Gerard Whateley and David King break down the AFL Grand Final - SEN

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  • @Alfredromeothatsme
    @Alfredromeothatsme 2 роки тому +71

    As a Geelong fan I have to be honest and say I lost heart after last years finals. The turnaround has been unbelievable. Kudos to all involved.

    • @cbgg1585
      @cbgg1585 2 роки тому +3

      Can’t blame you. No one would have saw this coming. Sure, Geelong can never be written off as they are proven list management pros, but to win the flag in such dominant fashion is worth commending.

    • @jasonevans4291
      @jasonevans4291 2 роки тому +3

      You should be thanking the inside man!
      Steve Hocking

    • @nathancooper1
      @nathancooper1 2 роки тому +2

      As much as I hate the Cats, I’ve got nothing but massive respect for what they have done this year. Been a privilege to watch it.

    • @Ozvideo1959
      @Ozvideo1959 2 роки тому +2

      I felt the same way at about round 6, after we lost to Hawthorn. I remember commenting at the time that our time as a top four team was over. I'm glad to say I got that wrong.

    • @mattfuller7313
      @mattfuller7313 2 роки тому +4

      Nathan, out of pure curiosity.
      Why do you hate Geelong?
      I think they are generally considered one of the best cultures in the game, a long standing club, fans that aren’t particularly rude or abusive (I don’t think).
      I’m just curious, maybe it was a throw away line from you. Maybe not.

  • @godamid4889
    @godamid4889 2 роки тому +19

    Professional club. They play the game the way it should be played.
    So happy for the entire community, coaches and players.

  • @leighmurrell5494
    @leighmurrell5494 2 роки тому +24

    They had a "Team" this year as opposed to just a bunch of good players. Very impressive all around!

  • @TheGezzagirl55
    @TheGezzagirl55 2 роки тому +22

    I loved the fact of how cleanly played the game was. No hugely noticeable breaches and no major injuries is a plus.

    • @paulkyriakopoulos3444
      @paulkyriakopoulos3444 2 роки тому +1

      A breezy win and a bruise free prem win. A swans choke of all time.

    • @godamid4889
      @godamid4889 2 роки тому +1

      @@paulkyriakopoulos3444 a bloke like you would have been folded like paper money. Not sure where you get off saying it was bruise free.

    • @tin-n-tan
      @tin-n-tan 2 роки тому +3

      ​@@godamid4889 I saw Geelong players smash multiple swannies. Z Guthrie was flattening dudes!

    • @godamid4889
      @godamid4889 2 роки тому +1

      @@tin-n-tan yep, lol - it was great!

  • @kalebarancelovic
    @kalebarancelovic 2 роки тому +45

    12 months is a long time. I remember when Geelong lost to Melbourne in last year's preliminary final in Perth, Chris Scott was being shown the door by the media and people were calling for a massive overhaul of their list.

    • @thexentrader897
      @thexentrader897 2 роки тому

      the media are parasites in any or every area of life ....how the masses still watch/listen to the idiot box is a fkn joke and a fkn disgrace

    • @jimhaze87
      @jimhaze87 2 роки тому +2

      GO CATS!!

    • @protoindoeuropean
      @protoindoeuropean 2 роки тому +5

      Which is precisely why change came. His system wasn’t working and got new ideas

    • @cbgg1585
      @cbgg1585 2 роки тому +2

      The irony is, Melbourne have reverted back to Geelong predictable down the line one on one footy, while Geelong took what Melbourne were successful in in 2021 and ran with it.
      Now it’s Godwin’s turn to change things up which were non existent all season!

    • @godamid4889
      @godamid4889 2 роки тому

      @@protoindoeuropean wrong, like you usually are Patrick. Thank god they weren't listening to you five years ago.

  • @cuzzywuzzyfuzzy
    @cuzzywuzzyfuzzy 2 роки тому +9

    The team overhauled it’s gameplan took a huge gamble and every change possible seemingly paid off

    • @terrythekittieful
      @terrythekittieful 2 роки тому +1

      No stuffing about this time, that boring old handball, handball, handball down back and barely getting ten metres closer to goal, that sort of thing was thrown out to be replaced by more risk, more attack, more dare, they perfected it and hardly put a foot wrong on Grand Final day. Can hardly wait for the DVD and watch all those fantastic plays.

