Excellent video buddy. I like your truck and it scoots well. Ironically I used the same draggy app TODAY to test 0-60 on my 2017 Nissan Titan. I recently installed 275/70/18 mud terrain tires on it (which im kind of regretting) . Dropped 3mpg overall and I can feel the engine trying harder to accelerate. I did 0-60 in 7.3 seconds over and over again.
That is ironic! I think I dropped 2 mpg. These tires were a tad more aggressive than I wanted to go but the price was right and they had good reviews. Thanks for watching!
If your tires are larger/taller it effectively changes your gear ratio and completely negates your test... A better test would be to simply add weight to the same tire and wheel package.
This test is not good at all for adding WEIGHT. Would need to install same size tires with different weights. And that is easy to do. Just jumping between an SL, XL and LT will give 1-15 pounds of different weight.
Great Video! I love AutoVlog but honestly your content has been much superior to his lately. Keep it up you will be getting your 100k sub button in short order.
Besides tyres getting warmer...I guess for each successive run, you were turning the 4wd to 2wd slightly earlier in the run, might be that helped with time.
Biggest difference was that the road was wet on first runs and almost dry on second with heavier wheels meaning much warmer tires. That changes rolling resistance a lot!. If the heavier tires have also lower rolling resistance it can also help in that heavy car. On wet road tire temp is same as road and on dry its +30 to +40 celsius higher.
New Tundra that you never beat on, my bet is the ECU was learning trims & iteratively tweaking it's fueling & ignition trim tables, hence the improvement
Hi buddy. You spoke about throttle body spacer on your tundra in Autovlogs last video. Wanted to ask if it helps increase power or increases responsiveness? Also r there anu Any draw backs to it? Would u recommend installing it on Nissan Titan. Thanks in advance.
Here is the video I made about it. I can feel a difference in throttle response and it does give more HP. There is no downside. ua-cam.com/video/uUzHfkb86Nw/v-deo.html
It actually gears it up. Numerically wise. Overall it would lower your rpm's at the same speed versus the shorter tire. Like going from a 3.42 to a 3.25. Numerically it's taller geared. As in top gear convertor locked up the tire would be traveling further down the road per revolution. Rolling resistance. Tire plys and air pressure makes a difference as well. But that's splitting can't hairs. Lol
Interesting results. Will be interesting to see long term mileage results. The other truck is quick. It’s quicker in the quarter mile than me on my 2004 Honda Goldwing. What is the drag app that you are using called? Also sub #399 on your friends channel
Hey Brian, from a mechanic's perspective, is it bad to use 4x4 shift on the fly while flooring it? I assume not since you did it here, but what is actually happening underneath when you make the shift?
I would not do it while under heavy load. I shifted in to 4x4 and let it engage before I launched. On most vehicles, when you shift into 4x4 the front axle ends mesh into the front hubs electronically or with vacuum.
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS I see, so it's only really an issue if you're shifting into 4x4. Are you saying that shifting into 2wd under load is much less risky, if at all?
I wanted to ask the same thing. Just from what I can hear in the video, those tires sound as loud as the ProComp 35/12.50/20's I put on my F150. Those were the loudest tires I have ever had on a vehicle. Needless to say, I kept them 2 days and took them back and traded for the good ol' Nitto Ridge Grappler's. The ProComps are a harder compound, have a more aggressive tread pattern, and are more expensive than the Nittos, ($350 vs. $315 per tire) but still the difference in noise is shocking. The Nittos are great in the woods and over rocks and actually have a good tread life. They will be my go to from now on.
I am interested to know if you only added 44lbs total will all 4 wheels included or 44lbs per wheel totaling 176lbs of rotational mass? It would make sense if you only added a total of 44lbs to drop only a 1/10th. But you should have dropped quite a bit more if you added 176lbs.
