful next King of Games.
I wouldn't as per as powerful as him Because it was a memory of him in the weapon and when you defeat him He said something along me and weapon are rooting for you The fight makes you look like that you beat him But is more of proving yourself to your predecessor to be worthy enough to wield it Same as in the duel between Yugi and Jaden
@@bitterthenu7278 Yuma only lost 1 duel in the manga and Yugi in the manga never lost a "Fair" Duel unless including yugi muto and Pegasus. If going by anime Yuma becomes like Atem by the end of the series only with a more broken power up. As unlike heart of the cards which gives you the ability to draw whatever you need, shining draw has the same along with the benefit of creating a card.
@@bitterthenu7278 So overall, Manga Yuma has the better deck and win record along with plot device as most protagonist have. However, to give Yugi the edge will give him the manga God cards which are far more powerful than any counterpart as they can only be defeated by another God card. For Ra it can only be defeated by a God Card of the same Rank as it( And yes I said rank not like the xyz ranks, Obelisk became the progenitor after doing a divine evolution). So unless yuma is somehow able to make his zexal form turn a number xyz into a God card with a high enough rank, he would lose. Then again he could always stall out with Utopia Kaiser. But overall manga yuma is the better duelist. As for Anime Yugi, he's better than Yuma up until the final part of the Zexal. Yuma in zexal season 3 is arguably has the same skill has Yugi when dueling astral. Along with the fact that he can do shining draw and has the anime only ability/card, The Numeron Code, which can basically let Yuma do whatever he desires. So no matter what way you put it Yuma has the edge. If speaking of the zexal weapons, they are literally a full counter to anything Yuma is up against as they are created for a specific scenario
I think thats pretty relistic i made jadens deck card for card (obviously well over 60 cards lol) and like 80 % of the cards he plays are spells, how he reliably draws a monster or multiple in his starting hand is beyond me😂
Even though GX focus on Judai, he battles the past Yugi which have a plot armor and a lot of tricks under his sleeves. So in the end, Yugi triumphs over Judai.
Yah maybe he beat the god but couldn't beat yugi and that's why he says gotcha. Who knows. It's sucks that didn't want to give an answer on who would of won. But whatever they had characters lose in dumb ways and win in dumb ways so whatever.
Honestly, I'd love a self destruct button draw. Just because he pulled that against Zane who was Jaden's first big rival and it had a similar theme (though smaller scale) with Jaden not playing his usual way and through the duel rediscovering himself.
I do have to say...very underrated Yu-Gi-Oh! moment in the franchise. Yugi and Jaden - who have become so used to dueling for the fate of the world and all took a look at themselves and just...laughed. Honestly a really heartwarming moment that I think a lot of us missed out on initially. I'd argue that scene is in my top three moments in the franchise. Gotta be honest, tugged at my heartstrings to see my boys laughing and having fun.
Fun fact, Jaden's deck had had over 100 cards throughout the series. It's all over the place, he was drawing every synergistic card he wanted at the right time, like aquaman with bubble blaster e.t.c. Or sparkman with the other gun. Yugi's deck had been consistent in the original series and saw refinement as time went on but Jaden's deck was all over the place throughout the series 😅
I would’ve argued a DNF for the conclusion to this duel in particular. Like you said, the point of it was to bring back Jaden’s love of dueling, and while it can be said that both Yugi and Atem like a good duel, he would’ve been on the back foot when Slifer went back to the graveyard. Sure, he’s got a lot of plays he can do after, but the same is true with Jaden, like you also said. Jaden regained what he lost in the end; I wouldn’t see a reason to continue the duel. That’s probably why they stopped the duel in the anime the way they did. But if you want my personal opinion, I don’t see why Atem needed to come out at all, besides dramatic effect. Sure it wouldn’t be a YuGiOh episode featuring Yugi without Atem showing up, but the message went across before he did. I personally would’ve called it when they both started laughing, with them both smirking and giving each other a thumbs up before returning Jaden back to his dimension.
The reason Yugi sent Jaden back in time was to fight Yugi at his best. Why do you think that is? I'm pretty sure Yugi already knows Jaden has surpassed him, and that he is deserving of a battle with the Pharoah and the Gods. Though, I don't know for sure if Jaden is stronger than Yugi/Yami with God Cards (I personally think Yami using Dark Renewal on Grand Mole was sus). However, I still believe Jaden is stronger than a present day Yugi regardless. And if not now, then definitely in the future. I mean look how good he is now at 17/18. By the time he reaches Yugi's age 10 years later he's gonna be a MONSTER. Also the title's of the first ep give it away lol. He will surpass Yugi if not already.
I don't think it was about fighting Yugi at his best. I think it was about fighting yugi at his most innocent. The point was to show Jaden that dueling is supposed to be fun, and it's much easier to do that if you fight the version of himself that doesn't know what's going on and just loves games than if you fight the version of himself that knows what's going on and would be filling kind of a mentor role.
@Lokey Warrior I know prime Yugi is with the Pharoah and God cards. Did you not ready my comment? I stated that Yugi sent Jaden back in time to fight Yugi at his best (prime) because he believes his current self isn't as strong. And yes, I do believe it's possible for Jaden to surpass all of that lol. If little Yugi can do it, and he sees the same potential in Jaden, then why not? Literally all the signs point to Jaden surpassing Yugi bruh. If you don't think so, that cool, but you can't say what I'm saying doesn't make sense. The information is right there in the show.
@UCoy8LOKjAIwAkORvgzWWNZw Bruh you literally didn't disprove anything I said. And it was Winged Kuriboh that sent Jaden back in time, not Yugi himself. Yugi was responsible for orchestrating everything though... even if what you're saying is the case, that doesn't have anything to do with dueling lol. All the Protagonists have had special powers.
@Lokey Warrior Sir there were no rules back then. This is a card game, not a giant random spirit battle. Everything you just said has nothing to do with Jaden surpassing Yugi as a duelist. As I said previously, Jaden has supernatural powers as well. He can make his monsters real and has battled people stronger than exodia, and has now fought Ra and Slifer. You're also acting like no other protagonist has faced life or death situations.
@Lokey Warrior Ik winged kuriboh was Yugi's. I'm saying it was the monster spirit that had the power to take him back in time, not Yugi, as you are trying so hard to prove. And again, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH DUELING.
Two things I want to clarify. One, Judai gave Honest back to Fujiwara after his duel against him. He doesn’t have it anymore and Honest wasn’t even his to begin with. Two, Dark Renewal, say it with me, in the anime can summon any kind of Spellcaster regardless of attribute. Go figure.
I was just rewatching this video, because I love to rewatch your Dual Analysis videos, and I just realized there was a moment when Jaden could have won the Duel and had a perfect game. When he summoned Sparkman, he could have Equipped it with Impact Flip, then after it destroyed Alpha Yugio would have been forced to send the top card of his Deck to GY, which would have been Gaia, then on his next turn he would have drawn his Beast of Gilford, which he couldn't summon, so he'd have to end his turn, then next turn Jaden would bust out Bladeedge and attack directly with both it and Sparkman for game and he'd win, without losing any of his LP.
I can honestly see this duel lasting at least 2 more episodes with yugi’s next draw being swords of revealing light to buy time to build up his field, as to who wins it’s impossible to say for sure
13:16 Actually those people are right at the given time. Yes Magic cylinder does target...in the present day of 2021 post errata, back in the mid 2000s (When this duel occurred) MC didn't target, it simply negated the attack and then inflicted burn damage, same with the earlier shown negate attack, it too suffered an accursed errata which forces it to target the attacking monster nowadays, but older rulings simply negated the attack and ended the battle phase. So yeah, by today's standards this isn't shenanigans but by mid 2000s...yugi won the duel with MC.
Surely though, with Contact Out removing Magma Neos from the field in this specific example, there's no longer an attack for Magic Cylinder to negate, and therefore even in its pre-errata state back in the mid 2000s (I'm basing this from the text on the printing of Magic Cylinder in Starter Deck: Jaden Yuki), the card wouldn't be able to function the same in this instance, since there's no attack that it is able to negate? I could definitely be wrong but this was my interpretation of it
At the end of the duel Jaden said his catchphrase “Gotcha!” which he only says if he wins a duel so maybe he won or he said it because he lost. It was clear that he would lose since he attacked with Neos against a 5000 or so attack points Slifer.