    • @cuzzywuzzyfuzzy
      @cuzzywuzzyfuzzy 2 роки тому +1

      @@terrythekittieful teams couldn’t set up behind the ball. If it was a short kick it was a incision that hurt you through the middle of ground or an attacking move. Just as dominant contested as the best teams and a even balance of pace experience

  • @PetraKann
    @PetraKann 2 роки тому +12

    David King should be coaching. Excellent analyst

  • @joelwooden4733
    @joelwooden4733 2 роки тому +18

    Danger had an inspiring game.
    I know they love danger, however, you can't deny his potency and will to win.
    Danger cops a lot of undue hate due to his personality - you can't play the way he has over the years without some hate.

    • @joelwooden4733
      @joelwooden4733 2 роки тому +8

      He will and should go down as a legend

    • @cbgg1585
      @cbgg1585 2 роки тому +1

      People don’t hate Scott Pendlebury, people don’t hate Dustin Martin, people don’t hate Josh P Kennedy, people don’t hate Luke Shuey, people don’t hate Ollie Wines, People don’t hate Petracca, people don’t hate Lachie Neale..
      All these players are superstars who play a similar brand of footy to Dangerfield throughout their careers. Dangerfield is just plain unlikeable. The guy is a fl0g of the highest order.

    • @pauldoherty6413
      @pauldoherty6413 2 роки тому +1

      @@cbgg1585 why do you hate him then? What riles you up so much about him? I’m sure he’s dying to know!

    • @michaelsinclair8018
      @michaelsinclair8018 2 роки тому +2

      @@cbgg1585 Strange you put Dustin Martin there. Vile, "I am so shy" Dusty.

    • @glenscholes9213
      @glenscholes9213 2 роки тому

      Danger is so far up himself its not funny

  • @297fihsy
    @297fihsy 2 роки тому +7

    I agree with Kingy - why didn’t Geelong play like this earlier?! A lot of it is due to personnel, sure. But Geelong of the last 5 years were always a much scarier team when they were behind and had nothing to lose.

    • @tin-n-tan
      @tin-n-tan 2 роки тому +3

      it's all a little overblown man. we have consistently rinsed teams for 5 years. a lucky bounce a few shitty umpiring decisions and we have 2-3 flags in the cabinet. that's not ripping on any other team either, it's hard to win flags and you need everything going right.
      we went into multiple finals series previously with our best players (Stewie, Hawkins) not playing or injured (Joel, Danger, Jezza). We also didn't have Jezza who is a top 5-10 in the comp player, and some of our younger players needed to get bigger, stronger and more experienced (Guthrie, Miers, etc).
      flags are hard to win.
      (I'd also argue that this year's competition was weaker. Richmond were a good team with one of the best finals players that has ever lived. Collingwood, lol. Sydney, lol. both these teams wpuod struggle to have more than 1-2 players that would make the Cats team if you played everyone in position).

    • @newdiggszweiundsiebzig
      @newdiggszweiundsiebzig Рік тому

      This is the really frustrating element for close followers of the Cats - shouldn’t have taken so long. Anyway, I’m satisfied at least that this talented list is now a Premiership one.

    • @tin-n-tan
      @tin-n-tan Рік тому +1

      meh, we were a few shitty umpiring decisions and Dusty away from winning a couple more.

  • @itssimo0374
    @itssimo0374 2 роки тому +7

    Dangerfield should have won Norm Smith

  • @championsofitaly9321
    @championsofitaly9321 2 роки тому +2

    Kingy nailed the 3 votes, I thought Stengle was best on and has been best recruit of the year from a Hawk

  • @perrystalsisworldofbiology767
    @perrystalsisworldofbiology767 2 роки тому +4

    It was over after Hawkins kicked those first two goals by just pushing his opponents away like they were 12 year olds.

