@albundy5492 I heard someone else break it down. It's not my math. I chested lol. There are 12 teams either 12 players on each team. 144 total players. 12,000,000÷144=83,000 and changed. So I was off by 5k.
'The NBA is 75 years ahead of us' pretty sure when the NBA began the players had second jobs, these ladies are making six figure salaries in a league that loses money.
No it's not bad. It's hilarious. And guess what it's getting them eyeballs. So I guess it's good. 😅😂. They a joke. But a joke we all enjoy laughing at non the less.
@@dustyjeffers5716 there's a few good players doesn't help that Candace Parker just retired I like Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese coming in they're entertaining ball players to watch
"We should be getting a percentage of our jersey sales!" Have you ever in your life seen someone walking around wearing a WNBA jersey? Because I haven't. Not once.
Once, the guy was homeless, filthy and inebriated, but he had a NY Liberty jersey on. I had a hard time discerning which team it was until I realized that he was wearing a WNBA jersey, and ripped sweatpants, and unmatched socks.
You can't owe on revenue sharing. Even if your revenue is 50 cents sharing that would be 25 cents. You are thinking of profits sharing which is why they aren't asking for that. They want a cut of the money coming in only and ignoring the loss (which would be greater) and letting the NBA deal with the loss. It's hilarious honestly, they will destroy their own league by being selfish (well cost the NBA a lot more money).
@@Canucks44219 The NBA owners aren't coughing up any additional money to keep the WNBA afloat. Unless of course a 3/4ths majority decides to cave into 'shaming'.
I was just casually watching while listening carefully to the dialogue. But my focus switched to watching once I began to smile, then chuckle, then laugh at every shot.
It is actual hard to watch this video, yes it is worst case footage, but man, in these moments it seems even a casual male player could compete there in regard of technique and athletics. Also how do you want to get a bigger share of revenue when you make a big deficit each season? Isn't that share 0 at the end at least?
So what you're saying is that the NBA should use its annual profits to pay people to attend WNBA games, or a bit less to watch on-line? Makes about the same sense.
The average WNBA salary is $147,745.00 (per website Queen Ballers Club as of 04/02/2023). That's a good paycheck for a league that perpetually operates at a loss.
The WNBA loses $10 million a season the truth is that number is actually much higher, all the logistics needed to run a stadium during the games are losing millions more during each season. And also the WNBA has never been profitable since it's inception.
Worst comparison by the narrator ever. I've seen way more finished layups from any middle school game I've ever watched (or be a part of) in 1 quarter than I've ever seen in any WNBA game ever.
Let's just put it this way. Im a woman and Im a huge nba fan. Nothing gives me more joy in life and chills than watching my team and good basketball. But you can't pay me to watch the WNBA.
Instead of these spoiled brats getting down on their knees and thanking the NBA charity for funding this disaster of a league, they have the nerve to demand a raise for a failed product. The gall to demand to be paid more in a league that LOSES over $10 million annually never ceases to confound me. These ladies must all have majored in Social Justice Warriorism or Women’s Studies, because it’s clear NONE of them took any math classes. I hope the league collapses and folds so these knuckleheads have to actually make a living actually providing value to a Company. Then they’ll get a lesson in how salaries are supposed to work.
The last time I watched the wnba is when lisa lesley, rebecca lobo, tina thomson, sheryl swoopes teresa wheatherspoon were playing. It was actually fun to watch those girls going against each other. Now days not so much.
My mom was a good basketball player. Set records in her high school and was offered a bunch of college scholarships. I always used to laugh because of how much she hated watching women's basketball. She said it was like watching paint dry.
My daughter played basketball. I’d take her to high school and college womens basketball. It was awesome. Great positive environment. WNBA games are full of lesbians. In the stands, on the court. Which is ok. But we’re not into that.
The moment that women's basketball stops being subsidized is the moment that women will decide to make the adjustments necessary to make a league profitable. Their low risk low reward strategy will never achieve the results they want.
Agreed also if they can with all do respect get female who has spending to put money to it also the LGBT+ community like how they support female singers.
Nah. Because it wouldn't be funny because it's the same as watching them play normally. It's low hanging fruit. Making fun of the WNBA for playing bad would be like making fun of clowns for being like clowns.
I remember in 2022, I was on a flight with the back seat entertainment. I turned on ESPN and I think Around the Horn or Pardon the Interruption, some annoying talk show. ESPN2 had game 1 of the WNBA Finals.
Where exactly is the WNBA supposed to get the money to pay their athletes higher wages? In every game, the stadiums are always half-empty , and anyone at home is rarely ever watching a game on TV. If you want more money, then you need more fans, ladies!
Yeah on average WNBA players are 60% the size of NBA players and still play on the same court, with the same highth hoop. This really shows how little they are trying to improve the sport. They should try just try once and scale it to their size and see what happens.
@@bella42291 Wait.....If anything, the court dimensions should open up the offense because there is more space. And female players are not nearly as quick as male players. It takes longer for female players to react and get to the ball handler or shooter.
@@bella42291 BTW, women play on the same size tennis court as men. Women play on the same size volleyball court as men. Women bowl on the same lanes as men. Women compete in the same Octogon in MMA.....
I 100% agree with WNBA players should get a majority of the profit from the league. So when are the players going start paying back the money they owe for the league’s losses?
By my count, it’s approximately $83,333.33 per player that needs to give back to the owners for even having a league for them to play in and that only covers for this year and not the previous 25 years.
@@zacheryseymour7297 Holy Christ, and she literally said "We're talking about apples to seeds" the WNBA is still in its infancy compared to most leagues, when the NBA was in it's infancy the players got paid like shit, because it wasn't marketable yet, WNBA is much less marketable even compared to 50's NBA and they're talkin about similar revenue? Blows my mind how clueless they are.
I love the TNT crew. You can tell they have love and respect for each other. It’s a pleasure to watch. Also the Charles and Ernie podcast the steam room is great. I could listen to them BS all day long.
