My Lord Commissar with Emperor's Benediction has killed (to date): 3 Dakkajets 6 Ork Boys A Morkanaut (well, it's last wound anyways) Vulkan H'stan himself Swarmlord Typhus 3 Plague Marines Probably some more less impressive stuff over various battles. and 7 cowardly guardsmen. My god I love this guy.
On my battlefields lord commissar Vasquez has not survived a single battle - he always charges the oncoming enemy lines at one point or another. He has killed an intercessor after charging their squad and he has killed chorne berserkers with The Emperor's Benediction. Though usually he just dies in battle with a necron lord or equivalent enemy HQ choice. He has also never executed any Mordian guardsman, but that is to be expected. And if nothing else, with me owning no command squads, the lord commissar and my primaris psyker make a cool retinue for my warlord company commander.
My Catachans' commisars keep accidentally being eaten by monsters or falling off cliffs- the boys try their best to save them, but there was just no helping them, sadly. ;-)
Yeah, the only commissars I would recomend you bring would be HQ choices, seeing as "rule of three" hurts the Guard hard. That, and they cost around as much as a Company Commander. Easy way to bring a Supreme Command detachment, so your Baneblades get regimental traits.
@@benkaes3657 By that point you should just bring in tank commanders and comp commander, or even primaris psychers because they all have proactive combat abilities whereas lord commissars have limited tactical flexibility.
@@Leifenguard not bad ideas, but in my case I already have three comp commanders and three Primaris psykers in my current list. I don't really have the points for 3 tank commanders and a baneblade, so I compromise. I do agree that the Guard has better options than Commisars (whether they are Lords or otherwise), my problem is that for the most part, I'm already using them.
There might be even a situation where it is usefull to reroll aiming for a higher number. For example: Denying the opponent an easy kill in their next turn, by finishing of a unit now, when they already scored "kill more" this turn.
Maybe it’s my great experience with them in 7th as well as 8e that continues to made them an auto include in my guard list. Since 7e I have ran sort of a melee squad: company commander, commissar, and offer a priest all nestled in a huge group of guardsmen. This has now moved to often replace the priest with a primaris psykers but when playing a Catachan list the Priest always seems to stay. With the recent drop in astropaths these are now replace most of my Primaris psykers.
Glad you brought up that master of command trait as I had been wondering if the new keyword had negated Yarrick's ability to issue orders to scions if he is the warlord.
Nice video, I do enjoy watching them to see if there is anything that I have missed. You did make a small error regarding Its For Your Own Good. The ability only triggers if the perils slays the psyker, preventing the mortal wounds aura. So there is no downside, the Commissar just prevents damage to other units.
One thing about the voice of command warlord trait is it also allows the commissar to order a units that normally never receive orders. For example Bullgryn normally never get orders be cause their regimental keyword is "Abhuman Auxilia" and it is not possible to take a company or platoon commander with this regimental keyword. Since the Commissar can issue it to any regiment it can be used to make Bullgryn benefit from Fix Bayonets or Re-roll 1's to hit or wound with a large squad of ratlings.
I don't think that is true. This errata: Page 140 - Master of CommandAdd the following sentence:‘If your Warlord is a Commissar, it can issue an order to any Infantry unit (irrespective of what regiment that unit is from - e.g. Militarum Tempestus, Cadian, etc.)’ Would mean that the unit still needs to be , and I don't think Abhuman Auxilia counts.
@@Trickstick77 Yup. According to the codex, the abhuman units do not have the keyword. So unless there's FAQ somewhere that rectified this, then yeah, you're correct.
Commissars are the reason I didn't look at the Imperial Guard when I was first interested in 40k. Now they are my Fuck You! unit if an enemy character tries to plow through my gun lines.
Lets see a video on Imperial Guard Rough Riders!! Not a lot of Fast Attack options for the guard and they can take a special weapon? Would like to learn more about them as I have got my hands on about 12 of them.
As a Mordian, I find Commissars very interesting due to our high morale - since Parade Drill only increases our Ld by +1 rather than changing the base stat, it increases whatever Aura of Leadership increases it to. With Yarrick amongst my men, the Guardsmen of the Mordian 59th have 10 Ld. That matches Guilliman. Short to say, The Hero of Hades Hive continues his tradition of not having to execute anyone while he accompanies my armies.
