Going with the theory that Harry, Snape, and Voldermort represent the 3 Peverell Brothers, and Dumbledore represents Death itself (Harry greeted Death as an "old friend" at King's Cross, with Harry being the brother who used the cloak to hide from Death), wouldn't it make sense that Voldermort feared Dumbledore, if Voldermort feared the concept of death, and Dumbledore represented Death?
how did Molly save him? She and all of the Weasley's obviously helped him and supported him but did i miss her in particular doing something to save him?
@@t1redbenj804 "Helping and supported" him is an understatement. She took him in as a family member, and gave him just as much love as if he was a Son of hers. That's the point, Love. She didn't specifically save his "Life", but she definitely saved him by treating him as a son.
Maybe you could say Molly saved him in the most important way by producing almost everyone that shows him love at first. Which ultimately is the only thing that stops hairy from going down the dark path himself later on in life and why Dumbledore sees the Weasley family as so extremely crucial to Harry's bigger picture.
To everyone else he was Voldemort, even past teachers like Slughorn saw him as Lord Voldemort except for Dumbledore. To him he was always Tom Riddle the boy he met in the orphanage. Voldemort feared his indifference and the lack of fear he had had towards him. Voldemort lived off fear and even began to falter when Harry didn't seem to fear him as well.
@@hannahlarocco4699 fear of a name increases fear of the thing itself. Tom Riddle is a man with weaknesses and vulnerabilities. He’s not some legend cloaked in terror to Dumbledore, or Harry, or even Sirius and RAB I would argue. Those who call him by his name force him to confront his humanity and, potentially, the damage he has done to it. The way I see it, he is forced out of his denial by these brave few.
All good points but I think Voldemort fears Dumbledore because he knows Dumbledore is miles better. If you read the chapter “The Only One He Ever Feared” it becomes “PRETTY OBVIOUS” that Voldy is fighting to kill and Dumbledore is toying with him like a dad playing basketball against his 8 year old son. “‘We both know that there are other ways of destroying a man, Tom,' Dumbledore said calmly, continuing to walk towards Voldemort as though he had not a fear in the world, as though nothing had happened to interrupt his stroll up the hall. 'Merely taking your life would not satisfy me, I admit-' ‘There is nothing worse than death, Dumbledore!' snarled Voldemort. ‘You are quite wrong,' said Dumbledore, still closing in upon Voldemort and speaking as lightly as though they were discussing the matter over drinks.’” The only reason Harry was the chosen one was because Dumbledore would not be alive-due his own carelessness-to see Voldemort die.
While these are great points, Dumbledore does specify that there are powers Voldemort posseses that Dumbledore could only dream of. I think Dumbledore is slightly powerful but not by as much as you think. Speaking to snakes can be useful, flying is useful. Then again, what’s the point of flying if you can just apparate. We see a multitude of extreme and dangerous enchantments and curses Voldemort used throughout the series. Voldemort was literally the most evil wizard to walk the earth, so I think he makes a strong case for himself. I just think that Dumbledore is wiser because he dabbled in both dark and light arts. Voldy only cared for dark powers and only knew about as such. Not to mention Voldy had no ability to love. If Voldemort stayed on the light side, he probably would’ve become the most powerful wizard ever in history. At the end of the day tho this is all fiction
I don't disagree, but I think a big part you missed is that Dumbledore is at his core, a better chess player/wedding planner than Voldemort. He fears him because he is the only person who has ever really been able to consistently outsmart him and thwart his plans. He may also fear his belief in the power in love, but fear of his beliefs alone probably wouldn't keep him from attacking Harry as long as Dumbledore is around or keep him from Hogwarts. Also even though he has horcruxes, it's still a huge pain for him to come back again, so he definitely fears being bested in a duel with Dumbledore and the inconvenience that would cause him
@@metapotamus well no, the video is saying he's afraid Dumbledore is right about love, I'm saying he's (also) afraid that he can outsmart him (and also just losing another body)
Voldemorts fear of Dumbledoor reminds me of the fear a parent can instill in a child at a young age, that even when your an adult, you still see your parents as the superior force, somehow more important than everyone else, even if logically you know it isn't true, you still feel it, because at one point, they were
"The Only One He Ever Feared" is my favourite chapter title by a landslide, funnily enough my second favourite is "The Lightning-Stuck Tower", long story short, Dumbledore's got style!
My theory on why Voldemort feared Dumbledore (aside from respect as an equal) was that it stemmed from when they first met. A bullying, thieving, lying, spiteful child is told by an adult that the behavior won’t be tolerated, then said adult flicks (as far as the kid know) a twig, and sets the kids wardrobe ON FIRE, but leaving no damage. That kind of power display must’ve really left an impression, even into adulthood. Edit: which they bring up at 3:31. XD
I also think that Voldemort really don't want to risk the setback a lost duel with dumbledore would cost him. Slughorn also says that it is true the Voldemort never sought a duel with Dumbledore implying that he thinks he might loose
A loss. Or perceived loss against DB would harm Voldemort's public image. Even being minorly wounded would make others stop respecting him as all powerful. And its not just DB, Voldemort has to kill any opposing wizard as fast as possible. Because in truth, any decent wizard can wound Voldemort.
I know you guys have probably been working on this for a while, but can you please continue the What if Neville was the chosen one series? You guys took a premise that so many people including myself thought would be dull, and made it so interesting, especially with how it ended.
@@ObsessiveGeek I want to see how Voldemort’s plans change over the next seven years, how Harry’s death affects Sirius, see another core trio be established, see Neville’s beliefs that Hufflepuffs are weak and untalented change, see what events/character dynamics change as a result of Neville’s personality/demeanour, and see who Neville ends up with. I could go on for a while about the things I’d want to see if they continue from the cliff hanger they left us on
My thought on why Ole Voldy fears Dumbledore is because Voldemort showed too much of his hand (out of excitement) to Dumbledore when he was told that he was a wizard. Voldemort always wants to have the upper hand and keep others out, hence the mastery of legilimency.
@@thedragonwarrior5861 especially when Dumbledore asked Harry to keep their lessons quiet because he doesn’t want others to know how much he knows about Voldemort’s past. He bares the burden of the danger of that knowledge.
I love how these last couple theories have come about on through the gryffindor. Seeing the theory spark in the podcast and then be formulated into a full blown theory video (that is completely plausible) is so cool.
@@firestar4430 Me too. Sure they're discussing (let's face it a Children's and Young Adult's) book but their analysis is thought provoking & fun to talk about.
What I find funny about these books is that pure bloods are about three or four generations away from just not existing at all. The amount of inbreeding would lead down Marvolo's line, and there would be less and less ability to control magic. So, love would keep magic alive, and hate and xenophobia will lead to the death of magic as a whole
No, there are too many purebloods for that. There are at least the sacred 28 familys plus any other "random" pureblood marriages and that's (I think) only in Great Britain maybe Europe. There are far more purebloods if you consider the rest of the world. So in the real world you could compare purebloods to nobles and they inbread for centuries. Granted there were some genetic problems, but not to the extend of "not existing at all" and especially not in only 3-4 generations
@@temeraire8329 Don't forget that all of that also only applies to Britains wizardkind. We have no idea how many pure bloods exist in other parts of the world, but considering that Durnstrang dosen't even accept muggle-borns and is still operating, it's really plausible that there are enough pure-bloods left in the world.
