BABIES DO NOT COME FROM GOD | DR ABEL DAMINA
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Dr. Abel Damina stirs debate with his latest message! He says "Men and women are responsible for creating babies" and even cites medical science. What are your thoughts? Is there still room for divine intervention? Watch to find out Dr. Damina's full message and join the conversation! #drabeldamina #scienceandfaith #Nolimitinternationalconference
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Children are a heritage of the Lord, the fruit of the womb is his reward. Psalm 127 :3
Thank you for sharing Psalm 127:3, which beautifully reminds us that children are indeed a blessing and heritage from God. Dr. Abel Damina doesn’t deny that children are a gift from God; rather, he emphasizes the role of human choice and natural processes in the act of having children.
The scripture acknowledges that children are a reward from God, but it also operates within the framework of God’s creation and natural laws. God, in His wisdom, designed humans with the ability to procreate. This process involves human decisions and actions, such as the choice to marry and have children.
To illustrate this, consider the analogy of life and death: We all know that God is the giver of life. However, if someone is tragically killed during a robbery, we wouldn’t say that God took that person’s life. The scripture tells us that God is the giver of life, but it was another person who made the wrong decision to take an innocent life. Similarly, while children are a blessing from God, the process of conception and birth involves natural laws and human choices.
Dr. Damina’s point is that while children are a blessing from God, the actual process of conceiving and bearing children is governed by natural laws and human choices. For instance, the physical health and condition of a child can be influenced by genetics, the parents’ health, and other factors, which are part of the natural order God has established.
In essence, God’s role as the giver of life doesn’t negate human responsibility or the natural factors at play. Understanding both the divine and natural aspects can deepen our appreciation of the complexity and beauty of life.
Let’s continue to explore these ideas with an open mind and seek to understand the balance between divine blessing and human responsibility.
@@divinearchispiration3483 your explanation is quite clearer than the way the video appeared, but whats your opinion on couples who are okay physically and health wise and yet are looking for children?
@@ogbonnayaolla5484 If a couple is physically and health-wise okay but is still having difficulty conceiving, it’s important to recognize that there can be many factors at play beyond just physical health. Even with optimal health, conception can be influenced by various factors, including timing, stress, and sometimes unexplained medical issues.
Desiring children despite being in good health is a personal choice that may stem from various motivations such as a deep longing for parenthood or personal or spiritual reasons. It’s not necessarily an indication of physical problems but rather a reflection of their desires and circumstances.
In such cases, seeking medical advice can be helpful to explore any underlying issues that may not be immediately apparent. Meanwhile, it’s crucial to support and understand that different couples may face unique challenges and decisions on their journey to parenthood.
@@ogbonnayaolla5484 For many aspects of life, including issues related to conception, it’s practical to seek medical advice and support. This is not a dismissal of God’s role but an acknowledgment that He has endowed humanity with the ability to discover and apply solutions through science and medicine. God’s design includes both the miraculous and the natural, and our understanding of these processes can be enhanced by both prayer and practical steps.
When we discuss the origins of life, it’s not about negating the divine but recognizing that God’s creation includes the natural laws that govern it. Babies, while ultimately a gift from God, come into being through the natural process He has set in motion. This understanding helps us appreciate the balance between divine providence and human responsibility.
God told Jeremiah that before I formed thee in thy mother's womb , I already knew thee and ordained thee a prophet unto nations
extactly
Jeremiah said God. Did God say He is the one that said that? That was Jeremiah way of communicating what he received as a revelation
Do you really understand English language? Give the passage to someone to explain to you.
@@natholuwatobi4271Abel damina form of interpretation. I'm sorry for baby Christians
𝐏𝐬𝐚𝐥𝐦 𝟏𝟑𝟗:𝟏𝟑-𝟏𝟔
For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them
My grandma had my dad at age over 55 yrs this is God. Because the natural process of a woman ceased for my grandmother but God by passed natural process to give her my dad.
The other grandmas that died and others who are not grandmas, God killed them according to your logic.
@@christalone1147 what a stupid comment
@@christalone1147 what a stupid comment
Everything comes from God; everything exists by his power; and everything is intended for his glory.” - Romans 11:36
Stop misquoting scriptures
This is a misquoted verse. You are trying to make an argument you don't understand and quote scriptures which proves or disproves what is being said here.
let scriptures interpret scripture and let scriptures be the final word. Psalm 24:1
A Psalm of David. The earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof, the world and those who dwell therein
if babies come from man where do man come from. So are babies from man or through man.
If children don't come from God, why was Hannah asking God for one?
At this point she was asking God to help her conceive by miracle. He did not say God cannot give but rather he Said God does not give
False teachings
Too much book na wahala 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
This man, you are looking for trouble 😂 stop asking questions
@@akilaconcept6436my brother can you read what you just posted. What is the difference between her asking God to help her conceive and God not giving babies. Who gave Jesus to Mary. There's nothing wrong if you go back home and do your personal study after hearing a man of God teach it'll help you greatly sir!
This teaching is deeply problematic. If you’re reading this and you happen to be a product of rape or any undesirable circumstance I want to reassure you that you are not a mistake and your life here on earth is divinely orchestrated by God. You are not just a product of biology, you have a purpose and destiny that was ordained by God from the foundation of the world! Your beginning may have been less than ideal but your latter end shall be greater than your past.
Thank you for this sir and may the word of God truly breathe life in us
Thank you for the encouragement
❤❤
God bless you, God bless the special ones who read it, and God bless me.
