Scientists probe newly discovered methane emissions

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • Greenland's massive ice sheets are melting. Inquiring scientists want to know: How much methane comes ​from these retreating glaciers?

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  • @mafarmerga
    @mafarmerga Рік тому +13

    "The RATE of change, that is scary"
    Yes, this is the thing that most people do not get. It is not change per se that is worrying.
    It is the RATE of change.

    • @kimweaver1252
      @kimweaver1252 Рік тому +2

      Worse...... it's the rate of change of the rate of change. What exponent in the exponential change?

  • @lyraserpentine894
    @lyraserpentine894 Рік тому +26

    So, things are looking more dire than we originally anticipated. I know the models can't account for every variable, but witnessing in real time how quickly Greenland is melting and comparing that ice melt to how slow the models are does not give me much hope. We should've done something about this 30 years ago and now because of feedback loops, we're probably too late.

    • @andacomfeeuvou
      @andacomfeeuvou Рік тому +5

      I think we should've done something about 80 years ago, and now we are certainly too late.

    • @aaronfranklin324
      @aaronfranklin324 Рік тому

      @@andacomfeeuvou you never could have done anything. icesheets build, cap and pressurise the deep Crustal Aquifer and magmatic systems, trap Geothermal heat and rift apart the crust.
      Then exponentially blowout and collapse, releasing all of the chemical and thermal energy they have stored up for thousands of years in the lithosphere.
      This is a natural periodic process.
      Stop pretending humans caused it or could stop it. You have delusions of grandeur. An infatile superhero complex from too much silly fantasy you watch on your programming screen.

    • @jayleeper1512
      @jayleeper1512 Рік тому +2

      With the warming oceans, massive amounts of methane sequestered at the bottom of the Arctic Ocean may start to gasify then affecting climate even more dramatically.

    • @GameMasters825
      @GameMasters825 Рік тому +3

      It is already too late,sorry for your kids

    • @johnnolang3734
      @johnnolang3734 Рік тому

      I am an old fella but I can remember the alarm about the decomposition of methane hydrate 3 decades ago and everybody ignored them. Then it was called methane calthrate. Last year, the temperature on the Siberian coast of the Arctic ocean reached 30ºC. That's generally considered HOT.

  • @tommclean7410
    @tommclean7410 Рік тому +13

    Another source of methane - yikes! Glacier research is so important. Thanks for doing and sharing this.

  • @nicholasb8799
    @nicholasb8799 Рік тому +8

    Natalia Shakhova told us this over a decade ago...

  • @riparianlife97701
    @riparianlife97701 Рік тому +23

    Conservatives in 2019: CO2 is harmless!
    Conservatives in 2020: If I put on a mask, the CO2 will kill me.

    • @umm_rit_
      @umm_rit_ Рік тому

      Them: Masks don't work and can't stop small viruses from passing through the mask.
      Also them: Masks work so well that not even O2 molecules can enter and also CO2 will be trapped on the inside.

    • @fakedoorsfordinner1677
      @fakedoorsfordinner1677 Рік тому +2

      It is and will soon be 2022 in my part of the world

    • @kavalogue
      @kavalogue Рік тому

      Here we to again, another person on a science based video refusing to acknowledge the science behind the globally used disposable masks being useless. Go away

    • @nyali2
      @nyali2 Рік тому

      CO2 will kill me? Just how stupid can you be.. honestly read an elementary biology book.. please

    • @will7its
      @will7its 11 місяців тому

      @@boyblue3270 Did you get that from cnn or msnbc or the view???

  • @jamestiburon443
    @jamestiburon443 Рік тому +6

    I would like to compliment the Czech scholars for speaking such perfect, educated English. As an American, you speak English better than 80% of Americans!

    • @HaroldBrice
      @HaroldBrice Рік тому

      James Tiiburon: Your opine, of course.

    • @jamestiburon443
      @jamestiburon443 Рік тому

      Why would I opine from CZECHS speaking perfectly?

  • @canuckprogressive.3435
    @canuckprogressive.3435 Рік тому +7

    Damn, this is not good news.

    • @will7its
      @will7its 11 місяців тому

      No news is because of your liberal guilt........