@@LegioXXI @temeraire8329 to both of you, there may be enough in the world, but the ones in England are pretty England for the English mindset. If you see how they treat other wizards at the World Cup, you will see just how much they love the idea of sullying their blood even with wizards from other countries is disdained by them
And when you think about it, since Wizards and Muggles are both biologically human, either all Muggles descend from Squibs or all Wizards descend from Muggles
@@stevenburton7725 Yeah maybe, but my argument still applies if you only take english purebloods. And since it's normal to consider schools in other countries (I think Draco considered going to Durmstrag) I'm guessing in this regard being a pureblood trumps nationality. Again parallels to nobles, sure a noble from the same country might be nice, but before you have to marry a lesser noble it's better to marry someone from another country.
I'd argue that he fears Dumbledore because DD knows his past. He's spent decades murdering his way to become the most evil and feared wizard ever, crafting a legend so strong that people still fear to say his personally-chosen alias even after a decade of being "dead". And he's terrified that Dumbledore is going to replace all of that, to let it slip that the unstoppable, immortal monster is just some dude named Tom. He doesn't fear Dumbledore killing Voldemort the Wizard, he's scared of Dumbledore shattering Voldemort the Persona.
I always thought it was because of how easily Dumboedore accepted the idea of death. Its basically the antithesis of Tim's wholee deal, so i dont think he'd be able to comprehend someone like that.
I think it comes down to Riddle being the ultimate coward. He was afraid of death, he was afraid of people knowing his family history, he was afraid of his followers betraying him. He was afraid of everything he didn't control or could kill. He rarely did anything himself, unless he knew with certainty that he would be able to effortlessly handle it. His entire power base was built on the supposed belief that he was always all powerful. And Dumbledore couldn't be bullied, manipulated, or forced into submission by him and that's why Riddle feared. Dumbledore was the embodiment of the fact that not everything was in his ability to control
That and Dumbledore knew where Voldemort came from. That simple fact terries Voldemort. Dumbledore knew he was an orphan from a Muggle orphanage who was called Tom, not some ancient terror with a cool name
I think another great point is one you guys made in a previous video (maybe in an episode of Through the Griffindoor) that another reason Voldemort feared him is because if Dumbledore didn’t have restraint or morality, he would wipe the floor with Voldemort in the dark arts and become even more of a threat to his plan
The last book came out 16 and a half years ago, I’m amazed this channel has kept going for so long after the series finished. I do enjoy checking out a few of your videos every year or so though.
The hardest part for a narcissist is when they have someone who they know is smarter than them, but, because of their narcissism, they can never admit it. Dumbledore was just smarter than him, and there wasn’t anything he could do that Dumbledore didn’t see right through. When someone wishes to keep secrets, they generally fear that which can bring those things they wish to keep hidden into the light.
The theories coming out of Through the Griffin Door are AMAAAZING! I've listened to every episode and am relistening while waiting for Chamber to come out. HOGWARTS IS A DRAGON!!!
@@adarshmohapatra5058 if you don’t know how much Fred and George bet Ludo Bagmin that Kris would catch the snitch, then lose, you haven’t been hear long enough
I think it stems from your series about Dumbledore pulling the strings on Harry. Dumbledore is such an effective planner that Voldemort has to fear Dumbledore‘s plans.
Hey, Brothers! I left a review on your podcast on Spotify, but hopefully I can elaborate a bit more here on a theory I thought up a couple days ago. Listening to CoS, Dumbeldore is described as "X-raying" Harry in his office after the attack on Nick and Justin. It's also implied in SS that Dumbledore can see Harry through the invisibility cloak. Lastly, the amount of times that Dumbledores intense blue eyes are described is quite suspicious, especially considering the rarity of having rad hair and blue eyes (.17 percent of the population according to a quick search). This all leads me to my theory: Dumbeldore created the eye for Moody. Sorry if this is already established but everything I read said that the origins of Moody's eye were unmentioned. The fact that it is often described as "lightning blue" just as intense as Dumbeldores eyes are always described leads me to draw some connection. Perhaps Dumbeldore himself has one of these creations in his own eye socket? Moody's eye has very similar powers mentioned with his eye such as seeing through Harry's invisibility cloak after Crouch steals from Snape and borrows the map, seeing through structures and cabinets in Grimmauld Place (the boggart). I'd love to see a video or a mention in the podcast on your thoughts! Keep up the great content, Brothers!
It would be cool if you guys did a what if harry became an obscurus. A lot of the elements needed are already there, I could easily see a world where the dursleys more physically abused him.
Could we in the future get a video addressing the issue as to why James and/or Lily were not their own secret keepers? This seems like a huge oversight and has bugged me for a while
In my head canon, I thought it might have to do with legilemency/oclumency. I've often wondered if great wizards battled on two fronts: mind and wand. Voldemort thought his invulnerability lay in his secrets while Dumbledore is a pretty open book, so he really only stands to lose ground from a direct confrontation. For instance, I like the idea that Dumbledore only became aware of the horcruxes in the sixth book because he had fought Voldemort in person to end the fifth book perhaps even learning of the ring.
This is a great take. Being wrong feels a *lot* like a part of you died. And just imagine, being wrong on such a deep level would be quite painful. Voldemort's ideology is what compels him, so in a sense it is him. For Dumbledore to be right would be the ultimate form of death--not just physical but his entire worldview and legacy.
Honestly, the Dumbledore's Horcrux theory still holds up pretty well. The only reason it got shot down so hard is because there's supposedly some super evil and disgusting method to creating a horcrux that Dumbledore would never be willing to do, despite this never being mentioned in the books and is in fact directly contradicted by Harry being an accidental horcrux.
I think that Voldemort did not believe dumbledore until he is defeated by lily's love, then he knows for a fact that love is the most powerful magic that he can't have and dumbledore have so much of.
I believe that the chocolate frog cards are the biggest asset that Dumledore has, in regards to information gathering. They are like, mini magical portraits. When harry opened his first chocolate frog card, it just happened to be Albus. Then he was gone. Ron said, "well what do you expect, he can't hang around all day." So to me, it seems that Albus can use the chocolate frog cards as he does with the portraits of past Headmasters. Just a theory & my opinion. What do ya think about it?
Interesting theory! There is a fanfic, The Transmogrification of a Not-Yet-Lord, that offers another idea that I think you would enjoy. It challenges the initial assumptions Dumbledore and the headmistress of the orphanage make about Tom, that Tom was bullied first, and the outbursts were the result of fear and accidental magic. That rather than placing Tom with a magical family, he sent him back to a muggle orphanage, every summer, during WW2, when London was being bombed. That Tom found the chamber to try to hide at Hogwarts during the summer and Myrtle was an accident. That he fears Dumbledore because Dumbledore twisted everything he did into something evil, which became a self fulfilling prophecy.
I just watched harry Potter for the 1st time of my choice the day after Christmas and I'm watching the final movie tonight. Im definitely gonna need a UA-cam channel that still dose theories till this day🤞🏾💕
I think in the books its mentioned that Dumbledore always saw right through him. Since the start. Since he started at hogwarts, Dumbledore had eyes on him even though he was just a professor. Tom Riddle I believe confirms this in Chamber of Secrets to Harry. Now, Dumbledore was at his peak when Voldy started at hogwarts. He could read Tom's mind and knew that theres so much evil. Only mistake of dumbledore was that he believed he can give love to Tom and change his heart. During his last years he probably HAD to learn Occlumency to protect himself against Dumbledore. When he learns that he defeated Grindlewald the most powerful dark wizard of that time, he had developed actual fear of Dumbledore. He knew if he were to beat Dumbledore, it would not be direct duel. Also I believe Voldemort tried coming back to hogwarts many times during first wizarding war but failed due to sheer presence of Dumbledore. This could be the reason we hear the words utter through out the series: "Hogwarts is the safest place while Dumbledore here." or "With Dumbledore gone, no one is safe at the school" (This one was many times whenever Dumbledore decided to "go away" like in 2nd book).