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I love my boy JayJay, but for his own mental health I'd rather have him lose this duel. For so long he couldn't afford to lose a duel, or the world would be damned. By losing a duel and seeing that nothing bad happened and nothing of value was lost, he can finally relax and enjoy dueling again.
Bingo. It makes more sense for Jaden to lose
Yeah man! You got it! I personally love Jaden more than Yugi but what you're saying makes perfect sense
This is just the kaiba man duel in season one
The anime's "Dark Renewal" doesn't say it has to be in Attack Position, so Yugi could've summoned "Slifer the Sky 🐉" in Defense Position (forcing monsters to attack it if summoned that way).
Pretty much this. In the later half of GX, every single duel was either win or the world is destroyed. That's takes it toll on you. He needs to lose so that he can see that not every duel is a win or die situation and he can enjoy it. In a way, most of Yugi's duels were like that. That's probably why they both laughed at how serious they were taking the duel.
Yugi: is in genuine trouble
Atem: yo Yugi watch this
Atem: cheats out slifer
Yugi: PHAROH WE TALKED ABOUT THIS
Atem: I HAVE SPOKEN
Lmao I feel like they actually have conversations like this😂😂😂
Lol wish I was😂😂but I love my son to much 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️😂😂
Lol very much in line with the abridged version
Pegasus: im still here yugi boy
Added bonus: Slifer Red was the dorm Jaden was in for three years, so the final shot of the duel is Jaden's ace attacking a monster that represents his time at DA.
I think jaden would have won looking at it like that.
It would signify his moving on from Slifer Red and DA all together.
@@nearzero12 depends he might’ve lost but no way he didn’t support Neos
Also, Pharaoh/Yugi's main card was Slifer; after those 3 cards were presented to the serie. So, I'd expect him to summon Slifer The Executive Producer the most, other than Ra's Chicken or Obelisk.
@@nearzero12 I think him beating Slifer, but losing in the end, shows him both moving in from DA, and Slifer Red, but still acknowledging he can still move forward.
genius, i am satisfied
Just as a fun fact: In Duel Links, if you use Jaden Yubel against Yami Yugi and lose, Jaden will say the same phrase that he said at the end of GX, so... Technically that could explain how the duel ended
Dude that is awesome
I guess we know who won after all lol
@@QuranAndDawah01 Can Tribe King MegaMan StarForce 2 Beat Both Jaden And Yugi/Atem?!I Think So!I Believe In The Heart Of The Battle Cards!LeoKingdomGX=Ra!PegasusMgcGX=Obelisk!DragonSkyGX=Slifer!Le Mu=Exodia/Horakthy!MEGA MAN STARFORCE FTW!!!!
@@chimuoma390
tf is that kinda fanfic?
Duel links isnt even anime plot.
Where do you want me to place the non canon stemp?
It's pretty much implied that Chazz showed up and beat them both.
CHAZZ IT UP!
no it's Weevil, and he's gonna throw their cards to the sea.
@@newfacepaula SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR NEO SPACIANS
@@newfacepaula both chazz and weevil have trown someone else's deck to the sea
Well, Chazz beats Jaden in the manga, so it's plausible.
On Yugi's turn, Yugi activates his skill: Destiny Draw! Looking through his entire deck and picking anything he wants and adds it to his hand!
Duel links lol
He would need to lose 2000 lp to do that tho. And he has just lost 500. AND and he has kuriboh as a good destiny draw player xD
My thoughts precisely. Yugi's rogue strategy with D-draw would beat Jaden's Meta strategy with Ties that bind.
@@impieman10 Destiny Draw is more of a meta strategy than Ties that Bind though, if we're talking about Duel Links. If anything, Ties that Bind is a rogue strategy lol
@@clyden1685 Ties is played in Harpies if I'm not mistaken
So Yami just shows up to steal Yugi's game, after Yugi has done all the work, and claims that he's the "real" duel...
Ego of Kaiba proportions.
his name is atem btw but i agree he just steals yugi game lol
I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed this
@@mezasepkmn lol
I thought you right
Just like in the movie
Althought we never see the conclusion of the duel, I love how it "ends" just because of how simbolic it is. During the entire series, Slifer Reds are underestimated and considered as inferiors by the rest of the Duel Academy. However, in this final duel, Jaden faces Slifer itself and sees how immensely powerful he is (let's not forget that, in the original series's final duel of Yugi vs Atem, Slifer is the key for defeating the other two gods).
You can thank Kaiba for that. Why Obelisk was top and Slifer was weak while Ra was second.
I never thought about it until now but why does yugi shot gun using thousand knives? He could have just destroyed bubble man with Celtic then attack with dark magic and saved thousand knives for main phase 2 if any new monsters showed up like how neos did
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@@stinkinlincoln926Yeah like RA is first in the ancient times. Kaiba was just being petty
@@ChampionMarxYugi is a sweaty serious pro and prepared for Mirror Force, so he used thousand knives to guarantee a clear monster zone.
Yugi has been known to be a staller. Magical hats + Sword of Revealing Light . Yata Yata Yata. Summon Obelisk + Ra.. Believe me, Yugi Muto is a hustler, he stacked cards amazingly
I really wished they let Yugi use at least Slifer
@@Deathmare235 at the time he couldn't they were all in Egypt
@@drakofox1362 still they let Kaiba use his in the movie and Yugi’s meant to be the best apparently
@@Deathmare235 that was because they where right above the burial grounds where they was still located
@Deathmare
@Drako fox13
Don't forget the movie is based on the manga, not the anime.
Jaden winning with Winged kuriboh would be poetic in a way, defeating Yugi with the card he himself gave to Jaden in the future.
Yugi has a track winning against someone after receiving one of his cards. Yes the time wizard thing was bs but against Seto and Atem was pretty sweet on baiting them to use monster reborn.
Yugi won easily
i actually completely agree with this analysis. Yugi probably pulled it out by bringing out obelisk at some point. And when he was sent back to the present he probably re-challenged current yugi and won against him.
If Jaden sumons Yubel ultimate nightmare after yugi brings out obelisk, which btw all of the cards he only used in this duel involved milling, he can take yugi out easily. I repeat, Obelisk is NOT AN AUTOMATIC WIN if Yugi summons it for this reason.
That’s probably why he gave it to him.
Id most definitely argue that Jaden lost the duel. Cause he kept winning over and over again and lost the fun he had, the best way for him to regain the fun is for him to lose. This gives Jaden new heights to strive for, and a new path for his dueling journey to surpass the person who finally beat him.
@Tribute Doll 5k attack that disappears when Jaden end his turn
Like when he lost to Kaiba man?
@@johngentley5015 I wouldnt know bud, never finished yugioh gx
@Kainvainslay it was literally in season one but k
@@johngentley5015 i watched it sporadically as a kid, never saw the episodes in order or anything like that. Couldve easily missed it along the way
When you realize Atem is "meta" spelled backwards.
Exposed
its also breath in german
Once you see it, you can’t unsee it.
Duuuuude.
I hate to ruin your day but the pharaoh is spelled "Atemu" but the "u" at the end is silent so you don't day it...
Sry
I think Jaden loses the duel but that doesn’t mean he’s lost everything. The point of this duel was to heavily emphasize the fact that he regained his love for dueling which is why the full duel wasn’t shown, because it didn’t matter all that mattered was character development for Jaden. I would however, love to see the duel in a movie or something.
This, the duel wasn't meant to have a defined winner. Its just a proxy for Jaden to rediscover what he loves, much like meeting your childhood hero and them telling you not to quit when things get rough. The fact that he faced a god card adds to this more since its represents an obstacle at its peak in dueling.
Agreed
The anime's "Dark Renewal" doesn't say it has to be in Attack Position, so Yugi could've summon "Slifer the Sky 🐉" in Defense Position (as it forces monsters attacking to attack it if summoned that way).
@@jemd5766 Wow, that makes actually sense, given that Slifer stays only one round anyway and Yugi always plays safe.
@@jemd5766 it does not force them to atk, just he can redirect the attack to the Egyptian God if they attack other monsters
Yugi: "You're a duelist, aren't you?"
