Rarran Ranks Every Hearthstone Expansion
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whispers of the old gods was the golden era for me. i had SO much fun during that meta man. id love to see twist do an old gods format
The Power Creep went crazy with Kobolds fr
Kobolds was almost an entirely different game. It devolved
I loved it so much, such a fun expansion
Mean streets of Gadgetzan had such a sick theme though... Doppelgangster, handbuff cards, loved the theme of those cards
Unfortunately the meta kinda sucked then. Jade golems, pirate warrior, probably one of the most disgusting mid range hunters, raza priest, playing was a pain then no doubt
Been playing since Beta and I absolutely agree United in Stormwind was the worst expansion of all time.
As someone who wasn’t there could you explain why everyone seems to hate it please???
@@lowstandards3148 A lot of people don't like questlines. I think tradable is generally a liked keyword though, so it balances things out a bit.
@@lowstandards3148 Questlines made the entire meta combo focused, as the rewards for some quests were so powerful ex. Demon seed. So as a result the game lost most interactivity and became who could combo the fastest.
@@darith4248 ahhhhhh thank you. I’ve always hated playing combo decks the most so it makes sense.
@@lowstandards3148 I'm not sure when you got into the game, but Idk if you hate combo decks per se.
What frustrates people today is their "inevitability."
If you lived through eras where most (not all) combo decks had you thinking on "how do I disrupt them and get out of this?" I think you might have had fun.
What I've noticed with the newest quests is that most really REALLY win you the game. The reward is played = checkmate (basically). I was seeing videos from the time to try to see why people hated United so much and DH is "weak" because it's quest doesn't "immediately" win you the game.
United in storm wind is hated because of questlines mostly. But it did also bring in tradable. Which in my opinion balances it out a bit.
it does not. questlines ruined so much. wild became such a shitshow for so long because of it.
Questlines is ruining the game again in twist
@@sunnysangha2097 same thing can be said for so many things, like why is odd or even an archetype? That seems crazy. All I am saying is united in storm wind also brought an amazing new keyword
@@breadbaskets2772 or it is defining the game in twist. Depends on perspective. All I wanted to argue was that tradable is one of the best keywords added postlaunch
@@breadbaskets2772 twist is only fun because of stromwind. standard has insanely smooth brain unplayable meta
So basically rose-tinted glasses - the tierlist
Sunken city getting the respect it deserves
Honestly, I think my favorite year is easily RoS, SoU, and DoD. The story, the FEELING, the characters, the cards, all of it was peak hearthstone imo. I know people don't like lackeys, but I think it was cool that they added more lackeys to the pool every expansion in that cycle. Also, Ashes is overhated, the sheer absurdity and fun of how powerful demon hunter and the infamous Day 2 nerf was hilarious.
kobolds and catacombs was Legendary and there is zero debate
This has nothing to do with the video but Rarran in glasses goes pretty hard ❤️🔥
Festival of Legends is when this game finally broke my brain. I don't know if I need a psychologist but I literally go through so many emotional highs and lows with it. I just feel like the entire game pivots on who gets the best board clear, if someone clears my board my blood pressure rises a lot but then I make a comeback but then it happens again. I hate never really knowing if I am winning or not. Therefore I am always tense praying for no board clear so I can win. I tried Hunter, Paladin, Warrior, DK, Priest, I guess Control Priest or Chad Druid is kinda different but Chad Druid I am just tense praying to get the cards to win and not get burned down. Most decks are basically the same and play the same.
I have not gotten Legend in this expansion I just hate the game so much. Its just making my shoulders tense and me tense and I feel extreme stress. I like feeling like I am winning and getting the tables turned and I lose, I can accept that feeling that is fun for me but never feeling like truly winning is I guess what breaks my brain I can never relax and play this game with a beer anymore.
I would put this expac in the F tier it didn't really add much and made the game change from something lighthearted to something boring, bland and high stress and makes me semi-quit from the game for the first time. /rant
Castle Nathrias added a type of card: location -> Epic
Kobols pushed an entire new game mode -> Rare
+ I think the meta around Kobols was more healthy for the game
Scholomance is S tier for me. Great cards, cool dual class mechanic, I don't recall not having fun in standard.