If you are born blind or deformed, is that God's plan for your life? Do we have deformed babies in heaven that God sends to earth?
This is simply human philosophy not the scripture .
If you listen to Dr Damina,
Follow Him fully not by short clips on His channel on UA-cam @abeldaminaministries International go to the misunderstood God He explains what He means by babies don't come from God He is saying that babies don't come from God in the sense that there's a nursery/factory in Heaven Where God drops children in families and drops some with deformities, But God put a system in man , a reproductive system where a man and woman can engage and have Kids, However if there's a fault or sickness in them or their system, God can heal them and do a miracle , where if they engage it will work or where they can supernaturally have kids, Hope it's clear?
The Bible consistently teaches that humans have free will and are accountable for their actions. For instance, in Deuteronomy 30:19, God sets before the Israelites “life and death, blessings and curses” and encourages them to “choose life.” This clearly indicates that humans have the power to make choices and are responsible for those choices.
Furthermore, James 1:13-14 states, “When tempted, no one should say, ‘God is tempting me.’ For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.” This passage emphasizes that evil actions stem from human desires and choices, not from God.
While human philosophy can offer insights, the concept of free will and human responsibility is firmly grounded in biblical teachings. It’s crucial to understand that the acknowledgment of human responsibility does not negate God’s sovereignty; rather, it respects the way God has created us, giving us the freedom to choose.
Let’s continue to engage thoughtfully and respectfully, keeping in mind the rich and nuanced teachings of scripture.
Someone finally nailed it.. Abel is too proud.look how this man is using his mouth for blasphemy, constantly contradicting himself cos he has refused to humble himself for the holy spirit to school him. U pray he repents while he has time and also learn humility and submit to the holy spirit. Jesus said the child that was born blind was born blind that God's name be glorified. Abel stop call the wrath of God on you by twisting the word of God. Theology and philosophy isn't the word of God..Abel how do you explain that a woman that was pronounced by Dr's to have no womb, eventually conceive and gave birth to many children?? Abel Abel ur pride is too much ooo... Heed d warning of the holy spirit while you stil have time. Abel who made you holy spirit?? Only spirit knows it all.. Abel be humble ooo
@@user-iu6fr9ku1x First, let’s address the core of your argument. The fact that a woman without a womb conceived is indeed a miracle and testament to God’s power. No one is disputing the miracles God can and does perform. Dr. Abel Damina, like many preachers, explores the Scriptures deeply, and sometimes that involves challenging traditional interpretations that have been accepted without question.
Secondly, calling someone proud without understanding their teaching fully can itself be seen as a form of pride. Dr. Damina emphasizes humility and the constant pursuit of truth through the Scriptures. It’s essential to approach such teachings with an open heart and a willingness to understand the deeper meanings, rather than immediately labeling them as blasphemy.
As for Jesus saying the child was born blind so that God’s name may be glorified (John 9:3), it’s critical to understand the context and the broader message. Jesus used that moment to illustrate God’s power to bring good out of suffering. This doesn’t mean every instance of suffering is a direct act of God for glorification but rather that God can work through any situation for His glory.
Theology and philosophy are tools to understand and interpret the Word of God more deeply. They help us make sense of the Scriptures in a world that is constantly changing. Dismissing them entirely limits our ability to grasp the full richness of God’s Word.
Finally, humility is indeed crucial for all of us, including those who critique others. Let’s approach these discussions with a spirit of love and a genuine desire to understand, rather than simply condemning those we disagree with. The Holy Spirit guides us all, but we must be open to that guidance in all forms, including through the teachings of others.
The simple Truth Dr. Abel Damina was attempting to convey the straightforward truth that God created the systems, laws, and abilities that exist on earth and that man has the freedom to choose which of them to use. Man must also accept the consequences of his actions, whether they are good or bad. God is therefore not in charge of this process, but He is able to step in when necessary.
Perfect!
But what’s the point of that message? When in the end we still need God to intervene in times of need? It’s counterproductive teaching. Without God, the systems and laws will not exist therefore we do need god for everything. He said when I call the stars they align. He doesn’t really need us to do anything. We need him. All the time. We can’t do anything without him. If you do, you’re using other sources not of God like “the universe” etc.
@@ki-rj2fhBackward attitude of reasoning, therefore don't get married just pray for babies! The same Bible said go into the world and multiply!! Brainwashed is a deeper problem in Christianity,The same brainwashed gave birth to Boko haram extremist, dead brain without thinking waiting for pastor to read and interpret, the pastors channels their interpretation to personal benefits!
God give children as gift to human beings. 🙏
I love this man hands down! What he is saying is true and common sense. Whether you like it or not, these are facts!
You definitely do not understand the scriptures. What are you saying. You are underating the abilities and capabilities of God Almighty. God gives children, there is no doubt about but man in his/her understanding/ignorance determines how he brings children to the world and the number of children they want. That is man's doing and not God. Please, open your inner mind, read these scriptures and meditate on them and still believe this man that God does not give babies: 1 Sam. 1-27-28, Psa 113:9, Deut. 713-14, Psa139:13-14. May God save us from Dr. Abel Damina.
This one, you are wrong Dr Abel Damina. God gives children for children are special gifts from God. Yes man and woman have to make choices to provide the physical body through procreation but between 4th and 5th month, incarnation takes place which is the entrance of a soul or spirit into the physical body in the womb. The baby in the womb only becomes a human being on after incarnation must have taken place. Who created human spirit? Only God and so God is the giver of children the parents only provide the physical body for the spirit to use for life's journy here on earth
What is your source for incarnation at 4th month? Also when an adult rapes a 12yr old girl and she gets pregnant and dies from complications of the childbirth at such young age, did God contribute to killing the child because God could have withheld the soul from incarnating?