Watching the WNBA is like watching 2 hrs of blooper reels. It cracks me up. My daughter's all play basketball and occasionally will watch a game. They see the air balls and missed lay ups and it always turns into a how to not doing something moment.
I'm not a basketball fan but this is really painful to watch them all stand around while one player takes a mediocre shot. No guarding or pressure, and they still miss. By the way, war, war never changes
@@mercx007 To be fair, I was amazed by those specific moments, so I looked a little closer; those specific moments are from what I believe is the WNBA All-star Game or some other exhibition game. So they're half-assing it because it's an exhibition game. The NBA guys do the same thing, more or less, in their exhibition games. They just don't miss the lay-up or dunk four times.
People forget that it was not that long ago that players in MLB, The NFL and NBA had to have off seasons jobs to pay the bills. I remember when the NBA finals were taped Delayed to Midnight on CBS and their cable TV partner was the USA network. Baseball was around for 100 years before players started making real money. The WNBA needs to pay their dues and accept they will never be on par with the NBA.
[Director to Chuck during the commercial break prior to the Plum segment] "Chuck, don't say anything. Think of your happy place. I'll take you to Mickey D's after the show, my treat, all you can eat. For the love of God, don't say anything."
I wish they would just disband the league under the premise that it doesn’t make enough money to keep itself alive, and then let these never satisfied cry babies figure out what to do next on their own.
Their attitude towards this issue is indicative of the modern American woman. The false sense of entitlement coupled with unrealistic expectations. It’s a constant state of delusion😳
No eyeballs on, no money. Their job isn't to play basketball. Their job is to sell Ford trucks, Verizon Wireless, tickets, Travelers Insurance, (you get the picture).
I played hs ball for a little bit but I never really enjoyed it. And I believe la fitness has more intensity. I’d put a couple Vasa randos above your average wnba team
I'm sure that a WNBA player would scorch a playground player in a 1v1. However, absolutely no playground player would think that he deserves to get paid close to 150K a season to play.
I often hear how its unfair how the WNBA stars are treated especially when it comes to money but the funny thing is, if it actually was fair they would've had to shut shop over a decade ago. Hell, NBA players didn't make much until they started averaging around 18,000 fans a game. In the 80's the men literally had to double the average fanbase just to get their money, WNBA attendance gets worse every year despite the fact the NBA and their players have been giving them free promotion for decades.
Also dont frget that the NBA was actually DYING in the 80's they were LOSING viewership. Then along came a man by the name of Michael Jordan and all that changed. The problem with the WNBA is they don't HAVE that saving grace, their program is borderline boring. I truly believe if they simply lowered the rim that would change everything., this would increase the chances to score thus making the game more exciting to watch, but NOOOOOOOO we are being sexist when we say that that's MYSOGYNY.
@@elijahfoggy1583ah that was Magic and Birds doing. As their stars rose, so did the league. Even with lowered rims though, women's basketball is just plain sloppy. The passes are sloppy, the dribbling is sloppy, the defense is sloppy, it's all sloppy. Old NBA may have been boring but it wasn't sloppy.
@@Nothereman9999 thank you for the correction kind sir, Magic and Bird were credited with revitalizing a dying sport. You are also correct about the game being sloppy, but I feel like lowering the rims is a step in the right direction.
Its like watching someone watching a training video. Its just clumsy and not interesting, there are a ton of other sports where women generate a lot of interest just not in basketball and I doubt that will change much
I’m not a WNBA fan, but it’s been many years since I was an _NBA_ fan, either. In fact, the only basketball I watch anymore is my alma mater’s men’s team, and often just the highlights of _their_ games. I guess that’s what comes of growing old.
Bill Simmons wrote a great column about this back in like 2004 where he compared the WNBA to opening an inferior pizza place next to the best pizza place in town and then have all the chefs be women as a marketing ploy.
I don't think that the players can do anything to improve the league. They are at the height of their talent. What are they going to do? Play topless? I DON"T want to see that.
@@longshot7601didn't spike try a women lingerie football league back in the day? That wouldn't even work, and they had hot women who weren't very good.
@@gilbertoflores7397 At least Spike understood that men (and a few women) wouldn't be watching women's football for the football. It's hard to take the WNBA seriously when the talent is such a joke.
It's mind-blowing to hear the logic from this woman. If you want to make more money, you need to bring more eyes to the sport. With how big the WNBA is, it also blows my mind that not one of these geniuses can figure out a way to make this sport actually fun to watch! They need to stop pretending they are as good as NBA players, and change the entire presentation in a way that could peak anyone curiosity.
I'm a high school and college sports official. In basketball the girls side has 100s of jump balls per game and soooooo many travels. It is truly hard to stay engaged officiating women's sports
I'm near 50 yrs old so i was around when the league first began and i can say they put more effort into promotion when the league first started than they do now. The women back then weren't so entitled as the women today. They understood that to make people come and watch them, they had to make their league as popular as possible. Dawn Staley, Lisa Leslie, Shery Swoops and the like were presented as cool and hip. They had cameos in popular music videos and TV shows at the time, had cool commercials and embraced American patriotism in the Olympics. They put in the work and I'll bet the league's viewership was higher in their first few years than it's been the last 10. Today's WNBA doesn't promote itself well. In the era of social media, why aren't their players more visible with cool tik toks or Instagram pages? That's their fault. WNBA player today comes off as smug, delusiona, entitled l and unpleasant and last but not least is the impression that they're a lesbian sports league. That's just the truth. No one wants to see hard face broads running, sweating, jumping and grunting. Femininity is a factor in the coolness appeal. This league is a lost cost and it's mostly their own fault.
stop it. for 25 years they've been trying to force this garbage down our throats and nobody cares. and they've definitely been pushing it hard the last few years.
You are right. I was actually more engaged and watched WNBA when it first started. Players are likable, plays hard and organized. Then the league got political and unwatchable. These players did it to themselves. Nobody want to watch a bunch of whiny people that airball a lot.