Personally:
1.Old Gods - the expansion that I started playing. Nostalgia maybe, but sticking by it. The Old God cards were really fun to experiment with and it was cool to build decks around these massive minions
2. Knights of the Frozen Throne- favorite theme and Solo Adventure, the Arthas skin is *well worth it* , and it introduced Hero Cards to the game. Could easily be number 1, but its held back by the fact that some of the DK Hero Cards were blatantly better than others, which made for a somewhat frustrating meta.
3. The trilogy of Rise of Shadows , Saviors of Uldum and Descent of Dragons collectively make , in my opinion, the best overall year of Hearthstone. Individially, yeah, they had their problems, but if you count them as one big expansion, which they basically are, its not even a contest.
4. One Night in Karazhan- this was the first expansion I was there for the launch of and I feel like it doesn't get as much love as it deserves.
The theme had so much flavor, each class felt like they had something going for them and the solo adventure was fun as hell.
The only real downside is that you *could* make the argument that this was the expansion where power levels started to go buck wild.
I remember being a wee lad and thinking how amazing it was going from wisher to ungoro to knights it was such a fun time for hearthstone with so many cool and player friendly decks what a cool time period
MotLK doesn't have cards you remember, Rarran? Have you looked at any Mage or Priest deck list since? What about Anub'rekan, remember that one? Paladin also plays a few. Sanguine Knight? For Quel'Thalas!? Seal of Blood?
Great video! I've been playing since Beta, but I was FTP for many years, so I didn't have many cards. I can't wait for Twist to bring us some old Metas that I couldn't afford to participate in at the time. I didn't like Kobolds and Catacombs meta. I'll never forget Reynad's Meta Review at the time when he said, "You want to make a deck better, just add Pirates!" At the time, the best deck in almost every class had Patches, Southsea Deckhand, and Corridor Creepers - even Mage. Yes, you were running Deckhand just to pull Patches, and those were your only pirates in the deck! He said that every class was playable, because every class played the same deck.
I have fond memories from United in Stormwind as it was when I started playing Hearthstone, but then I played Quest Warlock so... 😄
Bro says he ain't gonna remember festival of legends, he's gonna be remembering this expansion for the rest of his life since he's never gonna get Tony.
My best memory of HS is during Wispers, I made a coin rouge deck, that played 40+ cards. And then played brann + 3x coins + yogg. Saw everything explode and then die since I drew a billion cards and went out in style. Was the best times!
Whispers of the Old Gods was when i got into Hearthstone and man I remember having SO MUCH FUN with it
I mostly agree.
Top 5:
1. Ungoro
2. League of Explorers
3. Saviors of Uldum
4. Whispers of the Old Gods
5. Scholomance Academy // Sunken City
Flop 5:
1. Rastakhans Rumble
2. The Grand Tournament
3. The Witchwood
4. Mean Streets of Gadgetzan
5. Ashes of Outland
Love hearing your thoughts on this. Don't love hearing that one part of gerudo valley repeated forever
Why not put festival?
dude what is the song playing on the background i love it, first i tried to find if theres any comments about it but god rarran gets many comments (ofc it a good thing but not in this condition lol) so im just asking anybody knowing the song??
also, 9 expansions in rare and 6 in common??? wouldnt it make rare common and common rare wtf man i love this guy lol
Sounds like a Zelda song
It's Gerudo Valley from Zelda OoT
United in Stormwind - hated because of quest(lines)
Ungoro - praised for quests (except rogue one)
It shows how polarizing and hard to balance quests are...
Old gods was probably my favourite time, together with League of Explorer's. Game slowed down a fair bit, and combo was playable compared to other metas around that Time. Only came back recently after having quitted after ungoro, so cant say much else
i love how most peoples legendary tier is the exact same, and for good reason
what cards I think will be remembered from Festival? ETC and Tony, can really think of much else personally
Hot take: TGT was fun.
Lower power cards fit the meta well + upgraded hero powers were cool.
Also: inspire isn’t strong but it’s fun.
Low power level helped quell power creep.
Barrens, on the other hand, was really boring or annoying, depending on the card.
I love how inspire works in paladin
Specially the murloc knight
I agree, I started playing a bit before the release of TGT (I was 13 lol) and loved the concept of inspire. Joust was a bad mechanic tho
Upgraded Hero Powers were so much fun that only Warrior (and not really playable Control Priest and Paladin) played them. Also remember Mysterious Challenger? I like the card but you people that bitch about power creep should hate it
@@meruempro not even expansions we like were all fun and rainbows.