Unfortunately that doesn't work. There was an FAQ that states: Q: Some Characters have aura abilities, such as a Commissar’s Aura of Discipline or a Chaplain’s Spiritual Leader, that allow nearby friendly units to use the character’s Leadership characteristic instead of their own. There are also lots of abilities that modify Leadership characteristics. Could you explain how these rules interact and in what order I should apply the substitution and any modifications? A: You modify the Leadership characteristic first, then you use the character’s Leadership characteristic instead (this means that the modification will not affect the unit unless the character’s Leadership has also been modified). So, unless you can modify the Commissar's leadership it doesn't work, and Commissars can't be Mordian.
instead of a lord commissar, use an inquisitor. give LD 10 and psykers a 5+ invun oder terrify to deny overwatch. same points, awesome in use. especailly for melee bomb list an autoinclude
I like bringing Lord Commissars with my Catachan Infantry Hell Ball. I kit him out with a boltgun and power maul. Doing this, he's pretty good in melee, allowing him to tie up pesky Marines, demons, and pretty much anything else the Emperor seems Heretical. Combined with Yarrick, Straken, and my axe wielding sergeants, my hell ball is pretty deadly in melee, surprisingly.
Used to love commisars, have around 30 from back when you could attach one to units but with the new rules for Mordians and moral basically getting one for free Ive stopped using them, which is sad as I rather do love the lore behind them and the way the models look on the table top.
I know the feeling. Still want our penal legion troopers with the frenzon injectors and explosive collars and the lads with the suicide bomber vests. Guard's lost a lot of the old grimdark feel it once had.
Is there a place where someone can look up all these update and changes online? i just started at the end of last year and got my codex before all these updates.
My Lord Commissar with Emperor's Benediction has killed (to date):
3 Dakkajets
6 Ork Boys
A Morkanaut (well, it's last wound anyways)
Vulkan H'stan himself
Swarmlord
Typhus
3 Plague Marines
Probably some more less impressive stuff over various battles.
and 7 cowardly guardsmen.
My god I love this guy.
"Fear me, but follow!" "Either you serve on the front line or you serve on the firing line!"
Seriously these boys are so strong in DoW1
Where is His will needed?
*literally anything happens*
*Spams E key*
I did not give you permission to die!
Wasn't aware that summary execution was a choice. Nice.
A Commissar only executes a Psyker if he would be slain as a result of perils of the warp, so a 4 wound Primaris Psyker is safe from his Boltgun :)
You actually want them next to each other so you don't care if you perils in the middle of your own line
Actually only the primaris psyker has the for your own good rule. Commissars don't execute astropaths.
That just means he can execute him 4 times.
On my battlefields lord commissar Vasquez has not survived a single battle - he always charges the oncoming enemy lines at one point or another. He has killed an intercessor after charging their squad and he has killed chorne berserkers with The Emperor's Benediction. Though usually he just dies in battle with a necron lord or equivalent enemy HQ choice. He has also never executed any Mordian guardsman, but that is to be expected.
And if nothing else, with me owning no command squads, the lord commissar and my primaris psyker make a cool retinue for my warlord company commander.
My Catachans' commisars keep accidentally being eaten by monsters or falling off cliffs- the boys try their best to save them, but there was just no helping them, sadly. ;-)
When you can get an astropath for 1 point less that deals mortal wounds, commissar seems pretty lackluster.
Yeah, the only commissars I would recomend you bring would be HQ choices, seeing as "rule of three" hurts the Guard hard. That, and they cost around as much as a Company Commander. Easy way to bring a Supreme Command detachment, so your Baneblades get regimental traits.
@@benkaes3657 By that point you should just bring in tank commanders and comp commander, or even primaris psychers because they all have proactive combat abilities whereas lord commissars have limited tactical flexibility.
@@Leifenguard not bad ideas, but in my case I already have three comp commanders and three Primaris psykers in my current list. I don't really have the points for 3 tank commanders and a baneblade, so I compromise. I do agree that the Guard has better options than Commisars (whether they are Lords or otherwise), my problem is that for the most part, I'm already using them.
@@benkaes3657 Ah okay, that is totally fine, no problem with that at all.
There might be even a situation where it is usefull to reroll aiming for a higher number.
For example: Denying the opponent an easy kill in their next turn, by finishing of a unit now, when they already scored "kill more" this turn.
Maybe it’s my great experience with them in 7th as well as 8e that continues to made them an auto include in my guard list. Since 7e I have ran sort of a melee squad: company commander, commissar, and offer a priest all nestled in a huge group of guardsmen. This has now moved to often replace the priest with a primaris psykers but when playing a Catachan list the Priest always seems to stay. With the recent drop in astropaths these are now replace most of my Primaris psykers.
Glad you brought up that master of command trait as I had been wondering if the new keyword had negated Yarrick's ability to issue orders to scions if he is the warlord.
Nice video, I do enjoy watching them to see if there is anything that I have missed.
