@@joeyrobertson9523 Weird that same comments have been said for at least the 2 nd half of the year about the Swans yet they still finished the home and away season on top and with the best percentage 🤷🏻♂️ I guess we will find out 👍
@@joeyrobertson9523lmao the whole team lifted in the 4th when the game was on the line. It wasn’t just the big 3. Lloyd, Campbell, Papley, Jordon, Florent, Blakey, Grundy, Logan, Amartey all made crucial plays when it mattered. All teams rely on their star players when things are going wrong. Cannot tell me Geelong don’t rely on Cameron/Danger, and Hawks don’t rely on Sicily/Newcombe to get shit done when the game isn’t on their terms
@@darrenbaker6019 Is that a serious comment hahahah did you only just start watching footy? 2012-2016 was peak free kick hawthorn era, not always by numbers but just always getting a free when they needed one. Your comment actually made me laugh
I'll give you an early GF tip, if Matt Stevic is umpiring and Swans are there then Swans lose. I'd love to see someone do a comparison of how many times the Swans have won the free kick count with Stevic umpiring
@@MegaHarley1 I was there in 2012 and it was obvious as anything how much the guy hates the Swans..... until 2016 rolled around and that was the most rigged game in History, Swans had 3 free kicks to 3 quarter time. I wish the one of these commentators had the balls to come out and call it for it was, not only does it cost the players a chance at a premiership but it costs the fans a chance of seeing them win it after being invested for years. Google Dan Hannerbery speaking about the 2016 GF
Since 2000, 22 of the 24 Premiers were top 4 in %, and 23 of 24 Premiers finished in the Top 3 at the end of the regular season. The only team that meets those historical numbers this year is Syderney
Its now past the numbers stage The numbers got them to this point and thats it now. Its down now to those that will rise to the occasion Those that luv the heat and are gonna fight and grunt it out stay calm to do what they can do to get the job done now cause they want to get the job done Its what Port has failed to do for 12 yrs. Its time for Hawks like Jack and the wizard to come out and sink the claws into these port flock thats done a runner for 12 yrs straight. Go the Hawks. Send them more messages Jack ah ah ah lol
Tiges had the surge game, just get it forward, got them 3 flags. I agree, Dangerfield, 100 kgs coming at full throttle with manic desire would have some players thinking. What a team example. Cats aren't a small physical side. Are they the best, wait and see.
Coniglio is a huge loss for the Giants. He’s an absolute gun and fully fit would have probably given the Giants the steadying they needed in the last quarter. But he shouldn’t be in the side the way he’s running around at the moment.
Statistics are a reliable science, but they cannot factor player discontent with an inept coach. When the best players are moved out of their positions and replaced by sub-standard ones--or parked on the bench--even the a star-studded team will suffer an "upset." From the first bounce, the WB appeared demoralized. Even my American wife noticed that the dogs played without motivation. The WB need a coach, not someone who wants to mother them.
We got too many injuries and Houston is suspended I hope we loose because I don't wanna be embarrassed in a prelim Hawks deserve it we don't otherwise we'd be set up for the home prelim not Geelong.. Sam Mitchell was a fkn gun player and what he's done as a coach it's good to see the club back playing end to end footy again
This Daniel Hoyne guy really has no idea what he is talking about. He changes his spiel every week based on the multiple upsets that continually prove him wrong.
@@adnumlet Port will turn up and a big danger game for Hawthorn. If the Hawkes are on song they should win comfortably........but if Port can ambush them like Geelong did , then the Hawks game might unravel.
@Rassskle Err if PORT are the ones on song then it's Hawks that will lose. Port are by far the better team. Only drama they have is inconsistency. Hence nobody trusts them. However, if they are humming they'll demolish hawks and any team as has been seen many times. Hawks definitely a solid team and good but don't state something false
@@lukepoland2645 You are obviously from SA and / or PORT are your team. Most SA's know their footy despite their RABBID bias.......you must the one who knows NOTHING about football
"Clearly the best team in the competition" they had a bottom 6 draw this season ease up. Imagine how far clear the Swans would have been if they played cellar dwellars all year. Geelong has spanked them twice this year and Swans have beaten them by 75?
Hawthorn played only one of last season’s bottom 5 twice (North Melbourne) how is that playing cellar dwellers all season? They also played the premiers twice, Geelong, Melbourne and the Giants twice. Pretty disingenuous statement given they have beaten just about everyone.