The high school where I live can squish the wnba Champs. If you don't pull in the $, your out. Look this is business, if you can't bring the receipts, your out. Nobody likes watching almost every woman's pro sports, maybe tennis, but woman's basketball, my God it's so boring. Nobody watches, especially when they try to be like men, fighting, they are such a joke. The only problem is they think that their all that, but their not.. The NBA should cut their losses. Maybe they can be NBA cheer leaders.
The simple fact is fans pay to watch people who are far better than them at a sport they love. They pay to watch athletes do things they wish they could do on the court/field. WNBA isn’t anything I couldn’t do by the age of 12
The WNBA players should get the same revenue as the NBA players. minus 10 million a year would equal.... the players owing the league to play and not actually get paid. these women are delusional
I watched BC v Syracuse ladies basketball when I was running on the treadmill the other day. Something was off. Then I realized what it was. The TV director was not cutting to any shots of the crowd ----because there was hardly anyone there! Maybe a few hundred people and the arena was 95% empty. People don;t want to watch, not even women.
Me and a buddy of mine were hanging out at the aquatic center at the Greensboro Coliseum and the some of the players from the wnba came in and begged us to come to the game that was happening later that day and even after seeing them half naked we still declined
@@GrumpyCat-mw5xlIt's not a whole lot different than my daughter's 12 y/o league. You don't have to be a pro to master airballs, missed layups, and sloppy turnovers.
You’ve got to admire the ability of these guys to restrain themselves from laughing in her face. They know they can’t tell her the truth because that would make them meanies who hurt her feelings.
The Houston Comets won 4 chips and were one of the more popular franchises with actual marketed stars and the franchise folded. They loss money year after year and in the end nobody wanted to buy them despite a friendly 10 mil asking price.
I’ll never forget during the 2017/2018 time period I kept seeing those ads where the nba players were saying how great the women players are so I tuned in for a game and turned it off after one quarter and never watched it ever again other than the lowlights videos
I actually love the league, I have a Goddaughter that plays in the league. But, what happened a couple of weeks ago, really pissed me off. An NBA player adked one of the stars in the league, about checking out a game. She ASSUMED that he was asking on a personal level, and she told him not to bother her. She blew him off. They are the main ones that swear that the NBA players dont support them. And another comment was ON POINT. These women aren't helping themselves with in person promoting. They are blaming everyone else for their failures.
LOL. I gotta say, at this point, we need to let them get what they deserve. That's such a crazy story ngl. Imagine being in such vulnerable position as an industry and shitting on someone actively trying to boost you. Just let it go. It doesn't deserve saving.
I gave the WNBA a chance a couple of weeks ago. Then they had this long commercial promoting the lgb community. Gave y'all a chance and you blew it like bud light, target, and disney
I’m English but live in the US. To watch the Premiere League I have to watch ESPN, Peacock, NBC, Fox, USA Network etc. And I do. Millions of others do too. Why? Because it’s good!
I'm not gonna lie to y'all. I might start watching these games. After seeing some of these highlight reels, my gut has never hurt so much. Pure entertainment seriously.
They always default to claiming they aren't promoted enough or televised enough...it's literally an admission that the product doesn't sell itself and they need unfair bias promotion to get eyes on the games. Then in the same sentence claim they are equal in talent.
Women make up well over 50% of the consumer market as well as dramatically more than half of domestic spending (last number I read years ago was in the 68-74% range). This means the WNBA has a simple math issue in that not enough women are interested in the WNBA. I think Shaq had a great idea of just slightly lowering the rim. You’ll find a consistency in the most popular female sports like MMA, tennis etc in that the game feels the closest to their male counterparts. The sports that showcase the largest drop-off, such as basketball, aren’t as popular.
I don't know why lowering the rim is seen as such a slap in the face. Maybe even let them play with a smaller ball. Adding some dunks would be nothing but good for them.
@@NoName-cn9bt Yup, smaller ball already. I would go further and lower the 3 point line to highschool level. With a lower rim and closer 3 point line, it'll lead to a ton more points.
I don't think lowering the rim n junk would even help. If they can't make wide open lay ups now, how TF is lowering the rim an inch or 2 gonna help 😂 It's a skill issue, and realistically women should be in the laundry room DUNKIN MY WORK PANTS IN THE WASH
I think you make a great point the fact that giving them what they want would bankrupt the league and I think that that is actually a great Wait for the world to be done with the WNBA and for the owners to get out of their obligations. I really think you hit the nail on the head. Give these women what they’re asking for and then just let the league go bankrupt. That way the owners can save face and they don’t have to claim that they’re closing the league on purpose they can just say they have to because they run out of money And we can be finally through with this far cycle existence. I remember when the WNBA first came out and it was actually somewhat cool. I like Chamique holdsclaw back in the day. The OG WNBA stars were pretty cool characters. That don’t mean I watched their games though. At the end of the day there’s only so much time to consume sports. There is so much male sports, which is the elite pinnacle of athleticism that I want to watch and I don’t have time for female sports unless it’s the Olympics. That is just a fact for most people. And the worst thing is that women don’t watch the WNBA. Feminists who claim that there should be equal pay in this circumstance are not tuning in themselves, and that’s all that needs to be said about it.
When you play in a 15,000-seat arena in front of 1,500 fans, and no one watches you on TV, and then you ask for more $$$, you are indeed delusional. Or you have no concept of what paying your own way is and have zero concept of how business runs. Whatever, these women are out to lunch.
Kelsey Plums Mom had to lie three times about changing platforms to avoid watching her own daughters play in the WNBA. Just awful.
You win the internet for the day 😂😂
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“Ohh no baby I dont know how to work this fancy technology” she told her while watching netflix on an IPad lol
@@brandonhall4547... while piloting a space shuttle... 😂😂
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Last year the wnba lost $12,000,000 so if the wnba players want profit sharing then each player would owe the team $88,000 a year to play.
Lol, some math I didn't want to, but it is hilarious. I thought I'd be around 40,000 but that's amazing
@albundy5492 I heard someone else break it down. It's not my math. I chested lol. There are 12 teams either 12 players on each team. 144 total players. 12,000,000÷144=83,000 and changed. So I was off by 5k.