  • @-LightningRod-
    @-LightningRod- Рік тому +5

    i am grateful that you continue this work and share it with us, ...
    We are listening,...still looking for Good LEADERS

  • @TennesseeJed
    @TennesseeJed Рік тому +8

    WASF

    • @LarryCleveland
      @LarryCleveland Рік тому +4

      I see there's an option to translate that to English but no need. It more clear every day. 😢

    • @TennesseeJed
      @TennesseeJed Рік тому +2

      @@LarryCleveland haw! Unfortunately

    • @NightRunner417
      @NightRunner417 Рік тому +1

      Yepper depper doo.

    • @Deebz270
      @Deebz270 Рік тому +2

      WASSF actually.

    • @TennesseeJed
      @TennesseeJed Рік тому +2

      @@Deebz270 so so? WASVF (very)

  • @nsbd90now
    @nsbd90now Рік тому +11

    Well, I've definitely become a doomster. So sad. From now on each year will be worse than the one before. We're going to shoot right past 2.5C. Is it too much to expect terrifying social breakdowns by 2030?

    • @Patrick_Ross
      @Patrick_Ross Рік тому +2

      2030? Yes. 2100….no.

    • @nsbd90now
      @nsbd90now Рік тому +3

      @@Patrick_Ross Well Patrick, we're going to find out. That's for sure! lol!

    • @NightRunner417
      @NightRunner417 Рік тому

      No no not at all. The stress fractures in civilization are already very apparent and it's pretty obvious that the world is in no way shape or form ready for any of the consequences that are coming. It was already predicted by supercomputer that civilization would collapse sometime around 2040. As things stand right now, I see no reason why it couldn't happen by 2030, or at least be so well on the way as to make little difference. The biggest problem with all these "technology will save us!" people is that tech can't save us if we're scrambling just to hold things together. When the slide down into collapse becomes impossible to miss, we won't be able to muster enough resources to fight anything let alone climate change.

    • @aum82
      @aum82 Рік тому +1

      Certainly would appear that way

    • @anthonymorris5084
      @anthonymorris5084 Рік тому

      What a fearful and myopic crew of doomsday cultists. Data proves that humanity has never been safer, healthier or more prosperous than at any time in history, by any measurement you care to examine. The data is indisputable and readily available, easily obtained from authoritative sites. You folks live the most privileged life in history and all there is, is whining.

  • @obsoleteoptics
    @obsoleteoptics Рік тому +6

    Key words: _rate of change_

    • @obsoleteoptics
      @obsoleteoptics Рік тому

      @@jzsbff4801 Careful now, let's keep it simple and monosyllabic. We wouldn't want to scare anyone off with big words like that.

  • @Deebz270
    @Deebz270 Рік тому +10

    Yet another self-reinforcing feedback to add to the 60+ already counted.

  • @vernonbrechin4207
    @vernonbrechin4207 Рік тому +16

    Thanks for sharing that research. As more data is gathered it will be useful for incorporating into the climate models, most of which have so far seriously underestimated the rate of actual warming in the Arctic region.

  • @richardjarrell3585
    @richardjarrell3585 Рік тому +3

    Watch Professor Guy McPherson at NATURE BATS LAST

  • @harveytheparaglidingchaser7039

    Interesting. Hope you post an update end of season

  • @patrick247two
    @patrick247two Рік тому +4

    Thank you.

  • @markallen381
    @markallen381 Рік тому +2

    Is any vegetation being planted in this area?

    • @DrSmooth2000
      @DrSmooth2000 9 місяців тому

      They want to stop vegetation from approaching the pole

  • @langdons2848
    @langdons2848 Рік тому +3

    "Scientists continue to be surprised by the speed of changes - especially those changes that make for a positive feedback"
    Perhaps we need some new scientists - or is the journalism the problem? Either way, no-one involved in climate science or climate journalism should be surprised by new findings that climate change and its self-reinforcing consequences (like new sources of methane ramping up) are accelerating.
    That is literally how positive feedback loops work.

    • @biomechanique6874
      @biomechanique6874 Рік тому +2

      You are absolutely right about the quality of scientists today. Universities discriminate in favour of ability to pay over actual academic ability. Any dummy from a cashed-up family can become a 'scientist' but too few are worthy of their posts.

