Hollywood Outtakes: On Set or On Location--Railroad Stations
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Here is a series of clips, outtakes from Hollywood studio productions, of busy interiors of big-city railroad stations. Which ones were filmed on-set? Which ones were filmed on location? Can you tell? If you think you know, leave a comment saying which you think is which.
Here are my guesses:
1. (0:19) Can't be sure, but the scene appears to have a lot of depth, even if it is rather small. On location?
2. (0:30) The clapboard says "stock," so this could not only be on-location, but the people in it might be actual travelers. The scene is certainly well-lit, though. Busy, too. Location.
3. (2:06) Definitely a set. The lockers on the back wall almost look painted on.
4. (2:38) Sure looks like track 26 at Grand Central Terminal in New York. But the second set of doors in the back aren't right, as well as the chains and railings. Set?
5. (3:04) Looks, at first, like the same track-26 set in number 4, except that the car listing next to the train board is gone. Again, the doors in the back suggest that it is a set.
6. (3:26) A third take on New York's Grand Central Terminal, only this time we see the train and platform. Pretty convincing, until the train starts to move. No New York Central passenger train would start that jerkily. Set.
7. (4:30) Looks like location to me. Wish I knew where it was.
8. (4:53) Looks like a set to me. The man in spats cuts in line.
9. (5:22) Tight shot. Looks like a set to me.
10. (5:36) Is this supposed to be Los Angeles Union Station? Set?
11. (6:01) Definitely a set--the forced perspective gives it away. The painted ceiling looks a little like Washington D. C.
The film is silent (though by watching the actors, you can practically hear the director yell "Action" and "Cut"), so I've added some music by Australian composer Arthur Benjamin to the soundtrack.
![Los Angeles early 40s,50s in color [60fps, Remastered] w/sound design added](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1PJD-PbENvg/mqdefault.jpg)
I don’t know which shots are which - but you certainly understand music. This in itself is worth a comment and a thank you.
I think 4 5 and 6 are Grand Central Terminal
But different interpretations of it, if you look closely. Among the more obvious differences is that in 4, there seems to be leaded glass in the decoration over the portal, whereas in 5 it looks flat like cut metal or plywood (and the sign to the left of it is simpler), and in 6 there's an opaque panel behind it. Also, the door in the wall to the right of the opening doesn't seem to have quite the same proportions in the three shots -- it's a lot different in 4 -- and there are some sort of fittings attached to the wall on the sides of the portal in 6 that aren't there in the others.
Pretty cool! I liked how you could see the "Action " starting! Lots of fun guessing! I think i was pretty close to yours! If the observation railroad car, had actually smoothly moved down the platform, that one might have got me!
I assume that whenever the lighting is too good that it is a set. Especially backlighting and prominent shadows on the walls, etc.
That one guy keeps staring into the camera😂
At 6:47 there's a sign saying "Lawson- Cosgrove Shot"
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I’m probably going to say…..all sets. I don’t think I saw a ceiling anywhere. I could be wrong 😊😊
These are all sets. A platform or gate has 2 tracks to it, one on either side of the platform, therefore the clips purportedly at Grand Central, NY would not have just tack 26, it would have been "25 Track 26" at the minimum, if possibly a location. Go into Grand Central now and see for yourself. None of these clips pan more than 8 feet above the actors, another clue that these are sets. Any higher would have been empty space.
How fascinating, Was able to figure out the 1st 2...
Really fun thanks. No. 4 sure looks like Portland, Oregon to me.
2 appears to be Central Station Los Angeles
The host is wrong about #2 it’s a set with a movie in the background giving it depth. They’re all sets.
Well, as of this writing two people have declared that each shot uses a SET. So, In the interest of balance, I’m yelling that each shot utilizes a LOCATION!!! No doubt about it!!!
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Since you're asking....They ALL look like 'Sets'.
I think you mean they all LOOK like sets - theatrical lights in public locations did give a scene that 'shot on a set' look. I agree with most of our hosts choices, save number 9.
For what my opinion's worth:
1 and 2 are the same, shot from opposing angles. Was originally going to say "set" but I don't know if a studio would go as far in mundane detail to including a cast iron radiator as part of the background (1) or as a decidedly foreground distraction (2). Have to go with working with what an actual location provides.
All others are sets except for Number 7--that one is on location.
Great observation about 1 and 2.
Interesting -- I hadn't noticed that about 1 and 2. I was pretty sure 2 was location, but 1 looked like a set to me. You're probably right about them being location. I agree on 7, and all the others being sets except I thought 9 might be location (but it's certainly hard to tell).
#2 look closely... the foreground is on set, while the background is on location but projected on screen.
Scene #6 3:14 a.m ? That's a darn unsocial time to be setting out
I have to disagree with you on 1, I think it's a set. But I do agree on all the rest. In 11 we see the backround jerk left and right in the frame while the floor and actors are stable.
All sets😉
I say all sets also.
No they aren’t because the shots from within Grand Central are real. I run trains in and out of GCT and can tell that’s the real deal
Very interesting
How many of these were old CENTRAL STATION LOS ANGELES? Maybe 2 for example.
The ones of Grand Central appear to be real... lol
2,4, and 7 Location
Only two were real stations. 2 and 7, I think.
My guesses, without looking at any other comments (mostly). 1 looks like a set; those telephone doors are too flimsy and everything looks a little too flat. 2 I can't tell, so I'm guessing location but it could be a very well-made set. 3 also looks like a set, with the benches at an odd angle and the path through them arranged for visual drama rather than efficiency. 4 is too small to tell, but I'm not at all sure what's going on with the doors visible in the background. Set? 5 is obviously a cheaper version of the same place as 4, so set, and maybe 4 is location? And then we have 6, which again is the same place, but no background doors -- I did see a comment about an observation car moving not-smoothly, which primed me to notice that, and yeah, clearly a set. 7 feels like location; no set designer would have resisted the temptation to properly light the top of the wall, I expect. 8 is another "too small to really tell", but the marble looks faux to me; I think it's a set. 9 is just a brief glimpse, but it looks more real than most of these; I'd guess location. 10 I think is a set, because who in real life would design a dust-trap like that decor over the "... Pacific" sign at the left side of the frame? (That's flimsy evidence, I know.) For 11, I am fully prepared to believe that that dramatic ceiling is a matte painting on a set.
And it seems like I mostly agreed with our host's guesses, but the clues I pointed out were mostly different. That's fun.
As for the telephone booths in shot 1 I suspect they were added by the studio in an empty spot on location. They look out of proportion and as you say look flimsy. Another reply further down points out that shots 1 and 2 apparently were taken from opposite ends of the waiting room due to the radiator at the end of the benches being in both shots..
they are all sets
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On set, not on location.