I wish we could’ve seen the 1945 duel between Albus and Gellert in the Fantastic Beasts films because it’s possible that in the end, Gellert secretly surrendered or at least let his old flame defeat him, showing that Love is more powerful than Dark magic. (Near the end of the duel, they could’ve been fighting in that “magical Bubble” where no onlookers could’ve seen.) If that was true, Albus could be alluding to it, even if it wasn’t common knowledge.
That what I think happened. If it came to a choice of kill Dumbledore or surrender I think Grindelwald would have chosen surrender. It’s a shame he went so far as a dark wizard because he and Dumbledore could have probably defeated Voldemort together. Maybe that’s another reason Voldemort fears Dumbledore. Does he know Dumbledore has Grindelwald and maybe Grindelwald would have helped him if asked as a way to redeem himself?
Hey Brother! I finally saw the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes and thought it was great. I was glad to see the map although I didn’t think much of it until I saw your review. I looked it up and of course there is now an official canon map, compared to the current United States. My job for you, is to use geography and theories and stuff to find out once and for all when the Hunger Games take place. It may be tricky but the entire fandom is counting on you. And may the odds be ever in your favor
WhatIf Suggestion: What if Amos Diggory noticed Crouch, Jr's stunned body beneath the Dark Mark? - Jr goes back to Azkaban - Sr resigns in disgrace and might go to Azkaban as well - Huge red flag that something nefarious is going on (not that that guarantees the MoM will do anything) I guess Voldemort would have found some other way to get access to Harry, but with only Wormtail to rely on it would have been very difficult.
Well-reasoned! You earned this:🦄 From my Narnia fandom, I'll pull this from _Voyage of the Dawn Treader:_ Voldemort didn't read the right kind of books when he was a kid.
Also one thing I think you have to think about, when Voldemort claims that he has seen nothing to prove Dumbledore claim he is knowingly lying to him. Voldemort has seen this exact thing love stop the unblock killing curse, This prior failure combined with Dumbledore confidence is probably, and Dumbledore probably knows that which scares him even more.
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I love this so much omg😭😭idk WHY i love it so much, but i do. Maybe one of my favourite videos on this channel now. Idk if i would even call this a theory, this is supported with such concrete book evidence and its almost as if you just analysed an actual person. This probably makes no sense but i just needed to say how much i loved this video
Voldemort just bulldozes his way through issues either with his meatshield of followers, or with his magical shield of horcruxes. Whenever he tries anything else, he gets consistently defeated...
Before I get into this video, my first thought is that Dumbledore knew V's history and secrets. And of course, V knew perfectly well that D was the most powerful wizard in the world.
What always bothered me was the significance of Slughorns memory. It was a main point of book 6, and all Dumbledore wanted with it is the actual number of horcruxes. He had to know that its horcruxes before. But assuming he ended up making exactly that number is just guesswork, how would they know? Seems like way too risky to just assume that. He could have just as well made 5 or 15, for all Dumbledore knows. And the plan is ruined if they miss a single one. Am I missing sth?
He knows the fortitude of Tom Riddle well, he’s not the type to alter his plans. He makes a goal and sets out to achieve it. Dumbledore already strongly suspected the number he was going for, just wanted confirmation as like you say he didn’t want to miss any out. And of course he already knows it’s one more than Voldemort intended to create too. Harry is the best person to go after the others as he’s in a position to know when Voldemort begins thinking about the location of any others once he’s aware they’re in danger so even if they were extras that were created Harry would have discovered them through Voldemort himself.
I think it's actually pretty clever. Voldemort for all of his faults has absolute faith in the power of magic and Dumbledore knows that. 7 is said to be the most magical number of all so it makes perfect sense to consider that's what he would end up going for.
I fully agree, though, on a side note, I also believe that Dumbledor setting Tom's wardrobe on fire is the moment that truly cemented Tom's pursuit of power.
You forgot the part where Voldy starts looking for the Elder wand, tracks down Grindelwald, only to discover that Dumbledore had defeated him and likely taken it.
I have an idea for a new what if. What if Draco never finished making the vanishing cabinet. We know that Dumbledore was lured to the astronomy tower by a death eater who got in via the cabinet, and I have a feeling Draco wouldn't have had the confidence to confront Dumbledore without the death eaters in the castle. Which could lead to multiple different changes in the story.
One thing i would add to your idea, is Ego. Voldy needs/obsessed with appearing to be the strongest and most feared. Example, in DH when all the death eaters flee once harry shows he still alive. Voldemorts persona of being this super power wizard is now thrown into question and his rule of fear means nothing when he cant even kill a child
I think dueling is the least of Dumbledore's threat. He is a better strategist, hides his intentions well, has impeccable timing, has always been able to stay a step ahead of Tom's plans and unravel them. He cannot be bribed, tempted with power, controlled or intimidated. Dubledore is an ineffable being in his mind, making him fear the unknown, just like he fears death.
I always got the impression it wasn't that he feared Dumbledore, but more feared being vulnerable, and Dumbledore was always able to see through his charming and charismatic personality. Dumbledore was able to see the real Tom Riddle.
When you think about it voldemort literally means “Flight of death” in french, “Vol de mort”, and dumbledore just casually letting himself get killed just to safe someone from the opposite team(draco, and yes ofcourse he was already going to die but i mean 1 day is 1 day alive)and to legitimate his spy’s position shows that the thing voldermort fears it most, which is death, is nothing for dumbledore, i think this is also important to note :)
7:15 - You got something mixed up here. You claim, that Dumbledore DID call Voldemort Voldemort. But its actually the other way around. He rejects calling him that. What he knows, that Voldemort didn't want him to know, is the name Deatheater for his followers.
Maybe part of the fear comes from Voldemort fearing Dumbledore's power, when he did not know what it would be like to lose his body upon being killed. Even though he knew his horcruxes would keep him alive, prior to his downfall in Godric's Hollow, he would have probably still feared the concept. And after his resurrection, he knew for sure that that was not something he'd want to experience again, possibly further cementing his fear for Dumbledore.
Harry, even though he didn't keep the elder wand, is stiill able to 'live forever' or 'conquer Death' because he has the cloak of invisibility. The only Peveral brother that successfully outsmarted Death was the one asked for the cloak by hiding from it.
I agree with everything in the video. But also. Voldemort knows that Dumbledore knows the prophecy, and he knows that Dumbledore is smart enough to ensure it comes to pass.
Why is he afraid? Well, that's simple. See, back when Tom came to apply for DADA the second time, Dumbles thought it'd be great to play "got your nose" And Moldy-Voldy took that personally...
I'd go one step further and say because Tom Riddle wasn't born out of love ( rather pseudo love from a potion) that the idea of love is a treat to his own existence. Its a power he will never possess
I don’t think Voldemort fears dumbledore himself but fears dumbledores ability to seem to know EVERYTHING from the moment they met dumbledore instantly knew Tom was a bully and stealing from the other children. Dumbledore knew Tom opened the chamber and framed hagrid (he just couldn’t prove it and didn’t try because none of the other professors would have believed it as they were all fond of Tom) dumbledore always seemed 2 steps ahead of Voldemort. I think that’s what he feared
Hey there! I was wondering if I could make a suggestion. It would be amazing if you could create a video of Harry accepting Lupin's offer in the Deathly Hallows. I'm sure many fans, including myself, would love to see that iconic moment come to life. Thank you so much for considering it!