How come you don’t get pregnant if you don’t want
@christiankumalo, how come others don't get pregnant even when they want, I mean medically "ok" couples.
@@kingsleynwofe1244 incarnation which is the entrance of the soul or spirit into the physical body in the womb take place between 4th and 5th month ( middle of pregnancy).
God has no hand in anything evil for He is holiness Himself. God cannot also withheld the soul or spirit from entering inside the body in the womb because the baby made a choice through his or her freewill to experience this earth through reincarnation and has already grantes it.
Again what happened about the rape and baby dying was as a result of karma. That baby must have caused another person's death in his or her previous eath live. Now karma has ripened for the baby to harvest his or her previous karma.
There lots of things to explain. You can inbox me and also check out my UA-cam channel: knowledge of truth and life. Thanks
@@edemasuquo4775 there are some things beyond medical science that is responsible for this. Many women were men in their previous earth lives and vice versa. 2.many woman have destroyed the bridge that allow for pregnancy and attracting human soul into this world. Inbox me for more detailed explanation. Thank you
We need to understand that nothing moves, nothing happens in the world outside of the sovereignty of God. Let God be God..
You said it all. God bless you.
Psalm 127:3-5 - "Children are a heritage from the LORD, offspring a reward from him. Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born in one's youth. Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. They will not be put to shame when they contend with their opponents in court."
Children are the heritage of the Lord simply means it's a blessing to have children because they would be helpful (like arrors in the hands of a warrior).
The children who have caused their parents pain and death, was that an inheritance from the lord?
That statement isn't literal but was implied. That's how scriptures are written, with figures of speech that require interpretation. That's how alot of scriptures are written
@@finamasamuel4825Very soon God will open your understanding. Amen
Lol so who gave Sarah her child?
@@fynebobo who was supposed to give Sarah a child?
Blind followers una go explain tire@@finamasamuel4825
The Lord have mercy on Him.
Amen...
You need deliverance. Your comment makes absolutely no sense at all.
Dr Abel is now a content creator that looks for catchy argumentative topics to amuse people .
Ruth 4 :13 Boaz married Ruth. She became his wife .Boaz slept with her . By God's gracious GIFT she conceived .
Let us not get lost new headlines from content creators
U gerrit
You get it right..
Psalm 127:3: "Children are a heritage from the Lord, offspring a reward from him."
Psalm 139:13-16: "For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be."
Genesis 1:27-28: "So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. God blessed them and said to them, 'Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it.'"
You have choice
Child bearing is a product of God's system
You can choose to bear and not to bear .
Above all, it's still God that gives out everything
Bible said everything is created through him
John 1
I now know why people dont like this man of God!!! You're deep sir! You just got a follower! You know the word sha!❤
So do you believe God does not give children?
yes he is deep because you are not from God. better try and know who you are from sha
Eiiii hmmm this generation
I pity for us
The fact that he is a popular minister does not mean everything he says is right my brother. Don’t be deceive by them. Read the Bible yourself to understand what the Bible says not what Ministers are saying
He is not deep anything, you are simply shallow in your thinking, weak in your inner objectivity and ignorant of the word of God. No man is deep when it comes to God Almighty. How deep can a man's knowledge be when it comes to God. Please, don't join Dr. Abel Damina to belittle God and define God. No man on earth can do that because God is the most Supreme and the most Supernatural. Everything in this universe and world anwers to the Supremacy of God and Supernatural capabilities and abilities. So, how an ordinary man says God does not give babies. This man is blaspheming. Read these scriptures: 1 Sam.1:27-28, Psa 113:9, Deut.7:13-14, Psa 139:13-14..
Psalm 139:16,
For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place,
when I was woven together in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed body;
all the days ordained for me were written in your book
before one of them came to be.
Jer 1:5
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew[a] you,
before you were born I set you apart;
I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
Exo 4:11
The Lord said to him, “Who has made man’s mouth? Or who makes him mute or deaf, or seeing or blind? Is it not I, the Lord?
Man got power from God to handle child bearing that is a blessing from him
He said the truth
Children are the heritage of the Lord simply means it's a blessing to have children because they would be helpful (like arrors in the hands of a warrior).
The children who have caused their parents pain and death, was that an inheritance from the lord?
That statement isn't literal but was implied. That's how scriptures are written, with figures of speech that require interpretation. That's how alot of scriptures are written
Psalms 127:3 Children are a heritage from the LORD, offspring a reward from him.
The man is correct to a very large extent. The system has been designed by God. The physical output is dependent on physical factors (man, environment, etc). The soul, on the other hand, is not man's making. So Damina has a point.
Outside God there is no life
Outside God we are all non living things
So God owns every life on weda we make right choices or wrong
What a message....
May the lord have mercy on this man
This man is confused by knowledge without wisdom and he is darkening the knowledge of God with words without wisdom. And God remembered Rachel and listened to her and enabled her to conceive. Genesis 30:22; 1 Samuel 1:19-20 NIV
Early the next morning they arose and worshiped before the Lord and then went back to their home at Ramah. Elkanah made love to his wife Hannah, and the Lord remembered her. [20] So in the course of time Hannah became pregnant and gave birth to a son. She named him Samuel, saying, “Because I asked the Lord for him.”