The revenue share for the NBA is 50% I believe, so it would be $41.5k.
@spurnd but the wnba does not have 50% sharing so they still have to pay $83k.
Profit sharing on losses? Lol
'The NBA is 75 years ahead of us' pretty sure when the NBA began the players had second jobs, these ladies are making six figure salaries in a league that loses money.
Is it bad that im getting more entertainment scrolling through the comments and reading and watching these highlights than actually watching the WNBA.
Me too
No it's not bad. It's hilarious. And guess what it's getting them eyeballs. So I guess it's good. 😅😂. They a joke. But a joke we all enjoy laughing at non the less.
@@dustyjeffers5716 there's a few good players doesn't help that Candace Parker just retired I like Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese coming in they're entertaining ball players to watch
@@adamvalerino6474 really!?!? Neither one of them could beat anyone on a high school JV Basketball team
@@dustyjeffers5716 you're probably right, there's still a few decent players that are entertaining to watch probably 5 or 6 and that's it.
"We should be getting a percentage of our jersey sales!"
Have you ever in your life seen someone walking around wearing a WNBA jersey?
Because I haven't.
Not once.
That's funny. You're right, I don't think I have either.
Once, the guy was homeless, filthy and inebriated, but he had a NY Liberty jersey on. I had a hard time discerning which team it was until I realized that he was wearing a WNBA jersey, and ripped sweatpants, and unmatched socks.
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They couldn’t give away Jerseys
I didn't know they even sold them
WNBA players: "We want equal revenue splits"
-"Cool, done. You now owe me $50k".
WNBA players: 😮
You can't owe on revenue sharing. Even if your revenue is 50 cents sharing that would be 25 cents. You are thinking of profits sharing which is why they aren't asking for that. They want a cut of the money coming in only and ignoring the loss (which would be greater) and letting the NBA deal with the loss. It's hilarious honestly, they will destroy their own league by being selfish (well cost the NBA a lot more money).
Bingo!!!!🎉
@@Canucks44219 The NBA owners aren't coughing up any additional money to keep the WNBA afloat.
Unless of course a 3/4ths majority decides to cave into 'shaming'.
@@Canucks44219and the wnba players receive nearly twice the revenue rate that the NBA pays.
@@patersonplankrd They will cave. Been caving for years, why stop now.
"Pay us more money!"
"No"
Problem solved...
I’m only 39 seconds in, and buddy’s “highlight” montage has me choking for air (no puns)! 😂
I was just casually watching while listening carefully to the dialogue. But my focus switched to watching once I began to smile, then chuckle, then laugh at every shot.
Based on league revenue, every player owes the league $70K
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Lol
The league generates revenue
I tried watching the WNBA once. I decided I like watching basketball instead.
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I dunno, based on those clips it looks like a comedy show. I'm having a hard time understanding how "professional" women can play that badly.
@@devianb I've seen pick-up games at the YMCA with 2000% more talent.
Ouch
The WNBA should go into respiratory healthcare. Because I’ve never seen so many air balls in my life.
I think they should add to WNBA contracts a $1,000 bonus for ever time a player dunks the basketball.
She’s 100% right. It IS hard to watch a WNBA game. It’s painful.
It is actual hard to watch this video, yes it is worst case footage, but man, in these moments it seems even a casual male player could compete there in regard of technique and athletics.
Also how do you want to get a bigger share of revenue when you make a big deficit each season? Isn't that share 0 at the end at least?
@@dr.topgunNBA funds the WNBA for free, thus WNBA is constantly in the red bcs it loses money and has no net profit.
@dr.topgun nah if they want a share of the profit they better be paying the league 😂
The wnba is practically a Non-Profit Organization right?? Lol😂
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She is right about one thing
It is hard to watch a WNBA game
So what you're saying is that the NBA should use its annual profits to pay people to attend WNBA games, or a bit less to watch on-line? Makes about the same sense.
@@michaelthibault7930he said it's hard to watch cuz it sucks.
omg...amazing lol!!!
Slickstevie, is that you?
Bill Burr summed up the WNBA up perfectly.
These clips of them playing is hilarious 😆 nothing but airballs and bricks 😂
The average WNBA salary is $147,745.00 (per website Queen Ballers Club as of 04/02/2023). That's a good paycheck for a league that perpetually operates at a loss.
It's not good. It's fucking amazing
If I were an NBA player I would want to know why my salary was going towards this league that's not working.
Don't let that get out. There are thousands of men's ball players who might be willing to transition for that kind of pay.
Man I actually work everyday and people see the work I've done i don't make that much shut up ladies or get a real job
It's a lot more than the male G-league players make
Btw, when did Plum go from a La Jolla volleyball country life to talking like she’s DJ Muggs?🥴
The WNBA loses $10 million a season the truth is that number is actually much higher, all the logistics needed to run a stadium during the games are losing millions more during each season. And also the WNBA has never been profitable since it's inception.
It's like watching middleschool kids play basketball during lunch.
Nah, dude, I was better than that in grade school.
One kid at my school had a growth spurt in middle school and he could already touch the rim. Most of these wnba players can’t even do that.
....but far less entertaining.
Worst comparison by the narrator ever. I've seen way more finished layups from any middle school game I've ever watched (or be a part of) in 1 quarter than I've ever seen in any WNBA game ever.
Nope, not even that good
That highlight where the defender steps aside and let's BG run in and blow a wide open dunk just kills me
The general impression is that the general idea is understood: throw the ball at the round thing.
I hated I missed that.
At 9:45 mark is a good spot to start. Happens at around 10:00
You gotta step aside for brinney grinder punk…
BG Big Gay Traitor
As Bill Burr has said, they just don't sell enough tickets.
Pay them more?! For what?! You need to get people to pay and see your product.
Let's just put it this way. Im a woman and Im a huge nba fan. Nothing gives me more joy in life and chills than watching my team and good basketball. But you can't pay me to watch the WNBA.
You’re part of the problem.