Good video, what u missed is that during Tom Riddles time at Hogwarts, other teachers always saw a talented, charismatic and intelligent student, except Dumbledore who never trusted him
Hmm.. If you pull ties to Star Wars this is also the reason why the jedi's failed. They removed themself from attachments, from feelings, from love. They needed to combine teachings from the sith and jedi, to be able to balance the use of feelings, love. To be able to be the best and strongest, but loss the devistating feeling of loss was the hurdle that they tried to remove by purging themself from love. Because they wrongly thought that all negative emotions only ever led to the dark side, and no one could ever return to the light after that. But love, and a sence of protecting the ones we love that what helped Luke defeat Vader, he used those emotions to overpower a much stronger foe, but also calmed himself before going to far. And love also brught back his father from the dark side and back into the light. Like Voldemort the Emperor did not fully understand the power of love, love for family, love for friends and love for freedom. And that was what that brought both their downfall. Great vid J 😀
Dumbledore is the only person who could ever outsmart him. Dumbledore knows things Voldemort doesn't and Voldemort knows this. He may not be able to stop him, but he can tell Harry what he needs to know to defeat him.
Ironically the fear that he’s wrong is the most human part of Voldemort I’ve met, argued, and am related to people who have the same issue who can’t even comprehend the mere concept that they could be wrong
2 minutes in, trying to avoid spoilers from the comments, I'm going to guess that the answer is how Dumbledore likely knows him best- Dumbledore was the one who picked him up from the orphanage. Dumbledore knows Tom's history, where he came from, what he was like at school, and though he knows Dumbledore doesn't know how he managed to stay alive after the night at the Potters, he knows that if ANYONE would be able to figure it out, it'd be ol' Albus. Edit: finishing the video I was kinda right. I was pretty on point with how I saw this enemy-ship.
Actually, the prophesy states that neither can live while the other survives. It's totally possible that Voldemort could have killed Harry, but that someone could have finished off his other Horcruxes and killed him in a duel. It would still fulfill the prophecy, just as if some bad dark witch or wizard were to off Harry as an Auror in the year 2033 or something, Harry's defeat of Voldemort in 1998 would STILL fulfill the prophecy. In fact, Harry intentionally told Neville about the snake Horcrux, or at least to take it out, right before he assumed he was going to die, figuring "neither would live and neither would survive.". Harry intended after his Horcrux was gone and Voldemort let his guard down enough for Neville to take out the snake Horcrux, that Voldemort would be defeated by someone at the Battle of Hogwarts. So, Voldemort could have killed Harry in year 5, but Dumbledore still found out about the Horcruxes and destroyed them, or as many as he could, telling Snape about the rest before his death from the cursed Ring, and Snape could have destroyed the Horcruxes and killed Voldemort. It's theoretically possible, however, that Dumbledore, since he knew about the Horcruxes since Harry's 2nd year, and knew they were in the plural since Harry's 4th year, that, possibly, he could have destroyed them all and defeated Voldemort in a duel, assuming he wasn't done in by the Ring by putting it on. However, now that I think of it, the hope Dumbledore inspires, his power and hardness to defeat (which could prove bad for any Death Eaters that ran into him. Other than Snape, whom Dumbledore LET kill, nobody but Draco ever got so much as one up on him (and Draco just disarmed him.) None of the Death Eaters dared go for him directly, save Draco, who was forced to. And Dumbledore also lead the Order of the Phoenix, the main enemies of the Death Eaters.
Dumbledore was a legend , vildemort was actually a powerful wizard so he had the sight to see how op Dumbledore was. average wizards don't get the full scope.
Just a small mistake: When Voldemort went for the teaching job interview, Dumbledore called him Tom as always and Voldemort said that he is known by another name nowdays and Dumbledore said he knew that, as well as the rest of his activities.
Dumbledore was never fooled by Tom Riddle. Tom was intimidated by Dumbledore before he even became voldemort. Dumbledore was never afraid of saying Voldemort's name, plus Dumbledore worked on taking voldemort down since voldemort came to power. Dumbledore knew that Hagrid was innocent but had no proof against Tom at the time. And Dumbledore knew more than voldemort.
Going with the theory that Harry, Snape, and Voldermort represent the 3 Peverell Brothers, and Dumbledore represents Death itself (Harry greeted Death as an "old friend" at King's Cross, with Harry being the brother who used the cloak to hide from Death), wouldn't it make sense that Voldermort feared Dumbledore, if Voldermort feared the concept of death, and Dumbledore represented Death?
That's the direction I thought this video was going at the start.
I thought the same too
But that isn’t a theory. It’s just symbolism.
@@Ranger1812I think the theory is that this is the intended idea people are supposed to come to.
@@humanbeing4321 I meant the original idea, of their representing those in the story.
It occurred to me that Harry was saved by three mothers: Lily, Molly, and Narcissa. Voldemort literally lost to love.
As a new mother I love the idea that “Mom Magic” is the most powerful magic there is. lol.
how did Molly save him? She and all of the Weasley's obviously helped him and supported him but did i miss her in particular doing something to save him?
Voldemort: "Or you must believe you have a weapon more powerful than mine?"
Harry: "Ur Mom"
@@t1redbenj804 "Helping and supported" him is an understatement.
She took him in as a family member, and gave him just as much love as if he was a Son of hers.
That's the point, Love.
She didn't specifically save his "Life", but she definitely saved him by treating him as a son.
Maybe you could say Molly saved him in the most important way by producing almost everyone that shows him love at first. Which ultimately is the only thing that stops hairy from going down the dark path himself later on in life and why Dumbledore sees the Weasley family as so extremely crucial to Harry's bigger picture.
Dumbledore always saw through Tom Riddle. He saw his mortality and Tom could never stand that.
Reading through the comment section made me come to a realization. Perhaps, there were multiple reasons why Tom feared Dumbledore.
I think it as much this as everything else mentioned in this video.
To everyone else he was Voldemort, even past teachers like Slughorn saw him as Lord Voldemort except for Dumbledore. To him he was always Tom Riddle the boy he met in the orphanage. Voldemort feared his indifference and the lack of fear he had had towards him. Voldemort lived off fear and even began to falter when Harry didn't seem to fear him as well.
Why?
@@hannahlarocco4699 fear of a name increases fear of the thing itself. Tom Riddle is a man with weaknesses and vulnerabilities. He’s not some legend cloaked in terror to Dumbledore, or Harry, or even Sirius and RAB I would argue. Those who call him by his name force him to confront his humanity and, potentially, the damage he has done to it. The way I see it, he is forced out of his denial by these brave few.
All good points but I think Voldemort fears Dumbledore because he knows Dumbledore is miles better. If you read the chapter “The Only One He Ever Feared” it becomes “PRETTY OBVIOUS” that Voldy is fighting to kill and Dumbledore is toying with him like a dad playing basketball against his 8 year old son.
“‘We both know that there are other ways of destroying a man, Tom,' Dumbledore said calmly, continuing to walk towards Voldemort as though he had not a fear in the world, as though nothing had happened to interrupt his stroll up the hall. 'Merely taking your life would not satisfy me, I admit-'
‘There is nothing worse than death, Dumbledore!' snarled Voldemort.