I feel like I dropped a ton I added a total of about 300 pounds such a huge difference I mean after tuning and all it’s slightly faster than a bone stock truck but if I threw some stocks on it’s be a lot better
I'm surprised it was that little of a difference in a straight line! In turns you would probably see more of a difference but you're not gonna be corner carving in a truck anyways. Not gonna notice 0.1 second difference in the real world, but definitely looks cooler!
What horsepower & torque number does your Toyota engine produce? I mean, I drive a BMW E90 turbocharged 2.0 liter diesel with 221 lbf-ft torque and 143 hp, with 6-speed automatic. Current setup is 16 inch wheels with 18.7 lbs each wheel. I want to install 18 inch wheels which have 25.2 lbs each, so 6.5 lbs difference per wheel. Will this affect my acceleration and 1/4 mile time? I mean, if it is 0.1s I can live with it, but not more. Great video btw., tbh the results shocked my (pleasantly).
381HP and 401ft.lbs. Unfortunately, I think there will be a noticeable difference in acceleration on your BMW. I would look for a lighter weight wheel. Thanks for watching!
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS Thank you for the answer. I will go then with 17 inch, which are only 4 lbs heavier per wheel than the current 16 inch setup. I hope that they won't affect it that much ...
In this video, I used dragy gps dragymotorsports.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA0rSABhDlARIsAJtjfCfzWQQ8P3vKdHTJwyPcQfLgYpnr2YA6A_J-KTQc7hFaK3jiKTCj5-oaApRXEALw_wcB
I don't think it's actually switching from 4wd to 2wd while under load. The "4hi" flashing is the truck's way of saying, "waiting for a chance to do that." Doesn't really make any difference, but those first runs were 4 hi the whole way.
He doesn't beat on his truck, but he knows to launch in 4x4 mode, then switch back to 4x2 mode. It's wild that the Toyota transfer case can switch on the fly at high speeds. I don't believe my Ram will switch above 15-20 mph.
Holy Moley! I just mounted Falken 205/60r16 A/T Trails on my 205/55r16 Corolla Hatchback & gained 7lbs ea wheel/tire (28lb total gain). I thought I got fat:)
a high torque v8 an v6 handles bigger tires better than 4cylinders. on my celica i replaced the stock 15 inch rims an 195/60/r15 with a 16inch rim an 205/50/r16 ventus an my car turned in to a turd
Was the temperature the same for each day? Density altitude can make a big difference unless it's a turbo truck. 40 lbs per wheel should have been at least .4-.5 slower. That's impressive.
Here is what I know. Anybody who had an M4 and is happy to run 15 sec 1/4's is going backwards. Get the Transam, the mullet and the goldchain and get fast again. Lol
Buddy, how are you comfortable taking your hand off the wheel when going that fast? Like i get you're going in a straight line, mistakes are unlikely in that scenario on that road, but they're so unforgiving when you're moving like that
Not saying it’s a good idea and I am by no means a pro but I am pretty relaxed behind the wheel and I have a decent amount of experience driving at high speeds. Thank for your concern!
I'm a Mopar guy but the fuel economy on the Tundra ain't that bad as far as full size V8 pickups are concerned. Kind of middle of the road. To say it has crappy fuel economy given the gladiator exists is way too harsh on the yota.
@PIPSBURGHVIEWS Well yeah but turbo gas trucks like the ecoboost are kind of a different type of truck all together...What you save on gas you may very well spend on walnut blasting your valves or spinning a bearing. Not sure about the new Toyota V8 but the previous generation was a stupid simple design. It used to be a solid performer with rock solid reliability with okay gas mileage for a full size pickup of the era.
With heavy wheels it is harder to accelerate and stop only, once heavy wheels start moving you don't need as much power to keep rolling as with the light wheels. Basically once heavy wheels start rolling the centrifugal force just keeps them going with less and less effort. You will gain in mpg on long trips vs light wheels but, you will hate heavy wheels for city mpg.