You did make a small error regarding Its For Your Own Good. The ability only triggers if the perils slays the psyker, preventing the mortal wounds aura. So there is no downside, the Commissar just prevents damage to other units.
One thing about the voice of command warlord trait is it also allows the commissar to order a units that normally never receive orders. For example Bullgryn normally never get orders be cause their regimental keyword is "Abhuman Auxilia" and it is not possible to take a company or platoon commander with this regimental keyword. Since the Commissar can issue it to any regiment it can be used to make Bullgryn benefit from Fix Bayonets or Re-roll 1's to hit or wound with a large squad of ratlings.
I don't think that is true. This errata:
Page 140 - Master of CommandAdd the following sentence:‘If your Warlord is a Commissar, it can issue an order to any Infantry unit (irrespective of what regiment that unit is from - e.g. Militarum Tempestus, Cadian, etc.)’
Would mean that the unit still needs to be , and I don't think Abhuman Auxilia counts.
@@Trickstick77 Yup. According to the codex, the abhuman units do not have the keyword. So unless there's FAQ somewhere that rectified this, then yeah, you're correct.
Commissars are the reason I didn't look at the Imperial Guard when I was first interested in 40k. Now they are my Fuck You! unit if an enemy character tries to plow through my gun lines.
It would be nice if Severina Raine actually was a HQ choice, then she might actually be worth her points.
Lets see a video on Imperial Guard Rough Riders!! Not a lot of Fast Attack options for the guard and they can take a special weapon? Would like to learn more about them as I have got my hands on about 12 of them.
As a Mordian, I find Commissars very interesting due to our high morale - since Parade Drill only increases our Ld by +1 rather than changing the base stat, it increases whatever Aura of Leadership increases it to. With Yarrick amongst my men, the Guardsmen of the Mordian 59th have 10 Ld. That matches Guilliman. Short to say, The Hero of Hades Hive continues his tradition of not having to execute anyone while he accompanies my armies.
Unfortunately that doesn't work. There was an FAQ that states:
Q: Some Characters have aura abilities, such as a Commissar’s Aura of Discipline or a Chaplain’s Spiritual Leader, that allow nearby friendly units to use the character’s Leadership characteristic instead of their own. There are also lots of abilities that modify Leadership characteristics. Could you explain how these rules interact and in what order I should apply the substitution and any modifications?
A: You modify the Leadership characteristic first, then you use the character’s Leadership characteristic instead (this means that the modification will not affect the unit unless the character’s Leadership has also been modified).
So, unless you can modify the Commissar's leadership it doesn't work, and Commissars can't be Mordian.
Trickstick good to know! Thanks for the bit, must have missed that in my last reading of FAQs
@@genis999591 no problem, so many things to remember that some will always be missed. I only remebered because I tried the same thing a while back.
Can't you use a regimental standard to increase the leadership by 1 instead?
instead of a lord commissar, use an inquisitor. give LD 10 and psykers a 5+ invun oder terrify to deny overwatch. same points, awesome in use. especailly for melee bomb list an autoinclude
I like bringing Lord Commissars with my Catachan Infantry Hell Ball. I kit him out with a boltgun and power maul. Doing this, he's pretty good in melee, allowing him to tie up pesky Marines, demons, and pretty much anything else the Emperor seems Heretical. Combined with Yarrick, Straken, and my axe wielding sergeants, my hell ball is pretty deadly in melee, surprisingly.
Used to love commisars, have around 30 from back when you could attach one to units but with the new rules for Mordians and moral basically getting one for free Ive stopped using them, which is sad as I rather do love the lore behind them and the way the models look on the table top.
I know the feeling. Still want our penal legion troopers with the frenzon injectors and explosive collars and the lads with the suicide bomber vests. Guard's lost a lot of the old grimdark feel it once had.
Thanks for all the great guides! Will you do any Custodes reviews soon?
Certainly, particularly if they get a codex update. It'll be SW and Orks for a bit after Saga of the Beast though...
Is there a place where someone can look up all these update and changes online? i just started at the end of last year and got my codex before all these updates.
Battlescribe usually has the most up to date data sheets :)
@@chanachon56 that includes the new stratagems and what not?
@@Yalk099 No stratagems sadly. You'll still need your codexes for those. You might be able to find specific stratagems online though
Alrighty. Ill need to do research. Im sure it's frowned upon if there was just an online source where they couldn't sell the books
Who says commissars can't take chain swords? It's good enough for Caiphus Cain, it should be good enough for our commissar.
I keep Commissars so my Death Korps of Krieg don't Leroy Jenkins themselves .
HOLD! THE!! LINE!!!
BLAM!
BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!
I wish these guys were more impactful... real shame.
Yet another useless guard unit...sigh