Jaden: "Yep, I'm going to try out for the Academy."
Yugi: "Hehe, you don't say."
Yugi already met Jaden and had to set him on the path to meet him in the past. It also explains how Jaden bumped into him. He *knew* that Jaden would come, so he came to greet him
We only have one one of saying hi
Bust out dual disk and deck and let's dual
ITS A GODAM PARADOX (not the character)
I feel like Jaden lost.
He's vague about it, but when a character - especially an anime character - says "I'm going to get stronger and fight you again...!" It's pretty much always after a loss.
Plus, his facial expression doesn't exactly read as "I just won a card game between friends," it looks more like he's thinking "I need to get better and set the standard higher for myself."
I think the main reason Yugi kinda yeeted Jaden into a pocket dimension wasn't necessarily because he was in his prime at that point in time, which I'm somewhat uncertain of what that would mean, but like...hm...
Think of it like this: he wanted Jaden to go back to dueling for fun.
So he prolly wanted a duel that had ridiculous scaling, yeah?
A duel that'd be comparable to a rollercoaster.
One that would have it's own twists and turns, which it absolutely does.
I mean, this is prolly one of the duels in Yugioh that have the most debates centered around it.
I'm going to phrase this kinda stupidly, but; my speculation is that after he lost to Yugi, Jaden went back to the present and Yugi told'im "YOU'RE the protag now!!"
Jaden says, "Awesome...!!!"
...and then his series ends.
Sounds perfect to me.
Also, uh-...
It's really funny for me to imagine an abridged series that gets to this ending and shows Jaden saying he'll get stronger, he'll challenge him again and that he'll never give up!
Then he says some shit like,
_"...Also...where the fuck am I...?"_
In the abridged he would probably say something like "I never really been to venice before" and then prof banner would remind us that he is asian.
"I think the main reason Yugi kinda yeeted Jaden into a pocket dimension wasn't necessarily because he was in his prime at that point in time", I agree with this. Yugi sent Jaden back to where the Pharaoh was still present. Yugi knew a duel with the best duelist ever would give Jaden the chills and make him regain what he has lost.
@@poloy7051 Well Jayden had the problem of not enjoying duels as much and Yugi came "looking for sonething" he "didnt know" he lost. I'm pretty sure he was there because he was in a rut with dueling too. He came to reminisce through the old days of his deck and ran into a soul m8ee in need.
He didn't go back in time to be "in his prime" as it was hinted that Yugi had grown better than Atem at strats, so his prime would probably be somewhere after Atem left him. He probably went back in time to be with Atem and duel alongside him vs a worthy opponent like in "the good old days". Maybe a card in his deck still had the Egyptian magic to help him do that? lols idk
We all know he took that L there's no explanation needed
Screw all of you I think Jaden won. Plus he is the one who is ment to surpass the last king of games. The is no way to prove that unless he beats the king of games Atem. Not Yugi, Nobody considers Yugi better than Atem so yes it has to be Jaden Yugi doesn't count we all know in our hearts Atem is always the better duelist and the only way be better is beating Atem.
Everyone else: BuT WhAT dOEs POt oF GreED dO!?
Me, an intellectual: Struggling to comprehend how negate attack works*
pot of greed allows you to draw two pots of greed's.
My older cousin always cheated against us, he had 7 pot of greed and Exodia in a 30 card deck :)
Me, an even bigger intellectual: struggling to comprehend what graceful charity does*
Me an intellectual not knowing what battle ox does
@@skyler9577 it lets you draw 3 cards from your deck, however the opponent then has to draw 2 cards
Yugi: "Do I beat Jaden at the end of GX?"
Yusei: "Well duh"
Jaden: "Hey spoilers!!"
Yusei: "It's not a spoiler if it's obvious"
Yugioh the abridged movie!
I was about to comment that
Amazing how a almost decade old YT video is still relevant today
Yusei didn't even know Jaden
@@blacksarutobi7975 ygotas bbt
"Everyone plays their cards face up in defense"
Yuma's Gogogo Golem wants to have a word
No one cares about Yuma
@@quackduckquack I'm no one. Thanks
@@quackduckquack I like Yuma
You say that and then Yuma also has the worst win to loss ratio and the worse stats out of all protagonists lol maybe that's the reason why 😂
@@guslightyear9724 he's also the only protagonist that showed significant change and improvement
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Remember how yami could call what card he was gonna draw, by changing destiny or something like that, yeah my money is on yugi
Yup it's called destiny draw in duel links lol
And Duelist of the Roses
Nah bro that was when atem found his true power after finding out his name and beating zorc, he can't do that yet
@@trueyuen3710 Yeah he can do it now. That event happened before GX. Also it is well known that Atem has the "heart of the cards" on his side, he is always going to drawn whats needed
@@junjipito3005 but he went to the past when he still had the god cards, so it could be like during season 3 but mb during 5, idk
I think Jaden loses this duel from purely a narrative standpoint. He has spent the last 3 years with life or death duels, and pretty much every duel in year 3 fit that category, he couldn't lose, or else. Not only does this duel get him to love duel monsters again, I think he lost in the past to help remind him that 99% of the time, losing is okay. I think this duel helped him with what I assume to be trauma from the past year of consistently saying, "I can't lose this or I lose my friends/life/only chance at...etc.
If we look at the facts, Jaden isn't shown to attack and I don't think he would choose to as that would cause him to lose. Jaden is a lot of things but bad at card games isn't one of them. He wouldn't make a play that would cause him to lose when there are better alternatives.
So Jaden ends his turn. Yugi loses Slifer. The only monster Yugi has in hand that can be played is Kuriboh. Jaden has double lethal on board. I don't see how Yugi can win. Certain draws could change things but based on what cards we know are in play, Yugi has no way of winning whereas Jaden does. I honestly don't know why anyone would think Yugi has a chance here. Literally everything points towards Jaden winning.
"But Jaden says he'll get stronger. Why would he say that if he won?"
Why would he say Gotcha if he lost? Both lines were likely written so as to not point to either result but if we're going off what cards are in play, Yugi cannot win the duel.
@@ZyrusSmith this is yugi we talking about Swords of Revealing Light is like the very next card he will draw
@@ZyrusSmith hmm okay.. but we still don't know how that duel ended
@@ZyrusSmith If we look only the facts, jaden actually attacked Slifer and Atem won.
Atem would win easily anytime, anyway
@@ZyrusSmith no way Jaden win that match Its YUGI. And we can clearly see Neos attacking.
I mean i wouldnt say its yugi in his prime, id say his prime is the fated duel when he beat atem, as he curbstomped the god cards.
...with a bullshit trap card that targets the god cards which shouldn't have worked, but carry on.
@@denniswilliams6519 its the anime dude. Where you can summon blue eyes without tributes and cant summon Ra without reading a foreign langaugr and if you cant resd it he zaps you, carry on.
@@denniswilliams6519 well IRL gods don't have protection to card effects, except for Obelisk only for the tribute summon, so yeah. IRL any and all traps would beat the gods.
@@nasirbone979Blue eyes could only be summoned by original anime rules. Kaiba was the one who invented tributing for battle city rules. Ra is a god, not a card in the anime, of coarse he would zap you.
@@denniswilliams6519 god cards are affected by anything that doesn't remove them from the field outright, so yes, yugi did beat them correctly by draining their attack.
I like the end of GX so much for the ending. It’s left vague and it’s done on purpose. It’s the reason it’s so good. And it’s a fantastic duel overall too. The final cinematic shot is also a great symbol for jaden. It’s his ace going against the mascot for the dorm that housed him for three years. Symbolic of his end at the academy and onto new paths
Jaden this is why you dont play 60 different cards in your deck
Yeah he should add 10 more
Eheh yugi s deck is worse
@@syckray but Yugi has heart of the cheat with him
@@syckray what are you saying, clearly Yugi Moto Tribute summon/Magnet warrior/Slifer/Fusion summon chimera/Ritual BLS hybrid deck is tier zero.