‘You are quite wrong,' said Dumbledore, still closing in upon Voldemort and speaking as lightly as though they were discussing the matter over drinks.’”
The only reason Harry was the chosen one was because Dumbledore would not be alive-due his own carelessness-to see Voldemort die.
Nice novel have you published it yet? 😂👆
@@saba4646he quoted the book kid, sorry this isn’t stuffed into a 10 second TikTok for you to scarf down.
The reason voldie fears Dumbledore is that when he was younger he lost a very intense game of "Got Your Nose" to Dumbledore. 😂
@@RichardYauman ohhhhhhh! So that’s why he looks like that! 😂😂😂😂
While these are great points, Dumbledore does specify that there are powers Voldemort posseses that Dumbledore could only dream of. I think Dumbledore is slightly powerful but not by as much as you think. Speaking to snakes can be useful, flying is useful. Then again, what’s the point of flying if you can just apparate. We see a multitude of extreme and dangerous enchantments and curses Voldemort used throughout the series. Voldemort was literally the most evil wizard to walk the earth, so I think he makes a strong case for himself. I just think that Dumbledore is wiser because he dabbled in both dark and light arts. Voldy only cared for dark powers and only knew about as such. Not to mention Voldy had no ability to love. If Voldemort stayed on the light side, he probably would’ve become the most powerful wizard ever in history. At the end of the day tho this is all fiction
I don't disagree, but I think a big part you missed is that Dumbledore is at his core, a better chess player/wedding planner than Voldemort. He fears him because he is the only person who has ever really been able to consistently outsmart him and thwart his plans. He may also fear his belief in the power in love, but fear of his beliefs alone probably wouldn't keep him from attacking Harry as long as Dumbledore is around or keep him from Hogwarts. Also even though he has horcruxes, it's still a huge pain for him to come back again, so he definitely fears being bested in a duel with Dumbledore and the inconvenience that would cause him
wedding planner??
@@tanu1733never hire Voldemort to plan your wedding
Wedding planner 😂😂 Perfect analogy 🍻
@@IdaSantti yeah I saw how he disrupted the legendary Bill-Fleur wedding. No respect for him!
@@metapotamus well no, the video is saying he's afraid Dumbledore is right about love, I'm saying he's (also) afraid that he can outsmart him (and also just losing another body)
Voldemorts fear of Dumbledoor reminds me of the fear a parent can instill in a child at a young age, that even when your an adult, you still see your parents as the superior force, somehow more important than everyone else, even if logically you know it isn't true, you still feel it, because at one point, they were
"The Only One He Ever Feared" is my favourite chapter title by a landslide, funnily enough my second favourite is "The Lightning-Stuck Tower", long story short, Dumbledore's got style!
It’s honestly one of the best and most badass personal titles and chapter titles ever.
Even Kingsley said so
It's quite close to "The only thing they fear is you" from Doom Eternal
Not in the books he didn't.
@@jackpfefferkorn3734 that actually fits pretty well. Especially since the death eaters are *terrified* of him.
My theory on why Voldemort feared Dumbledore (aside from respect as an equal) was that it stemmed from when they first met. A bullying, thieving, lying, spiteful child is told by an adult that the behavior won’t be tolerated, then said adult flicks (as far as the kid know) a twig, and sets the kids wardrobe ON FIRE, but leaving no damage. That kind of power display must’ve really left an impression, even into adulthood.
Edit: which they bring up at 3:31. XD
I also think that Voldemort really don't want to risk the setback a lost duel with dumbledore would cost him. Slughorn also says that it is true the Voldemort never sought a duel with Dumbledore implying that he thinks he might loose
A loss. Or perceived loss against DB would harm Voldemort's public image. Even being minorly wounded would make others stop respecting him as all powerful. And its not just DB, Voldemort has to kill any opposing wizard as fast as possible. Because in truth, any decent wizard can wound Voldemort.
I know you guys have probably been working on this for a while, but can you please continue the What if Neville was the chosen one series? You guys took a premise that so many people including myself thought would be dull, and made it so interesting, especially with how it ended.
I'm pretty sure they did finish it.
You said yourself it ended…so what more do you want to see??
@@ObsessiveGeek I want to see how Voldemort’s plans change over the next seven years, how Harry’s death affects Sirius, see another core trio be established, see Neville’s beliefs that Hufflepuffs are weak and untalented change, see what events/character dynamics change as a result of Neville’s personality/demeanour, and see who Neville ends up with.
I could go on for a while about the things I’d want to see if they continue from the cliff hanger they left us on
@@paulzan2246 It wasn’t a cliffhanger dude, it was just the end of the series letting you imagine the rest for yourself.
It’s done!
My thought on why Ole Voldy fears Dumbledore is because Voldemort showed too much of his hand (out of excitement) to Dumbledore when he was told that he was a wizard. Voldemort always wants to have the upper hand and keep others out, hence the mastery of legilimency.
Makes sense. Dumbledore knows more about him than anyone else
@@thedragonwarrior5861 especially when Dumbledore asked Harry to keep their lessons quiet because he doesn’t want others to know how much he knows about Voldemort’s past. He bares the burden of the danger of that knowledge.
Yes, thought that too. Like little Tom was like blah with excitement.. but immediately after that is don't ask, don't tell, don't show emotion.....
I love how these last couple theories have come about on through the gryffindor. Seeing the theory spark in the podcast and then be formulated into a full blown theory video (that is completely plausible) is so cool.
They've monetized their brainstorming sessions, and I'm all here for it
@@firestar4430 Me too. Sure they're discussing (let's face it a Children's and Young Adult's) book but their analysis is thought provoking & fun to talk about.
What I find funny about these books is that pure bloods are about three or four generations away from just not existing at all. The amount of inbreeding would lead down Marvolo's line, and there would be less and less ability to control magic. So, love would keep magic alive, and hate and xenophobia will lead to the death of magic as a whole
No, there are too many purebloods for that. There are at least the sacred 28 familys plus any other "random" pureblood marriages and that's (I think) only in Great Britain maybe Europe. There are far more purebloods if you consider the rest of the world.
So in the real world you could compare purebloods to nobles and they inbread for centuries. Granted there were some genetic problems, but not to the extend of "not existing at all" and especially not in only 3-4 generations
@@temeraire8329 Don't forget that all of that also only applies to Britains wizardkind. We have no idea how many pure bloods exist in other parts of the world, but considering that Durnstrang dosen't even accept muggle-borns and is still operating, it's really plausible that there are enough pure-bloods left in the world.
@@LegioXXI @temeraire8329 to both of you, there may be enough in the world, but the ones in England are pretty England for the English mindset. If you see how they treat other wizards at the World Cup, you will see just how much they love the idea of sullying their blood even with wizards from other countries is disdained by them
And when you think about it, since Wizards and Muggles are both biologically human, either all Muggles descend from Squibs or all Wizards descend from Muggles
@@stevenburton7725 Yeah maybe, but my argument still applies if you only take english purebloods. And since it's normal to consider schools in other countries (I think Draco considered going to Durmstrag) I'm guessing in this regard being a pureblood trumps nationality. Again parallels to nobles, sure a noble from the same country might be nice, but before you have to marry a lesser noble it's better to marry someone from another country.
I'd argue that he fears Dumbledore because DD knows his past. He's spent decades murdering his way to become the most evil and feared wizard ever, crafting a legend so strong that people still fear to say his personally-chosen alias even after a decade of being "dead". And he's terrified that Dumbledore is going to replace all of that, to let it slip that the unstoppable, immortal monster is just some dude named Tom. He doesn't fear Dumbledore killing Voldemort the Wizard, he's scared of Dumbledore shattering Voldemort the Persona.