Instead of these spoiled brats getting down on their knees and thanking the NBA charity for funding this disaster of a league, they have the nerve to demand a raise for a failed product. The gall to demand to be paid more in a league that LOSES over $10 million annually never ceases to confound me. These ladies must all have majored in Social Justice Warriorism or Women’s Studies, because it’s clear NONE of them took any math classes. I hope the league collapses and folds so these knuckleheads have to actually make a living actually providing value to a Company. Then they’ll get a lesson in how salaries are supposed to work.
When LeBron, Steph, Draymond, and Ja all transition, play will improve in the WNBA.
@@flyoverstateresident2890"transition"
Wow! These ladies make it look so hard!
WNBA players - “Pay us more money!”
WNBA Owners- “Bring in more spectators!”
make them wear linge... nevermind that would probably scare away the spectators
@sabinoecko629 Too true, most look like skinny dudes anyway.
Play women, not imposters.
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The last time I watched the wnba is when lisa lesley, rebecca lobo, tina thomson, sheryl swoopes teresa wheatherspoon were playing. It was actually fun to watch those girls going against each other. Now days not so much.
The WNBA LOST 50 Million a Year, but give them more MONEY !!!
My mom was a good basketball player.
Set records in her high school and was offered a bunch of college scholarships.
I always used to laugh because of how much she hated watching women's basketball.
She said it was like watching paint dry.
That’s some hard cheese, but it points to the fact that watching someone play something isn’t necessarily as much fun as actually playing it. 😜
Don't worry next year there will be a Man that gets signed and the dam will bust, THEN you simply grab the giant popcorn 😂
She told you women basketball is trash and still....
@@phoradio1277 they / them will sign! nyahahaha it will become another NBA - Non Binary Association league!
My daughter played basketball. I’d take her to high school and college womens basketball. It was awesome. Great positive environment. WNBA games are full of lesbians. In the stands, on the court. Which is ok. But we’re not into that.
She mentioned/blamed the league & media because, it absolutely, positively has nothing to do with the lack of talent.
the media? *THE MEDIA* ?? The same media that shills 24/7 for the cr@ptasstic WNBA??? I see more WNBA puff pieces a month than Biden puff pieces!
And she shouldn't blame the media when the audience wants to watch other things.
I always love the clip of that chck from the yellow team flinging the ball over the backboard 😂
What gets me is they act disappointed when they miss ??!!
Listening to WNBA players speak is pure comedy.
"Our charity isn't paying us enough."
but not as funny as watching them play basketball
Am i the only one that laughs when Brittany Griner goes up to dunk with such confidence and misses
With that crazy 2 inch vertical I can't believe she can't do it XD
@@sinappanis 2 inch is probably about the size of her
vertical. yes vertical of course.
wait you know her name? Kappa
I love how we traded an arms dealer to get her back.
@@evanthesquirrel yeah, that was one of America's big mistake. 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
You could almost see them thinking out loud. “Don’t say it, don’t say it, don’t say it”
FFS. Blames "streaming platforms". Even if the WNBA wirelessly projected games directly into your skull, people would still reject it.
Already learning how to conduct a self-lobotomy... just in case
lmfao
@@darrengordon-hill😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀
Lol
😂😂 facts
The moment that women's basketball stops being subsidized is the moment that women will decide to make the adjustments necessary to make a league profitable. Their low risk low reward strategy will never achieve the results they want.
That'll be the moment it dies, just like every spring football league.
I agree with Kelsey Plumbs. They should make the WNBA more visible. We can have 1hr sessions of Shaqtin a fool everyday.
Agreed also if they can with all do respect get female who has spending to put money to it also the LGBT+ community like how they support female singers.
Nah. Because it wouldn't be funny because it's the same as watching them play normally. It's low hanging fruit. Making fun of the WNBA for playing bad would be like making fun of clowns for being like clowns.
@@user-xb9lg9ow4oman what the fawk are you talking about?
@@user-xb9lg9ow4oman what the fawk are you talking about?
2 hour daily marathons
I remember in 2022, I was on a flight with the back seat entertainment. I turned on ESPN and I think Around the Horn or Pardon the Interruption, some annoying talk show. ESPN2 had game 1 of the WNBA Finals.
They are effectively saying “we’ll be entertaining and athletic once we’re rich”
Chuck biting his lip the whole interview 😂
The network was smart enough to have Ernie there to keep Chuck in line so he wouldn't get into trouble.
His mic was probably off too.
They have more air balls than Shaq at the free throw line. 😂😂
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That was horrendous to watch, Jesus Christ.
LOL!
Lol that's cold
Shaq has the same 3point average than their best shooter. Shaq at least made one 3 pointer.
If she wanted revenue share, they loss 10 mil a year , the math says the players would owe 80k a piece
Where exactly is the WNBA supposed to get the money to pay their athletes higher wages? In every game, the stadiums are always half-empty , and anyone at home is rarely ever watching a game on TV. If you want more money, then you need more fans, ladies!
KP: We want to be treated like the NBA
Also KP: You can't compare us we're totally different
that about sims up their dopiness
Yup. That right there is typical female logic. Seriously.
Yeah on average WNBA players are 60% the size of NBA players and still play on the same court, with the same highth hoop. This really shows how little they are trying to improve the sport. They should try just try once and scale it to their size and see what happens.
@@bella42291 Wait.....If anything, the court dimensions should open up the offense because there is more space. And female players are not nearly as quick as male players. It takes longer for female players to react and get to the ball handler or shooter.
@@bella42291 BTW, women play on the same size tennis court as men. Women play on the same size volleyball court as men. Women bowl on the same lanes as men. Women compete in the same Octogon in MMA.....
I 100% agree with WNBA players should get a majority of the profit from the league.
So when are the players going start paying back the money they owe for the league’s losses?
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That's not fair
By my count, it’s approximately $83,333.33 per player that needs to give back to the owners for even having a league for them to play in and that only covers for this year and not the previous 25 years.