Luke 1:13 NIV.
[13] But the angel said to him: “Do not be afraid, Zechariah; your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to call him John. So which God performed all this in the lives of those people as mentioned in the bible? Was it Abel Damina or who? Jeremiah 1:5 NIV
[5] “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
Psalms 127:3 NIV
[3] Children are a heritage from the Lord, offspring a reward from him. Before Abel Damina on this kind of teaching was Chris Okotie but Chris Okotie's has lost his voice on the so called teaching. One day Abel Damina will teach that Jesus Christ do not exist just watch him do that because that's the target of the spirit that he contacted which is giving him the new bible that he is writing today. Abel Damina through that evil spirit is writing his own bible and I advise you all out there to stop listening to him.
God bless you sir
I only pity his followers. This man is no way Godly.
The verses you’ve quoted from Genesis 30:22 and 1 Samuel 1:19-20 indeed illustrate instances where God’s intervention is recognized in the conception of children. However, it’s essential to understand the context and the broader biblical narrative.
First, let’s address the idea that knowledge without wisdom is problematic. True wisdom involves understanding the relationship between God’s sovereignty and human responsibility. The Bible clearly teaches that God has established natural processes, including reproduction, but He also respects human free will. The acknowledgment of divine intervention in these verses does not negate the natural process nor the choices and actions of individuals.
Rachel and Hannah’s stories are examples of God’s grace and intervention in specific circumstances, often when natural means were not working. It’s significant to note that these stories are exceptional and are highlighted in the Bible precisely because they demonstrate God’s ability to act beyond natural limitations. However, they do not imply that God micromanages every aspect of human life or overrides the natural processes He established.
To suggest that acknowledging human choice and responsibility “darkens the knowledge of God” is to misunderstand the balance of biblical teaching. God is not a puppet master pulling strings but a loving Creator who has given us free will. While He can and does intervene, He has also designed a world with natural laws and consequences.
So, while it’s right to recognize God’s involvement and blessing in cases like Rachel and Hannah, it’s equally important to understand that not every aspect of life, including the timing of conception, is directly controlled by divine intervention. This understanding is not confusion; it’s an acknowledgment of the complex and nuanced relationship between divine sovereignty and human agency.
@@divinearchispiration3483 stop defending evil
@@Pastordanci Is that all? Can you be clear on how I am promoting evil? I refuted your scriptures and brought a light to it on my understanding. The least you can do is to do justice and engage yourself in the conversation and not mere scriptures. Now, is there anything wrong with what I wrote? You can correct me
I listened to this message again and I saw the message from the perspective of the preacher. I thing what's saying is that God has created a channel through which children are conceived and deliver, that God has puts the system within man's power to trigger it perhaps he overstressed certain emphasis but what he's saying is truth and not heresy. I am sorry for the previous post.
And those that went through the channel and still didn't make it, like Hannah in the Bible and God answered her and gave her a son. Pls what will u and ur pastor call this?
And those who are having issues with conception even when the doctors reports say nothing is wrong with the man and the woman, they chose not to have children abi?
This man is teaching with the eyes of his heart closed. Who are the people in the congregation? What is their focal point in the spirit?
Just a Wow!
I'm as dumbfounded as you. 😮
U are so myopic about God’s word
This guy is hitting more than he can chew. Damina has crossed the boundaries..
Children are heritage of God..
You are interpreting out of context again lol
Yes, we're all from generation of Adam and Eve
I refuse to be confused sir
I hear teacher, well said. Only those with high insight can understand your teachings and they will be blessed.
😭😭😭aha Jesus
May God open your eyes cause u are under the influence of false teaching,the man is not a servant of God
So if a barren woman comes to him for prayer, will he send her away and say go and look for children because God does not give babies?
Did Dr. Abel say that or it is you asking questions?
Do miracles happen? Yes!
Would the miracle of conception happen without insemination? NO!!
God makes the conditions right, but man must decide to make his babies
Bless you.
Why will a woman be barren?
He was caught sleeping with the wife of one of his members.
Barrenness is a body issue that shows that a part of the body is not functioning as it ought to. God is not involved in the process of childbirth. Barrenness comes as a result of the dysfunctionality of the body, causing a side effect of the body not performing its natural function. This dysfunction does not come from God. It could be from the following:
1. From the Devil
2. From Natural disasters or diseases circulating on earth
3. It could be from the parent
4. It could be from the people (Government, Medical practitioners, etc)
This problem is not from God.
But can a miracle happen? Yes
Can God intervene? Yes
@@finamasamuel4825u talking rubbish
I have been saying this to my friends for long time,, God made everything and hands off,, so everything u do u are on ur own..
When he saw the angel, he was terrified. But the angel said, “Do not be afraid, Zechariah, for your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you will name him John” (Luke 1:13)
God have mercy
Jeremiah was formed by God, Hannah was given a child by God, these are miracles from God, but there are systems created by God that when triggered cause certain reaction, the law of nature, science, birth are systems God has put in place, pastor Abel is right on this
He has so much insight
Children are from God and God alone gives children. Selah
Bible said God gave Abraham good child cuz He knows that he will teach them in the way of God.
You own the trophy sir
Then who blest Hanna, Sarai with children if God is not involved Pastor?
I wish I can take time to explain. Coz I see people won’t understand this message indeed
I am not a member of his church but what he speaks is always true. Just that he preaches University algebra to primary students who don’t sit down and think. But criticise without understanding
@@dryolymatics007 na wa o. So heresy is now University algebra to primary school pupils 😂 it's well. Also, let your speech be seasoned with Grace.
