Thanks for a great install video! I have had a new wheel sitting in its box for over a year out of fear of screwing this diy! Thanks to this posting I will feel much more comfortable!
Just used this video to install my wheel! Awesome walkthrough. Took me around 45min. Hardest part was taking off old trims from old wheel. Only extra step I would recomend and I took was to remove the air bag fuse for extra saftey. I do not notice anything off with the allignment. Great upgrade. Im useless with all these things and was able to DIY it so you can do it too!
thanks for the video!! i had a very easy time installing the wheel. as others mentioned, i started with the back side of the wheel to remove the black trim first. btw cipher wheels are THICK around 3' & 9' positions.. like 2" thick. It's awesome and makes the whole car feel rigid as the wheel doesn't feel thin and flimsy like the OEM. I got the carbon fiber version which is just pure eye candy. Worth it in my opinion given that the steering wheel is the most used part of the car.
Great vid. One thing though; when doing any such work on a vehicle where the ramifications of the negative terminal swinging back and touching the negative post on the battery is huge, it is best practice to cover the neg post with one of those plastic post covers/caps that usually come with a new battery. Only then can you be be sure of no contact.
Had my new cipher wheel installed by Mazda dealer last week. The wheel does not line up properly so the alignment had to be done, it’s the truth. By the way, the cipher wheel from Moss Miata is FATTER and the feel driving is fantastic, totally recommend their wheel.
Great videos guys, got myself An nc, minty condition. The Bilstein dampers, and eibach Springs are a bit baggy though. Might go with HKS or ohlins. Steering wheel looks a step up.. 👍
Hey guys. I'm still a year or so away from my graduation present to myself (a new ND Club) and am learning so much with your videos. Thank you and keep up the great work. I have heard a lot of mention that the paint is very thin and prone to sun damage on ND's. Is this accurate and do you have recommendations such as UV resistant clear coat or anything along those lines? Thanks in advance!
The metallic Mica colors have a reputation for being thin and prone to chipping. A high quality PPF film is probably your best bet to prevent chips while driving.
@@FlyinMiataVideo Thanks for the response....the steering wheel appeared to be about 1/4 not all the way seated, once I tightened the nut to 36 FPs it seemed to flush nicely. Thanks again....!
@@FlyinMiataVideo So the wheel is is a couple degrees off center. I used the blue tape to line things up, but it's definitely off center. I've seen some other posts that an alignment might be necessary, but I would thing I need to reset it to center? Thoughts?
Do you have to remove the fuse for the airbag too? or is it not necessary as long as I disconnect the negative terminal. Also, is this process the same for an automatic nd with paddle shifters as well?
As long as you disconnect the battery and discharge the electrical system as mentioned in the video, you wouldn't need to remove the airbag fuse. I'll have to reach out to Cipher to see if the auto paddle shifters could be brought over.
@@FlyinMiataVideo Thank you so much for replying, please let me know if the paddle shifters can be transferred onto the Cipher auto Enhanced Steering Wheel (D cut)!
Fun fact. I’ll bet your electric power steering will now be off center. I did this installation a few months ago and the teeth on the steering rack didn’t line up with the teeth on the steering wheel exactly the same after installation and I tried it three different times. I also used blue tape and had everything lined up exactly as demoed in this video. Now I’m told that the only way to overcome that is to get an alignment done which I will be doing eventually, but I’ve been waiting for my Flyin Miata Stage 2 Fox Coilovers before I have the alignment done so that I don’t have to have it done twice. Hopefully you guys can get me my suspension soon so that I can get my steering and alignment correct again on my ND.
Sorry you had issues with the steering wheel alignment. It's very easy to get the wheel off one tooth, even using the tape and closely monitoring the alignment during installation. If it can't be centered using the teeth on the spline, then the actual wheel alignment is your best option to get it straight. For what it's worth - this car had no issues with the steering wheel being centered after installation.
I am having exactly the same issue. I am using a Kenstyle steering wheel on my 2019 ND. It simply does not line up exactly. Like another guy said, it appears the insert is off by 1 spline. If you adjust even 1 spline, it throws the wheel off in the other direction. I am going to get an alignment done.
If you aren't comfortable doing the install yourself, it might be worth asking them. Some dealers won't install aftermarket parts, so you may need to find another alternative. We suggest reaching out to your local Miata club for installer suggestions.
We don't have a video but the Cipher steering wheels do work with factory paddle shifters and once you get in there, it's pretty easy to figure out how they are removed/installed.
i was currently trying to install the cipher auto d cut steering wheel but when i try to mount the new wheel, it feels like something is pushing against the wheel and it is impossible to push it in fully, do u know what the possible issue is?
We assume this should work with the paddle shifters as well, but have not actually tried the install personally. As long as the paddle shifters don't attach to the steering wheel directly in any way, it will probably be the same basic install. Feel free to reach out to our customer support team directly if you have more questions! Thanks!
