Great to hear your Core experiences, Tom. I've been thinking of moving in this direction too, but both price & the 'beta' aspect have been holding me back. Any reliable data inputs can potentially assist in our intuitive assessments of training & performance, but as you say, balance amongst all these inputs still requires more scientific analysis to 'know' just what is causing what. Whether one is 'average' is of course also related to all these things we can now measure, and what exactly they may mean, for each of us. Having lived in Melbourne until nearly 8 years ago, I had lots of unmetered heat stress adaptation opportunities. Commuting home for more than an hour in 45C heat, it would've been interesting to know my max core body temp, for sure. I've not had more than 30C max days here near the coast since moving further south, so any previous adaptions may have waned, but will any underlying adaptation have actually persisted for this long now? 🤔 I'll be interested to hear your ongoing feedback on Core as it evolves further. Our world isn't likely to be getting any cooler during any of our lifetimes. Adapt, or perish? With Tadej being NOT sponsored yet by Core but seemingly having resolved his heat related performance issues of the past, something seems to have assisted him with that improvement. Just spending more time south of Slovenia may be all it was. UAE also happens to be based in a much warmer climate, too. We shouldn't assume it's due to his use of Core, but I'd still love to see all his Core data! Let's hope you can begin to find some measurable benefits from Core, Tom. Having a data log will likely help you more as this technology improves. My mid-90s Cat-eye computer with HRM & cadence additions certainly influenced my own performance assessments; 205bpm or 55/60rpm anyone?
@@davidlilja9180 I'm looking forward to using it more next season for sure. Based on this year, my starting goal will be to build up enough of a heat tolerance to not get heat related illness when it gets hot outside. Never gets too hot in the UK though, therefore less gains to have compared to Aus and EU summer. But it's still something I can benefit from considering. With all the weird values I've got over time, I can't blanketly recommend it. But it is 20% off until 2nd December with code: NORWEGIAN20.
It could also be interesting to explore effective methods of core cooling, rather than just surface cooling, from ice-packs or water splashes, whilst indoors that could allow such benefits to be translated to events, too. Feeling cooler doesn't necessarily mean performance is improved if core temps are not also been dropped. It's often been said that a hot drink in summer will increase one's cooling more than a cold drink, and a cold drink in winter, one's warming, more than a warm drink, but is this merely anecdotal or measurable? Are our feelings real in such situations, or mostly just learned! Pavlov's dog? 🤔 Just what can we trust for measures of our performance gains? Personally, on a very hot day, I learned to use any unopened, ice-cold can of drink, firstly on both my jugulars for a far better cooling sensation to my head than just drinking it all first. Even if it didn't really work, I always felt better, but did this 'placebo effect' actually work?
@@davidlilja9180 I spoke to one of the best domestic road racers in the UK a bit about the heat training actually. And he mentioned that surface cooling lowers RPE, but doesn't necessarily reduce core temperature, and definitely less that an internal focus. Bigham and Filippo went full on with the slushie eating which is one way to do it. For more convenience sake I was drinking ice cold water instead, in training and in races. Yes, I've heard that stuff too, but not sure if there's a scientific basis behind it. Ik they drink hot tea in India. And I'm certainly drinking piping hot tea year round as a brit lol.
As an auto-mechanic for over 40 years, what are your thoughts about heat dissipation and surface colouring? Engine sumps are supposed to be painted black due to a greater heat loss, than lighter colours. Could the same be true for skin colouring? As a redhead, I used to be as 'untanned' as you, in that pic. Over the year's largely thanks to outdoor work and cycling with high SPF sunscreens, it's not only my arms and legs that seem to have retained a less lightly coloured skin surface. Could any such things be worth also considering with regard to our core body temp? We sweat to lower our temp, could increasing our skin's melatonin content also be of benefit? If carefully done, it does appear to reduce skin cancer rates too.
@@davidlilja9180 Not sure and hadn't considered that tbh. Correlation between how strong your tan is and your performance, especially in the heat? Remco sure gets a pretty epic tan for peak summer!
@@TomLeeCycling There's got to be some genetic aspect to heat adaptation, and differential melatonin amongst us humans seems likely to be involved somehow. So, for some of us, like Remco (?), perhaps we can influence that. Heat and sunshine do seem to be so often strongly related! Melatonin plays a role in many aspects of our lives, including our sleep, so who knows what other biological processes it may be critical in? I'm just thinking out loud, as usual.