God gets involved when you are unable to have kids and u ask for his help or you want him to give you a child that you'll give to him for his purpose, like the boy Prophet Samuel, mama Hannah's first child....... You have to understand God's system. The man of God is not wrong.
@@dryolymatics007thank goodness at least there's someone here who understands it🙌🏾🥂 the man of God is right indeed.
Exodus 4:11
[11]And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?
Exodus 4:11
[11]The Lord said to him, “Who gave human beings their mouths? Who makes them deaf or mute? Who gives them sight or makes them blind? Is it not I, the Lord?
Did God mean he created moses' mouth and parts literally? haven't you studied wholistacally that He said that for the purpose of encourging his prophet Moses for the assignment given which was the Exodus or delierance of "God's people" from captivity? Exo. 4:12-13.
It's simple a simple lesson. He uses people (regardless of their conditions) to fulful His will when they believe. He didn't create the dumb or deaf or blind. James 1:17-18
So why are people disabled? That you should learn! It cannot be God!
God is not responsible for kids born with infirmities, that's the result of the departure / the fallen nature of Adam that we inherited, that Jesus is saving us from.... Remember the redemption plan of God is still in the process to save man from the fallen world, that's why he is gonna destroy this world and create new heaves and Earth where his absolute glory will be made manifest.
He's expanding the perspective from one point of view... You never take God out of the equation...Is true there's a mechanism for continuity built in man but regardless God still have a say...This is true when you are speaking to with Athiest but not Christians.
So, how is a pastor preaching without reverencing God? Is he a pastor or an atheist or philosopher
Abel Damina return, for if thou return thou shall be save
It is a predestined system put in place by God
Yes . So God has already set it down.. like a template . So he sits and over watch… Then intervene when he needs to…
This is the exact truth that he should have said. Thanks a lot.
Yes.. he should have explained it in this way
Wow ....🤔 Well he's right in a way, but not completely
Imagine what you are saying. Deluded soul. smh
God is the one who gives children without God u can't have those children because some are married for 20 years but they don't have any child
The only thing Damina is wrong about is that, he enters primary school to teach university physics. Leaving babies confused and to conclude he is preaching heresies…
But even when I don’t attend his church when I sit and think deeply about what he preaches I actually realise he always speaks the truth.
God created the system that make babies and gave man the seed to make babies. So man is the one now who has the authority to make babies. It does happen at times that the system for making babies may have defects, not because God is imperfect but because sometimes God wants to display his glory. So, when someone is barren and prays to God, He does not put the child inside the womb. But God corrects the system to show He has the power to do so. When the system is correct man and wife can now go ahead and make the baby just as Sarah or Hannah did in the bible. If these two didn’t sleep with their husbands they would have produced any babies at all. So, at the end the child came from the man. Jesus was the only person whose seed came from God.
But one thing people should know is that nothing in this earth takes God by surprise: He knows when a man is going to sleep with a woman and that a baby is going to be conceived or not. So, this is why God can actually ordain a child before it even exists. That is why Jeremiah said God knew him before he was even in her mother’s womb. This doesn’t disprove what Damina is saying, but this attests to the fact that God is there yesterday, today and tomorrow. He knows what decisions we will take and interferes with them.
It’s more like God saying, I know the plans that I have for you. If you think of it does that mean that the life you living now is planned by God? Nope, you make your own choices, but in all that you do God knows the outcome.
A new born child is not a blessing because he is born. He becomes a blessing based on his impact in life. Suppose the birth of a child destroys and splits the family apart and brings hatred, is that child a blessing? Definitely nope. Also, suppose your child becomes a robber or a murderer is that still a blessing?
But if a child brings hope, love and peace and joy then that child is a blessing. No blessing has hell as its destiny.
A child becomes a blessing only when he accepts the call of God in his life and brings life and joy. Until he leaves a life which is not Gods plan that child is not a blessing in anyway he may be a curse in the family till Jesus becomes his master to remove that curse.
If God is the one behind putting children inside the womb then every child will be born without sin. But if children already have sim in their wombs does it mean God deposited him with that sin? I will leave it here for you to think and ponder on this message carefully and as brothers and sisters before we criticise or rebuke, let’s take time to understand where our brother is coming from. He may be a pastor but he is still our brother in Christ as we are all brothers and sisters.
I am not sure if I did a good job in trying to answer some questions posted here, but you may feel free to question me about this and I am more than happy to re-explain what am trying to put across
God bless you bro.
God is not logic, don't try to explain God with logic. God is not logical, He is "I Am that I Am". You should ask yourself how come Adam sins when sin never existed anywhere before.
Was he not made perfect? Shouldn't his perfection have prevented him from committing sin? God is I Am that I Am.
God made everything visible and invisible, all things were made by Him and nothing that there is that was not made by Him. The book of revelation concluded and Said for You have created all things, and for your Pleasure they are and were created(Rev 4:11).
Because something sounds good and sensible to the hears doesn't make it the mind of God. Jesus told the people to search the scriptures, why so they can be grounded in the truth.
You are to know the Lord for yourselves, for if indeed you believe in Jesus. You will submit yourself completely to Him and won't be chasing controversy that don't get people established in seeking after God but makes man a god unto himself.
What is the total dependency on God therefore if I can make somethings work for myself? Why do I need God, if I can just apply the formula? He is not needed, I don't need to seek Him. I can plan my children and plan their sex as well as plan their growth following the system. Why do I need God then?