Dude... do NOT swap between 2WD and 4WD under heavy throttle! Not smart! Also, use Tow Haul mode, will cut a bit of time off your runs as well, just quicker throttle tip in response.
Love the video man! Nice new intro.. I’m impressed with how you have grown! Been here since autovlog sent me!
Thanks Doug, I really appreciate your continued support!!
Excellent video buddy. I like your truck and it scoots well. Ironically I used the same draggy app TODAY to test 0-60 on my 2017 Nissan Titan. I recently installed 275/70/18 mud terrain tires on it (which im kind of regretting) . Dropped 3mpg overall and I can feel the engine trying harder to accelerate. I did 0-60 in 7.3 seconds over and over again.
That is ironic! I think I dropped 2 mpg. These tires were a tad more aggressive than I wanted to go but the price was right and they had good reviews. Thanks for watching!
If your tires are larger/taller it effectively changes your gear ratio and completely negates your test... A better test would be to simply add weight to the same tire and wheel package.
This test is not good at all for adding WEIGHT. Would need to install same size tires with different weights. And that is easy to do. Just jumping between an SL, XL and LT will give 1-15 pounds of different weight.
@@f5fstop i literally said the exact same thing.
Love the new intro. Truck looks and sounds great.
Thanks Randy, my wife made it. Just wait till the exhaust comes!
Love the new wheel setup Brian it looks amazing
Thank you!!
cool intro and I did your wheel setup too. Nice working out of a much cleaner looking shop too.
Thanks, my wife made the intro. The new shop is much better!
Great Video! I love AutoVlog but honestly your content has been much superior to his lately. Keep it up you will be getting your 100k sub button in short order.
Thanks man, I really hope so! It’s been kind of slow going lately.
Hell yes nice intro! Brian stepping up his UA-cam game haha.
Thank you, my wife made it for me!
Besides tyres getting warmer...I guess for each successive run, you were turning the 4wd to 2wd slightly earlier in the run, might be that helped with time.
Seeing in mikes truck in back in the car wash was funny. Waiting for your new exhaust video 👍
I thought it would be here by now, hopefully sometime this week.
Biggest difference was that the road was wet on first runs and almost dry on second with heavier wheels meaning much warmer tires. That changes rolling resistance a lot!. If the heavier tires have also lower rolling resistance it can also help in that heavy car. On wet road tire temp is same as road and on dry its +30 to +40 celsius higher.
Awesome new intro!!!
Thanks Ken, my wife made it!
That shop so so clean!
So fresh and so clean clean!
New Tundra that you never beat on, my bet is the ECU was learning trims & iteratively tweaking it's fueling & ignition trim tables, hence the improvement
That is possible
Hi buddy. You spoke about throttle body spacer on your tundra in Autovlogs last video. Wanted to ask if it helps increase power or increases responsiveness? Also r there anu Any draw backs to it? Would u recommend installing it on Nissan Titan. Thanks in advance.
Here is the video I made about it. I can feel a difference in throttle response and it does give more HP. There is no downside.
ua-cam.com/video/uUzHfkb86Nw/v-deo.html
That’s a great result. What did your mpg drop by, if any?
About 2.5 mpg
Love that color of truck!
Thanks Gary!
a larger tire has a larger radius and has the effect of lowering the gear ratio...ergo less power where the rubber meets the road.
It actually gears it up. Numerically
wise.
Overall it would lower your rpm's at the same speed versus the shorter tire.
Like going from a 3.42 to a 3.25.
Numerically it's taller geared.
As in top gear convertor locked up the tire would be traveling further down the road per revolution.
Rolling resistance. Tire plys and air pressure makes a difference as well.
But that's splitting can't hairs. Lol
Air temperature/humidity. Snow was melting during your runs
Interesting results. Will be interesting to see long term mileage results. The other truck is quick. It’s quicker in the quarter mile than me on my 2004 Honda Goldwing.