Question, is it normal to face greater resistance installing the new wheel vs removing the old? I finished the install of the new wheel, but was only able to get it partially on the splines before being unable to push it on with a reasonable amount of force by hand. Since I knew it was already aligned on the splines I used the nut to push it in with a torque wrench reading 10-15ft/lb until it bottomed out and hit the target torque. It just makes me nervous I effectively had to pressure fit the wheel. Anybody else have a similar experience with the install?
What you've described is normal for a Cipher wheel install. The fitment needs to be a little tight to prevent deflection of the steering wheel once it has been installed.
Thanks for a great install video! I have had a new wheel sitting in its box for over a year out of fear of screwing this diy! Thanks to this posting I will feel much more comfortable!
Just used this video to install my wheel! Awesome walkthrough. Took me around 45min. Hardest part was taking off old trims from old wheel. Only extra step I would recomend and I took was to remove the air bag fuse for extra saftey. I do not notice anything off with the allignment. Great upgrade. Im useless with all these things and was able to DIY it so you can do it too!
Thanks for the feedback, glad the video was some help!
Used this video today to help install my new Guardian Designs wheel. Very helpful & made the process smooth and relatively quick. Thanks!!
Glad we could help!
thanks for the video!! i had a very easy time installing the wheel. as others mentioned, i started with the back side of the wheel to remove the black trim first. btw cipher wheels are THICK around 3' & 9' positions.. like 2" thick. It's awesome and makes the whole car feel rigid as the wheel doesn't feel thin and flimsy like the OEM. I got the carbon fiber version which is just pure eye candy. Worth it in my opinion given that the steering wheel is the most used part of the car.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you! It helped me a lot! I would only recommend to start plastic removal from back black part, it is easier.
Great vid. One thing though; when doing any such work on a vehicle where the ramifications of the negative terminal swinging back and touching the negative post on the battery is huge, it is best practice to cover the neg post with one of those plastic post covers/caps that usually come with a new battery. Only then can you be be sure of no contact.
This was a great help. Did end up with slightly off center alignment. Not a big deal and will do front end alignment eventually.
Thank you so much for the video. I installed a wheel on a 2024 MX-5. A note: The steering wheel controls are different for a 2024 than years previous.
Glad it helped. Thanks for the info!
Thanks for putting this video out! I still managed to break three tabs. Sigh. Oh well
Had my new cipher wheel installed by Mazda dealer last week. The wheel does not line up properly so the alignment had to be done, it’s the truth. By the way, the cipher wheel from Moss Miata is FATTER and the feel driving is fantastic, totally recommend their wheel.
Thanks for watching!
Good Job Kayle!!! Thanks for another Great Video! Best Always,
I'm gonna install the Cipher steering wheel in my NA tomorrow on a Saturday.
Awesome tutorial
I gotta do this for a guardian designs wheel but I guess all the steps are the same
They should be very similar for any aftermarket wheel that keeps the buttons and airbag. :)
Would love to see an NA guide. I’m stuck with the wiring and I have no idea how to complete the job.
Video was over by the time I found the 10mm 😂
😂
Great videos guys, got myself
An nc, minty condition. The
Bilstein dampers, and eibach
Springs are a bit baggy though.
Might go with HKS or ohlins.
Steering wheel looks a step up..
👍
Hey guys. I'm still a year or so away from my graduation present to myself (a new ND Club) and am learning so much with your videos. Thank you and keep up the great work.
I have heard a lot of mention that the paint is very thin and prone to sun damage on ND's. Is this accurate and do you have recommendations such as UV resistant clear coat or anything along those lines? Thanks in advance!
The metallic Mica colors have a reputation for being thin and prone to chipping. A high quality PPF film is probably your best bet to prevent chips while driving.
not kidding PPF is your friend, also keep in mind aluminum top (RF) , hood, trunk. Don’t be parking your baby under a walnut tree :)
awesome video
1:13 should you remove the Air Bag fuse as well?
@kavalere You could, but if you've disconnected the battery and waited past the SRS system timeout, removing the fuse is not necessary.
remove the black piece in the back first, then u can push out the pins, much easier
Thanks for the tip!
Tks for video
You are welcome!
Thanks. Is the new steering wheel smaller than the OEM? Where can i buy it from? Cheers❤
flyinmiata.com/products/ciper-steering-wheels-for-nd
how do you know if the steering wheel is as far back as it should be before you tighten the nut ?
It'll pull forward as you tighten the nut if it's not fully seated. Just pushing the wheel on should be enough.
@@FlyinMiataVideo Thanks for the response....the steering wheel appeared to be about 1/4 not all the way seated, once I tightened the nut to 36 FPs it seemed to flush nicely. Thanks again....!
@@kavalere You are welcome and we're glad to hear you got the wheel pulled on all the way!
@@FlyinMiataVideo So the wheel is is a couple degrees off center. I used the blue tape to line things up, but it's definitely off center. I've seen some other posts that an alignment might be necessary, but I would thing I need to reset it to center? Thoughts?
@@kavalere any luck? Im about to do a swap and wondering If ill need to get an alignment scheduled
Looks to me that it would be a good idea to keep the OEM steering wheel but at least I have some idea what is inside.