Was this not some of the teaching atheist have or heard that made them conclude there is no reason to believe there is a God.
Let's stop all these high superfluous of teaching that doesn't bring conviction to serve Christ and teach the total surrender of self that Christ came to demand for the world.
Except a man be born of the water and spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God. Labour to enter in by the narrow gate for wide and broad is the way that lead to destruction. Many are they that in such way
He is completely using philosophy in Scriptures. Even his philosophy is full of absolutes and exceptions are made the rules...
May God help us...
@@adewajoba2014i advice you to ask God for clarity concerning that matter brother man 🙏🏽 its Good you can reason and you have the necessary knowledge of God to make it through, but on the matters we are discussing, you need help.
To respond to a few things you said, check on the 7th day God rested, meaning he was done creating systems that will help his children to engage with him, if you follow the systems he put up you'll have the result designed for that system, but the difference is when you ask for God's help he will show you on how to follow up his system so you can reap ultimate results because he created the system therefore he will give u guidance on doing it....but if you do it on your own you will reap results but with side effects that are gonna ruin you because you did not walk in the guidance of the creator,,,,,,,,,,, that's why you see that a person that just gets a baby without first asking God the child is most likely to be a troublesome, but he that asks God for children then he goes on having them, those kid's lives are secured they now become a blessing from the lord.
Two people trying to be rich, the first one without God, he will be rich when he follows principles to being rich, but that wealth will bring about frustration etc because he only followed the principle without God's guidance, but the one that tries to be rich through Christ will be a blessing to many and that wealth will not corrupt him because God gives the power to make wealth, this power teaches you how to handle wealth without being corrupted.
Its about systems and God giving you guidance on how to cultivate the systems.
The system of prayer, everyone prays but not everyone reaps the same Good outcome of prayer, because some pray on their own and end up not seeing the appropriate results because they prayed wrong, without guidance, and others pray in accordance with the will of God and his guidance on how to pray so they reap out the best results prayer can bring about.,
Excellent work brother man🙏🏽🙌🏾 you did a good Job, indeed you're eating meat and not drinking milk🙏🏽😂😂 well explained.....
There are biblical evidence that states otherwise.
Where are you getting your inspiration from pastor?
For sure time has reached , people are confused, Timothy 4 . people will be out of faith
Man of God please don't disconnect the people of the lord.
He's doing it already
That's what he is doing
I just pity his followers
You're all blind. You guys are the same people that believe Jesus is White 😅. Better shine your eyes and make use of your brain. I feel like people are helping you guys use your brain.
Judg.13.2 - And there was a certain man of Zorah, of the family of the Danites, whose name was Manoah; and his wife was barren, and bare not. -- kjv
Judg.13.3 - And the angel of the LORD appeared unto the woman, and said unto her, Behold now, thou art barren, and bearest not: but thou shalt conceive, and bear a son. -- kjv
Judg.13.4 - Now therefore beware, I pray thee, and drink not wine nor strong drink, and eat not any unclean thing: -- kjv
Judg.13.5 - For, lo, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and no razor shall come on his head: for the child shall be a Nazarite unto God from the womb: and he shall begin to deliver Israel out of the hand of the Philistines. -- kjv
By revelation we understand that God's ways are consistent through the years. What i mean is that, he's the same yesterday, today and forever.
So if this teaching about children not coming from God is true, then it means that, children born into this world of whose existence and purposes had been forseen before their birth, are all lies.
Meaning that, the birth of john the baptist is a lie,
The birth of Samson is a lie right?
And if this statement is true,
If God has no business with child birth, if God doesn't contribute into bringing any one down here,
Then why do we call heaven our home?
If heaven is our home, it means we came from there right?
So judging by your statement, it means that God contributes nothing to child birth, right?
In other words, e hand no dey baaa?
So, outside the scope of this earth, he never knew us, right?
As in, our appearance on earth marks our first meet?
Please lemme understand you clearly biko.🤔
God contributed already by putting up that system of whereby if two fertile people have intercourse the result will be pregnancy.
If only i had the energy to type I'd explain it for you in details
All humans have a spirit and it’s God that places a spirit within them; when a woman conceives the Lord sends forth the spirit ; the spirit of that baby comes from God .
Owky all of u saying he is wrong, then do the opposite of what he is saying and feel the effects if it will be pleasant to u. Dr Damina is telling the truth here, even without backing it with the scriptures but it is common sense.
scripture is scripture not common sense.
1 cor 1:27-But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise, and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty. isiah 55:9-“As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.In summary, this teaching is wrong
The imbalance here is that there are people without wombs that have conceived,meaning the system was bridged. Some statement should not be made as an absolute because it might not be the whole truth.
Exactly. Uncommon Common Sense.
What is common, nothing about God is common it must have scripture proof
Psalms 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
I don tire for this man
Teaching good. Thank you very much sir.
which teaching is good
@@deniskoech3121common sense is not coming .. logocally Abel damina is right .. God has set this things down already. That’s why he’s resting . And intervene when he needs too.. kinda simple
God will rest after He put an end to this world.
I have noticed anytime people disagree with this Man point of view, they always quote from the old testament to tackle his point, and not a single quote or reference from the new testament.
People have easily forgotten what Jesus Christ said in John 10 vs 8(
All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them..).
Let's just allow our life and actions depend more on the new rather the old. It's well.
Is the old testament not the word of Jesus? If its then I see no reason why I can't reference any body to it..