  • @joeyfotofr
    @joeyfotofr 2 роки тому +1

    I'm trying to get my head into footie and I look up to see that you're playing a 49er game in the background. I loved it... Go 9ers...jt

    • @harryhookings650
      @harryhookings650 2 роки тому

      well for starters mate, its footy and not footie :)

    • @joeyfotofr
      @joeyfotofr 2 роки тому +1

      @@harryhookings650 Thanks Harry, FOOTY, got it. Since, I'm a Californian who lives n France & am already spelling badly in several languages why not Aussie. i appreciate correction...jt

    • @lloydtownsend4316
      @lloydtownsend4316 2 роки тому

      @@joeyfotofr love to see you getting into it - it's a great sport with so much excitement. If you ever have any questions I'd be happy to help

    • @lloydtownsend4316
      @lloydtownsend4316 2 роки тому

      P.S go Packers

    • @joeyfotofr
      @joeyfotofr 2 роки тому

      @@lloydtownsend4316 Thanks man, My French plombier, (plumber), Is my friend Michael O'Leary who is from Geelong. He's as much of a Geelong fan, as I am a 49er fan, so I have a local coach.
      It amazed me how similar the business side is shared between the two sports... that & this idea the the field is different in different stadiums which changes the geometry of everything. What inspired me was the brilliant way they played togeather as a team - even knowing almost nothing of the rules that jumped off the screen right away. Loved it.

  • @greebo7857
    @greebo7857 2 роки тому +1

    Love this format, SEN, but please can you turn off the screen in the studio if you keep doing it?

  • @ptizzle9343
    @ptizzle9343 2 роки тому +3

    I reckon horse packed the white flag in his travel bag, and his gameplan was all wrong. Seeing papley start in the centre square was an early sign, an attempt to provide some spark in there. Hickey got schooled and Reid was underdone, from there it was all down hill.

    • @cmadelaide56
      @cmadelaide56 2 роки тому

      Papley has started in the centre square for almost every one of the 9 games in a row that Sydney won. There was nothing new in him starting there. JLs game plan was fine, Geelong we’re just far and away the strongest team of the year and they played a near perfect game.

  • @mrnegative48
    @mrnegative48 2 роки тому +3

    only took Scott 10 years to play a bit more attacking, was well coached this year

  • @supercoachkissofdeath9325
    @supercoachkissofdeath9325 2 роки тому +20

    No one was beating Geelong this year

    • @andrewhowden6198
      @andrewhowden6198 2 роки тому +1

      Except Sydney… back in Round 2 of course 😂, well played Geelong, Kingy’s first sentence summed it up. Neutral supporters witnessed great players who paid all their dues, like Selwood and Smith, get their lasting glory.

    • @sonjakozman1699
      @sonjakozman1699 2 роки тому +1

      @@andrewhowden6198 then Sydney lost by 80 points, how embarrassing.

    • @Tony_Pepperoni_
      @Tony_Pepperoni_ 2 роки тому +1

      except for freo at geelong's home ground lmao

  • @robbh2405
    @robbh2405 2 роки тому +2

    Geelong should've won by more as they missed quite a few shots at goal.

  • @Damaskianos_Kaliva
    @Damaskianos_Kaliva 2 роки тому +1

    Who was the one who said: ‘Chris, your game plan isn’t working’…..?

  • @waynekavanagh745
    @waynekavanagh745 2 роки тому +1

    Sydney were never going to last the game out, last week they were stuffed by three quater time.

  • @subtlefeatures1087
    @subtlefeatures1087 2 роки тому +2

    Really weird I had close as a real game breaker was watching it at the g too.
    It’s funny he says men vs boys. I said to my partner the cats lads look more physically built. More mature.

  • @lukemcnabb_1
    @lukemcnabb_1 2 роки тому +9

    Up the catters!!!!

  • @edmcboy7308
    @edmcboy7308 2 роки тому +1

    Football is very serious

  • @shramo
    @shramo 2 роки тому +1

    Kingy: "Told ya!"

  • @dubmoth76
    @dubmoth76 2 роки тому +3

    Yay!