@@cbbblue8348 but what about Yugi Muto Dark Magician/Magician Girls/Gadget/Tribute Summon/Magnet Warrior/God Cards/Fusion summon Chimera/Watapon/Kuriboh/Silent Cards/Archfiend of Gilford/DESTROY THE MOOOOOON/Ritual BLS Hybrid? It’s way better
Neither won the duel was interrupted by Yusei after he comes out of a portal and says he needs them because something is coming
Bonds beyond time 2
No, he just needs some milk.
Yusei: I’ll have a milk
One of the funniest 5ds moments
That would make sense for yugi but bonds beyond time took place after gx where as atem was still with yugi
Yusei “I came to this city. Jack “ON MOTORCYCLEEEEEES!”
@@shiroiku9314 he be trying to save his favorite milk producer and the rest of the timestream
Why can't rival characters ever do something like this
kiba only want to gain king of games ???don't know the rival.5ds did my research no rivals other the the king. Zexel same as 5ds. arc v war. vrain same as 5ds and Zexel
Arc-V kinda did this with it's ceremonial duel
Kaiba would win the Duel and the insult contest.
cause they're all too busy being bitter gits.
Kaiba would pretty much destroy at least Manjoume and Jack.
Much as I love this duel, just imagine getting to see a grown-up Yugi dueling on his own now. It’d be sick.
I kind of favor Yugi at this point too. It just makes more narrative sense for Jaden to lose. If he wins, he has accomplished the highest dueling achievement possible, but the purpose of the duel is to return his love of dueling. The most powerful way of doing that would be for him to lose, so he still has goals to strive for. It also thematically fits with him no longer needing to duel to survive. I actually think he straight up did attack into Slifer because he had already gotten what he needed from that duel and was ready to return to the present having regained what he had lost.
If we look at the facts, Jaden isn't shown to attack and I don't think he would choose to as that would cause him to lose. Jaden is a lot of things but bad at card games isn't one of them. He wouldn't make a play that would cause him to lose when there are better alternatives.
So Jaden ends his turn. Yugi loses Slifer. The only monster Yugi has in hand that can be played is Kuriboh. Jaden has double lethal on board. I don't see how Yugi can win. Certain draws could change things but based on what cards we know are in play, Yugi has no way of winning whereas Jaden does. I honestly don't know why anyone would think Yugi has a chance here. Literally everything points towards Jaden winning.
"But Jaden says he'll get stronger. Why would he say that if he won?"
Why would he say Gotcha if he lost? Both lines were likely written so as to not point to either result but if we're going off what cards are in play, Yugi cannot win the duel.
@@ZyrusSmith since Millenium Puzzle lets Atem draws any card he wants from the deck, I would assume that he drew Monster Reborn, then used it to bring out Slifer and attacked for endgame (in a similar way that he did against Yugi at Ceremonial Duel).
@@ZyrusSmith Facts, sure. But since when was the show ever about facts? The give cards different effects on occasion, or just outright fabricate a card specifically for the Anime.
I highly doubt they would care if Yugi could win or not, simply speaking as a plot device: Jaden WOULD lose the duel.
From a strict narrative point, it gives Jaden the motivation to keep learning, evolving and restores his love for dueling.
If this was a genuine duel that happened either online, or at a tournament(with the sheer amount of luck they had to match)...then yes. Who was ever in Jaden's position would have 100% won UNLESS something wild happens and whoever is in Yugi's position just pops off because...."the heart of the cards" and some how just manages to whip put an insane combination out of no where with whatever cards he has and drew.
Also, nice copy/paste bud.
Didnt they already do that in Season 2 with the Kaiba Man duel tho? Kinda pointless to do it again isnt it?
Yugi will win
But present Yugi would have been the one who defeated even Atem right? So hypothetically, he may not be the most powerful Yugi, but he could be the most skilled.
@Tucker Also adult Yugi is more interested in making sure Jaden is at his best as a Duelist.
I love speculating what kind of deck present-Yugi would run
Jaden regained his passion for dueling for fun, so in a sense he still won, even if he lost.
If we look at the facts, Jaden isn't shown to attack and I don't think he would choose to as that would cause him to lose. Jaden is a lot of things but bad at card games isn't one of them. He wouldn't make a play that would cause him to lose when there are better alternatives.
So Jaden ends his turn. Yugi loses Slifer. The only monster Yugi has in hand that can be played is Kuriboh. Jaden has double lethal on board. I don't see how Yugi can win. Certain draws could change things but based on what cards we know are in play, Yugi has no way of winning whereas Jaden does. I honestly don't know why anyone would think Yugi has a chance here. Literally everything points towards Jaden winning.
"But Jaden says he'll get stronger. Why would he say that if he won?"
Why would he say Gotcha if he lost? Both lines were likely written so as to not point to either result but if we're going off what cards are in play, Yugi cannot win the duel.
@@ZyrusSmith see here's the thing you forgot the most simple rule when it comes to atem and yugi: belive in the heart of the cards bitch lol
@@ZyrusSmith Facts 🔥
The ending to the GX series is actually deep. Basically... Jaden was turned into an adrenalin junkie due to him basically only playing and literally gambling with his life.
How could dueling regularly match that sort of thrill/terror?
This honestly gets weird when you consider Yugi didn't seem to lose that spark despite how much he had on the line in his show too. Same with Yusei (can't speak for the other shows, didn't watch them.)
@@perrytran9504 Yugi and Yusei had better relationship with their friends than Judai did, actually. Despite having so many high tension duels they noticably still has better life outside of just dueling and have friends that treat them equally and actually personally know them.
Judai is not really a jerk loner, but none of his friends seems to be very close to him. They either call him aniki, treat him as a rival, or only work together because of duty. The closest thing he has to equal friend is Johan, who he rarely meet. He has nothing outside of dueling, and eventually even the dueling that he loves so much become a stressful duty.
It's a surprisingly an interesting take of battle maniac happy guy stereotype.
@@perrytran9504 I mean, in most cases yami was the one who did the dangerous duels, so it makes sense that Yugi isn't that phycologically damaged
Yugi and Atem also got to share the mental load. Whether it’s their general relationship, or them swapping back and forth during the Pegasus duel, etc, they always had a peer in their corner.
@@RPGNoZero I think it was more circumstances there than anything else, but he did neglect a bit of his friendships later on, especially with Syrus.
Yugi draws a single Exodia card and wins.
"But Yugi doesn't have Exodia or even the number of pieces in hand to win."
Heart of the Cards, bitch.
I honest could see this happen in Yu-Gi-Oh abridged
"Heart of the carda" more like "Heart of cheat mode on"
King of games bitch!
To me it was simplier: Jaden really attacked Slifer and that's when he lost.
Because that duel wasn't about winning as Jaden's previous duels were (causing him to become numb on playing). So, he simply brawled out with a *real* god, held by the real King, no matter the result; and that was the "ultimate moment" as Jaden himself stated.
I like this because it means the “real duel” that Yami referred to was life after duel academy
I agree it wasn’t about winning, it was about the feeling! Jaden grew numb and looked like he was on a path to not being interested in dueling. This duel fueled his drive and motivation. Jaden losing and promising Yugi he’d get stronger indicates he lost the duel but won something more valuable in return
It was so obviously implied yugi won by what jaden says, cmon!
But for real battle analysis, yes he can contact fusion flare neos but he goes back to the extra deck during the end phase (actually doesnt have to with the field spell) Which is actually GOOD as if he doesn't, atem can draw monster reborn, revive slifer with 5000 attack and attack either neos or the other weak monster for game. So by contact fusioning flare neos and it returning to the extra deck, slifer can only attack the 4600 flare wingman, which would mean jaden survives, slifer goes to grave and the duel continues. So this is jaden's only option unless u can contact fusion together neos + flare wingman? But even then slifer can still attack the weaker monster so I don't think that works. So jaden has to contact fusion flare neos so it can return to the extra deck. But then atem can choose to draw brain control instead, he can take flare wingman and attack jaden for game - ua-cam.com/video/bHUX0PuAhD4/v-deo.html
Jaden is not stupid make attack for reason jayden win
@@nickmp516 No one is saying that Jaden is stupid; he knew he'd lose by attacking, but did so intentionally to prove to Yugi and himself that he no longer felt a need to win every single duel, and that he was back to playing just for fun.