My argument isn't that it was perfect in every way or anything. It's just that inspire and the expansion as a whole constantly gets sh*t on, so I wanted to give my opinion.
On a competitive level, I do think I agree with you.
But to give another perspective: I played Justicar control Priest. Not that it was much viable, but it was fun.
Sorry If I came across as one of those people point to anything and says "POWER CREEP!!!!".
"Power creep" is a natural phenomena in card games. It's just a thing that has to be managed and kept in mind whenever things get added.
The (sorta) problem in HS is that, it constantly needs to keep people's interest and create interest in the following expansion. The easiest way of doing so are bombastic powerful cards.
I didn't play during RR, but it seems that the fact it's power level was low is people's main complaint.
I still have my Mysterious Challenger, btw.
As of right now, I'm trying to start Wild and stay at lower ranks so that I can play whatever I want and avoid super tuned and repetitive decks.
Meanwhile, I'm Diamond 5+ in standard.
Cheers.
March of litch king is goated for me but I am biased because I came back when that released
Played from the tail end of black rock to knights of the frozen throne. Old gods without a doubt was my favorite expansion on all fronts. Edit watching longer I realized I did play early witchwood and remember very few things. Biggest one was hating shudderwock and quitting the game.
I am sick of all the Witchwood hate, this was one of the best expansions of all time, in my mind. I genuinely don't know why people look back on this set negatively. I guess just because if Genn and Baku
But this was a time in the game where deck archetypes were so diverse (yes even with the upgraded hero powers) And also a time where expansions werent just spitting out decks specifically for that expansion.
I hate the modern design philosophy of just printing a bunch of hero power druid cards for example. That all synnergise together in an obvious way. I miss the way we used to build decks with a collection of the 30 best cards.
Really thinking about "what is my deck trying to do?" And putting in cards that help you get there.
With the immense power of kobolds, as well as it being a final of the year expansion. The rotation + new witchwood cards created (in my opinion) a very healthy and tasteful deck diversity. Even with the decks like odd rogue, it felt like you had options to add anti-aggro for example and win a few more matchups.
Nowadays, if there is a dominant deck, youre shit outta luck because the meta has already been solved and there are no other cards that go well enough with your extremely specifc "imp warlock" that can keep up with the rest of the cards quality and change the direction of your deck.
Deckbuilding should be expressive and flexible, and i feel like we dont get that at all nowadays with pre packages out of the box, card packages in each expansion.
Witchwood was a great expansion.
Fractured was most fun I’ve ever had for a long time. I played a weird druid deck with yogg, yshaarj, cthun and unnerfed kazakusan. It was not a good deck to win games It was so fun.
Whispers of the old Gods and League of explorers was the best time in HS
My top 5
5. Castle Nathria
4. Old Gods
3. Kobolds
2. KFT
1. Un goro
Worst 5
5. Ashes of Outland
4. TGT
3. Barrens
2. Alterac Valley
1. Stormwind
(Rastakhans and Witchwood have a special place in my heart)
Man, you must not have liked the year of the griffin.
@@KrazyKrab7 no I did not whatsoever. All 3 expansions left a horrible taste in my mouth
You know the saying "the opposite of love is not hatred, it's indifference"? It applies to United in Stormwind. Some people may hate it, but it undeniably had a strong flavor, and it's better than a flavorless expansion like The Grand Tournament, GvG, Karazhan, Rastakhan and so many others.
Personally, I even loved Storwmind, it was one of my favorite expansions of all time, alongside Alterac Valley, Nathria and March of the Lich King. Quests, questlines, heroes, and (strong, unlike Prince Malchezaar) 'Start of Game' effects provide much needed flavor to the game! And the fact it's all temporary makes it all the more justifiable. Why shy away from strong flavors when they'll be gone sooner or later anyway?
Ashes of Outland only one tier behind Voyage is crazy man
Worst was Mean Streets for me. It introduced Patches and Pirate warrior which almost made me quit the game. I endured until late Frozen Throne where i just could not take another second playing against Pirate warrior lol. Have not played HS since.
I remember how I theory crafted decks for the release of Un'Goro. So fun. Of course I did not have the dust.