@@jsequine927 Conveniently forgot about playing Tigers twice? Melbourne were a shambles this year, North twice... just playing North and Tigers twice banks you an extra 2 wins.
@@craighall689 That's my point mate, if they played a top 6 draw they wouldn't be sniffing finals so it's a bit richj calling them the best team in the comp when they were gifted a couple of easy wins
Rioli Willie is a better player than boby hill, come cane where’s your love for port power,? Avans and Mac good players, port can go all the way bro, let’s go power 💪🏆🏆
I'm a Sydney supporter and I think the Hawks will blitz this finals. I just can't see where we outplay the Hawks...though I'm marginally more confident with Frost and Day ruled out. Marginally.
@@maremanacharters7548 You were absolutely right. We were there last night at the game and it looked pretty clinical. Now I just hope we can execute on the day that really counts...🤞⚪🔴
Just saying. There was non of this come from behind drama when it was Collingwood the last two years. But now it's a non Vic team. Suddenly it's a problem lol.
Well, they didn’t implode, their pressure was absolutely off the charts. The Swans best (and it’s often only a quarter and a half) would have done that to just about any side. If Sydney gives Hawthorn a start like that they won’t run the Hawks down (who are very strong in the second half).
History also said that Kingsley's GWS were 23-0 when in front at 3QTR time...
Actually you are 💯 right and when I saw that stat on the coverage on channel 7 at 3 quarter time I knew the swans would win 👍
@@Robrulz666icloud Yep, it convinced me that the Swans would come from behind. OMG, stats can be hilarious.
And yet Sydney will not win the flag because they rely on 2-3 players saving them. Hawks or Geelong beat them because they play as a team.
@@joeyrobertson9523 Weird that same comments have been said for at least the 2 nd half of the year about the Swans yet they still finished the home and away season on top and with the best percentage 🤷🏻♂️ I guess we will find out 👍
@@joeyrobertson9523lmao the whole team lifted in the 4th when the game was on the line. It wasn’t just the big 3. Lloyd, Campbell, Papley, Jordon, Florent, Blakey, Grundy, Logan, Amartey all made crucial plays when it mattered.
All teams rely on their star players when things are going wrong. Cannot tell me Geelong don’t rely on Cameron/Danger, and Hawks don’t rely on Sicily/Newcombe to get shit done when the game isn’t on their terms
I was at that 2014 Prelim Hawks vs Power, as a North supporter. I was the best game of football I've even been to.
Me and my mate got members tickets only black and teal in the hawks membership area. Brilliant game should’ve won it first quarter hey
Umps tried their level best to get Port over the line.
Ahhh yes during peak Hawthorn free kick era
@@kovaci0000007provide stats champ. Look it up and you will find the opposite but don’t let the truth get in the way of your delusion
@@darrenbaker6019 Is that a serious comment hahahah did you only just start watching footy? 2012-2016 was peak free kick hawthorn era, not always by numbers but just always getting a free when they needed one. Your comment actually made me laugh
I'll give you an early GF tip, if Matt Stevic is umpiring and Swans are there then Swans lose. I'd love to see someone do a comparison of how many times the Swans have won the free kick count with Stevic umpiring
gave the swans one free kick in both the 2012 and 2016 gfs.strange he has only umpired swans games a handful of times since the 2016 gf
@@MegaHarley1 I was there in 2012 and it was obvious as anything how much the guy hates the Swans..... until 2016 rolled around and that was the most rigged game in History, Swans had 3 free kicks to 3 quarter time. I wish the one of these commentators had the balls to come out and call it for it was, not only does it cost the players a chance at a premiership but it costs the fans a chance of seeing them win it after being invested for years. Google Dan Hannerbery speaking about the 2016 GF
@kovaci0000007 GWS and Sydney were the rightful premiers of 2016. AFL/umpires screwed them over big time
All australian umpire this year 😂 he's hopeless
Well, Swans lost, but I don't think it was the umpiring that cost them the game
Since 2000, 22 of the 24 Premiers were top 4 in %, and 23 of 24 Premiers finished in the Top 3 at the end of the regular season. The only team that meets those historical numbers this year is Syderney
Its now past the numbers stage The numbers got them to this point and thats it now. Its down now to those that will rise to the occasion Those that luv the heat and are gonna fight and grunt it out stay calm to do what they can do to get the job done now cause they want to get the job done Its what Port has failed to do for 12 yrs. Its time for Hawks like Jack and the wizard to come out and sink the claws into these port flock thats done a runner for 12 yrs straight. Go the Hawks. Send them more messages Jack ah ah ah lol
The matrix is 1s & 0s, always.