Official Real Ending: Team Rocket shows up and steals Yugi's and Jaden's Deck, however, one card was unaffected by thievery. As team rocket attempted to flee, Yugi's Silfer attacked Team Rockets' balloon and sent them blasting off again. As the cards rained down, both Yugi and Jaden agreed the duel could not continue as the playing state has been altered.
Yes, I did more research than TGS Anime did.
Don't look at me like that.
the perfect crossover
Wasn’t this is the Pokémon show?
Nah you got it wrong team rocket wouldn’t be stopped by yugi and jaden they would be stopped by ash and everyone and then yugi, jaden, and ash would all become friends and fight with Pokémon and cards
I didn't know that Osiris's name was Arcanine!
According to the the trivia page of Slifer on the wiki, a possible set of effects for the anime Slifer would not include the rule of coming back to the graveyard at the end of the turn, but that Slifer it is only affected by spells for one turn. Therefore, because Slifer was revived with a trap, not a spell, then it would have stayed on the field at the end of the turn. This would also explain why Slifer stayed on the field during the ceremonial duel, because it was summoned with a trap (Summoning Clock).
you mean that definetely yugi won that duel since he could have immedielay attaked slifer for game meaning no cliffhanger
If yugi would have lost Kiba would have lost his mind. Like then Kuba would just non stop go after Jaden
But wasn’t it technically the effect of Jaden’s spell card? Rift panel just changed the text I thought.
@@Griggs58bro the real effects of the god cards in the anime is that yugi can make up new abilities on the spot if you watched Duel monsters you know what I mean
Imagine thousand kniving a goddamn bubbleman
One of the biggest misplays in Yugioh history
@@swiftthierry6145 not if ur playing with 4000 lp
@@Iamthegreatestofalltime it's the biggest misplay in anime history
@@swiftthierry6145 no it isnt.
@@Iamthegreatestofalltime Yes, it's the biggest misplay in Yugioh history
TGS anime, would you consider doing duel breakdowns like this but for duels that we see completed as well? I love the detail and explainations and some games get really confusing with duel action taking the front focus and not game mechanics.
Yugi Vs. Dartz still confuses me at multiple stages, and yes I know that it's a filler arc full of ridiculous shenanigans and when you get to infinity points logic is gone.
I'm confused too as to why the knights attack the main shinurous monster to weaken it but then Yugi uses mirror force anyways but also only takes small amounts of life point damage attacked the biggest beat stick ever to that point
One duel which I just got reminded of was Kaiba vs. Ishizu. We know it ended with Kaiba winning because he tributed Obelisk for Blue Eyes... but what if Ishizu ignored her own prophecy before that?
Kaiba at some point has no monsters and sets Soul Exchange hoping Ishizu summons a third monster so he can get out Obelisk. Ishizu however could've just attacked him directly with her existing two monsters and killed him then without even using Blast Held by Tribute (BHbt). I guess Kaiba could've used Soul Exchange in response to tribute just her two monsters for Blue Eyes (also in his hand at the time), but then it would be targeted by BHbT and now he has no good way of getting out Obelisk... or does he?
We don't know what else Ishizu has in her hand or deck, but the wiki said Kaiba had Flute of Summoning Dragon, Silent Doom, Ring of Destruction, and Obelisk. His deck is also limited to whatever cards were previously in his graveyard, so we know it only has Kaiser Glider, Polymerization, Shrink, and Vorse Raider (Crush Card and Virus Cannon were also there but already dealt with.) From here I can see one way of winning. When his turn starts, Ishizu should have no cards on the field except BHbT targeting Blue Eyes, though she could've summoned something in main phase 2. I'll assume she either doesn't, or does in attack mode to bait Blue Eyes. If Kaiba draws Kaiser Glider (very good odds with only 4 cards in his deck), he could use Silent Doom to summon Lord of Dragons, Flute of Summoning Dragon to get out Kaiser Glider, and then tribute his three monsters for Obelisk, removing the threat from BHbT. Ishizu would not be ready and even with a monster to defend, she would probably lose from his attack with only 1400 life points remaining. If he draws anything else though he's probably fucked even with Blue Eyes as a wall if he chooses not to attack.
Edit: I'm a fool and forgot Kaiba drew Polymerization on his last turn. Unless he cheats to draw something not on the top he can't do the combo I just mentioned to get out Obelisk in one turn. He could however force a draw with Ring of Destruction as embarassing at that'd be.
The anime really focused on Yugi only using Slifer even though he had all 3 god cards to give another connection to Jaden due to him being a Slifer Red student
Funny enough,the manga is all about obelisk
I think the last part where Jaden attack Slifer is meant to symbolizes him moving on from Slifer Red as well
Assuming Jaden ends his turn and Slifer goes back, the resources don't look that great for Atem. And since we don't see the end, we can only imagine what might have happened.
However, there is a card Atem hasn't used yet which I imagine would be the card on top of the deck: Pot of Greed.
Can you explain what that card do?
@@oojikarasuma1 With Pot Of Greed, that means he can draw two cards from the top of his deck.
@@Ozuburatoo confusing. Elaborate
@@oojikarasuma1he can summon pot of greed which lets him draw 3 cards from his deck.
"Yugi, I'll become much stronger and until that time comes... Thank you, Yugi! Gotcha! That was a fun duel."
Jaden lost and that's okay. He spent season 3 and 4 knee deep in death duels with life of his friends on the line. Once a hobby that he greatly loved turned into obligation with failure not being an option. He suffered from PTSD and clearly dueled like his life dependent on it in the last season. Yugi reaching out to him and awakening the long lost feeling of enjoying the game just for the sake of it worked much better for his character and the story than a victory ever could. Jaden was frustrated throughout the duel that Yugi managed to respond to his move, but as time went by his frustration turned into pure child-like glee. He lost, but in the end that clearly wasn't important to him since he loved that he got an opportunity to duel his childhood idol.
True!
I do see Jaden eventually defeating Yugi, one day; successor of him/next King of Games and all. But I see that happening in a later duel, where he's already reclaimed his love of dueling and a healthier emotional state in general.
@@ganoninthepit jaden could beat present yugi, but probably not prime yugi. He becomes king of games but he doesnt need to be the strongest ever.
Wonder how he’ll duel Yugi again I wish current Yugi was still good he even got the Atem build or at least show him duel
Lmao nope. Judai always uses Gotcha when he won the duel
@@ganoninthepit I know it’s just a game but Yusei’s win/lose quotes especially for Yugi & Judai are interesting overall and ensuing what if scenarios for everybody else.
Man, season 4 of GX is one of the greatest seasons in all of Yu-Gi-Oh!.
I heard it got rushed and I'm very sad about that, because it could have been even better
@George112 both were great
Season 4 is literaly saying: Oh, you know that characters with nothing of development and forgotten well lets develop them but in just one episode and give more Spotlight to Jaden
I'm so annoyed by it tho cause it one of my childhood hero and yet they went and rushed it
I would say one of the greatest was the barian arc. That was amazing.
They did us dirty by not releasing the GX movie 🥺
Wasn't that movie sort of adapted for season 2 when they went to domino city for a few episodes? I would much preffer they do a Dark Side of Dimensions type of movie for GX so we can see how the characters progressed in the future
Where
They did us dirty by not releasing season 4 GX dubbed
Option 1 jaden lost and takes it in his stride as a breakthrough that he can enjoy the game again after all he has been through, option 2 he wins and seeing one of his idols accept the loss with a smile on his face he realises you don't have to win them all
Funny thing about this duel is that Code Change could’ve been used to summon Obnoxious Celtic Guard instead but Atem really wanted to show Judai respect.
My guy, you are awesome when it comes to the analytical side of Yu-Gi-Oh and should play off of that. You are also the only one who does the deep dive research needed to piece together the story of the cards. You are starting to turn out more content which is awesome because when you do turn out content it's always quality. Cheers mate
😃 thanks for the kind words Yokaido!
Heres what happened, Yugi was about to draw but Jaden gets run over by Yusei who came to play a card game.
@Lokey Warrior XD it does in the rap
On motorcycles
Judai said at the end, "I'll become much stronger and when the time comes .." he'll try his hand at that duel again. If he lost (which I assume he did based on what he says), it gives him something to shoot for, something to look forward to. If he won, what good would it do? He said all that mattered was he had fun and that was the point.
