Attack From Behind for Self Defense, MMA and Muay Thai

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2022
  • My friend Shane has this little channel called ‪@fighttips‬ so go subscribe!
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  • @hard2hurt
    @hard2hurt  Рік тому +25

    Go check out this video we did on Shane's channel about where to look in a fight: ua-cam.com/video/9G4CMCcpfVI/v-deo.html

  • @fighttips
    @fighttips Рік тому +188

    Dude, you and the family gotta come back up soon! Had so much fun, and boy are you all in for a treat with the other videos we filmed… 👀

  • @razeenrajaful
    @razeenrajaful Рік тому +280

    I got into fighting through fightTips and then I started watching hard2hurt so it's insane seeing them collab. Also it's very surprising to me that Shane is not tall, he always seemed tall to me.

    • @takkanmelayuhilang
      @takkanmelayuhilang Рік тому +13

      he's 5'8 i think.

    • @crustybomb115
      @crustybomb115 Рік тому +4

      icy mike is just stalkier and stouter

    • @AlexiusRedwood
      @AlexiusRedwood Рік тому +12

      Mike is a killing machine. have you seen his monster legs? This man is strong

    • @user-jh9nw6bz6f
      @user-jh9nw6bz6f Рік тому +5

      Mike now is a definition of collab

    • @TheLuconic
      @TheLuconic Рік тому +7

      Cuz of his oozing confidence and never slouching.

  • @juanmejiagomez5514
    @juanmejiagomez5514 Рік тому +130

    Welcome to hard2hurt, where Icy Mike finds all the reasons to legally sneak attack people lol
    Good video as always

  • @andrewwoods564
    @andrewwoods564 Рік тому +46

    Nice little reference to Shane's video about the weirdest tip to win any street fight (keeping a mouthguard on you at all times). You're an OG, Mike!

    • @wasabi5338
      @wasabi5338 Рік тому +1

      lmao that brings me back. Shane walking through the streets talking to his cam lol nostalgic

  • @caeleb986
    @caeleb986 Рік тому +22

    !FIGHTTIPSCOLLAB!

  • @heresjonny666
    @heresjonny666 Рік тому +34

    As a halfling rogue, Mike gets to add a number of d6s to his damage when he hits an opponent that can't see him.

    • @abdul-salamdreza6774
      @abdul-salamdreza6774 Рік тому +9

      i hate how you made martial arts and dnd are integrate so well lmao

    • @mattmac6069
      @mattmac6069 Рік тому

      Mike is absolutely a little goblin, not a halfling

    • @shinomori69
      @shinomori69 Рік тому +2

      @@abdul-salamdreza6774 they make each other better.

  • @MC-iq5ns
    @MC-iq5ns Рік тому +49

    Shane didn't have a mouthgard in his pocket AND he suggested a sidekick almost immediately?? Not living the gimmick, brother

    • @vexrich
      @vexrich Рік тому +1

      That's an OG reference bro I remember his fight story

  • @Ninjacob00
    @Ninjacob00 Рік тому +68

    Out of ALL the ideas you could’ve done for a first video with Shane this is what you discuss??? I love it Mike lol

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Рік тому +21

      We've covered it. You might end up stuck with that person.

  • @TheElbowMerchant
    @TheElbowMerchant Рік тому +79

    To be fair, a sidekick to the small of the back would probably be plenty debilitating. Massive whiplash and a ruined sciatica would take the fight out of most dudes, even flying high on adrenaline.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Рік тому +28

      yeah... scary stuff

    • @damienholland8103
      @damienholland8103 Рік тому +5

      As long as they're standing still. If he moves a little the result could be weird / unexpected.

    • @subjer0
      @subjer0 Рік тому +6

      Yup. The human skeletal structure has evolved to protect the front of the body, not the back. Any trauma to the back, especially the lower back can be devastating, even with little force.

    • @throwaway2430
      @throwaway2430 Рік тому +1

      @@hard2hurt Hey man! I love the idea of this, but my only question is if the ref is watching in Muay Thai rules could it be mistaken for a punch to the back of the head and get me deducted a point? I'm tempted to use it but I'm not sure. I don't know if you would have a clear answer, but either way if you responded to this I would be stoked!
      Love your videos, man. This one is really cool.

    • @grzegorzp.1827
      @grzegorzp.1827 Рік тому +4

      @@damienholland8103 Exactly. I think results are more random that some people may think
      In extreme skying/sky jumping there were some athletes crash on their backs at 100 km/h. Some get back to feet while others couldn't and got left with broken spine, literally destroyed kidney etc

  • @IHateHandleNames
    @IHateHandleNames Рік тому +64

    Life actually thrusted this upon me years ago. My answer was the hardest soccer kick to the nuts that I could muster. I'm not talking a little tap you would do to your buddy. I was kicking a field goal basically, like a "lift a dude 1/2 an inch off the ground" kick.
    Did it end the fight completely? No. But it certainly took some fight out of him.