  • @dama301
    @dama301 2 роки тому +11

    Disgraceful how Whately pushes for Night grand final - he is biased working for football media. If they move to a Night grand final AFL will not be as good and the day will no longer be special. The media push this and most fans don't want this. I mean the main reason mentioning it'll be better at night is for the musical performancs, I mean are you serious? I reckon as many people were watching the game. They just weren't each stuck at their own home

    • @paulkyriakopoulos3444
      @paulkyriakopoulos3444 2 роки тому +1

      It a night time final will eventually happen it's all got to do with the big bucks and that is root of all evil.

    • @dama301
      @dama301 2 роки тому

      @@paulkyriakopoulos3444 sadly that's completely right $$$

    • @tastyj111
      @tastyj111 2 роки тому +3

      I personally prefer nighttime games incl the grand final. I just think it looks better. I'm probly not the majority though

    • @dama301
      @dama301 2 роки тому

      @@tastyj111 fair enough, I like the nightime prelims into a day grand final.

  • @johndesign39
    @johndesign39 2 роки тому +7

    Men Vs boys

  • @paulcasey5204
    @paulcasey5204 2 роки тому

    Preferred the old camera angles, this is toooooo close............

  • @neilcampbell3212
    @neilcampbell3212 2 роки тому +4

    Sidney were finished at three quarter time against Collingwood

  • @72jaymbee
    @72jaymbee 2 роки тому +6

    Oh come on "as good as you'll see" - great season, boring GF tho amazing team the cats

    • @297fihsy
      @297fihsy 2 роки тому +1

      It was an incredibly boring match. Though I think Kingy meant “as good as you’ll see” in terms of Geelong themselves

    • @paulkyriakopoulos3444
      @paulkyriakopoulos3444 2 роки тому

      Maybe we think it's boring but in reality cats out muscled out played and have to say out coached. Frightening this cats team.

    • @godamid4889
      @godamid4889 2 роки тому

      @@297fihsy you're right. No one gives a shit about what the neutrals thought.

  • @championsofitaly9321
    @championsofitaly9321 2 роки тому +2

    Shades of Hawthorn 2014 for the Sydney Swans. Bad luck Mugasso’s 🤙🏽

  • @itssimo0374
    @itssimo0374 2 роки тому

    Unless you were a cats fan it was a bad way to end the year!

  • @petermcculloch4933
    @petermcculloch4933 2 роки тому

    As a neutral football supporter I am pleased Geelong crushed Sydney's traffic jam style game plan.

    • @cmadelaide56
      @cmadelaide56 2 роки тому

      Traffic jam? It’s not 2005 - did you watch any Sydney games this year?!

    • @petermcculloch4933
      @petermcculloch4933 2 роки тому +1

      @@cmadelaide56 Yeah, I watched a couple of games and I tired of the ump calling for a ball up after ball up after ball up.They were not so bad on the bigger grounds where they couldn't lock the game down.Even Essendon were able to beat them on the MCG but on the smaller SCG, no, I refused to watch after about mid season.To me, Sydney are a bad advertisment for the game.

    • @harryhookings650
      @harryhookings650 2 роки тому +1

      @@petermcculloch4933 and its as if the sydney fans dont know the rules the way they yell at the umpires i understand that 90% of fans are like that but from personal experiences sydney fans are some of the worst

  • @antonverzak3304
    @antonverzak3304 2 роки тому +2

    Patrick Dangerfield was best on ground. Go watch the game again. Norm Smith went to the wrong person.

  • @russellcampbell9198
    @russellcampbell9198 2 роки тому +1

    It wouldn't have worked so well four years ago because they didn't have the players either literally or in their development to be successful at it.

  • @kochstevens3210
    @kochstevens3210 2 роки тому +1

    never seems to b any descent open play on the SCG because its like a soccer ground(too short & narrow)Sydney play it well, but struggle on a proper AFL ground's like the MCG.

    • @pauldixon1766
      @pauldixon1766 2 роки тому

      Maybe check their record at mcg and marvel in last 5 years and revisit that statement?