But small tested my decks. I was very bad at deck building so they wasted so mich dust hahh
Edit: same for Old gods
WEEEEEJJJYYYOOOO Rarran.... Stop I can't sub to every Rarran, Narrar and Nerrar channels
Rarran with the glasses has that DILF energy ong 😩😩😩
Only watched 30 seconds and already agree 100%
Huh, so seemingly I quit just before it got good.
Played for maybe a year then gave up during Karazhan and never bothered to check up on the game until a Rarran video turned up recently in my recommendations.
League of Explorers is S+ tier for me. Introduced the 4 most recognizable legendaries in hearthstone history AND added one of the best keywords in Hearthstone history. Nothing but bangers
I miss TGT, my beloved Trueheart
Sunken City disrespect is crazy
Started playing the day after the Grand Tourney came out. Agree with mostly everything especially that United in Stormwind was the black plague of hearthstone. Voyage should be bumped up. It saved a game that was plagued by United in Stormwind and Colossal minions are almost sure to be a mechanic that comes back in the future. while i think Descent of Dragons should be higher too some games in that time were not interesting in the slightest. However Scholomance was such a cool theme and almost every class had something to do and it introduced dual class cards that i think it should be legendary status. It also had to come after Ashes which did not have interesting gameplay for the most part.
Man I started playing in Un'Goro and would have played more if i knew :(((
I wish I could enjoy Old Gods, played rampy Druids every expansion until old gods, thought C'thun Druid would be a thing, spent all my dust and got stuck in the expansion without a fun deck to play.
It'd never happen but a TGT + Rastakhan Rumble twist format would be super funny. Weak ass hell, random cards shining that NEVER see the light of day
you don’t gotta shout 😭
My fav 5
1 - Old Gods
2 - KFT
3 - Un'Goro
4 - Scholomancer
5 - Nathria
Least fav 5
1 - Stormwind
2 - Barrens
3 - Alterac Valley
4 - Rastakhan
5 - Ashes of Outlands
stormwind was the best xpasion i ever had since it's my first time i actually have a chance of reaching legend , warlock is just best
Goblins vs Gnomes made me quit, so I would go bottom tier using your reasoning
Is naxx out?
Top 5
1: Descent of Dragons
2: Rise of Shadows
3: Whispers of the Old Gods
4: Scholomance Academy
5: Boomsday Project
Worst 5
1: Journey to Un'Goro (Quests)
2: United in Stormwind (Questlines)
3: Witchwood
4: Forged in the Barrens
5: Grand Tournament
imo Un'goro being top tier is a mistake because the meta was unplayable unless you were Mage or Rouge.
Stopped playing because of United in stormwind. Scholomance was my favourite expansion.
Witchwood was a wild expansion lmao. On average it's in the same vein as Rhastakan's Rumble where the cards are interesting and fun in theory just too weak to be meta...then you have the super OP and obnoxious Genn, Baku, Shudderwock and the turbo ass Dustfallen Aviana, Glinda Crowskin and the like.
"Nightmares" should have been "10 Dust"
Un'goro had the rogue quest which was truly the worst card ever printed I think. The rest of that meta was awesome tho.
Hey Rarran, do another colab with Voxy! :D
Forged in the barrans 10/10 dont @ me
old gods and ungoro are the best expansions of all time, factoring in cards released and the meta at the time. KnC comes in at 3rd because ranked was still great and Dungeon Run was just the best thing that ever happened to the single player mode.
descent of dragons made me quit 3-4 weeks after release and ashes of outland demon hunter was the last straw. it made me quit the game for a good 3 years until i gave it another shot with titans.
The best: Uldum, KofT and Nathria
The worst: Stormwind, Scholomance and Kobolds and Catacombs
Sunken City is legendary. Best expansion so far
Oh I see you mention FoL at the end, and yeah I agree! Totally forgettable.
Its fine, twisted is more or less more powerful United :)
Witchwood one of the best expansion
you cant just put gerudovalley theme looping every4seconds on an 18min video :(
You either loved or hated castle nathria. Sire, Theotar, Jailer :/
gvg was the best time in hearthstone by far
I left hearthstone because of the witchwood reveal
United in Stormwind single handedly made the most cancerous decks known to men when it first released... And the quests can be summed up as "Breath 4 times to complete the quest"... Oh my god.
Anyways, Whispers of the Old gods was so freaking precious to me... I remember just beating Bloodborne the previous year and then HS released this and I was so hype... ahhh such good ol'days,
We get it you hate the first two years of DH we all did
kobolds should be S tier, its not all about ranked, there will never be anything like that dungeon run.