    • @castiel241
      @castiel241 Рік тому +54

      Like the great clint smith quote "will a shot to the balls end a fight? No but it's a hell of an introduction. Hi my name is fate and it's only going to go down hill from here"

    • @CriticallyGnart
      @CriticallyGnart Рік тому +11

      @@castiel241 that's a great line haha

    • @Docinaplane
      @Docinaplane Рік тому +3

      That was my answer. I've done it in sparring, but always pulled it.

    • @Ysumbruh0
      @Ysumbruh0 Рік тому +19

      I feel a great disturbance in the sack after reading that

    • @IHateHandleNames
      @IHateHandleNames Рік тому

      @@TubeArmadillo sure, but behind an unsuspecting person it sure is easier.
      I agree with you that, in a fight, they're harder to land than people think. But if you get a completely free one and your opponent then has to fight with an imploded testicle it's an advantage.

  • @hard2hurt
    @hard2hurt  Рік тому +104

    Question for Viewers: if you had a free shot, what would you do?

    • @TheElbowMerchant
      @TheElbowMerchant Рік тому +24

      If I'm defending someone else, I'm going for a step-through overhand elbow to the cerebellum.

    • @vincentlivoti4184
      @vincentlivoti4184 Рік тому +9

      Side shot to the knee. It's not lethal, but it's enough to incapacitate someone if they can't stand, they can't fight.

    • @zachfreedom644
      @zachfreedom644 Рік тому +26

      The man berries.

    • @REDLINE.FGC1
      @REDLINE.FGC1 Рік тому +20

      palm to the back of the head, bas rutten style

    • @JamesRouzier
      @JamesRouzier Рік тому +5

      Stinger whip!

  • @lofiebread
    @lofiebread Рік тому +22

    Love this topic a moment where a “free shot” came in to play that jumps to my mind for MMA is when Francis ngannou KOd JDS with a hook to the head from behind.

  • @Acrosurge
    @Acrosurge Рік тому +6

    Shane's reactions to everything in this video make me appreciate the guy that much more.

  • @jamielondon6436
    @jamielondon6436 Рік тому +3

    - Free shot from behind in serious self-defence scenario: kick to the groin or RNC, depending on situation (namely number of potential threats).
    - Less serious scenario (i. e. breaking up a fight between 'friends'): pull shoulders back and down while (stop)kicking standing leg.
    - From catching the leg and taking the back in sports fight: depends on rule set, i. e. sweep or RNC for grappling, but I really like the version in the video, as well.
    - Defence against video version: Moving away (as shown) is great. Another alternative would be a spinning back fist (like Bas Rutten liked to do). Pretty good chances of catching an over eager pursuer, though somewhat higher risk than just moving away.
    PS: Perfect outro! ;-)

  • @getwhatyougive
    @getwhatyougive Рік тому +9

    [Ah Edwards vs Thompson... the golden Era of mma. Awesome video! Mike comes with the innovative scenarios.]

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Рік тому +5

      one of my favorite knockouts

  • @gooberman172
    @gooberman172 Рік тому +8

    good to see Mike collabing and helping new up n coming youtubers grow

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Рік тому +8

      I'm trying to help this little guy get going.

  • @averagestudent4466
    @averagestudent4466 Рік тому +6

    Took you long enough to make this crossover happen

  • @nathanbateman4255
    @nathanbateman4255 Рік тому +6

    I’ve been in this situation multiple times in security, though I was never trying to hurt the guy. Every time I just grabbed them by the jacket collar and dragged them to the ground. It’s surprisingly easy to do lol. When they were grabbing someone else its a bit more complicated, though

  • @eclipse-tt1un
    @eclipse-tt1un Рік тому

    amazing collab!!!! thank you so much! i've watched you guys for a while now and i must say, you guys put out real quality work! keep pushing! but most importantly , enjoy it!

  • @STRONGERBOXING
    @STRONGERBOXING Рік тому +1

    Great to witness both channels mixing skills and having fun together 👊

  • @ThatMfislit
    @ThatMfislit Рік тому +5

    Iv been waiting for this collaboration for ever! It finally happened!

  • @puqilistique3847
    @puqilistique3847 Рік тому +2

    This should happen more often! Solid stuff.