What is the drag app that you are using called? Also sub #399 on your friends channel
Thanks, you have been down since the beginning! It's called DRAGY
dragymotorsports.com
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS Thank you so much for the quick reply👍👍
Good job dude
Thanks! Your CAN-AM looks feakin' sweet!
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS thank you 😁
Hey Brian, from a mechanic's perspective, is it bad to use 4x4 shift on the fly while flooring it? I assume not since you did it here, but what is actually happening underneath when you make the shift?
I would not do it while under heavy load. I shifted in to 4x4 and let it engage before I launched. On most vehicles, when you shift into 4x4 the front axle ends mesh into the front hubs electronically or with vacuum.
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS I see, so it's only really an issue if you're shifting into 4x4. Are you saying that shifting into 2wd under load is much less risky, if at all?
@@Fordguy1997 that is correct.
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS thanks!
@@Fordguy1997 I don’t think doing either is real wise...
Great video. Anyone know the name of the iPhone app he was using in this video? Thanks alot.
Thanks! I used the DRAGY GPS
What’s the overall diameter of the original tires and of the heavier ones you installed?
32.1" compared to 33" and they are almost 2" wider.
Are you still using the CAI and throttle body spacer while doing these runs?
Yes, I am.
Hey Brian, can you give us an update of the noise level of your new tires, thanks.
I wanted to ask the same thing. Just from what I can hear in the video, those tires sound as loud as the ProComp 35/12.50/20's I put on my F150. Those were the loudest tires I have ever had on a vehicle. Needless to say, I kept them 2 days and took them back and traded for the good ol' Nitto Ridge Grappler's. The ProComps are a harder compound, have a more aggressive tread pattern, and are more expensive than the Nittos, ($350 vs. $315 per tire) but still the difference in noise is shocking. The Nittos are great in the woods and over rocks and actually have a good tread life. They will be my go to from now on.
They do make noise but not very loud, I will update as they wear.
It went faster each time cause your oil got hotter 👍 cold coolant and hot oil = happy engine
Can u post links on the tires and rims u purchased. Please! Thanks
All the information is in this video, thanks for watching!
ua-cam.com/video/hJ9cfZaMzZw/v-deo.html
Hi, what was the mph difference in the 1/8 and 1/4 mile? Also the 60ft difference. Thanks.
Hello, I tried to pull up that info but unfortunately, I could not. Thanks for watching
How about tire noise and ride quality with the more aggressive thread pattern and 10 ply?
They do hum a little bit and I didn't notice a difference in ride quality.
I am interested to know if you only added 44lbs total will all 4 wheels included or 44lbs per wheel totaling 176lbs of rotational mass? It would make sense if you only added a total of 44lbs to drop only a 1/10th. But you should have dropped quite a bit more if you added 176lbs.
44 pounds per wheel, so yes 176 total
I feel like I dropped a ton I added a total of about 300 pounds such a huge difference I mean after tuning and all it’s slightly faster than a bone stock truck but if I threw some stocks on it’s be a lot better
I'm surprised it was that little of a difference in a straight line! In turns you would probably see more of a difference but you're not gonna be corner carving in a truck anyways. Not gonna notice 0.1 second difference in the real world, but definitely looks cooler!
Thanks, I was surprised as well! I do feel the weight more when braking. I may upgrade the pads soon.
What horsepower & torque number does your Toyota engine produce? I mean, I drive a BMW E90 turbocharged 2.0 liter diesel with 221 lbf-ft torque and 143 hp, with 6-speed automatic. Current setup is 16 inch wheels with 18.7 lbs each wheel. I want to install 18 inch wheels which have 25.2 lbs each, so 6.5 lbs difference per wheel. Will this affect my acceleration and 1/4 mile time? I mean, if it is 0.1s I can live with it, but not more. Great video btw., tbh the results shocked my (pleasantly).