I always thought it was because of how easily Dumboedore accepted the idea of death. Its basically the antithesis of Tim's wholee deal, so i dont think he'd be able to comprehend someone like that.
Imagine how voldy would seethe if you called him Tim 😂😂😂😂
@@knutolavbjrgaas1069 yeah, that's the point.
Because Dumbledore's got style.
Best line of the series
I think it comes down to Riddle being the ultimate coward. He was afraid of death, he was afraid of people knowing his family history, he was afraid of his followers betraying him. He was afraid of everything he didn't control or could kill. He rarely did anything himself, unless he knew with certainty that he would be able to effortlessly handle it. His entire power base was built on the supposed belief that he was always all powerful. And Dumbledore couldn't be bullied, manipulated, or forced into submission by him and that's why Riddle feared. Dumbledore was the embodiment of the fact that not everything was in his ability to control
That and Dumbledore knew where Voldemort came from. That simple fact terries Voldemort. Dumbledore knew he was an orphan from a Muggle orphanage who was called Tom, not some ancient terror with a cool name
Thank you so much for including the clip of Voldy's laugh at every opportunity. It makes me laugh every. single. time. 😂
Still haven't seen the clip of Voldie laughing too many times. All these years later, it still makes me chuckle when it appears in a video.
You guys missed a great opportunity to cut to Dumbledore giving his full name in the courtroom
Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore
I think another great point is one you guys made in a previous video (maybe in an episode of Through the Griffindoor) that another reason Voldemort feared him is because if Dumbledore didn’t have restraint or morality, he would wipe the floor with Voldemort in the dark arts and become even more of a threat to his plan
The last book came out 16 and a half years ago, I’m amazed this channel has kept going for so long after the series finished. I do enjoy checking out a few of your videos every year or so though.
I would like to see a theory about love. Questions like is love magic? And are muggles able to use that magic? Or is a wizard's love only magical?
Potions work on Muggles if that’s what you’re asking.
That’s how Tom Riddle came to be born.
Wow the end about the mind tricks that voldmort does to validate his beliefs is mind-boggling. Great video.
The hardest part for a narcissist is when they have someone who they know is smarter than them, but, because of their narcissism, they can never admit it. Dumbledore was just smarter than him, and there wasn’t anything he could do that Dumbledore didn’t see right through. When someone wishes to keep secrets, they generally fear that which can bring those things they wish to keep hidden into the light.
The theories coming out of Through the Griffin Door are AMAAAZING! I've listened to every episode and am relistening while waiting for Chamber to come out. HOGWARTS IS A DRAGON!!!
If Voldemort ever encountered a boggart, I can guarantee that it’d take the shape of the Grim Reaper.
Or his corpse? 🤔
I would bet double the Weasley-Bagmin standard and 12 philosophers stones on it
It would probably the Grim Reaper but it shape shifts into Dumbledore 😆
@@andrewlang3903 The what?
@@adarshmohapatra5058 if you don’t know how much Fred and George bet Ludo Bagmin that Kris would catch the snitch, then lose, you haven’t been hear long enough
2:15 To be fair, she does have some beliefs that are now strange in the modern age and definitely upsetting to those who were fans of hers.
I’ve watched ur Harry Potter videos for years I’m amazed you can still come up with new ideas love you guys keep up the great work ❤❤❤
I think it stems from your series about Dumbledore pulling the strings on Harry. Dumbledore is such an effective planner that Voldemort has to fear Dumbledore‘s plans.
Hey, Brothers! I left a review on your podcast on Spotify, but hopefully I can elaborate a bit more here on a theory I thought up a couple days ago.
Listening to CoS, Dumbeldore is described as "X-raying" Harry in his office after the attack on Nick and Justin. It's also implied in SS that Dumbledore can see Harry through the invisibility cloak. Lastly, the amount of times that Dumbledores intense blue eyes are described is quite suspicious, especially considering the rarity of having rad hair and blue eyes (.17 percent of the population according to a quick search). This all leads me to my theory:
Dumbeldore created the eye for Moody.
Sorry if this is already established but everything I read said that the origins of Moody's eye were unmentioned. The fact that it is often described as "lightning blue" just as intense as Dumbeldores eyes are always described leads me to draw some connection. Perhaps Dumbeldore himself has one of these creations in his own eye socket? Moody's eye has very similar powers mentioned with his eye such as seeing through Harry's invisibility cloak after Crouch steals from Snape and borrows the map, seeing through structures and cabinets in Grimmauld Place (the boggart).
I'd love to see a video or a mention in the podcast on your thoughts! Keep up the great content, Brothers!
Cool theory! I think Dumbledore “X-raying” Harry was him sneakily using Legilimency on Harry.
Hi guys, a huge fan in here! Your HP theorys never fail to blow my mind and certainly expand my knowledge of this beautiful universe! Keep it up!
I Agee a month late😂😂😂
It would be cool if you guys did a what if harry became an obscurus. A lot of the elements needed are already there, I could easily see a world where the dursleys more physically abused him.
this is my second favourite supercarlinbrothers video after does Dumbledore really like Snape its so good keep up the good work
"....and THAT scares the pants off him."
Lol. Classic
I swear I saw this brought up as an idea in the discord like last week and BAM! Now it's a video! I love J and Ben and their care for us fans!
Could we in the future get a video addressing the issue as to why James and/or Lily were not their own secret keepers? This seems like a huge oversight and has bugged me for a while
"...ironically ends up the least alive person alive - if that makes sense". It absolutely does. Genius phrase!
In my head canon, I thought it might have to do with legilemency/oclumency. I've often wondered if great wizards battled on two fronts: mind and wand. Voldemort thought his invulnerability lay in his secrets while Dumbledore is a pretty open book, so he really only stands to lose ground from a direct confrontation. For instance, I like the idea that Dumbledore only became aware of the horcruxes in the sixth book because he had fought Voldemort in person to end the fifth book perhaps even learning of the ring.
This is a great take.
Being wrong feels a *lot* like a part of you died. And just imagine, being wrong on such a deep level would be quite painful. Voldemort's ideology is what compels him, so in a sense it is him. For Dumbledore to be right would be the ultimate form of death--not just physical but his entire worldview and legacy.
5:35 Given Dumbledore's interest in sweets (including muggle lemon drops) I think that he is more likely to drink cola than either coffee or gin.
Dr Pepper!!
Honestly, the Dumbledore's Horcrux theory still holds up pretty well.
The only reason it got shot down so hard is because there's supposedly some super evil and disgusting method to creating a horcrux that Dumbledore would never be willing to do, despite this never being mentioned in the books and is in fact directly contradicted by Harry being an accidental horcrux.
I think that Voldemort did not believe dumbledore until he is defeated by lily's love, then he knows for a fact that love is the most powerful magic that he can't have and dumbledore have so much of.
I believe that the chocolate frog cards are the biggest asset that Dumledore has, in regards to information gathering. They are like, mini magical portraits. When harry opened his first chocolate frog card, it just happened to be Albus. Then he was gone. Ron said, "well what do you expect, he can't hang around all day." So to me, it seems that Albus can use the chocolate frog cards as he does with the portraits of past Headmasters. Just a theory & my opinion. What do ya think about it?
I love how Through the Griffin Door has been inspiring videos lately!