Agreed
Exactly. Well said.
Jaden regain his love of dueling while with yugi I am hoping jaden wins.
I hope yugi won
That’s why I think it makes more sense for him to lose. It’s a better story for him as a character to have still regained the loving of dueling through a loss than to win and to just love winning
I hope they conclude it and Yugi even remembers the duel
Thematically jaden had to lose and realize it’s ok to lose, he needed to understand that duels aren’t always “end of the world” type ordeals and sometimes it’s ok to just slow down and enjoy the game.
@@ShadowArabesque Wish Seto learned that too but he had to rip the fabric of space just to challenge a dead pharoah in the after life who probably has access to Exodia right now.
Something about Yugi's unblinking eyes during some of the scenes here always bothered me. Maybe it is because his are rounded and bigger than Jaden's (and a decent number of GX characters).
Especially when he discards Gilford. That stare haunts me.
@@SWad250 yeah me too I was really bothered
Yugi didn't choose obelisk the tormentor to add to hand by the effect of jaden's magic card because it said "add three MONSTERS from deck..." and obelisk is not a monster... it's a GOD!
Mounsta de wanai… KAMI DA
14:15 Yugi is in fact able to do this. Dark Renewal in the TCG might specify the summoning of a DARK Spellcaster, but the anime version's effect just says "Spellcaster", so yeah changing it to "Divine Beast" is indeed enough to summon Slifer.
I'm still in the yugi winning camp. It shows that jaiden has more to learn despite all he went through and its better than just him getting the crown and the show being over
Me to I thought Yugi Won because slifer had 5,000 attack points while jadens neos had 2500 he attacked slifer he would’ve taken more damage then the amount of life points he had I think Jaden lost
@@zaydsnaynay6736 remember even tgc said judai didn’t attack slifer with Neos just for a cinematic ending to the duel
If we look at the facts, Jaden isn't shown to attack and I don't think he would choose to as that would cause him to lose. Jaden is a lot of things but bad at card games isn't one of them. He wouldn't make a play that would cause him to lose when there are better alternatives.
So Jaden ends his turn. Yugi loses Slifer. The only monster Yugi has in hand that can be played is Kuriboh. Jaden has double lethal on board. I don't see how Yugi can win. Certain draws could change things but based on what cards we know are in play, Yugi has no way of winning whereas Jaden does. I honestly don't know why anyone would think Yugi has a chance here. Literally everything points towards Jaden winning.
"But Jaden says he'll get stronger. Why would he say that if he won?"
Why would he say Gotcha if he lost? Both lines were likely written so as to not point to either result but if we're going off what cards are in play, Yugi cannot win the duel.
@@ZyrusSmith he literally yelled Neos attack and yugi had 5 cards and they were good 5 cards so he can turn the dual around
@@zaydsnaynay6736 Yugi had 5 bricks and we never saw Neos attack. Jaden could have ended his turn which would be his best play which is why I think he didn't attack.
Let's be real the card Yugi would draw would be pot of greed though I'm not sure what it does...
draws 2 cards
@@ashender823 rewally?
Yeah
Imagine Yugi playing against a modern deck lmao
Imagine an obelisk deck
Watching a grown man play solitaire and then win
Ugh. That's why I hate the power creep with the new cards. However goes first, wins.
I’ve played yugioh against a magic deck before. It was brutal. I summoned dark artist on turn 2 and they scooped
@@NeverGonnaTellALie Laughs in Ash Blossom
Honestly, his ending walk-off really only makes sense if he lost. Because it means his journey isn't over yet and he still has more to learn and grow from. Which would be nice because he had a feeling of stagnation in the final season. This gives him purpose again.
I love this type of duel analysis.
Breaking down duels and the thought process behind the duelists is an awesome concept. This video got me to sub to you, definitely should make more like this.
To me the fact that Jaden looks at the sky after the duel and says "I will get stronger" tells me that he lost. Also "successor" does not always mean someone becoming better than the former. It just means he takes over the title, as in maybe Yugi had a wife and some kids and retired...
That’s still a long ways away. Since GX only takes place 2-3 years after the events of DM.
@@supreme_king_obama1158 true good point
Judai also says “Gotcha” which he never said when he lost
It has been well established by YGOTAS that Yugi dies a virgin lol
Here's another idea for one of these Yu-Gi-Oh Analysis video, and it might be the most difficult one; the unseen duel between Yugi and Joey at the end of the Battle City Tournament.
Hot hott take indeed. But that was early in yugioh and joey was really rising the ranks I beleive it was a draw or a win for joey. If yugi let him win is another thing. But im certain of this. Atem is stubborn and would only want to see there best friend gain respect and there red eyes back in a legitimate way and not just hand it back to him. It goes against his character. Based on that alone it HAS to have been a draw or JOEY WON
I'm pretty sure yugi gave it to him. Explaining why he insisted. Joey wouldn't refuse like before
@@Jiron127 gave ?? Why he said joey must duel him for it at the end of battle city to see how far he has come. Yugi would not just give it back to him.
I always find myself coming back to this video, because it breaks down one of my favorite duels in such a great way. Excellent job on the video
My dream duel has always been Joey vs Jaden. Battle of the underdogs.
Wouldn't Cyrus vs Joey be a much better fit? I don't think Jaden can be considered an underdog
@@SKR-97 That's because Jaden is not, nor was he ever, considered an "underdog". Underdog implies that he is not the favorite to win, that everyone has already counted him out. Jaden is the exact opposite of that, to the point where the entire universe functions only to give Jaden free wins left and right. Being in Slifer Red doesn't make Jaden an underdog, it's a flimsy plot device that tries to make him look like an underdog in order to make him more believable, relatable, and likable as a protagonist, when no one really believes that Jaden's dueling ability is reflective of his dorm color.
Jaden is such a good protagonist, honestly my favorite
I think jaden and yusei are good protags
I honestly agree
He is a good protag but yugis my favourite protagonist
Juden's arch honestly a trip. He is your typical happy-go-lucky guy that is oblivious that people around him hating on him, and it is honestly very entertaining to watch people around him get pissed at how dense he is. Then the writer give him trauma, wow. Then he tried to recover his younger, happier day, like wow.
So counting out all the cards drawn and played until the duel is cut short, Yugi and Jaden both have already gone through half their decks. Yugi has drawn 21 cards already and Jaden has drawn 28, not counting his Fusion Monsters since they came from the Fusion deck. We already know for certain that Yugi has all 3 God cards in his deck at the start of the duel and since he has the Ritual Monster version of Black Luster Soldier we can assume he has Black Luster Ritual and he has Valkyrion and Alpha so the other Magnet Warriors should also be in his deck. So we know for certain 25 cards out of his 40 card deck and since he has the God cards we can MAYBE be generous and say we know 28 because a common strategy Yugi uses to summon the God cards is to bring out King, Queen, and Jack's Knight. Over on Jaden's side, let's assume he wouldn't go in without all the other Neo-Spacians since this Duel doesn't happen too long after the Duel with Darkness so we can add all of those Monsters and Yubel. After those cards however it's purely speculation, he could have the Winged Kuriboh LV monsters and Transcendent Wings and that's 2 or 3 cards, or since he had a single support card like Spark Blaster he could have Bubble Blaster and Bubble Shuffle but we just don't know. Either way, we know 33 of Jaden's cards if we're to assume he brought in the other Neo-Spacians and Yubel. Technically Jaden should only have 7 cards left to speculate on you say and Yugi 12, EXCEPT if we're being VERY generous and give the artists the benefit of the doubt here, when Subspace Battle is activated we can see what's left of both Duelist's decks when they pick their 3 Monsters, and counting each card tells us that Yugi and Jaden are playing a 41 and 43 card deck respectively. So we know that Yugi has 13 cards and Jaden has 10 that we can only guess are in their decks, but we can say that comparatively Yugi has a small advantage of getting cards he wants since he has 2 less cards than Jaden. So honestly, in my opinion, I want Jaden to win but I really think Yugi would still win this. Yugi has just a tiny edge over Jaden when it comes to card advantage with just 1 extra card rather than 3 and when I think about it, I feel compared to Jaden that those 13 cards he has could be a lot more suited to his strategy of bringing the God cards out for a fast win while the 10 Jaden has could just be anything considering how often, including this Duel, he uses one off cards that never get played again.