    • @biomechanique6874
      @biomechanique6874 Рік тому

      @@xchopp Wake up deary, otherwise the real world is going to bite you in the arse very hard indeed.

  • @Peace2051
    @Peace2051 Рік тому +4

    Combustion is the problem; methane is the accelerant. Sequester hydrocarbons in the ground where they are now.

    • @deepashtray5605
      @deepashtray5605 Рік тому +5

      The methane itself is a serious problem. The actual uncombusted methane molecule is some 25X more powerful as a greenhouse gas than an equivalent amount of carbon dioxide and the individual methane molecules remain in the atmosphere for 8-12 years. Over a 20 year period methane has the combined effect of being 80X powerful than CO2. Uncombusted, it accounts for 30% of the observed global temperature rise.

    • @Deebz270
      @Deebz270 Рік тому

      @@deepashtray5605 & @Peace2051 - Exactly AND... Once methane breaks down, it reverts to two more GHG's adding to the mix - CO2 and H20 vapour. Methane is far from being benign as a gas alone.

    • @deepashtray5605
      @deepashtray5605 Рік тому

      @@Deebz270 At the last state fair I attended a 4H club member had a display explaining how the cattle industry really doesn't contribute to climate change as portrayed because the methane it produces breaks down into CO2 which is just being cycled by the cattle through cattle feed... completely failing to mention how powerful a greenhouse gas methane is in its own right.

    • @HaroldBrice
      @HaroldBrice Рік тому +1

      Peace2051: Oh all right, good idea. And when you are finished with that be sure to get the garbage can to the curb for pick up.

  • @angelsplace
    @angelsplace Рік тому +2

    Dane Wiginton did an excellent video presemtation on methane release by noaa on his channel last week.

  • @haunterbuythem137
    @haunterbuythem137 Рік тому +3

    Its a sealed deal my friends

    • @olivialim7541
      @olivialim7541 Рік тому

      Yep. We fucked around and now we’re finding out

  • @HaroldBrice
    @HaroldBrice Рік тому +2

    All of you PHD's and wannabe PHD's need to keep in mind that Mother Nature is at work here and she does not need any help. Very nice that you all get to go out and play in the out-of-doors on someone else's nickel. And that what you do will not make one iota difference to what happens. Just tell me one thing you are going to personally do differently as a result of watching this massive display of our planet at work. Thought so.

    • @Pistolita221
      @Pistolita221 Рік тому

      Are you claiming because they haven't highlighted sacrifices they made in their personal life the data is bad? lmao. bubba..

    • @howard5992
      @howard5992 Рік тому

      wut ?

  • @EmeraldView
    @EmeraldView Рік тому +6

    Given that it's inevitable in the near future, the universe has prepared me for dying. It's sad, but I now realize humanity isn't worth saving.

    • @anthonymorris5084
      @anthonymorris5084 Рік тому

      Jeez, get some therapy. What a horrific thing to say. There are countless millions of people with incredible talents, drive, ambition, skills, vision, courage, selflessness, and on and on who contribute to humanity and the world in wonderous ways.

    • @EmeraldView
      @EmeraldView Рік тому +3

      @@anthonymorris5084 Sorry. I've concluded that by-and-large those people are much too few and far between. Humanity is not worth saving.

    • @Don-lw8ly
      @Don-lw8ly Рік тому

      @@EmeraldView Over population will kill us off. Lemmings?

    • @EmeraldView
      @EmeraldView Рік тому +1

      @@Don-lw8ly Basically. Technically it's overconsumption. Overshoot of the Earth's capacity to maintain the lifestyles of 8 billion human beings.

    • @SLCSStrengthCoach
      @SLCSStrengthCoach Рік тому +1

      @@anthonymorris5084 i agree, there are a lot of innocent bystanders who are generally good, valuable, and noble. Our system does not reward this. Humanity, in it's ideal, is worth saving. If #emeraldview had stated it differently, as in say, "humanity in its current condition is not worth saving" then I would agree. Humanity is not equal to Individual humans
      Honestly the only way to save our planet and humanity itself is to scrap the current system entirely. What, if anything, could possibly drive us to change our current system. I would suggest that nothing other than implosion will do the trick which speaks to the "inevitability" that #emeraldview speaks of.