Interesting theory! There is a fanfic, The Transmogrification of a Not-Yet-Lord, that offers another idea that I think you would enjoy. It challenges the initial assumptions Dumbledore and the headmistress of the orphanage make about Tom, that Tom was bullied first, and the outbursts were the result of fear and accidental magic. That rather than placing Tom with a magical family, he sent him back to a muggle orphanage, every summer, during WW2, when London was being bombed. That Tom found the chamber to try to hide at Hogwarts during the summer and Myrtle was an accident. That he fears Dumbledore because Dumbledore twisted everything he did into something evil, which became a self fulfilling prophecy.
I just watched harry Potter for the 1st time of my choice the day after Christmas and I'm watching the final movie tonight. Im definitely gonna need a UA-cam channel that still dose theories till this day🤞🏾💕
I love hearing theory ideas on the podcast and then seeing the video pop up
I think in the books its mentioned that Dumbledore always saw right through him. Since the start. Since he started at hogwarts, Dumbledore had eyes on him even though he was just a professor. Tom Riddle I believe confirms this in Chamber of Secrets to Harry. Now, Dumbledore was at his peak when Voldy started at hogwarts. He could read Tom's mind and knew that theres so much evil. Only mistake of dumbledore was that he believed he can give love to Tom and change his heart. During his last years he probably HAD to learn Occlumency to protect himself against Dumbledore. When he learns that he defeated Grindlewald the most powerful dark wizard of that time, he had developed actual fear of Dumbledore. He knew if he were to beat Dumbledore, it would not be direct duel. Also I believe Voldemort tried coming back to hogwarts many times during first wizarding war but failed due to sheer presence of Dumbledore. This could be the reason we hear the words utter through out the series: "Hogwarts is the safest place while Dumbledore here." or "With Dumbledore gone, no one is safe at the school" (This one was many times whenever Dumbledore decided to "go away" like in 2nd book).
🦄, to J and Ben,These H.P Stories are amazing! Keep it it going, so enjoying THROUGH THE GRIFFINDORE. So awesome. ❤
Finally someone else
I love how J's shirt is a play on the most famous line in The Sixth Sense ("I see dead people").
He feared Dumbledore because Dumbledore didn't fear him
I wish we could’ve seen the 1945 duel between Albus and Gellert in the Fantastic Beasts films because it’s possible that in the end, Gellert secretly surrendered or at least let his old flame defeat him, showing that Love is more powerful than Dark magic. (Near the end of the duel, they could’ve been fighting in that “magical
Bubble” where no onlookers could’ve seen.) If that was true, Albus could be alluding to it, even if it wasn’t common knowledge.
That what I think happened. If it came to a choice of kill Dumbledore or surrender I think Grindelwald would have chosen surrender. It’s a shame he went so far as a dark wizard because he and Dumbledore could have probably defeated Voldemort together. Maybe that’s another reason Voldemort fears Dumbledore. Does he know Dumbledore has Grindelwald and maybe Grindelwald would have helped him if asked as a way to redeem himself?
Hey Brother! I finally saw the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes and thought it was great. I was glad to see the map although I didn’t think much of it until I saw your review. I looked it up and of course there is now an official canon map, compared to the current United States. My job for you, is to use geography and theories and stuff to find out once and for all when the Hunger Games take place. It may be tricky but the entire fandom is counting on you. And may the odds be ever in your favor
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Nice
WhatIf Suggestion: What if Amos Diggory noticed Crouch, Jr's stunned body beneath the Dark Mark?
- Jr goes back to Azkaban
- Sr resigns in disgrace and might go to Azkaban as well
- Huge red flag that something nefarious is going on (not that that guarantees the MoM will do anything)
I guess Voldemort would have found some other way to get access to Harry, but with only Wormtail to rely on it would have been very difficult.
Well-reasoned! You earned this:🦄
From my Narnia fandom, I'll pull this from _Voyage of the Dawn Treader:_ Voldemort didn't read the right kind of books when he was a kid.
Also one thing I think you have to think about, when Voldemort claims that he has seen nothing to prove Dumbledore claim he is knowingly lying to him. Voldemort has seen this exact thing love stop the unblock killing curse, This prior failure combined with Dumbledore confidence is probably, and Dumbledore probably knows that which scares him even more.
I like your theory more than mine.
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I love this so much omg😭😭idk WHY i love it so much, but i do. Maybe one of my favourite videos on this channel now. Idk if i would even call this a theory, this is supported with such concrete book evidence and its almost as if you just analysed an actual person. This probably makes no sense but i just needed to say how much i loved this video
You and Ben NEED to write a Founders series! Pleeeease? I think you're the only two people in the world who would do it right. ❤
Voldemort just bulldozes his way through issues either with his meatshield of followers, or with his magical shield of horcruxes. Whenever he tries anything else, he gets consistently defeated...
Side note, but ive always loved how Albus, Grindelwald and at the end Harry call Voldemort "Tom".
Before I get into this video, my first thought is that Dumbledore knew V's history and secrets. And of course, V knew perfectly well that D was the most powerful wizard in the world.
What always bothered me was the significance of Slughorns memory. It was a main point of book 6, and all Dumbledore wanted with it is the actual number of horcruxes. He had to know that its horcruxes before. But assuming he ended up making exactly that number is just guesswork, how would they know? Seems like way too risky to just assume that. He could have just as well made 5 or 15, for all Dumbledore knows. And the plan is ruined if they miss a single one. Am I missing sth?
He knows the fortitude of Tom Riddle well, he’s not the type to alter his plans.
He makes a goal and sets out to achieve it.
Dumbledore already strongly suspected the number he was going for, just wanted confirmation as like you say he didn’t want to miss any out.
And of course he already knows it’s one more than Voldemort intended to create too.
Harry is the best person to go after the others as he’s in a position to know when Voldemort begins thinking about the location of any others once he’s aware they’re in danger so even if they were extras that were created Harry would have discovered them through Voldemort himself.
I think it's actually pretty clever. Voldemort for all of his faults has absolute faith in the power of magic and Dumbledore knows that. 7 is said to be the most magical number of all so it makes perfect sense to consider that's what he would end up going for.
@@TheKabuto90 It may make sense, but there is no way to know for sure. It is still complete guesswork.
I fully agree, though, on a side note, I also believe that Dumbledor setting Tom's wardrobe on fire is the moment that truly cemented Tom's pursuit of power.
You forgot the part where Voldy starts looking for the Elder wand, tracks down Grindelwald, only to discover that Dumbledore had defeated him and likely taken it.
I have an idea for a new what if. What if Draco never finished making the vanishing cabinet. We know that Dumbledore was lured to the astronomy tower by a death eater who got in via the cabinet, and I have a feeling Draco wouldn't have had the confidence to confront Dumbledore without the death eaters in the castle. Which could lead to multiple different changes in the story.
One thing i would add to your idea, is Ego. Voldy needs/obsessed with appearing to be the strongest and most feared. Example, in DH when all the death eaters flee once harry shows he still alive. Voldemorts persona of being this super power wizard is now thrown into question and his rule of fear means nothing when he cant even kill a child
I think dueling is the least of Dumbledore's threat. He is a better strategist, hides his intentions well, has impeccable timing, has always been able to stay a step ahead of Tom's plans and unravel them. He cannot be bribed, tempted with power, controlled or intimidated. Dubledore is an ineffable being in his mind, making him fear the unknown, just like he fears death.
I always got the impression it wasn't that he feared Dumbledore, but more feared being vulnerable, and Dumbledore was always able to see through his charming and charismatic personality. Dumbledore was able to see the real Tom Riddle.