Good analysis :) And Honest was NOT in his hand! Speculations about Judai using its effects when attacking Slifer with Neos can not be true.
@@DTran-je1sn Yep, it would be a pretty cool move to make though. Unless I'm mistaken, didn't Jaden not have Honest anymore at this point?
@@michaeltrevino8234 Correct, he gave Honest back to Fujiwara after Darkness was defeated, because Judai does not own that Monster, anyway.
Yugi won with Exodia in his hand
@@gregelcompa1111 Wrong and impossible! At this point of the Duel, Atem had Magnet Valkirian, his ritual Chaos Magician + another high LV Monster (none of them can be normal summoned). If Exodia were in his Deck, it would be higly unbalanced with the 3 Gods. Atem would have to stall for several turns to draw every pieces, something Judai would not let occur. Besides, Yugi only used Exodia once in DM and he automatically won with raw luck. Why resort to Exodia anyway? He has many broken cards left!
Jaden and Yugi either draw, or Jaden loses. Jaden is supposed to symbolize fun in dueling (imo)
So having him lose, he can learn that being defeated isn’t going to ruin his life or kill him like he is used to. It’s really a beautiful moment
Yugi is canonically able to draw anything he needs, so just draw monster reborn, summon a 5K atk Slifer again, and one-shot Judai.
But jaden also “has the same powers” so it it only fair
@@camdude7234 but jaiden turn is about to over and he have no card to change it. So well, that’s how it is i guess
His name is Judai
@@MIRONOIR In the JP version, yes.
@@point-five-oh6249 you mean original version
Yugi pulls out graceful charity into pot of greed
I just don't think it's for Jaden to beat Yami Yugi. Personally I feel like it discredits Yugi Moto's final moment of defeating the Pharaoh and letting him rest. In a fair 1 on 1 duel I don't feel like anybody should beat Yami Yugi because at this point it goes against the legacy laid out from his retirement as the series protagonist and the namesake he left behind of King of Games.
Could you possibly do a video on whether Atem could've beat Yugi in their final duel? I think it'd be interesting to see your opinion on how the duel could've gone differently.
Yes. He missed an opportunity in the beginning to win early and later on aswell, he should of won, especially knowing him as well as he does.. he lnows Yugi's every trick and playing style.
But Artem couldn't lose on purpose, if he tried he wouldn't of been able to go into the after life, it had to be a genuine loss. So his big mistakes weren't intentional but it was so blatantly obvious what he could of and should of done on multiple occasions to win the duel in atleast 2 different ways...how he missed them is plot armor for Yugi, or in this case, Artemis since he benefited from it lol.. I'm surprised Yugi didn't lose on purpose so Artem would ge forced to stay, that was like losing a piece of himself and his best friend.
Atem made a misplay in the beginning, I think that was obvious part since he was able to gain 1+ card advantage, other than that, i say it is a close fight. I don’t remember much
A few minor corrections
yugi has 3 GY effects in his deck, not 1.
The 3 being: Eletrical manteic turtle , beast of Glifer and ( techincally ) Ra
2ndly jaden could not of summoned his neo's fusion in defense mode as slifer's second mouth effect takes 2000 from whatever postion it was summoned in and Since the fusion has 2000 defense points, it would of been destroyed meaning he would of had to summon it in attack mode if he decided to do your play you suggested meaning if we assume he top decks monster reborn he lost using this play. basically he would of either had to summon flare neos purely to get monsters off the field so he wouldn't lose summoning it in defense mode, or summoned it in attack and pray.
Also Osiris doesn't go back to graveyard because anime God cards don't have that limitations only real cards do.
@@quackduckquack they do have it in the anime as well
@@quackduckquack anime god cards deal with that problem a lot most notably shown with Yami Marik constantly using monster reborn on Ra for game or pain to win by forfeit
or, Judai activated honest's effect during damage step?
@@StigmaKRL He said in the video that Jaden's card in his hand when Neos was attacking was Winged Kuriboh.
My interpretation of this is that the duel not only stopped for us viewers, but for Yugi and Jaden too so that this duel never really ended
I think, given the words Jaiden says after the duel cliffhanger, it implies that he lost, as he says he'll get stronger and challenge him again. I can be wrong, just what I got from the feel of the mood in the final scene.
JAIDEN WON BECAUSE HE’S THE NEW MAIN CHARACTER IN THE SERIES, AN ASPIRING FAN DEFEATING A LEGEND ( HIS HERO ).
I'll be real honest, this fight based on their decks at the time could go either way 100%. Like no one has the advantage in terms of raw deck strength. Yugi himself proved at the end of his series that the God cards aren't everything to win and Jaden has done essentially the same thing with him bond with his hero cards. It's really a duel between two characters that have learnt to over come so much and both had to find the fun in duelling again.
This is just like in _Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin_ when in order to be able to fully use the Vampire Killer whip, Johnathan Morris had to defeat the soul of the last and strongest person to wield the whip (being Richter Belmont). The battle isn't so much a victory per say, but more of an acceptance of equals. Johnathan proves himself just as powerful as Richter and is thereby the Whip's rightful heir.
Same with Yugi and Jaden here. To be the King of Games, Jaden has to compete against the last individual to hold that title (being Yugi/Atem). The match isn't so much about victory per say, but rather an acceptance as equals. Jaden proves himself to be just as powerful as Yugi and is thereby the rightful next King of Games.
I wouldn't as per as powerful as him
Because it was a memory of him in the weapon and when you defeat him
He said something along me and weapon are rooting for you
The fight makes you look like that you beat him
But is more of proving yourself to your predecessor to be worthy enough to wield it
Same as in the duel between Yugi and Jaden
Per se. It’s Latin
Dont forget the show is still called YUGIOH 😂😂😂😂
And it's sad that yugi still had many losses
@@Clyde975 Yugi literally never loses a fair duel in the manga. Waking the dragons was a bad filler arc so dont bring it up lol
@@bitterthenu7278 Yuma only lost 1 duel in the manga and Yugi in the manga never lost a "Fair" Duel unless including yugi muto and Pegasus. If going by anime Yuma becomes like Atem by the end of the series only with a more broken power up. As unlike heart of the cards which gives you the ability to draw whatever you need, shining draw has the same along with the benefit of creating a card.
@@bitterthenu7278 turns out I was wrong. In the manga Yami Yugi/Atem had 4 losses.
@@bitterthenu7278 So overall, Manga Yuma has the better deck and win record along with plot device as most protagonist have. However, to give Yugi the edge will give him the manga God cards which are far more powerful than any counterpart as they can only be defeated by another God card. For Ra it can only be defeated by a God Card of the same Rank as it( And yes I said rank not like the xyz ranks, Obelisk became the progenitor after doing a divine evolution). So unless yuma is somehow able to make his zexal form turn a number xyz into a God card with a high enough rank, he would lose. Then again he could always stall out with Utopia Kaiser. But overall manga yuma is the better duelist. As for Anime Yugi, he's better than Yuma up until the final part of the Zexal. Yuma in zexal season 3 is arguably has the same skill has Yugi when dueling astral. Along with the fact that he can do shining draw and has the anime only ability/card, The Numeron Code, which can basically let Yuma do whatever he desires. So no matter what way you put it Yuma has the edge. If speaking of the zexal weapons, they are literally a full counter to anything Yuma is up against as they are created for a specific scenario
8:56 Bro drew 6 spells
I think thats pretty relistic i made jadens deck card for card (obviously well over 60 cards lol) and like 80 % of the cards he plays are spells, how he reliably draws a monster or multiple in his starting hand is beyond me😂
Even though GX focus on Judai, he battles the past Yugi which have a plot armor and a lot of tricks under his sleeves. So in the end, Yugi triumphs over Judai.
"Elemental Hero Necro Gardna". I'm not familiar with that Hero monster.
I'm a big fan of Elemental Hero Hannibal Necromancer.
I feel like Jaden lost, but it was so close and against God cards that it just felt like a victory because of the knowledge and character gained.