    • @kochstevens3210
      @kochstevens3210 2 роки тому

      @@pauldixon1766 point is we should have big playing surfaces for all 36 players to display their skills, not a soccer ground where u get gang tackled by 4 or 5 players every time the ball spills free. AFL at the SCG is like watching rugby. Accor stadium would b a better long term option for the AFL as its similar to the MCG.

  • @rt-ks2bh
    @rt-ks2bh 2 роки тому +1

    People on this page are saying david king should be coaching,,but you dingbats will be that 1st to knock him when he starts losing games,,sitting on a comfy chair talking about it sounds really good doesnt it,,but in the real world coaching is bloody ruthless and bloody hard,,,when a coach is winning nobody says anything but when a coach is losing everybody puts him down real quick,,an unexperienced coach ,,,i have my doubts,,,sorry but thats the cold hard truth,,as an analyst fantastic,,game overrrr

  • @tclayden1
    @tclayden1 2 роки тому

    As a neutral fan and was a dreadful game to watch (again) turned off 10 mins into third. To many grand finals are one-sided! Congrats to the cats, well deserved flag.

  • @moregoldmoregold
    @moregoldmoregold 2 роки тому +1

    What a smacking

  • @patrickmilner4149
    @patrickmilner4149 2 роки тому +3

    What's there too breakdown? Sydney never turned up and got pummeled, end of story.

  • @stormblessed2673
    @stormblessed2673 2 роки тому

    how can Kingy say this a great watch for a neutral fan lmao? it was an absolute one sided blow out, seems the tv ratings were down too...

  • @andrewwattie7144
    @andrewwattie7144 2 роки тому

    "For a mutual fan that's as good as it gets".
    Completely disagree Kingy, as a mutual fan that was dreadful, I stopped watching at half time. The highlight of the day was Robbie Williams.
    Not to say Geelong didn't play entertaining footy, but it wasn't a contest.

  • @timhunter7441
    @timhunter7441 2 роки тому +5

    Worst grand final since Geelong pumped Port by over 100 points.

    • @sonjakozman1699
      @sonjakozman1699 2 роки тому +3

      The gws gf recently was pretty bad, another one to switch off

    • @jimhaze87
      @jimhaze87 2 роки тому +4

      Nope 2007 GF Was F*cking awesome after a 43 Year drought..
      GO CATS..

    • @godamid4889
      @godamid4889 2 роки тому

      That was a great grandfinal. Record breaking.
      No one cares what neutrals think. The day wasn't for you losers.

    • @paulfitzgerald4982
      @paulfitzgerald4982 2 роки тому +2

      Nothing could top the way the cats demolished the power in 07 - power supporters still change the subject when 07 is mentioned- lol

    • @peterfromgw4615
      @peterfromgw4615 2 роки тому +1

      @@jimhaze87 Mate, totally agree with you. I had the misfortune to sit through 5 losing Geelong GFs since 1967 prior to the 2007 win. 2007 was redemption for the club and for the supporters. The way the club carried itself this season has been uplifting. Grüße aus Australien.

  • @andrewadam4869
    @andrewadam4869 2 роки тому +3

    how was that good for a neutral fan

    • @godamid4889
      @godamid4889 2 роки тому

      Who cares? Follow a team that can make the granny next time.
      It's not about yooooooo....

    • @andrewadam4869
      @andrewadam4869 2 роки тому

      @@godamid4889 I don't care. just saying it was not a good spectacle at all. Also flagmond 2023 mate.

    • @godamid4889
      @godamid4889 2 роки тому

      @@andrewadam4869 Kingy wasnt suggesting it was good for neutrals, so that probably answers your original question.

  • @sonjakozman1699
    @sonjakozman1699 2 роки тому +13

    Collingwood was a more deserving grand final contender.

    • @jimhaze87
      @jimhaze87 2 роки тому +1

      Geelong Would've Also Fucking Smashed Collingwood 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @vivekpadmanabhan3260
      @vivekpadmanabhan3260 2 роки тому +10

      Should've won more games then. Lost 2 finals. Can't expect to be in the GF

    • @sonjakozman1699
      @sonjakozman1699 2 роки тому +2

      @@vivekpadmanabhan3260 didn't say I expected them, halfwit, just commenting that collingwood wouldn't have lost by 80 points. Pretty hard to argue that.