@@zacheryseymour7297 Holy Christ, and she literally said "We're talking about apples to seeds" the WNBA is still in its infancy compared to most leagues, when the NBA was in it's infancy the players got paid like shit, because it wasn't marketable yet, WNBA is much less marketable even compared to 50's NBA and they're talkin about similar revenue? Blows my mind how clueless they are.
@@chasejordan9295 exactly and you don’t hear the owners complaining about losing a ton of money throughout these 25 years.
I love the TNT crew. You can tell they have love and respect for each other. It’s a pleasure to watch. Also the Charles and Ernie podcast the steam room is great. I could listen to them BS all day long.
The WNBA highlights that I watched in this clip is by far more WNBA that I watched in my entire life.
Watching the WNBA is like watching 2 hrs of blooper reels. It cracks me up. My daughter's all play basketball and occasionally will watch a game. They see the air balls and missed lay ups and it always turns into a how to not doing something moment.
These highlights are always hilarious. It's like watching me play basketball, only I'm not bitching about getting paid.
I'm not a basketball fan but this is really painful to watch them all stand around while one player takes a mediocre shot.
No guarding or pressure, and they still miss.
By the way, war, war never changes
@@mercx007 To be fair, I was amazed by those specific moments, so I looked a little closer; those specific moments are from what I believe is the WNBA All-star Game or some other exhibition game. So they're half-assing it because it's an exhibition game.
The NBA guys do the same thing, more or less, in their exhibition games. They just don't miss the lay-up or dunk four times.
@@justinamerican8200 Brother, a lot of these clips look like competitive league games
Lowlights
I’m am dead 😂
If TV networks thought they could make money from televising WNBA game... wait for it... THEY WOULD!
People forget that it was not that long ago that players in MLB, The NFL and NBA had to have off seasons jobs to pay the bills. I remember when the NBA finals were taped Delayed to Midnight on CBS and their cable TV partner was the USA network. Baseball was around for 100 years before players started making real money. The WNBA needs to pay their dues and accept they will never be on par with the NBA.
Chuck looks so tense during that interview lol he was doing everything he could to hold back what he actually thought
He was trying not to get fired that day 😂😂😂
Hot Potato
[Director to Chuck during the commercial break prior to the Plum segment] "Chuck, don't say anything. Think of your happy place. I'll take you to Mickey D's after the show, my treat, all you can eat. For the love of God, don't say anything."
@@andhisband "Don't ruin your career Chuck, it's not worth it. Just smile and nod."
I wish they would just disband the league under the premise that it doesn’t make enough money to keep itself alive, and then let these never satisfied cry babies figure out what to do next on their own.
Their attitude towards this issue is indicative of the modern American woman. The false sense of entitlement coupled with unrealistic expectations. It’s a constant state of delusion😳
No eyeballs on, no money. Their job isn't to play basketball. Their job is to sell Ford trucks, Verizon Wireless, tickets, Travelers Insurance, (you get the picture).
I have never played High School Basketball but I play it as a hobby and I feel like I could make at least half of these layups😭😭
I played hs ball for a little bit but I never really enjoyed it. And I believe la fitness has more intensity. I’d put a couple Vasa randos above your average wnba team
You could
I'm short and stout guy and probably shorter than all those girls and I could make half of those layups.
I'm sure that a WNBA player would scorch a playground player in a 1v1. However, absolutely no playground player would think that he deserves to get paid close to 150K a season to play.
I often hear how its unfair how the WNBA stars are treated especially when it comes to money but the funny thing is, if it actually was fair they would've had to shut shop over a decade ago.
Hell, NBA players didn't make much until they started averaging around 18,000 fans a game. In the 80's the men literally had to double the average fanbase just to get their money, WNBA attendance gets worse every year despite the fact the NBA and their players have been giving them free promotion for decades.
Also dont frget that the NBA was actually DYING in the 80's they were LOSING viewership. Then along came a man by the name of Michael Jordan and all that changed. The problem with the WNBA is they don't HAVE that saving grace, their program is borderline boring. I truly believe if they simply lowered the rim that would change everything., this would increase the chances to score thus making the game more exciting to watch, but NOOOOOOOO we are being sexist when we say that that's MYSOGYNY.
@@elijahfoggy1583it’s not borderline boring. It’s just plain boring
@@elijahfoggy1583ah that was Magic and Birds doing. As their stars rose, so did the league.
Even with lowered rims though, women's basketball is just plain sloppy. The passes are sloppy, the dribbling is sloppy, the defense is sloppy, it's all sloppy. Old NBA may have been boring but it wasn't sloppy.
@@Nothereman9999 thank you for the correction kind sir, Magic and Bird were credited with revitalizing a dying sport. You are also correct about the game being sloppy, but I feel like lowering the rims is a step in the right direction.
Lowering the rim can’t hurt
In watching this clip of WNBA games, it reminds me of watching children between 10 to 13 year old boys just learning how to play and shoot.
i saw kelsy plum at a spurs game. she threw a tshirt like 50 yards into the stands. what an athlete.
In the wise words of a Legend
“ NBA, WNBA. One is a sport, one is a joke. I love sports, I love jokes. Room for all “
- Dwight K Schrute
Nowadays, BOTH are a joke.
Cept where laughing at them not with them
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Both are boring unskilled , most have only one thing going for them ,being tall
But who will actually PAY for a bad joke? AND, who will invest in a guaranteed money loser? Sad, as it is.
WNBA games are like watching training videos at work.
Its like watching someone watching a training video. Its just clumsy and not interesting, there are a ton of other sports where women generate a lot of interest just not in basketball and I doubt that will change much
Idk I think my training videos are more interesting than a wnba game lol
Spiral out
130 million women NOT watching their own. Question is why?
I’m not a WNBA fan, but it’s been many years since I was an _NBA_ fan, either. In fact, the only basketball I watch anymore is my alma mater’s men’s team, and often just the highlights of _their_ games. I guess that’s what comes of growing old.
Bill Simmons wrote a great column about this back in like 2004 where he compared the WNBA to opening an inferior pizza place next to the best pizza place in town and then have all the chefs be women as a marketing ploy.