You are one of those thieves, not the old testament.
Exactly… I saw one comment saying . Please leave us with the 10 commandments.. like what ??? 😂😂
Did the pastor quote from the new testament to prove his point?
Yet many people are listening to this kind of messages.
I pity his followers
It takes wisdom to understand what he means, God bless you man of God.
Simple.. common sense .
Why should we always need wisdom to understand Abel Damina?
@@chekwaschidi Because of impatience and lack of sound culture of learning . Makes people arrive at “ he’s controversial, heresy.. and all that. 1 thing you should know is that The Truth will sound funny and meaningless in the ears of a man who is used to lie . Simple . So many false teachings and misinterpretations of the Bible has been going on for ages… If you listen carefully with logical understanding and the Holy Spirit you should arrive at a reasonable conclusion. Simple wisdom
You're mad
@@user-cd4vv4sv4m i am a student of scripture and I can tell you his revelations are one sided, then he adjust other scriptures to fit what he thinks is a revelation. Only you guys take him seriously.
Confused human being, what did God tell Adam and Eve? Be fruitful and replenish the earth. Stop confusing those that can’t separate your bad teaching from the good one
It is well,I pray God will reveal himself to you.
Amen...The man Abel Damina needs to repent
This man is a genius hands down
Bible says that children are a gift from God. We follow Gods words. Not mens opinions
Exactly. This Man is confusing people out there for real.
Who wrote the bible? Is it God?
@@dominicodion1301
Is the word of God, by the inspiration of man or God?
You are using this scripture totally wrong. God has in the beginning created man to conceive and bear children so as the system has been designed and created by God so it shall be, but God does not interfere with the system, man is doing that out of his own doings
Yes they are a gift from God that is why when a child is born no mater the circumstances you don’t have any right to dump the child or kill the child because it’s a gift from God. But God didn’t produce the child
Who told Abraham a year from now, Sarah will have a son?
Genesis 18:10
The LORD said, “I will surely return to you about this time next year, and Sarah your wife shall have a son.” And Sarah was listening at the tent door behind him.
1. God
2. Abraham
3. Science
4. Satan
God created goats And Lions
When Lion get pregnants
Where is the Lion baby coming from
From God?
Lion parents?
Science?
@@cryptomaestro1
If you can't answer the question in truth, your sarcasm won't take you anywhere.
@@cryptomaestro1your question does not make much sense. Are you lion or human? Everything that happens to humans must not always happen to animals. Otherwise, I'll ask you when lions die where do they go to?
Heaven
Hell
Just Disappears
Genesis chpt 21:2. Also are babies lives and from whom does life come from.
God have mercy on him and his listeners
U are so myopic about the word
They find it hard because they have been engrained for years with wrong teachings, its usually difficult to learn and unlearn
This teaching is true and necessary but one point is left out; God is sovereign over all and allows things to happen, God has also closed the womb of women in the bible.
God is interested in every aspect of our life and it is his desire that we seek his face in all things, however, he does not take away our initiative and free will. Adam decided to eat of the fruit, the Israelites asked for a king, God permits somethings doesn’t imply that it is the will of God.
The wisdom in this teaching is that in many instances ( not all) when people give testimony about how God has blessed them with twins or triplets after years of waiting, they intentionally leave out the details about IVF or other medical intervention while ascribing the glory to one handkerchief or holy water from the pastor. This is deceitful
And what about Sara Anna Rebecca barren until God bless them with good children like Issac Joseph Samuel.
Psalm 127:3-5 - "Children are a heritage from the LORD, offspring a reward from him. Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born in one's youth. Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. They will not be put to shame when they contend with their opponents in court." where is the teaching from this coming from
Children are the heritage of the Lord simply means it's a blessing to have children because they would be helpful (like arrors in the hands of a warrior).
The children who have caused their parents pain and death, was that an inheritance from the lord?
That statement isn't literal but was implied. That's how scriptures are written, with figures of speech that require interpretation. That's how alot of scriptures are written
John 9:2 His disciples asked him, "Teacher, whose sin caused him to be born blind? Was it his own or his parents' sin?" Jesus answered, "His blindness has nothing to do with his sins or his parents' sins. He is blind so that God's power might be seen at work in him.
So how will you explain the case where a woman who have reached menopause gave birth at her 60th year
People r hailing him
That’s a blessing and her destiny don’t forget every human as a time destiny so that’s her time God is not responsible for it is her nature an her destiny so if u doubted saying is God that’s responsible that means u are condemning God because it will look like God is doing partial look in this case that others are rich why others are poor while some poor will make it at the age of 30 years some got rich at the age of 50 to 60 why dey was Other young 18 to 20 years that was already rich because is their destiny is not a miracle
but Bible said that man has nothing except it's giving from God
Its just sad day .... i am crying in spirit. To think a Man of God can stand behind the pulpit and utter such things. At first i laughed... then it just dawned on me how much decay has affected the church today. Its painful😭😭😭
Not behind the pulpit but in front of the pulpit
True....
But now who makes that system? And, how about Jn9:1-3. And, am sure if God weren't responsible for babies, Jesus wouldn't have been born
Lord have mercy
This this man is always preaches the realities
God help us😢😢.
You are teaching science now
Ministration without a single Bible verse, is it not better you go on and be preaching medical science instead of misleading innocent minds??
Did you listen to the whole message to conclude there was no Bible passage?
@@finamasamuel4825 what's what listening to in a message of flesh and perversion, you listen to it again and tell the Bible verse not verses. Stop now, you're not making impact.