  • @NestingSpider
    @NestingSpider Рік тому

    Awesome to see you two together!!!
    Thanks...

  • @kalikop
    @kalikop Рік тому

    Always great stuff. Love when all of you guys do these collaboration vids.

  • @davybigfly
    @davybigfly Рік тому +5

    Mike you are the funniest martial arts UA-camr man. I love the videos. I love the collabs.

  • @narcseven4213
    @narcseven4213 Рік тому +4

    moooreeeeeeeeee I could watch these 2 for hours such an energy!

  • @lordeel4737
    @lordeel4737 Рік тому

    Great collab and awesome chemistry between you guys!

  • @nicholasneyhart396
    @nicholasneyhart396 Рік тому +1

    Mike is the GOAT. My wrestling coach entered me in a kickboxing tournament (won last week)for my cardio, took 3 months of Kyokushin Karate, Boxing, and binged your Dirty Boxing videos and managed to turn my trex arms into an advantage. Thanks.

  • @buttox
    @buttox Рік тому

    Was waiting for this collab ever since i saw your tag on his new wall, great stuff!

  • @thatoneleftist
    @thatoneleftist Рік тому

    These collabs are insane, you love to see it!

  • @johnashiru3952
    @johnashiru3952 Рік тому +3

    This honestly made my day

  • @mannys.offbeat2432
    @mannys.offbeat2432 Рік тому

    I had been waiting for this collab to happen. FINALLY

  • @jacobdehahn1163
    @jacobdehahn1163 Рік тому

    This is the collab I've been waiting for

  • @leonmorante784
    @leonmorante784 Рік тому

    i've been following both of your channels for years, im waiting for this collab to happen thankyou for this icy mike and shane fazen 👌🏽 hope to meet you guys in person 👌🏽

  • @108Circle8
    @108Circle8 Рік тому

    Fun to see you guys together.

  • @josephmayfield945
    @josephmayfield945 Рік тому

    Awesome!
    Fight tips was the first channel I started watching for fighting, andShane convinced me to finally take lessons.
    Great to see you two together.

  • @shaggadally
    @shaggadally Рік тому +12

    would love to see some sparring between you two!

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Рік тому +6

      It would be boring.

    • @crustybomb115
      @crustybomb115 Рік тому +2

      @@hard2hurt lemme guess... more mental games instead of throwing shots at eachother?

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Рік тому +3

      Shane is too fast for me.

  • @staysafemartialarts
    @staysafemartialarts Рік тому

    Love this collab!

  • @thedudeabides3167
    @thedudeabides3167 Рік тому

    Mike's energy brings out the best of Shane.

  • @moneyfornothing3264
    @moneyfornothing3264 Рік тому

    Great stuff as always Mike! Thanks!

  • @ronaldsellers3717
    @ronaldsellers3717 Рік тому

    Free shot from behind in a street scenario- Cupped Gerber Slap:
    1. Low risk
    2. Requires very minimal space
    3. High KO/ stun probability
    4. High probability adversary (Even if not KO'd) temporarily loses control of hands/arms. Opens a wide set of follow up options.

  • @judgegerald1275
    @judgegerald1275 Рік тому

    The collab we have been waiting for

  • @astonprice-lockhart7261
    @astonprice-lockhart7261 Рік тому +1

    It's about damn time for this collaboration guys!!!!

  • @thesadanimations
    @thesadanimations Рік тому

    Thoroughly enjoyed, commenting to boost this in the algorithm 👍

  • @russabbott80
    @russabbott80 Рік тому

    Two of my favourite martial arts sources together? Be still my beating heart!

  • @littlestoneliontraditional9838

    This is a collab. I would love to see more of.

  • @Kamingo170
    @Kamingo170 Рік тому

    I've incorporated so much into my Muay Thai and karate aresnel from both of these guys

  • @duracellpower78
    @duracellpower78 Рік тому

    2 of my favorite UA-camrs, cool! More of this please 😇

  • @xreaperxiii
    @xreaperxiii Рік тому +1

    My reaction to someone slipping behind me has always been to turn while throwing my elbow "back" to lead the way, so honestly that jumping hook is my worst nightmare. I might catch you in the ribs but my face would be completely exposed.

  • @xfilion
    @xfilion Рік тому +58

    Hi Mike, loving your channel. I'm from the UK where anything is viewed as a weapon by the police. However, I have watched a few videos where bodyguards 'claim' if the law in a country prohibits mace or pepper-spray they use small cans of hairspray. Its effect is to clog breathing and limit sight. Wondered, as I've seen your mace in the face video from 2019 if you would consider doing a video using hairspray as a self-defense alternative to mace or pepper spray.