I like how all of her suggestions are what OTHERS can do to improve the league but not what the PLAYERS can do to improve the league.
I don't think that the players can do anything to improve the league. They are at the height of their talent. What are they going to do? Play topless? I DON"T want to see that.
@@longshot7601didn't spike try a women lingerie football league back in the day? That wouldn't even work, and they had hot women who weren't very good.
@@gilbertoflores7397 At least Spike understood that men (and a few women) wouldn't be watching women's football for the football. It's hard to take the WNBA seriously when the talent is such a joke.
@@longshot7601 not really cause women’s college basketball outplay, out performs, and out sells them
@@terickastidbits2342 Truth be told, I find watching college games (men's or women's) more entertaining than watching pro games.
It's mind-blowing to hear the logic from this woman. If you want to make more money, you need to bring more eyes to the sport. With how big the WNBA is, it also blows my mind that not one of these geniuses can figure out a way to make this sport actually fun to watch! They need to stop pretending they are as good as NBA players, and change the entire presentation in a way that could peak anyone curiosity.
I'm a high school and college sports official. In basketball the girls side has 100s of jump balls per game and soooooo many travels. It is truly hard to stay engaged officiating women's sports
They would get 10x more fans if they ran an alternate commentary with just Charles and Shaq talkin shit the entire time
No they wouldn't. Not any scenario would result in 10x more fans lmao.
@@todd-tl9tr Yes there is, lower the rim to 6ft and force them all to take steroids.
LeFlop with a wig and big fake jugs
@@Desttro73😂😂😂😂🤣
I'd pay good money to listen to that.
I'm near 50 yrs old so i was around when the league first began and i can say they put more effort into promotion when the league first started than they do now. The women back then weren't so entitled as the women today. They understood that to make people come and watch them, they had to make their league as popular as possible. Dawn Staley, Lisa Leslie, Shery Swoops and the like were presented as cool and hip. They had cameos in popular music videos and TV shows at the time, had cool commercials and embraced American patriotism in the Olympics. They put in the work and I'll bet the league's viewership was higher in their first few years than it's been the last 10. Today's WNBA doesn't promote itself well. In the era of social media, why aren't their players more visible with cool tik toks or Instagram pages? That's their fault. WNBA player today comes off as smug, delusiona, entitled l and unpleasant and last but not least is the impression that they're a lesbian sports league. That's just the truth. No one wants to see hard face broads running, sweating, jumping and grunting. Femininity is a factor in the coolness appeal. This league is a lost cost and it's mostly their own fault.
Well said. The earlier days were stronger for the WNBA.
It still doesn’t matter if they can’t play and that’s the reason nobody watches
stop it. for 25 years they've been trying to force this garbage down our throats and nobody cares. and they've definitely been pushing it hard the last few years.
they need to add men and fire the women to make it interesting
You are right. I was actually more engaged and watched WNBA when it first started. Players are likable, plays hard and organized. Then the league got political and unwatchable. These players did it to themselves. Nobody want to watch a bunch of whiny people that airball a lot.
The high school where I live can squish the wnba Champs. If you don't pull in the $, your out. Look this is business, if you can't bring the receipts, your out. Nobody likes watching almost every woman's pro sports, maybe tennis, but woman's basketball, my God it's so boring. Nobody watches, especially when they try to be like men, fighting, they are such a joke. The only problem is they think that their all that, but their not.. The NBA should cut their losses. Maybe they can be NBA cheer leaders.
The simple fact is fans pay to watch people who are far better than them at a sport they love. They pay to watch athletes do things they wish they could do on the court/field. WNBA isn’t anything I couldn’t do by the age of 12
The WNBA players should get the same revenue as the NBA players. minus 10 million a year would equal.... the players owing the league to play and not actually get paid. these women are delusional
The NBA should close the WNBA and use the spare money to develop talent in the G League or something.
NO TO BUILD THE WALL!
Youth basketball
I'm 43 years old, had not play a hoop for over 20 years and I still think I would whoop those behinds.
I watched BC v Syracuse ladies basketball when I was running on the treadmill the other day. Something was off. Then I realized what it was. The TV director was not cutting to any shots of the crowd ----because there was hardly anyone there! Maybe a few hundred people and the arena was 95% empty. People don;t want to watch, not even women.
Lmao.. The level of an entitled ego on those girls is beyond any type of rational conversation.
@@anotherland2462 Because society placates to women.
Me and a buddy of mine were hanging out at the aquatic center at the Greensboro Coliseum and the some of the players from the wnba came in and begged us to come to the game that was happening later that day and even after seeing them half naked we still declined
The lowlight package you put together had me rollin😅 thanks for the content and keeping it real
Jokes on you, that was the highlights 🤣
@@Pystdammit Lmfaooo
And those were in the PLAYOFFS and FINALS!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Those clips look like a 6th grade boys basketball team except the 6th graders are better.
@@GrumpyCat-mw5xlIt's not a whole lot different than my daughter's 12 y/o league. You don't have to be a pro to master airballs, missed layups, and sloppy turnovers.
You’ve got to admire the ability of these guys to restrain themselves from laughing in her face. They know they can’t tell her the truth because that would make them meanies who hurt her feelings.
Okay.. Great stuff but were you doing an Owen Wilson impersonation on purpose? Because it was dang good.
The Houston Comets won 4 chips and were one of the more popular franchises with actual marketed stars and the franchise folded. They loss money year after year and in the end nobody wanted to buy them despite a friendly 10 mil asking price.
They basically wouldn’t make that 10 mil back 😭😭😭
No they'd start their debt at 10m and add a mil or 2 to it every season
Facts. They are not remembered or celebrated. Even folks that didn’t watch basketball remember the Bulls run!!
That WNBA was better to watch then the garbage they have now...
@@tatum32 The bulls run in Barcelona right?
Let's just put it this way you couldn't pay me to sit down and watch a full WNBA game.
Why not? It's comedy for the whole family!
