Nooo... you let that bearded thief walk away with your money! (22:22 - you still had potions to sell him and get your money back😄). You'll get him next time!
As far as I know you can trade multiple times with a merchant. Also, anything you pay would be added to their available gold. You can buy things and then bulk sell to get all your gold back.
Yes, you should first buy what you want, and then you can calculate how many potions you need to sell to get as close to the full amount as possible through haggle. That would be the easiest. 😊
Yes, you can haggle down to half but only up to 50% so seperating is the best. Also you can increase the merchant's max gold with a skill even mid haggle and it is retroactive.
Also, 11 episodes and you finally decided to sell to merchants. This would be a common thing back in those times - alchemists selling to both the public (everyday people) and companies (aka other merchants). Beast10x1 doesn't even sell to customers in his suffering playthrough - he just bulk brews, sells to merchants and buys everything he needs. He's not popular with the people, but he is with the merchants.
Merchants give about a 4th of the gold even with the extra gold when selling to them perks. I've sold luke 100k to them over my play through, but he hasnt had many potion mats up to this point because well he has been taking the days slow to show correct methods to brew things. I'd say keep around 100 of each ingredient and bulk brew the rest. That should be enough to deal with alchemy machine special potions.
Hi, if you have problems with 'harder' haggling difficulty then in video setting s you can lower FPS it will be manageable that way. I like this series. You make it seem easy :)
Ohh, I need to try that, seems very counter-intuitive! So if I could set it to 10 FPS, would it go so slow that master haggle would be easy? xD Cheers!
Those higher difficultly haggling 'challenges' become almost trivially easy with the haggling speed and calm manner perks with the side effect that it actually takes longer to haggle because the pointer is moving so sloowwwwwww
Hey Great Videos ! I would haved loved to see a little bit more love with the thumbnails, they look like the same from last year. (If i didn't have seen a outher youtuber Play this game , I would have missed that my favorit Potionbrewer is Starting a new Run with a new Update 2.0) Finaly cought up on this Series, and hocked to see more.
I did put quite a bit of effort in the thumbnail :) over an hour in photoshop, and I did want it to look familiar. Might not have worked on you though, which is fair enough ;D Enjoy, cheers!
5:25 "How do you know?" - when initiating haggling, you see the "good deal" bonus, which is on top of the existing deal, edit: aaaaaaand at 7:28 you realized it haha
When you do improve your stone skin potion recipe can you open the Nigredo recipe, remove the old stone skin potion and replace it with the new one? Do some merchants pay more for potions than others? If not, the gold supply perk seems useless, since you'll always trade potions for merchandise and don't really need gold as such.
I checked and all merchants pat the same for potions :) so no optimization required there! The gold is always useful regardless. For example in a situation where two or three progression items appear in close order.
I'm enjoying my run on Classic, not gonna start Grandmaster sooner or later xD Once I got Mudshroom seed from Shroomie's Wife(?) I just injecting it with Wild Growth, up to 200+ Then bulk brewing Strength Potion and sells to any merchant, Since you can make Strength Potion with just 1 Mudshroom Is it a cheesy way to gain money and exp? Yes Is it feels fun and powerful tho? Very Yes XD
Don't risk the higher haggling difficulty until you get the haggle speed talents first. The ROI (return on investment) for doing harder haggling isn't worth it. I mentioned this in a comment on one of your previous videos.
From experience, I can't handle higher haggling difficulty due to the poor framerate of the rendering of the haggle marker. Once I have enough skill points, I'll try it out with some slowdown :D
How would that help though? If my issue is that the haggle marker only updates at 30 FPS, limiting the FPS to 30 for the game shouldn't have an effect?
@@KillrobPlays It makes the game run slower which slows down the haggling marker. At least thats what I remember I did when I played the game a year ago.
Enjoyed the first couple of this series for the fact you shared your thought process .... but then that wasn't necessary every. Single. Time. Unique situations, fine. Repeat pathing decisions ... NO! I couldn't take watching all the extra filler so I've sought a faster paced playthrough that isn't so painful to watch. If you are the same with your other content, I might watch the first couple of videos on the series, but imagine searching elsewhere beyond that.