  • @richardgraham7055
    @richardgraham7055 Рік тому +8

    "...the rate of change ...that's scary." -- methane concentrations are accelerating. It seems that many parts of the world are experiencing rates of change far in excess of predictions. Conditions that weren't supposed to arrive before the end of the century are threatening to appear overnight.

    • @UnknownMoses
      @UnknownMoses Рік тому +1

      There is no climate crisis

    • @will7its
      @will7its 11 місяців тому

      @@boyblue3270 Your literally writing this on a computer connected to the world in a climate controlled room........Your the problem

  • @parrsnipps4495
    @parrsnipps4495 Рік тому +2

    My understanding is when trapped old plant life is exposed and decomposes via bacteria, it produces CO2, but if it decomposes without bacteria it produces methane. I'd be curious to know if where that water spout is, if they captured air above it, would it indicate elevated levels of methane or CO2 or both or normal levels?

    • @thevindictive6145
      @thevindictive6145 Рік тому +2

      I think this is old science. Its not with or without bacteria. Its with or without oxygen. Its aerobic vs anarobic. Still remember some science from high school, thats many decades ago.

    • @wlhgmk
      @wlhgmk Рік тому +2

      Not so. If the breakdown of the organic material is with oxygen available, the product is Carbon dioxide. If the breakdown is by anaerobic bacteria in the absence of oxygen, the product is Methane (and often ammonia)

    • @aaronfranklin324
      @aaronfranklin324 Рік тому +2

      This is not decomposing organic material. It is the effect of abiotic reduction of carbonates in Geothermal and magmatic settings.
      I would like to see a full chemical, microbial and isotopic Analysis of their GEOTHERMAL spring water please.
      It is important that we know how much ABIOGENIC hydrogen sulphide, halogens, methane and other elements, particularly magmatic He3 and Argon anomalies it contains.
      So we can estimate the progression rate and severity of these natural periodic,
      UNAVOIDABLE!!!
      Phreatomagmatic blowouts of Glaciated landmasses.
      This should be constantly updated and publically available data.
      These are exponential runaways.
      NOT avoidable, NOT influenceable.
      Only to be prepared for, as you would go up on a hill to avoid being smashed by a Tsunami.

  • @Pistolita221
    @Pistolita221 Рік тому +1

    "The Great Dying Two, Sapien Boogaloo"

  • @christopherellis2663
    @christopherellis2663 11 місяців тому

    Archæa, archæology
    Don't blame the ruminants
    Rice crops produce methane
    Vegans do too.

  • @will7its
    @will7its 11 місяців тому

    Everything they are wearing or using in this video was made from oil??? wtf???
    The irony is suffocating......

  • @glike2
    @glike2 Рік тому +2

    "We can't be sure" is not a good thing to say because it can be misconstrued due to the unfortunate politicization...

    • @glike2
      @glike2 Рік тому

      The data uncertainties are complicated to convey

    • @howard5992
      @howard5992 Рік тому

      @@glike2 of course, I agree
      But many seize on " uncertainty " to mean " doubt ".
      Not knowing how larger a problem many be can be used to justify wondering if there is even a problem at all.
      If we can't be sure if we have a problem then we can be sure we won't address it.

  • @joeblack4436
    @joeblack4436 Рік тому +3

    What bothers me is if the organic matter trapped below the ground and glaciers are of a quality that they can still be metabolised by micro organisms. That alone would generate a lot of energy. Think of how hot compost can get. Certainly combined over such large areas, volumes one should say, the combined effect would be severe in such environments.

  • @entelechyearth
    @entelechyearth 9 місяців тому

    We will reach a tipping point which will rapidly melt the icecaps. Nobody understands how quickly this will happen. Our lifetimes.

    • @DrSmooth2000
      @DrSmooth2000 9 місяців тому

      That would be rad. 2350 before Greenland would be just free at 8.5

  • @MrMfaust5
    @MrMfaust5 Рік тому +2

    Very disturbing!

    • @politicalfoolishness7491
      @politicalfoolishness7491 10 місяців тому

      Did you hear about COP28? 97,000 people thought it was a good idea to fly there to attend and some got stranded at the German airport from a snowstorm. 🤣🤣🤣LOL

  • @klokangeorge4005
    @klokangeorge4005 Рік тому

    ??? Absolutely NO importance

  • @lostvisitor
    @lostvisitor Рік тому +1

    so why are we fracking for it?