I've followed the game since beta (didn't play much because money), and the times I actually played were around Classic-Nax, Whispers, and the whole Rise of Shadows trilogy. As for watching I dropped off at TGT-LoE and Forged-March, the first time was just because watching the game was getting stale with all the Patron Warriors while the 2nd was mainly because I felt that Blizzard was trying too many things at once between Battlegrounds, Classic HS, and Mercenaries. Also the whole mercenaries storyline was just the worst, boring template characters + banking really hard on WoW references probably would work better for people with more WoW nostalgia but that meant that the story and flavor had nothing else to stand on.
I've been playing since season 1... I just can't agree on Knights of the Frozen Throne... It was such a bad experience
Goblins and Gnomes (the fristrating rng aside) had the most uninteractive cards ever.
No other expansion had that much of pro-active gameplay.
Interesting I believe castle nathria was one of the expansion that made me give up hearthstone. Loved renithal but could not stand dinathruis and lost interest in the game even after it was nerfed.
On one hand, mean streets had cool mechanics like handbuffing and jade
On the other, It had patches IN CHARRRRRRGE
jade was a cool mechanic and fun to play with but if u were on the receiving end it was toxic
Okay, but hear me out. If ungoro was never released and quests weren't a thing, then questlines from UIS, being a development of quests, also wouldn't have been a thing, so really, ungoro is partly responsible for UIS and therefore is D tier
For me, The Grand Tournament was the worse. In ladder, it has no imact expect the worse archetype ever- secret paladin. On arena, inspire was so unfair at the time. I started playing hs back then. But League of Explolers was the best, Arena was great even before all those changes and i became an arena player
You love quests but hate questlines. That's strange in my opinion.
Iksars expansions were all pretty yikes.
Knights of the frozen Throne wa sthe worst imo, start of pay2win and hero cards sucked so much.
discover as a mechanic was the worst addition in my opinion, nothing feels worse than losing to a card that didn't start in their deck or even class that somehow, does something to instantly win the game that's how it feels even to this day we have discover problems such as dk discover pool bieng totally op
Its always funny to me how Rarran is like "I hate United in Stormwind because the questlines allowed for no counterplay and losing to your opponent playing entirely from hand and the questlines offered too much impact for what they were" and proceeds with "I love Un'goro! Caverns Below was never a problem, quests are awesome 😃👍"
I really don't get the baku and genn hate, yes they were in all of the decks, but overall you could use many classes so it was balanced. If it's just the fact that everyone used it then why Ranathal didn't get all the hate he was also in 90% of the decks and if you say it's because everyone played the same deck than why is ashes of outland better? the whole expansion was play demon hunter or eat dust, that made more people quit I think. Just saying I had some of the best times with playing baku, genn not really he felt useless but they were both cool options
The ungoro meat riding is insane. Quest rogue made me quit the game
Edit: lmao some other guy was malding about ungoro
same videos over and over again...
I like the copium of putting karazhan in nightmare tier and wotg in legendary, when both of these expansions had basically the same meta since karazhan didn’t have many impactful cards. Karazhan just didn’t shake up the meta of wotg and Rarran associates that with karazhan and not wotg.
No it wasn’t lmao. Old gods had C’thun, Nzoth and Yogg decks each have their own time under the sun. Karazhan was literally dubbed Shamanstone due to how Karazhan gave them 2 great cards compared to the nothing every other class had. It went from good to undoubtedly the best class in the game. There’s no coping involved, people hated it.
bro play the whole song not just the same two bars on loop dude, this is such a hard listen. dislike
Un'goro's overrated as all hell, flavor's the only thing it had going for it - F Quest Rogue, and no one remembers Aggro Murloc Pally but F that deck just as much, also Warlock was unplayable Discolock garbage and Patches the Pirate still ruined everything at the time
"League of Explorers: S Tier - mainly because Discover was added that changed the game as a whole"
Manages to highlight the most toxic, unhealthy, terrible game-design mechanic of Hearthstone, Discover as a positive change. Wow. It is one of the major mistakes that further incentivized random effects and caused the downfall of the game - literally 10/20/30 or whatever percentage of the playerbase quit during the years as the side effect of this design choice.
i had caps lock on and rarran thought i was angry lol