And seeing as the world was fine would reinforce his confidence of dueling for fun
Yah maybe he beat the god but couldn't beat yugi and that's why he says gotcha. Who knows. It's sucks that didn't want to give an answer on who would of won. But whatever they had characters lose in dumb ways and win in dumb ways so whatever.
That's right. ❤
4:31
"Elemental HERO Necro Gardna" ‽‽‽
Damn, Jaden was UBER cheatin then! Lol 🤣
I thought I was the only one who noticed that I was dying 💀 😂 like imagin if he used miracle fusion using elemental hero necro gardna 🤣
Honestly, I'd love a self destruct button draw. Just because he pulled that against Zane who was Jaden's first big rival and it had a similar theme (though smaller scale) with Jaden not playing his usual way and through the duel rediscovering himself.
I do have to say...very underrated Yu-Gi-Oh! moment in the franchise. Yugi and Jaden - who have become so used to dueling for the fate of the world and all took a look at themselves and just...laughed. Honestly a really heartwarming moment that I think a lot of us missed out on initially. I'd argue that scene is in my top three moments in the franchise. Gotta be honest, tugged at my heartstrings to see my boys laughing and having fun.
To be fair, Dark Renewal's anime effect doesn't specify the monster's attribute, so using it with Code Change's effect to summon Slifer is allowed.
The anime effect does not specify anything, but in Tag Force, the text is like you said. So, correct.
Yugi with Atem and the god cards is a lesser duelist than Yugi post Atem
Well the God cards are garbage.
Fun fact, Jaden's deck had had over 100 cards throughout the series. It's all over the place, he was drawing every synergistic card he wanted at the right time, like aquaman with bubble blaster e.t.c. Or sparkman with the other gun. Yugi's deck had been consistent in the original series and saw refinement as time went on but Jaden's deck was all over the place throughout the series 😅
I would’ve argued a DNF for the conclusion to this duel in particular. Like you said, the point of it was to bring back Jaden’s love of dueling, and while it can be said that both Yugi and Atem like a good duel, he would’ve been on the back foot when Slifer went back to the graveyard. Sure, he’s got a lot of plays he can do after, but the same is true with Jaden, like you also said. Jaden regained what he lost in the end; I wouldn’t see a reason to continue the duel. That’s probably why they stopped the duel in the anime the way they did.
But if you want my personal opinion, I don’t see why Atem needed to come out at all, besides dramatic effect. Sure it wouldn’t be a YuGiOh episode featuring Yugi without Atem showing up, but the message went across before he did. I personally would’ve called it when they both started laughing, with them both smirking and giving each other a thumbs up before returning Jaden back to his dimension.
Jaden lost but regained his love for dueling end of story
The reason Yugi sent Jaden back in time was to fight Yugi at his best. Why do you think that is? I'm pretty sure Yugi already knows Jaden has surpassed him, and that he is deserving of a battle with the Pharoah and the Gods. Though, I don't know for sure if Jaden is stronger than Yugi/Yami with God Cards (I personally think Yami using Dark Renewal on Grand Mole was sus). However, I still believe Jaden is stronger than a present day Yugi regardless. And if not now, then definitely in the future. I mean look how good he is now at 17/18. By the time he reaches Yugi's age 10 years later he's gonna be a MONSTER. Also the title's of the first ep give it away lol. He will surpass Yugi if not already.
I don't think it was about fighting Yugi at his best. I think it was about fighting yugi at his most innocent. The point was to show Jaden that dueling is supposed to be fun, and it's much easier to do that if you fight the version of himself that doesn't know what's going on and just loves games than if you fight the version of himself that knows what's going on and would be filling kind of a mentor role.
@Lokey Warrior I know prime Yugi is with the Pharoah and God cards. Did you not ready my comment? I stated that Yugi sent Jaden back in time to fight Yugi at his best (prime) because he believes his current self isn't as strong. And yes, I do believe it's possible for Jaden to surpass all of that lol. If little Yugi can do it, and he sees the same potential in Jaden, then why not? Literally all the signs point to Jaden surpassing Yugi bruh. If you don't think so, that cool, but you can't say what I'm saying doesn't make sense. The information is right there in the show.
@UCoy8LOKjAIwAkORvgzWWNZw Bruh you literally didn't disprove anything I said. And it was Winged Kuriboh that sent Jaden back in time, not Yugi himself. Yugi was responsible for orchestrating everything though... even if what you're saying is the case, that doesn't have anything to do with dueling lol. All the Protagonists have had special powers.
@Lokey Warrior Sir there were no rules back then. This is a card game, not a giant random spirit battle. Everything you just said has nothing to do with Jaden surpassing Yugi as a duelist. As I said previously, Jaden has supernatural powers as well. He can make his monsters real and has battled people stronger than exodia, and has now fought Ra and Slifer. You're also acting like no other protagonist has faced life or death situations.
@Lokey Warrior Ik winged kuriboh was Yugi's. I'm saying it was the monster spirit that had the power to take him back in time, not Yugi, as you are trying so hard to prove. And again, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH DUELING.
Hypothesis: Yugi giving Jaden the Winged Kurinoh is evidence that he won
Two things I want to clarify.
One, Judai gave Honest back to Fujiwara after his duel against him. He doesn’t have it anymore and Honest wasn’t even his to begin with.
Two, Dark Renewal, say it with me, in the anime can summon any kind of Spellcaster regardless of attribute. Go figure.
No one gonna mention btw Dylan's theory about how this duel was all in Jaden's head ? XD
This would have been the perfect duel for the Egyptian Gods vs the Sacred Beats (sigh)
Jaden never had any of the Sacred Beasts?
@@ZyrusSmith Technically he has them in season 4, since Yubel had them before fusing with him.
I was just rewatching this video, because I love to rewatch your Dual Analysis videos, and I just realized there was a moment when Jaden could have won the Duel and had a perfect game. When he summoned Sparkman, he could have Equipped it with Impact Flip, then after it destroyed Alpha Yugio would have been forced to send the top card of his Deck to GY, which would have been Gaia, then on his next turn he would have drawn his Beast of Gilford, which he couldn't summon, so he'd have to end his turn, then next turn Jaden would bust out Bladeedge and attack directly with both it and Sparkman for game and he'd win, without losing any of his LP.
Actually true
Jaden had his passion for dueling restored.....and with that he decided to go to Venice for some reason
There is one scenario where it would have ended in a draw, the same card he used when Zane chained Battle Fusion to his Battle Fusion.
I can honestly see this duel lasting at least 2 more episodes with yugi’s next draw being swords of revealing light to buy time to build up his field, as to who wins it’s impossible to say for sure
if i had to take a guess, id say jaden did beat yugi. simply based on the titles of the first episodes. it seemed a little too on the nose.
No, Yugi would've used the heart of the cards to pull something extraordinary off.
13:16 Actually those people are right at the given time. Yes Magic cylinder does target...in the present day of 2021 post errata, back in the mid 2000s (When this duel occurred) MC didn't target, it simply negated the attack and then inflicted burn damage, same with the earlier shown negate attack, it too suffered an accursed errata which forces it to target the attacking monster nowadays, but older rulings simply negated the attack and ended the battle phase.
So yeah, by today's standards this isn't shenanigans but by mid 2000s...yugi won the duel with MC.
I agree
Surely though, with Contact Out removing Magma Neos from the field in this specific example, there's no longer an attack for Magic Cylinder to negate, and therefore even in its pre-errata state back in the mid 2000s (I'm basing this from the text on the printing of Magic Cylinder in Starter Deck: Jaden Yuki), the card wouldn't be able to function the same in this instance, since there's no attack that it is able to negate? I could definitely be wrong but this was my interpretation of it
At the end of the duel Jaden said his catchphrase “Gotcha!” which he only says if he wins a duel so maybe he won or he said it because he lost. It was clear that he would lose since he attacked with Neos against a 5000 or so attack points Slifer.
There was more than that but I’m not saying Jaden would best Atem he could have a truck up his sleeves
He didn't attack... and yeah Judai won
@@hamzaghazi6373 Yugi won
Yugi won easily
@@swiftthierry6145 It doesn’t matter who won as long as the two enjoyed the duel even without the conclusion
From a pure analysis POV, this duel is actually 50-50 in terms of how it could end.