I wonder who could be responsible for all these failings at Port Adelaide. It’s a mystery.
This muppet was all in on the Dogs
he is a NERD without sporting ability... NEEEEEEEEERRD
Changes every week. Ridiculous.
Not to mention Port by 3-4 goals.
He also has been on hawks since about round 10
@@mitchperkins5705 I was on the Hawks from round 1
They're really talking up Hawthorn. It would be a bit of a trajedy if Port takes them out this week, or failing that, Sydney. Watching with interest.
Didn’t last week though did he?!
Kiss of death for the Hawks. Last week the Dogs were the best team in it and flag favourites. Put your money on Port for the win.
Tiges had the surge game, just get it forward, got them 3 flags. I agree, Dangerfield, 100 kgs coming at full throttle with manic desire would have some players thinking. What a team example. Cats aren't a small physical side. Are they the best, wait and see.
Daniel “off the back of” Hoyne good stuff mate
Rozee on the half backline is fine.... One way. But is he the guy you want defending when it is coming back?
Coniglio is a huge loss for the Giants. He’s an absolute gun and fully fit would have probably given the Giants the steadying they needed in the last quarter. But he shouldn’t be in the side the way he’s running around at the moment.
Hoyne - “I’ll bAcK hIsToRy, hIsToRy sAyS’ , bloke just won’t admit that he hates the swans
Even if he does hate them, so what
Big time hater. Can't wait til we smoke 'his' Hawks next week, unless Port takes care of them first! :)
@@felixlersha Port will lose. It will be sweeter for you if the Swans do the Hawks in anyway.
@@RaviNayyar I know a few people who are not from Sydney and they want a Swans v GWS GF. Anyway, I am here for you dude. lol
@@felixlersha there are no guarantees in footy
Champion data second guessing themselves..😂😂😂
Stats can lie
Especially in finals footy
Hoyney and his doggies.....
Does he support them?
@@RobKieranz no idea, just was talking them up as his flag pick for weeks upon weeks...
@@RobKieranz No, he’s a Geelong fan. It’s obvious the bloke is obsessed with statistics, and doesn’t much watch much footy.
I can smell a straight sets exit for the pear 🍐! Carn the Hawks!
Ha ha ha let’s go port 💪🏆🏆
Hoyne is the biggest clown, it’s a disgrace that SEN gives him airtime.
Hes always wrong,
Did the stats determine that Port and Bulldogs would win last week?
Actaully hoyne said port ground ball terrible He was correct about that
@@jamesbuesnel5054but he said they’d win lol
Statistics are a reliable science, but they cannot factor player discontent with an inept coach. When the best players are moved out of their positions and replaced by sub-standard ones--or parked on the bench--even the a star-studded team will suffer an "upset." From the first bounce, the WB appeared demoralized. Even my American wife noticed that the dogs played without motivation. The WB need a coach, not someone who wants to mother them.
Swans could win the premiership and everyone will still say Hawks are the best team in it. Hawks won't get past power this week
You might be right but the Power are shot, I'm guessing GWS to play Swans in GF
We got too many injuries and Houston is suspended I hope we loose because I don't wanna be embarrassed in a prelim Hawks deserve it we don't otherwise we'd be set up for the home prelim not Geelong.. Sam Mitchell was a fkn gun player and what he's done as a coach it's good to see the club back playing end to end footy again
Are you worried.
Nah Z Duursma is going to be amazing, he’s got incredible upside.
we can learn that data means very little
This Daniel Hoyne guy really has no idea what he is talking about. He changes his spiel every week based on the multiple upsets that continually prove him wrong.
He’s like a broken clock, right every now and then but mostly useless
Stats like this are a bullshit, overrated waste of time. The best team is the one that kicks the most points on that day.
Why is Gerard Healy still on this show???
Listening to this I cant see Port getting anywhere near Hawthorn
Port may as well not turn up, same as they didn't last week. lol
@@adnumlet
Port will turn up and a big danger game for Hawthorn.