When you think about it voldemort literally means “Flight of death” in french, “Vol de mort”, and dumbledore just casually letting himself get killed just to safe someone from the opposite team(draco, and yes ofcourse he was already going to die but i mean 1 day is 1 day alive)and to legitimate his spy’s position shows that the thing voldermort fears it most, which is death, is nothing for dumbledore, i think this is also important to note :)
7:15 - You got something mixed up here.
You claim, that Dumbledore DID call Voldemort Voldemort.
But its actually the other way around. He rejects calling him that.
What he knows, that Voldemort didn't want him to know, is the name Deatheater for his followers.
Maybe part of the fear comes from Voldemort fearing Dumbledore's power, when he did not know what it would be like to lose his body upon being killed. Even though he knew his horcruxes would keep him alive, prior to his downfall in Godric's Hollow, he would have probably still feared the concept. And after his resurrection, he knew for sure that that was not something he'd want to experience again, possibly further cementing his fear for Dumbledore.
Harry, even though he didn't keep the elder wand, is stiill able to 'live forever' or 'conquer Death' because he has the cloak of invisibility. The only Peveral brother that successfully outsmarted Death was the one asked for the cloak by hiding from it.
I agree with everything in the video. But also. Voldemort knows that Dumbledore knows the prophecy, and he knows that Dumbledore is smart enough to ensure it comes to pass.
Voldie's silly laughter never gets old
Why is he afraid?
Well, that's simple. See, back when Tom came to apply for DADA the second time, Dumbles thought it'd be great to play "got your nose"
And Moldy-Voldy took that personally...
Wow i cant believe ive been watching you guys for over 10 years.
11:53 , with the 16 inch wand I think the guy with the biggest stick is hagrid but idk
I'd go one step further and say because Tom Riddle wasn't born out of love ( rather pseudo love from a potion) that the idea of love is a treat to his own existence. Its a power he will never possess
I don’t think Voldemort fears dumbledore himself but fears dumbledores ability to seem to know EVERYTHING from the moment they met dumbledore instantly knew Tom was a bully and stealing from the other children. Dumbledore knew Tom opened the chamber and framed hagrid (he just couldn’t prove it and didn’t try because none of the other professors would have believed it as they were all fond of Tom) dumbledore always seemed 2 steps ahead of Voldemort. I think that’s what he feared
Hey there! I was wondering if I could make a suggestion. It would be amazing if you could create a video of Harry accepting Lupin's offer in the Deathly Hallows. I'm sure many fans, including myself, would love to see that iconic moment come to life. Thank you so much for considering it!
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Good video, what u missed is that during Tom Riddles time at Hogwarts, other teachers always saw a talented, charismatic and intelligent student, except Dumbledore who never trusted him
Hmm.. If you pull ties to Star Wars this is also the reason why the jedi's failed. They removed themself from attachments, from feelings, from love. They needed to combine teachings from the sith and jedi, to be able to balance the use of feelings, love. To be able to be the best and strongest, but loss the devistating feeling of loss was the hurdle that they tried to remove by purging themself from love. Because they wrongly thought that all negative emotions only ever led to the dark side, and no one could ever return to the light after that.
But love, and a sence of protecting the ones we love that what helped Luke defeat Vader, he used those emotions to overpower a much stronger foe, but also calmed himself before going to far. And love also brught back his father from the dark side and back into the light. Like Voldemort the Emperor did not fully understand the power of love, love for family, love for friends and love for freedom. And that was what that brought both their downfall.
Great vid J 😀
I just read a theory playing off of Dumbledores big theory, that says the devils snare from book 1 was meant for Neville
“Scares the pants off him” 1) does Voldemort wear pants (in either the American or British sense)
2) I don’t want that image in my head
Request: What if Draco and Harry were best friends instead of enemies? Or what if the Malfoys were poor deatheaters instead of rich.
Dumbledore is the only person who could ever outsmart him. Dumbledore knows things Voldemort doesn't and Voldemort knows this. He may not be able to stop him, but he can tell Harry what he needs to know to defeat him.
In Sorcerer’s Stone would Voldemort appear on the map when he’s on Quirrell’s head? If he does, would he show up as Tom or Voldemort?
11:46 yeah Bellatrix agrees with that one
Ironically the fear that he’s wrong is the most human part of Voldemort I’ve met, argued, and am related to people who have the same issue who can’t even comprehend the mere concept that they could be wrong
I always figured Dumbledore was the only one Voldemort feared (at least until Harry) because Dumbledore was the only one who never feared Voldemort.
2 minutes in, trying to avoid spoilers from the comments, I'm going to guess that the answer is how Dumbledore likely knows him best- Dumbledore was the one who picked him up from the orphanage. Dumbledore knows Tom's history, where he came from, what he was like at school, and though he knows Dumbledore doesn't know how he managed to stay alive after the night at the Potters, he knows that if ANYONE would be able to figure it out, it'd be ol' Albus.
Edit: finishing the video I was kinda right. I was pretty on point with how I saw this enemy-ship.
7:05 that's not correct. It's the other way round: Tom insists on being called vildemort, which dumbledores denies him.
Actually, the prophesy states that neither can live while the other survives. It's totally possible that Voldemort could have killed Harry, but that someone could have finished off his other Horcruxes and killed him in a duel. It would still fulfill the prophecy, just as if some bad dark witch or wizard were to off Harry as an Auror in the year 2033 or something, Harry's defeat of Voldemort in 1998 would STILL fulfill the prophecy. In fact, Harry intentionally told Neville about the snake Horcrux, or at least to take it out, right before he assumed he was going to die, figuring "neither would live and neither would survive.". Harry intended after his Horcrux was gone and Voldemort let his guard down enough for Neville to take out the snake Horcrux, that Voldemort would be defeated by someone at the Battle of Hogwarts.
So, Voldemort could have killed Harry in year 5, but Dumbledore still found out about the Horcruxes and destroyed them, or as many as he could, telling Snape about the rest before his death from the cursed Ring, and Snape could have destroyed the Horcruxes and killed Voldemort. It's theoretically possible, however, that Dumbledore, since he knew about the Horcruxes since Harry's 2nd year, and knew they were in the plural since Harry's 4th year, that, possibly, he could have destroyed them all and defeated Voldemort in a duel, assuming he wasn't done in by the Ring by putting it on.
However, now that I think of it, the hope Dumbledore inspires, his power and hardness to defeat (which could prove bad for any Death Eaters that ran into him. Other than Snape, whom Dumbledore LET kill, nobody but Draco ever got so much as one up on him (and Draco just disarmed him.) None of the Death Eaters dared go for him directly, save Draco, who was forced to. And Dumbledore also lead the Order of the Phoenix, the main enemies of the Death Eaters.
Dumbledore was a legend , vildemort was actually a powerful wizard so he had the sight to see how op Dumbledore was. average wizards don't get the full scope.
Just a small mistake: When Voldemort went for the teaching job interview, Dumbledore called him Tom as always and Voldemort said that he is known by another name nowdays and Dumbledore said he knew that, as well as the rest of his activities.
Dumbledore was never fooled by Tom Riddle. Tom was intimidated by Dumbledore before he even became voldemort. Dumbledore was never afraid of saying Voldemort's name, plus Dumbledore worked on taking voldemort down since voldemort came to power. Dumbledore knew that Hagrid was innocent but had no proof against Tom at the time.
And Dumbledore knew more than voldemort.