    • @crustybomb115
      @crustybomb115 Рік тому +3

      just make sure its no lighters involved... cuz thats an obvious problem

    • @xfilion
      @xfilion Рік тому +3

      @@crustybomb115 No, just hairspray to the face.

    • @redactedcanceledcensored6890
      @redactedcanceledcensored6890 Рік тому +10

      Where I'm from, pepper spray is illegal but I carry it anyway. I have a responsibility to break oppressive, senseless and artificially crime-increasing laws. Plus, I have been attacked by animals more than searched by cops, and legal CS spray was completely ineffective against animals.

    • @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
      @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y Рік тому +2

      Is there a UK party that wants to write realistic self-defense laws ? Vote for them.

    • @loganduncan8789
      @loganduncan8789 Рік тому +6

      @@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y none of the major parties in britian support giving more rights to the people

  • @randycoleman2730
    @randycoleman2730 Рік тому +13

    Mike I have watched all your shit 3 or 4 times over , you have to start posting more often man , ur killing me small’z

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Рік тому +22

      i got 3 kids and own a gym homie! which one do you want me to give up on?

    • @ReturningGlory
      @ReturningGlory Рік тому +25

      @@hard2hurt Maddox is the man of the house now Mike lol. Time to 100% focus on UA-cam haha

    • @randycoleman2730
      @randycoleman2730 Рік тому +1

      @@hard2hurt ok mister responsible adult , way to make me look stupid and selfish lol

  • @kangarookomedy8573
    @kangarookomedy8573 Рік тому +4

    This collab...It’s finally happened!!! 😩

  • @w4rf4c39
    @w4rf4c39 Рік тому

    The man, the myth, the legend.. Shane Fazen!

  • @lloyd9296
    @lloyd9296 Рік тому

    Now that's a really awesome crossover! 🤩

  • @lucasblocher8405
    @lucasblocher8405 Рік тому

    Best video yet!!!!!!

  • @wattlebough
    @wattlebough Рік тому

    Great to see you guys together in the same vid. 🙂

  • @MP-db9sw
    @MP-db9sw Рік тому

    Had to expect this collab eventually.

  • @tiandao
    @tiandao Рік тому

    I have wanted this collaboration badly for so long.

  • @thecharlesedward
    @thecharlesedward Рік тому

    Best collab!

  • @Choppy_Z
    @Choppy_Z Рік тому +1

    The greatest collab of all time

  • @adamash4596
    @adamash4596 Рік тому

    Can't believe it, icy Mike and Shane, that's great!

  • @chrismaynard8600
    @chrismaynard8600 Рік тому

    Great collab

  • @Reubengotgame
    @Reubengotgame Рік тому

    My head is about to EXPLODE! Icy Mike and Shane collab? It's crazy!

  • @davidvalencia773
    @davidvalencia773 Рік тому

    Hell yeah my favorites!

  • @alsvids3651
    @alsvids3651 Рік тому +5

    My gosh, finally!!! I love all the bantering u and Shane got going on. Mouthguard in the pocket, the snake pit of how you throw a hook (palm facing you is the only way,lol).
    Just freaking awesome, can't wait to see more Icy Mike. Hats off to you sir

  • @jcall1982
    @jcall1982 Рік тому +1

    I always had it in my mind that in this scenario, if I'm right behind you.... I'm going elbow behind the ear/back of the head as many times as I can. This was my not-sport-legal plan. But the technique on this video would work just as well in both support and sd it seems. Great stuff.

  • @7fingas7
    @7fingas7 Рік тому

    dear mike,
    i think this is one of the best videos youve done. i dig the collab but i love the effectiveness of the technique. the mma clip is perfect for context! i know it may be hard but try to include more clips of real world context(streetlights,ufc,boxing,etc.). ithelps novice ppl like me understand the effectiveness and makes the doubters stfu. thank you for the continued content. you are one of my favorite youtubers and SENSEI'S!
    - L8niteSasuke

  • @mediapcaccount1154
    @mediapcaccount1154 Рік тому

    Mike finally hit the big leagues baby woooooooooo

  • @nickarnold1622
    @nickarnold1622 Рік тому +2

    Dude Shane's techniques are so aesthetic

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Рік тому

      yeah he's super clean, i'm jealous

  • @adamop0863
    @adamop0863 Рік тому

    The crossover of the century

  • @jesseritchie9282
    @jesseritchie9282 Рік тому

    About damn time!