If the Hawkes are on song they should win comfortably........but if Port can ambush them like Geelong did , then the Hawks game might unravel.
@Rassskle
Err if PORT are the ones on song then it's Hawks that will lose. Port are by far the better team. Only drama they have is inconsistency. Hence nobody trusts them. However, if they are humming they'll demolish hawks and any team as has been seen many times.
Hawks definitely a solid team and good but don't state something false
@@Rassskle lol Im with Ginnivan
@@lukepoland2645
You are obviously from SA and / or PORT are your team.
Most SA's know their footy despite their RABBID bias.......you must the one who knows NOTHING about football
He can be suprised by the dogs by now, consistently inconsistent
"Clearly the best team in the competition" they had a bottom 6 draw this season ease up. Imagine how far clear the Swans would have been if they played cellar dwellars all year. Geelong has spanked them twice this year and Swans have beaten them by 75?
Hawthorn played only one of last season’s bottom 5 twice (North Melbourne) how is that playing cellar dwellers all season? They also played the premiers twice, Geelong, Melbourne and the Giants twice. Pretty disingenuous statement given they have beaten just about everyone.
@@jsequine927 Conveniently forgot about playing Tigers twice? Melbourne were a shambles this year, North twice... just playing North and Tigers twice banks you an extra 2 wins.
@@kovaci0000007 mate hawthorn finished 16 last year...of course they aren't going to play all the top team's 😂
@@craighall689 That's my point mate, if they played a top 6 draw they wouldn't be sniffing finals so it's a bit richj calling them the best team in the comp when they were gifted a couple of easy wins
@@kovaci0000007 yeah fair... I'm not thinking Hawks win it all this year...but will be bloody hard to beat next 5 year's
I dare someone to take a drink every time Hoyney says ‘ya know’
Port made the Cats look good by completely sh#tting the bed.....Never seen a side fumble so much so early.
it was about a lot more then fumbling mate
No doubt he’ll tip all the favourites again with a few caveats, just so he can get himself a get outta jail again. 😂
Rioli Willie is a better player than boby hill, come cane where’s your love for port power,? Avans and Mac good players, port can go all the way bro, let’s go power 💪🏆🏆
Talk about Brisbane for 2 min. Disgusting media bias against non-Victorian teams
Well Hawthorn only got 3 minutes and Sydney got 5. Normally I’d agree with you, but maybe today was actually about the teams with interesting numbers…
It's a Melbourne radio station, so there's that
chill out bruh. its not that deep
“I’m tipping GWS but I won’t be shocked if lions win” - expert punditry man take a side
Brisbane stink, plain and simple
As much as i want my hawks to win i think swans a coasting and will win it.
I'm a Sydney supporter and I think the Hawks will blitz this finals. I just can't see where we outplay the Hawks...though I'm marginally more confident with Frost and Day ruled out. Marginally.
@@jaredburgess8381 Swan's v hawk's MCG yeah Hawks all day but very different at the scg
@@jaredburgess8381 congrats on making the gf, told ya the swans are just coasting you have too much fire power ball handling was slick last night.
@@maremanacharters7548 You were absolutely right. We were there last night at the game and it looked pretty clinical.
Now I just hope we can execute on the day that really counts...🤞⚪🔴
This champion data guy has been almost wrong with every pick.
Just saying. There was non of this come from behind drama when it was Collingwood the last two years. But now it's a non Vic team. Suddenly it's a problem lol.
Well it obviously was for Collingwood in 2022 because they fell one short in the prelim.
100% Mate
Not al clown wear makeup and red noses
If you’re a Fantasy or SC player, you’d realise how much BS Champion Data spout. Numbers are numbers……numbers are boring.
Learning is a verb, learnings is not a word. Try saying lesson ffs
"Um, u know" .......ffs wouldn't someone notice the repetitive tic like behaviour
Jog on mate
Guess what? Sydney are in the grand final. Thank you for your thoughts but we don't need them 🦢🦢🦢🏆
Talk all the stats you want GWS in the last quarter imploded by pure pressure from the mighty SWANS ❤️🤍
Well, they didn’t implode, their pressure was absolutely off the charts. The Swans best (and it’s often only a quarter and a half) would have done that to just about any side. If Sydney gives Hawthorn a start like that they won’t run the Hawks down (who are very strong in the second half).
@@jsequine927Hawks have to get there first...and scg is a problem also