Sure, that's fine :) if it is painful to watch then don't. I don't think there is much filler here and you are allowed to have a different opinion. Thanks for sticking with it so far! Cheers
whelp i take the thing i said on the last episode with the golden books back. imo now youre too far in already for it to matter. if 13 of some of your first points would have went towards the green books and the golden books on the map in the beginning where you sold potions for less than 10 gold a piece it would have made a massive difference. each manual brewing process would have probably doubled the gold worth youre making off a single potion. but since you already invested so heavily into the combo of bulk brewing, gardening, and potion selling to merchants youre at a point where it doesnt matter anymore.
Yes, I believe you're correct about that :) with how much XP we're getting, I'll definitely get the skill and max it out, for science xD but it is not needed anymore.
I started grandmaster difficulty yesterday and went all in on bulk brewing. i didn't advance the chapters, stuck with chapter one and then just kept getting skill points with the basic potions. I have maxed out the trade tree and bought the alchemy machine. I think I will try the insane difficulty next.
Hope the Alchemist comes with the next part of the machine for you. Or that Albedo recipe is kinda useless. Also the garden upgrade will not be 6.2k any more.
3 things: 1) There's a skill that slows down the haggle bar so that higher level haggling is just as "fast" (or slow, depending on how you look at it) as medium. 2) For those of you suggesting weird potions combinations - the dev already thought of that. There are certain combinations that sell for 0, because they don't make sense. And customers won't buy them either. So good luck with that. 3) When you put things up to sell, the haggle button will gray out if a maximum haggle deal is not possible. So you could also just put potions up until the haggle button grays out. Edit - For #3, you can even see when you hover over the haggle button what level haggling it thinks you have to do to afford that thing.
Nooo... you let that bearded thief walk away with your money! (22:22 - you still had potions to sell him and get your money back😄). You'll get him next time!
Haha, there will be revenge! :D
As far as I know you can trade multiple times with a merchant. Also, anything you pay would be added to their available gold. You can buy things and then bulk sell to get all your gold back.
That makes calculations a little easier, yes :) but does require you to have lots of cash reserves :D
An acid/love potion would do numbers in the '60s XD
xD sounds about right!
Yes, you should first buy what you want, and then you can calculate how many potions you need to sell to get as close to the full amount as possible through haggle. That would be the easiest. 😊
Separating it into two parts for that reason makes sense :)
Yes, you can haggle down to half but only up to 50% so seperating is the best. Also you can increase the merchant's max gold with a skill even mid haggle and it is retroactive.
Also, 11 episodes and you finally decided to sell to merchants. This would be a common thing back in those times - alchemists selling to both the public (everyday people) and companies (aka other merchants).
Beast10x1 doesn't even sell to customers in his suffering playthrough - he just bulk brews, sells to merchants and buys everything he needs. He's not popular with the people, but he is with the merchants.
Merchants give about a 4th of the gold even with the extra gold when selling to them perks. I've sold luke 100k to them over my play through, but he hasnt had many potion mats up to this point because well he has been taking the days slow to show correct methods to brew things.
I'd say keep around 100 of each ingredient and bulk brew the rest. That should be enough to deal with alchemy machine special potions.
I'm not Beast10x1 and I'll discover the game my own way :) I appreciate your comments, just don't be passive aggressive or pushy about things you see.
Hi, if you have problems with 'harder' haggling difficulty then in video setting s you can lower FPS it will be manageable that way. I like this series. You make it seem easy :)
Ohh, I need to try that, seems very counter-intuitive! So if I could set it to 10 FPS, would it go so slow that master haggle would be easy? xD Cheers!
Those higher difficultly haggling 'challenges' become almost trivially easy with the haggling speed and calm manner perks with the side effect that it actually takes longer to haggle because the pointer is moving so sloowwwwwww
I'll have to try it out! :)
Hey Great Videos ! I would haved loved to see a little bit more love with the thumbnails, they look like the same from last year. (If i didn't have seen a outher youtuber Play this game , I would have missed that my favorit Potionbrewer is Starting a new Run with a new Update 2.0)
Finaly cought up on this Series, and hocked to see more.
I did put quite a bit of effort in the thumbnail :) over an hour in photoshop, and I did want it to look familiar. Might not have worked on you though, which is fair enough ;D Enjoy, cheers!
5:25 "How do you know?" - when initiating haggling, you see the "good deal" bonus, which is on top of the existing deal,
edit: aaaaaaand at 7:28 you realized it haha
Yes, will find a way to get this done right :D Cheers!
If only you could see what the bonus would be before you started haggling...
When you do improve your stone skin potion recipe can you open the Nigredo recipe, remove the old stone skin potion and replace it with the new one?