  • @classahalimaw4606
    @classahalimaw4606 Рік тому

    Nice collaboration

  • @reggiemcfarlane685
    @reggiemcfarlane685 Рік тому +3

    That ending was great 😂… “think this good enough for fight tips?”…. Hard 2 hurt outro 😭

  • @dannyobrian5957
    @dannyobrian5957 Рік тому

    Two distinct sandpapers awesome

  • @jameshotchkiss5577
    @jameshotchkiss5577 Рік тому

    I love that ending

  • @TehDanno1
    @TehDanno1 Рік тому

    Cool move Mike.

  • @johngr1747
    @johngr1747 Рік тому

    This is a collab I could only dream of

  • @Georgekokkinos
    @Georgekokkinos Рік тому

    The collab no one asked for but never knew we needed

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Рік тому

      This is the most incorrect comment I've read so far today... and that's a pretty high bar.

  • @caeleb986
    @caeleb986 Рік тому

    Ferguson vs Kikuno just released as a free fight from the UFC and it's a wonderful example of when sneaking someone is possible in pro fights. Kikuno got hurt and literally started running away, Tony caught him with a right hook from behind lol

  • @coenh8735
    @coenh8735 Рік тому +3

    The collab we didn't know we needed

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Рік тому +1

      Pretty sure everybody knew they needed it!

    • @adamash4596
      @adamash4596 Рік тому +1

      We've known for years we need this, they've even referenced each other on their channels before, thought it would never happen 😂

  • @thedopesickshow
    @thedopesickshow Рік тому

    That intro was awesome

  • @zulphur
    @zulphur Рік тому

    Two of my favourite fighting channels :-D free shot ? Kidney shot or Rare naked choke.

  • @MultiWoWer
    @MultiWoWer Рік тому

    The greatest collab in cinematic history

  • @HeavyHardDrive
    @HeavyHardDrive Рік тому

    Mike reliving a vicious game of tag

  • @yukiminsan
    @yukiminsan Рік тому

    When I actually had to do this in a schoolyard brawl fifteen years ago I grabbed a RNC. Badly of course, because I didn't actually know BJJ but even now it seems like a good idea.

  • @mattthomas8173
    @mattthomas8173 Рік тому +1

    Hey Mike! Hope you’re well, I’ve had a question for a while, maybe you’ve covered it somewhere else. My question is: What are some things others could do if they witness someone being assaulted? And a follow up: What are some things kids could do if their parent is in an altercation?
    Thank you!

  • @ductapeaholic
    @ductapeaholic 7 місяців тому

    Pausing at the 2 minute mark. My go to attacks as a bouncer/doorman if I'm trying to stop something from behind have been chokes, elbows, and slams ... that Fedor hook as well.

  • @dirtpoorchris
    @dirtpoorchris Рік тому

    Free Shot: 0:40 Either lunging elbow right above their spine/below their occipital. Or a leaning full weight gorilla cannon fist hook to the same spot. Assuming its war status attacks allowed.

  • @MG-bi6mq
    @MG-bi6mq Рік тому

    Oh yeah, I use that move all the time. Only instead of the hook punch I grab both shoulders and drag the guy to the ground or knee him in the tailbone.

  • @someboi4903
    @someboi4903 Рік тому

    Shane collab pog

  • @justingolay
    @justingolay Рік тому

    Nice collab!

  • @TrayCaddyyy
    @TrayCaddyyy Рік тому

    Would love to see y’all do arena combat

  • @fabiank4378
    @fabiank4378 Рік тому

    we need Mike and Shane in arena combat now

  • @martialartsunlimited01
    @martialartsunlimited01 Рік тому

    Shane "Scorpion" Fazen with the MK spinal finisher

  • @MakCurrel
    @MakCurrel Рік тому

    Makes the most icy mike technique: "Do you think this technique is good enough to go on Fight Tip?"
    Shane: "Uhmmm..."
    Boom outro.
    You had me in tears. 😂

  • @brunogomezvasconcellos6466
    @brunogomezvasconcellos6466 Рік тому +1

    Agreed, you do sound like a 12 year old about to do something really cool at 22:55
    Great video and i loved the mouthguard reference, you guys are awesome!

  • @moumous87
    @moumous87 Рік тому

    FightTips🙌

  • @derekhoyle5371
    @derekhoyle5371 Рік тому +4

    Not bad, another thing I’ve never thought about.
    Cool Bas Ruten-like contact sound effects from Mike too!

  • @craigadams7102
    @craigadams7102 Рік тому +2

    Karate in my garage got me to Tae Kwon Do, which got me to Kung Fu, which led to Sanshou, and to MMA, and a career in Law Enforcement...why you knocking garage karate lol

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Рік тому

      who the hell is knocking it?