@@segunkeku2028 neither are you communicating because you should be dealing with specific matters not bantering
@@finamasamuel4825gbenu son... listening to what will land u in hell...
@@adedokunoabisi9484 what takes people to hell?
Although I don't listen to him but this he said is true
I have seen people who did all the medical blockage and still got pregnant. What do you have to say about that, sir? Then what do you have to say about what Jacob said to Rachael?
Yes Sir I belive what you saying because God made evrything and saw it was good and He rested....so now everything comes out of everyting He has already made
As simple as that . It is a system predestined by God .
So you believe God does not give children. Let’s be careful how we listen to people without reading the Bible ourselves. Nobody is canal here. Stand for the truth. The fact that you are following him does not mean always become convince by his teachings. Even Paul rebuked Peter in Galatians 2:11. I can’t condemn him to be a false teacher. only God knows. In Zachariah 3 when the angel of God appeared he did not rebuke the devil himself but said may the Lord rebuke you. So let’s wait and see.
Eiiiiiiiii Dr Damina always preaching Herrisies
Dr Abel is a God send to save the world from the evil criminals pastors.
To save you, not the world
@@sheidutosinemmanuel7837 Are you one of the fake yahoo plus plus self claim pastor or you don’t want people to be free from those evil pastors ?
I honor u sir as a pastor and as a father according to Exodus 20:12 so that my days may be long but you see this teaching, i no gree. Well u are human and no one is perfect but ur own don too much sir, how can u say children are not from God?
Please we need to know our Bible, me I don't follow messages without Biblical backups.
What does your Bible really say
You make sense but I can't really say more about this issue. I can not say something wey I no know
Everything comes from God...he is the Causeless Cause.. everything is predetermined by divine will
This is so true
How true is this
God said to Abraham next year this time you will be father ,God closed womb and open it , God bless us with fruits of the womb and hairs of our body
When sth is not in line with his logic ,he disputes it.The bible says I knew you before you were born .The life of everyone start before his conception .God assigns the call to each and every one his birth. For we are his creative work, having been created in Christ Jesus for good works that God prepared beforehand so we can do them.[a]Eph 2:10
The life of every one starts from God before being conceived
15 My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place,
when I was woven together in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed body;
all the days ordained for me were written in your book
before one of them came to be.
This Pastor is more a motivational speaker than a preacher.
accurate if you can deeply think about it
You’re right 💯
John 1:13 Which were born not of the flesh nor by the will of man nor blood but by the will of God
Make sense ....
So many people don’t understand this teaching. This is deep and it will go over some people’s head like a roof. People bringing bible verses should read and meditate on those verses. Understand the verses pls do. Someone will say is a child not a gift from God ?Yes they are a gift from God that is why when a child is born no mater the circumstances you don’t have any right to dump the child or kill the child because it’s a gift from God. But God didn’t produce the child
Quiet, there's nothing like deep here. We should stop destroying scriptures. This man is going too far . Gen 30:2.
Didn't produce he allowed
You are simply brainwashing your self
Baby did not come from God. Please i need answers to this question "Who was the person responsible for the baby Jesus in the womb of Mary the mother of Jesus?"
Jesus is a special case nah. Jesus obviously came from God and that's why He is the Son of God.
@@religion_philosophynow He even said the only human being God produces by Himself is Adam. He should learn to balance his teaching; Not trying to underscores one truth by destroying other truths.
The sovereign act of God should not be undermine or neglect because he trying to underscores and emphasis the man's responsibility.
You can not separate God from the system He has made.
In bioethics it is not all what medical science are doing that are endorse or accepted. Because it is not all medical science are doing that are ethical.
Medical science seldomly work and violate God system and law. Even the Bible said Isaiah 24:5
[5]The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.
@@spiritoftruth3189
Yes, Adam is the only Human that God created. Since then Parents are responsible for child birth.
@@religion_philosophynow The system of reproduction who created it? Man or God? I need an answer
@@spiritoftruth3189
Aeroplane, Technology and other fascinating things are created with the brain and hands of men created by God, and it is safe to say those manmade things are not created by God. So when there's accident through those technology, we can't say God did this just because God was the one that created the Brian and hands that made the technology that's causing accident.
Same to children. Children are products of will of man.
This Bible verse explains how natural childbirth is not God's doing per say: 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
He's partly right
I say this all the time and people who can't think for themselves say children come from God.
Genesis 17:16
And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her.
Genesis 29:31-35
And when the LORD saw that Leah was hated, he opened her womb: but Rachel was barren.
And Leah conceived, and bare a son, and she called his name Reuben: for she said, Surely the LORD hath looked upon my affliction; now therefore my husband will love me.
And she conceived again, and bare a son; and said, Because the LORD hath heard that I was hated, he hath therefore given me this son also: and she called his name Simeon.
And she conceived again, and bare a son; and said, Now this time will my husband be joined unto me, because I have born him three sons: therefore was his name called Levi.
And she conceived again, and bare a son: and she said, Now will I praise the LORD: therefore she called his name Judah; and left bearing.
Genesis 30:22-24
And God remembered Rachel, and God hearkened to her, and opened her womb.
And she conceived, and bare a son; and said, God hath taken away my reproach:
And she called his name Joseph; and said, The LORD shall add to me another son.
Exodus 4:11
And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?
Even though i understand what this man is saying. My problem is his senseless way of saying it.
Lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂 na where the problem dey be that.. unlearned teachings