Do you have to remove the fuse for the airbag too? or is it not necessary as long as I disconnect the negative terminal. Also, is this process the same for an automatic nd with paddle shifters as well?
As long as you disconnect the battery and discharge the electrical system as mentioned in the video, you wouldn't need to remove the airbag fuse. I'll have to reach out to Cipher to see if the auto paddle shifters could be brought over.
@@FlyinMiataVideo Thank you so much for replying, please let me know if the paddle shifters can be transferred onto the Cipher auto Enhanced Steering Wheel (D cut)!
Can you remove the silver pieces without removing the entire wheel to paint them ?
Boy, you might be able to but I think it'd be easier if you remove the wheel. Thanks for watching.
Fun fact. I’ll bet your electric power steering will now be off center. I did this installation a few months ago and the teeth on the steering rack didn’t line up with the teeth on the steering wheel exactly the same after installation and I tried it three different times. I also used blue tape and had everything lined up exactly as demoed in this video. Now I’m told that the only way to overcome that is to get an alignment done which I will be doing eventually, but I’ve been waiting for my Flyin Miata Stage 2 Fox Coilovers before I have the alignment done so that I don’t have to have it done twice. Hopefully you guys can get me my suspension soon so that I can get my steering and alignment correct again on my ND.
Sorry you had issues with the steering wheel alignment. It's very easy to get the wheel off one tooth, even using the tape and closely monitoring the alignment during installation. If it can't be centered using the teeth on the spline, then the actual wheel alignment is your best option to get it straight. For what it's worth - this car had no issues with the steering wheel being centered after installation.
Same issue with mine, it's like the insert in the wheels aren't all the same, it's off by 1 spline but ends up looking 5 degrees off 🙃
I am having exactly the same issue. I am using a Kenstyle steering wheel on my 2019 ND. It simply does not line up exactly. Like another guy said, it appears the insert is off by 1 spline. If you adjust even 1 spline, it throws the wheel off in the other direction. I am going to get an alignment done.
@@azierej…did you get the front wheel alignment done and did it bring the new steering wheel back to the original centered position?
I just changed my steering wheel but mine is 2007 everything is screwed in pretty easy
I want to order the same wheel with blue stitching from your website, will this fit a 2020 RF?
Yes, it will fit a 2020 RF. :)
The blue variant is being discontinued, so you'll need to take advantage of what we still have on the shelf!
Is it worth having your dealer do this for you? I wonder how much that would cost.
If you aren't comfortable doing the install yourself, it might be worth asking them. Some dealers won't install aftermarket parts, so you may need to find another alternative. We suggest reaching out to your local Miata club for installer suggestions.
I broke one clip of one control. What kind of glue could I use?
Not knowing how bad it is....superglue works pretty good on plastic fasteners.
Anyone find a video with paddle shifters ? Does that make a difference
We don't have a video but the Cipher steering wheels do work with factory paddle shifters and once you get in there, it's pretty easy to figure out how they are removed/installed.
i was currently trying to install the cipher auto d cut steering wheel but when i try to mount the new wheel, it feels like something is pushing against the wheel and it is impossible to push it in fully, do u know what the possible issue is?
It's difficult to say without seeing your situation - feel free to email us some photos of your problem at support@flyinmiata.com
Hi, did you ever get an answer to this? Having the same problem
@@jgasser2020 Please email our customer support team and we'd be glad to help.
Same thing for atomatic RF with shiftpaddles?
We assume this should work with the paddle shifters as well, but have not actually tried the install personally. As long as the paddle shifters don't attach to the steering wheel directly in any way, it will probably be the same basic install. Feel free to reach out to our customer support team directly if you have more questions! Thanks!
was it the same for the automatic?
@@seo_nd2 Yes, but you must remove the paddles and swap them llike everything else. Very easy. 2 screws each side
How possible that the steering is unlocked without ignition ?
If you mean the turn lock that most cars experience when parked, the ND doesn't have this issue.
@@FlyinMiataVideo good to know. i will install next week!
My turn signal stalk won’t auto cancel turn signal after I remove the steering wheel once
Reach out to our customer support team directly through phone or email, they might be able to help you trouble shoot the issue.
330?
Can someone please let me know if the paddle shifters can be transferred onto the Cipher auto Enhanced Steering Wheel (D cut)?
We're still waiting to hear back from Cipher on this. Sorry for the wait.
From Cipher, the mounting holes are the same as OE so, there shouldn't be an issue using it with an automatic car.
@@FlyinMiataVideoThank you so much for asking them and letting me know!! 🙏
Question, is it normal to face greater resistance installing the new wheel vs removing the old? I finished the install of the new wheel, but was only able to get it partially on the splines before being unable to push it on with a reasonable amount of force by hand. Since I knew it was already aligned on the splines I used the nut to push it in with a torque wrench reading 10-15ft/lb until it bottomed out and hit the target torque. It just makes me nervous I effectively had to pressure fit the wheel. Anybody else have a similar experience with the install?
What you've described is normal for a Cipher wheel install. The fitment needs to be a little tight to prevent deflection of the steering wheel once it has been installed.
Does installing an aftermarket steering wheel void the warranty?