Great to hear your Core experiences, Tom. I've been thinking of moving in this direction too, but both price & the 'beta' aspect have been holding me back.
Any reliable data inputs can potentially assist in our intuitive assessments of training & performance, but as you say, balance amongst all these inputs still requires more scientific analysis to 'know' just what is causing what. Whether one is 'average' is of course also related to all these things we can now measure, and what exactly they may mean, for each of us.
Having lived in Melbourne until nearly 8 years ago, I had lots of unmetered heat stress adaptation opportunities. Commuting home for more than an hour in 45C heat, it would've been interesting to know my max core body temp, for sure. I've not had more than 30C max days here near the coast since moving further south, so any previous adaptions may have waned, but will any underlying adaptation have actually persisted for this long now? 🤔
I'll be interested to hear your ongoing feedback on Core as it evolves further. Our world isn't likely to be getting any cooler during any of our lifetimes. Adapt, or perish?
With Tadej being NOT sponsored yet by Core but seemingly having resolved his heat related performance issues of the past, something seems to have assisted him with that improvement. Just spending more time south of Slovenia may be all it was. UAE also happens to be based in a much warmer climate, too. We shouldn't assume it's due to his use of Core, but I'd still love to see all his Core data!
Let's hope you can begin to find some measurable benefits from Core, Tom. Having a data log will likely help you more as this technology improves. My mid-90s Cat-eye computer with HRM & cadence additions certainly influenced my own performance assessments; 205bpm or 55/60rpm anyone?
@@davidlilja9180 I'm looking forward to using it more next season for sure. Based on this year, my starting goal will be to build up enough of a heat tolerance to not get heat related illness when it gets hot outside. Never gets too hot in the UK though, therefore less gains to have compared to Aus and EU summer. But it's still something I can benefit from considering.
With all the weird values I've got over time, I can't blanketly recommend it. But it is 20% off until 2nd December with code: NORWEGIAN20.
It could also be interesting to explore effective methods of core cooling, rather than just surface cooling, from ice-packs or water splashes, whilst indoors that could allow such benefits to be translated to events, too. Feeling cooler doesn't necessarily mean performance is improved if core temps are not also been dropped.
It's often been said that a hot drink in summer will increase one's cooling more than a cold drink, and a cold drink in winter, one's warming, more than a warm drink, but is this merely anecdotal or measurable? Are our feelings real in such situations, or mostly just learned! Pavlov's dog? 🤔 Just what can we trust for measures of our performance gains?
Personally, on a very hot day, I learned to use any unopened, ice-cold can of drink, firstly on both my jugulars for a far better cooling sensation to my head than just drinking it all first. Even if it didn't really work, I always felt better, but did this 'placebo effect' actually work?
@@davidlilja9180 I spoke to one of the best domestic road racers in the UK a bit about the heat training actually. And he mentioned that surface cooling lowers RPE, but doesn't necessarily reduce core temperature, and definitely less that an internal focus. Bigham and Filippo went full on with the slushie eating which is one way to do it. For more convenience sake I was drinking ice cold water instead, in training and in races.
Yes, I've heard that stuff too, but not sure if there's a scientific basis behind it. Ik they drink hot tea in India. And I'm certainly drinking piping hot tea year round as a brit lol.
As an auto-mechanic for over 40 years, what are your thoughts about heat dissipation and surface colouring? Engine sumps are supposed to be painted black due to a greater heat loss, than lighter colours.
Could the same be true for skin colouring? As a redhead, I used to be as 'untanned' as you, in that pic. Over the year's largely thanks to outdoor work and cycling with high SPF sunscreens, it's not only my arms and legs that seem to have retained a less lightly coloured skin surface.
Could any such things be worth also considering with regard to our core body temp? We sweat to lower our temp, could increasing our skin's melatonin content also be of benefit? If carefully done, it does appear to reduce skin cancer rates too.
@@davidlilja9180 Not sure and hadn't considered that tbh. Correlation between how strong your tan is and your performance, especially in the heat? Remco sure gets a pretty epic tan for peak summer!
@@TomLeeCycling There's got to be some genetic aspect to heat adaptation, and differential melatonin amongst us humans seems likely to be involved somehow. So, for some of us, like Remco (?), perhaps we can influence that.
Heat and sunshine do seem to be so often strongly related!
Melatonin plays a role in many aspects of our lives, including our sleep, so who knows what other biological processes it may be critical in?
I'm just thinking out loud, as usual.