    • @jimhaze87
      @jimhaze87 2 роки тому +2

      @@vivekpadmanabhan3260 Spot on Mate 👍

    • @subtlefeatures1087
      @subtlefeatures1087 2 роки тому +4

      Pies would have got pumped. There’s no “more deserving” or “put up a better fight” they didn’t play because they lost. Pies supporters need to accept that. You only just beat teams in the bottom 10.

  • @debtslave9225
    @debtslave9225 2 роки тому +3

    A spectacular watch for neutral fan? A spectacularly boring game more like it. People want a contest to watch to build excitement, not a one sided bloodbath.

    • @godamid4889
      @godamid4889 2 роки тому

      Newsbreak: the granny wasn't for the neutral fans and the whingers can gagf! ☺️🖕

  • @gustaaf1892
    @gustaaf1892 2 роки тому +2

    These two are real Danger fanboys. Great player, but they are prone to give him credit more easily than other players. Shame the GF was so one-sided. I suspect even some Cats supporters would have liked more of a contest to make it a more memorable occasions.

    • @jimhaze87
      @jimhaze87 2 роки тому +11

      Bollocks..
      GF was awesome...
      We were to good..
      GO CATS

    • @Boz196
      @Boz196 2 роки тому +3

      Nah there’s nothing better than an easy grand final. If the 2010 replay was as close as the week prior I probably would’ve dropped dead.

    • @mitchking9435
      @mitchking9435 2 роки тому +3

      He was great, deserved norm just as much as smith

    • @Damaskianos_Kaliva
      @Damaskianos_Kaliva 2 роки тому +2

      A master class in the ‘Art Of War’….Putting pressure to bare…..Imposing doubt where it never existed…..Scott will lecture at Harvard like Sir Alex Ferguson…..

    • @godamid4889
      @godamid4889 2 роки тому +1

      Are you stupid? We loved it!

  • @chemistryset1
    @chemistryset1 Рік тому

    David King is insufferable; I'm not sure how anyone could pay attention to him without losing their mind

  • @timwhite8685
    @timwhite8685 2 роки тому

    PATTY

  • @akuiiratawhi8924
    @akuiiratawhi8924 2 роки тому +9

    Richmond would have taken it to the Cats

    • @James-tz7zn
      @James-tz7zn 2 роки тому +3

      haha

    • @brianjones5548
      @brianjones5548 2 роки тому +8

      Pie's I would have thought

    • @vikramparmar8093
      @vikramparmar8093 2 роки тому +7

      what year's Tigers? What a bizarre statement.

    • @eponymous7910
      @eponymous7910 2 роки тому +4

      Richmond lol, they're finished

    • @scottmcgowan4813
      @scottmcgowan4813 2 роки тому +4

      Richmond lucky to make the Finals and getting beaten by Brisbane in the elimination final....hahaha

  • @themetalpig7613
    @themetalpig7613 2 роки тому +12

    What logic is King using to say as a neutral viewer that GF was great to watch. It was a slaughterhouse that was over early and boring af! It likely would've been better for neutral fans if the Pies had made it. Sydney were atrocious.

    • @jimhaze87
      @jimhaze87 2 роки тому +2

      Pies..🤣🤣🤣

    • @TheDirge69
      @TheDirge69 2 роки тому +4

      yep, it reminded me of the tigers-giants granny

    • @peterhorrocks9969
      @peterhorrocks9969 2 роки тому +1

      Concur Pig!!!!At the end the fairytale team (Pies) needed to have contested the Granny, not for one second am I suggesting Collingwood would have won but wouldn't have lost by 81 points!!!

    • @themetalpig7613
      @themetalpig7613 2 роки тому

      @@peterhorrocks9969 yeah they had half a season of evidence that they create close games. I mean they lost to Geel by 6 I think and Syd by 1 point.

    • @godamid4889
      @godamid4889 2 роки тому

      No one gives a shit what neutrals think. Go have a whinge about the weather.