    • @will7its
      @will7its 11 місяців тому

      Because you like hot water and central heat.......

    • @lostvisitor
      @lostvisitor 11 місяців тому +1

      @@will7its Did you not watch the video? If methane is bursting out of the ice there is no need to cause earth quakes and ruin ground water to get it.

  • @bimmjim
    @bimmjim Рік тому

    Never add music to science.

  • @jamestiburon443
    @jamestiburon443 Рік тому +4

    Thanks! Have you discovered that we are already lost to climate feedback loops?

    • @jedturner9173
      @jedturner9173 Рік тому +1

      james , what we are seeing now is feedback from 20 years ago, 20 year lag, it takes 10s of thoasands of years for perma frost to form, millions of years for ice, and we are still not doing a thing , feedback loops are already in play ,its a matter of time before arctic feedbacks join in , this will tell you , ie summer sea ice extent, when this goes , few years

    • @jamestiburon443
      @jamestiburon443 Рік тому +1

      @@jedturner9173 I agree with you. Thank you for your response. Also, the best book I have read about climate is by Dr. MARK LYNAS. It is " 6 Degrees: Our final Warning". Cheers

    • @jamestiburon443
      @jamestiburon443 Рік тому

      @@jzsbff4801 Hi Friend. I guess any "Cenotaph" won't matter down the road, as We Say in the U.S.

    • @will7its
      @will7its 11 місяців тому

      Its called liberal guilt........turn off your heat if you want to feel better.

  • @awilliams4957
    @awilliams4957 7 місяців тому

    The seals are beginning to be opened.

  • @jeanjacquesdessalines1425
    @jeanjacquesdessalines1425 Рік тому +5

    Excellent travail , bravo et merci beaucoup !

  • @knarftrakiul3881
    @knarftrakiul3881 4 місяці тому

    Next ice age is close

  • @stanleykubrick8786
    @stanleykubrick8786 5 місяців тому

    Wow. wow

  • @Fluffy-Tail-0000
    @Fluffy-Tail-0000 Рік тому

    All lies.

  • @giangthituyen16
    @giangthituyen16 Рік тому

    the scene is so beautiful

  • @jimbob-jn6jz
    @jimbob-jn6jz Рік тому

    I recognized that voice from arctic death spiral.

  • @holeshothunter5544
    @holeshothunter5544 Рік тому

    WATCH THIS AT 1.25 SPEED TO AVOID NODDING OFF.

  • @francescamichelaveronica3559

    can that methane be harvested and stored?

    • @sobolanul82
      @sobolanul82 9 місяців тому

      Nope. The area is huge extending from Siberia to Alaska, Greenland.

  • @nancylaplaca
    @nancylaplaca Рік тому

    Thanks Peter

  • @vthilton
    @vthilton Рік тому

    Save Our Planet - Science

    • @amilias1000
      @amilias1000 Рік тому +1

      Science will not save us it is the cause.

  • @Borishal
    @Borishal Рік тому

    If it were to ignite ...

    • @DrSmooth2000
      @DrSmooth2000 9 місяців тому

      Apparently never in such concentration. Edpands geometrically into atmo

  • @nickbagnall
    @nickbagnall Рік тому +1

    The artic cooled last year, it is starting it's colder phase.

  • @STEVEARABIA1
    @STEVEARABIA1 Рік тому

    As land warms from permafrost, the first thing to awaken is the bacterial action on old plant life that’s trapped in the soil, but then plants will grow on the surface of this soil which will absorb CO2. This should offset some amount of the methane produced just like soil everywhere. What is this ratio?

  • @guidosillaste4297
    @guidosillaste4297 Рік тому

    Probably the sun and earths pole shift coming. Question is where is the pole going to stop? If it stops in a non habitable area nothing wbad will happen ,but if it stops in a high population are like it did whit siberia(10000 city ruins found in siberia some as large as london) then mass migration the likes we have not seen for a long time. Europes going desert for sure.

  • @juskahusk2247
    @juskahusk2247 Рік тому

    I guess that's why they call it Greenland.