You could for me, it would just be extremely expensive.
That’s the thing. WNBA players should pay fans to watch. 1 million each game
Oh you could pay me to physically be there.. but I'm gonna have my Switch or Steam Deck with me so I get to actually do something
I’ll never forget during the 2017/2018 time period I kept seeing those ads where the nba players were saying how great the women players are so I tuned in for a game and turned it off after one quarter and never watched it ever again other than the lowlights videos
I actually love the league, I have a Goddaughter that plays in the league. But, what happened a couple of weeks ago, really pissed me off. An NBA player adked one of the stars in the league, about checking out a game. She ASSUMED that he was asking on a personal level, and she told him not to bother her. She blew him off. They are the main ones that swear that the NBA players dont support them. And another comment was ON POINT. These women aren't helping themselves with in person promoting. They are blaming everyone else for their failures.
Clarity would be nice.
LOL. I gotta say, at this point, we need to let them get what they deserve. That's such a crazy story ngl. Imagine being in such vulnerable position as an industry and shitting on someone actively trying to boost you. Just let it go. It doesn't deserve saving.
Its not men’s job to support the WNBA. It’s women’s job.
Well, they are women at the end of the day. They RARELY tale responsibility for their own lives.
It's a garbage product, no amount of promotion will help. It's the hard truth!
I gave the WNBA a chance a couple of weeks ago. Then they had this long commercial promoting the lgb community. Gave y'all a chance and you blew it like bud light, target, and disney
To be fair pretty much every player is lesbian, so they did what they knew best
I’m English but live in the US. To watch the Premiere League I have to watch ESPN, Peacock, NBC, Fox, USA Network etc. And I do. Millions of others do too. Why? Because it’s good!
Why no one ever has the balls to call them out is crazy
I'm not gonna lie to y'all. I might start watching these games. After seeing some of these highlight reels, my gut has never hurt so much. Pure entertainment seriously.
😂😂😂 true
Maybe if they were naked I'd watch the last 5 minutes?
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Watch it but mute the TV/Strem sound of the game and then play an endless loop of the Benny Hill theme and you'll laugh even harder.
😂😂😂😂so true
People in the sports media and people like Charles Barkley need to start telling them the truth
Charles will get cancelled for telling the truth especially since he became the + in the lgbtqia+
Kelsey Plum sounds like Calvin the Plumber. Jeezus, that is a deep voice.
They always default to claiming they aren't promoted enough or televised enough...it's literally an admission that the product doesn't sell itself and they need unfair bias promotion to get eyes on the games. Then in the same sentence claim they are equal in talent.
Women make up well over 50% of the consumer market as well as dramatically more than half of domestic spending (last number I read years ago was in the 68-74% range).
This means the WNBA has a simple math issue in that not enough women are interested in the WNBA.
I think Shaq had a great idea of just slightly lowering the rim. You’ll find a consistency in the most popular female sports like MMA, tennis etc in that the game feels the closest to their male counterparts. The sports that showcase the largest drop-off, such as basketball, aren’t as popular.
What it really is ~ many of them are lesbians and date each other. You can’t dunk on your ex girlfriend!
I don't know why lowering the rim is seen as such a slap in the face. Maybe even let them play with a smaller ball. Adding some dunks would be nothing but good for them.
@@seanwilliams7655They have a smaller ball right now.
@@NoName-cn9bt Yup, smaller ball already.
I would go further and lower the 3 point line to highschool level.
With a lower rim and closer 3 point line, it'll lead to a ton more points.
I don't think lowering the rim n junk would even help. If they can't make wide open lay ups now, how TF is lowering the rim an inch or 2 gonna help 😂 It's a skill issue, and realistically women should be in the laundry room DUNKIN MY WORK PANTS IN THE WASH
I think you make a great point the fact that giving them what they want would bankrupt the league and I think that that is actually a great Wait for the world to be done with the WNBA and for the owners to get out of their obligations.
I really think you hit the nail on the head. Give these women what they’re asking for and then just let the league go bankrupt. That way the owners can save face and they don’t have to claim that they’re closing the league on purpose they can just say they have to because they run out of money And we can be finally through with this far cycle existence. I remember when the WNBA first came out and it was actually somewhat cool. I like Chamique holdsclaw back in the day. The OG WNBA stars were pretty cool characters.
That don’t mean I watched their games though. At the end of the day there’s only so much time to consume sports. There is so much male sports, which is the elite pinnacle of athleticism that I want to watch and I don’t have time for female sports unless it’s the Olympics.
That is just a fact for most people. And the worst thing is that women don’t watch the WNBA. Feminists who claim that there should be equal pay in this circumstance are not tuning in themselves, and that’s all that needs to be said about it.
I can’t stop laughing because this analysis is so right on 😂
The look on Charles Barkley's face is priceless. 🤣🤣 As far as basketball goes, I like Shaq and Charles Barkley - that's it.
Lol those wnba highlights had me rolling
Pride gets you thinking you are better than you are.
They play like they run out of energy. The thing is you can't pay them more if they don't generate profit.
The juxtaposition of this woman saying “We deserve more” with the constant lowlights of the WNBA is actually causing me pain from laughing so much
Bill Burr said it best about women DEMANDING equal pay, "You don't sell any f'ing tickets."
of course it's constant lowlights. It's a loop of the same plays over and over again.
Hahahahaha me toooooo 😂 the one where she flings the ball over the backboard always gets me 😂😂😂
@@ribbonsofnight lmao nice cope.
It's literally not the same plays over and over again.
@@cosmicbilly 10:00 and 0:23 are 9:50 and 0:12 are
But I will admit that many just make it feel like a short loop by looking so similar.
This is proof positive that a college degree has nothing to do with common sense and logic
They are the most indoctrinating overrated coven bullshit ever
When you play in a 15,000-seat arena in front of 1,500 fans, and no one watches you on TV, and then you ask for more $$$, you are indeed delusional. Or you have no concept of what paying your own way is and have zero concept of how business runs. Whatever, these women are out to lunch.