Do some merchants pay more for potions than others? If not, the gold supply perk seems useless, since you'll always trade potions for merchandise and don't really need gold as such.
I checked and all merchants pat the same for potions :) so no optimization required there!
The gold is always useful regardless. For example in a situation where two or three progression items appear in close order.
wow, those big sells were huge
Yes, who needs money when you can use potions as currency :D
wow) I didn't sell potions to merchants at all... now I see ^^
It is not something that I thought of either... does make sense though :)
quick invisibility and mana with magic sight might be good profits aswell
Yes, we'll need to figure out some good combos that are efficient!
I'm enjoying my run on Classic, not gonna start Grandmaster sooner or later xD
Once I got Mudshroom seed from Shroomie's Wife(?) I just injecting it with Wild Growth, up to 200+
Then bulk brewing Strength Potion and sells to any merchant, Since you can make Strength Potion with just 1 Mudshroom
Is it a cheesy way to gain money and exp? Yes
Is it feels fun and powerful tho? Very Yes XD
Yeah, the 0.5 mudshroom per lvl 3 potion is rather powerful! :D Looking forward to that one
Don't risk the higher haggling difficulty until you get the haggle speed talents first. The ROI (return on investment) for doing harder haggling isn't worth it. I mentioned this in a comment on one of your previous videos.
From experience, I can't handle higher haggling difficulty due to the poor framerate of the rendering of the haggle marker. Once I have enough skill points, I'll try it out with some slowdown :D
I only managed to get strengh 1 and stoneskin 3 with that dryad terraria dryad.
also these 2 ingredients move the same distance when fully grinded.
Yeah. You don't seem to be able to hit strength 2/3 and stomeskin 3 in the same go with those ingredients.
Yes! So I could switch the first terraria for a dryad's saddle :)
For the advanced haggling you could try dropping your game to run on 30 fps in the options. Maybe that helps if you haven't done that yet
How would that help though? If my issue is that the haggle marker only updates at 30 FPS, limiting the FPS to 30 for the game shouldn't have an effect?
@@KillrobPlays It makes the game run slower which slows down the haggling marker. At least thats what I remember I did when I played the game a year ago.
Enjoyed the first couple of this series for the fact you shared your thought process .... but then that wasn't necessary every. Single. Time. Unique situations, fine. Repeat pathing decisions ... NO! I couldn't take watching all the extra filler so I've sought a faster paced playthrough that isn't so painful to watch. If you are the same with your other content, I might watch the first couple of videos on the series, but imagine searching elsewhere beyond that.
Sure, that's fine :) if it is painful to watch then don't. I don't think there is much filler here and you are allowed to have a different opinion. Thanks for sticking with it so far! Cheers
whelp i take the thing i said on the last episode with the golden books back. imo now youre too far in already for it to matter. if 13 of some of your first points would have went towards the green books and the golden books on the map in the beginning where you sold potions for less than 10 gold a piece it would have made a massive difference. each manual brewing process would have probably doubled the gold worth youre making off a single potion. but since you already invested so heavily into the combo of bulk brewing, gardening, and potion selling to merchants youre at a point where it doesnt matter anymore.
Yes, I believe you're correct about that :) with how much XP we're getting, I'll definitely get the skill and max it out, for science xD but it is not needed anymore.
I started grandmaster difficulty yesterday and went all in on bulk brewing. i didn't advance the chapters, stuck with chapter one and then just kept getting skill points with the basic potions. I have maxed out the trade tree and bought the alchemy machine. I think I will try the insane difficulty next.
Nice! That is a good build :)
Hope the Alchemist comes with the next part of the machine for you. Or that Albedo recipe is kinda useless. Also the garden upgrade will not be 6.2k any more.
Yes! That no longer seems unattainable with these newfound skills xD
I figured out how to get stoneskin 3 with just those ingredients. I don't think you can also get strength 2 at the same time, only strength 1.
Close! :D
3 things:
1) There's a skill that slows down the haggle bar so that higher level haggling is just as "fast" (or slow, depending on how you look at it) as medium.
2) For those of you suggesting weird potions combinations - the dev already thought of that. There are certain combinations that sell for 0, because they don't make sense. And customers won't buy them either. So good luck with that.
3) When you put things up to sell, the haggle button will gray out if a maximum haggle deal is not possible. So you could also just put potions up until the haggle button grays out.
Edit - For #3, you can even see when you hover over the haggle button what level haggling it thinks you have to do to afford that thing.
Right! I'll keep an eye on that :) thanks!