  • @pcrombie501
    @pcrombie501 Рік тому

    methane can be found just about everywhere yes or no

  • @anthonymorris5084
    @anthonymorris5084 Рік тому

    Feedback loops mean "change". They don't mean "always catastrophic, every single time".

    • @parrsnipps4495
      @parrsnipps4495 Рік тому +6

      Maybe you're unaware of just how much methane is trapped in the Arctic, on land & in underwater clathrates. It's numerous times more than what's in the atmosphere.

    • @anthonymorris5084
      @anthonymorris5084 Рік тому

      @@parrsnipps4495 20,000 years ago the entire northern hemisphere was covered in mile thick ice. This occurred for millions of years. When the glaciers receded 10,000 years ago the permafrost melted, and methane was released. Humans without an ounce of technology survived through this entire period. It only takes about 10 years to absorb methane from the atmosphere. The world simply isn't as fragile as people make it out to be. Humans are alarmists.

    • @nicholasdemetriades9154
      @nicholasdemetriades9154 Рік тому +3

      Innumerable feedback loops however paint a much more dire picture.

    • @anthonymorris5084
      @anthonymorris5084 Рік тому

      @@nicholasdemetriades9154 The endless climate mantra: "Just you wait, it's going to get bad, you'll see." Repeat decade after decade in perpetuity. Data proves that humanity has never been safer, healthier or more prosperous than at any time in history, by any measurement you care to examine. This trend has continued uninterrupted through 200 years of growing fossil fuel use, 200 years of warming and 43 years of climate hysteria.
      Climate zealots worship wild hyperbolic speculations of future events that never materialize while willfully ignoring the data from actual events that have transpired.

    • @Pistolita221
      @Pistolita221 Рік тому

      The last time methane released at this rate it caused the largest mass extinction in earths history, called 'The Great Dying'

  • @jeffgold3091
    @jeffgold3091 Рік тому

    so why did it get colder( today’s temps ) after the permafrost was exposed 8-5000 years ago ?

    • @ochir4361
      @ochir4361 Рік тому +4

      Most of Greenland is warm-based ice. So there is no permafrost under it.

    • @liamhickey359
      @liamhickey359 Рік тому +2

      Who are you Jeff.

    • @Patrick_Ross
      @Patrick_Ross Рік тому +3

      @@liamhickey359 - Jeff is an anti-science troll. Best to ignore him.

    • @liamhickey359
      @liamhickey359 Рік тому +1

      @@Patrick_Ross troll or bot.

    • @Deebz270
      @Deebz270 Рік тому +1

      @@liamhickey359 Does it matter which?

  • @anthonymorris5084
    @anthonymorris5084 Рік тому +1

    "Temperatures in the Arctic are rising 4 times faster than the rest of the planet." How is that not a good thing. The poles are the most uninhabitable places on Earth. Would you sooner this occurred on the equator? This doesn't cause a threat to humans in any way, shape or form.

    • @tinoyb9294
      @tinoyb9294 Рік тому +3

      Slava Dunning-Kruger!

    • @donovanjones4175
      @donovanjones4175 Рік тому +3

      Read about the ocean currents conveyer belt, read about methane release, read the revenge of Gaia. The arctic warming is the worst thing that can happen and the heat will come south,

    • @anthonymorris5084
      @anthonymorris5084 Рік тому

      @@donovanjones4175 Data proves that humanity has never been safer, healthier or more prosperous than at any time in history, by any measurement you care to examine. This trend has never been interrupted. Environmentalists and people like James Lovelock believe that the Earth is some kind of pristine, nurturing place of harmony and purity that humans, like a parasite are wrecking. The Earth in fact is a hostile place that will kill you at any opportunity. Humans have made it more livable with each passing century.
      Every single living creature alive today exploits its environment to survive. The Earth is not anthropomorphic, does not have a "fever" and is simply not that fragile. With each passing decade humans become better stewards of the environment, not some kind of harmful pest.

    • @renatoantonelli3894
      @renatoantonelli3894 Рік тому

      You really are a dodo ...

    • @renatoantonelli3894
      @renatoantonelli3894 Рік тому +1

      We are gonna fry if the escape of methane really accelerates