381HP and 401ft.lbs. Unfortunately, I think there will be a noticeable difference in acceleration on your BMW. I would look for a lighter weight wheel. Thanks for watching!
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS Thank you for the answer. I will go then with 17 inch, which are only 4 lbs heavier per wheel than the current 16 inch setup. I hope that they won't affect it that much ...
@@legioner9 that should be good
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS I am very happy to hear this. But on less powerful cars, even a 5 - 10 lbs per wheel matter so much?
@@legioner9 it really does.
Can you put a link or spell the name of that performance mod you installed and what app was that you used for your timing?
Think I found it. Dragy GPS performance box?
@@BluegrassMike That’s it.
dragymotorsports.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA0rSABhDlARIsAJtjfCfzWQQ8P3vKdHTJwyPcQfLgYpnr2YA6A_J-KTQc7hFaK3jiKTCj5-oaApRXEALw_wcB
What app have you been using???
In this video, I used dragy gps
dragymotorsports.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA0rSABhDlARIsAJtjfCfzWQQ8P3vKdHTJwyPcQfLgYpnr2YA6A_J-KTQc7hFaK3jiKTCj5-oaApRXEALw_wcB
I don't think it's actually switching from 4wd to 2wd while under load. The "4hi" flashing is the truck's way of saying, "waiting for a chance to do that." Doesn't really make any difference, but those first runs were 4 hi the whole way.
I believe you are correct, thanks for watching!
He doesn't beat on his truck, but he knows to launch in 4x4 mode, then switch back to 4x2 mode. It's wild that the Toyota transfer case can switch on the fly at high speeds. I don't believe my Ram will switch above 15-20 mph.
I thought everyone knew that LOL. I tried one launch in 2wd before I started filming and it just spun.
I know I was watching that too, and I was like what the F…
Just added tyres 3.3% higher, raises car 10mm. Not negs, taller gearing is welcome, Australia is large & flat.
How was your mileage effected?
Around town about 2 mpg less but on the highway its the same.
You kept doing better each run with the first tires because tires were warming up every run.
Possibly!
40 lbs per wheel/tire??
Or 40 lbs total for all 4 (10lbs ea)?
40lbs per.
Holy Moley!
I just mounted Falken 205/60r16 A/T Trails on my 205/55r16 Corolla Hatchback & gained 7lbs ea wheel/tire (28lb total gain).
I thought I got fat:)
Each next race you have less weight due to fuel loss, and tires get better traction as they warm up- maybe
Makes sense.
What was the temperature?
I don’t know for sure as this was filmed a year ago but I was probably in the mid 30s
Awesome
Thanks, I had to remove and repost the video because of the music I used.
You doing well Brian 👍
Any word on your new exhaust?
I ordered it January 18th. Should be here any day now.
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS ok. I'll be waiting
And fuel consumption?
Lost about 2.5mpg
a high torque v8 an v6 handles bigger tires better than 4cylinders. on my celica i replaced the stock 15 inch rims an 195/60/r15 with a 16inch rim an 205/50/r16 ventus an my car turned in to a turd
You are correct! I did the same think with a Civic a while back and it felt like I lost half its horsepower.
Was the temperature the same for each day? Density altitude can make a big difference unless it's a turbo truck. 40 lbs per wheel should have been at least .4-.5 slower. That's impressive.
I can’t really remember but the temps should have been real close. I was surprised with the results as well, thanks for watching!
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS yeah something ain't adding up. Can you video weighting both?
@@Nyfloridaboi here you go!
ua-cam.com/video/hJ9cfZaMzZw/v-deo.html
Here is what I know. Anybody who had an M4 and is happy to run 15 sec 1/4's is going backwards. Get the Transam, the mullet and the goldchain and get fast again. Lol
LOL! I plan to get another fast car soon!
Did you mean 40 pounds overall or per wheel
Per wheel
Smiles per gallon!!
Indeed!
Buddy, how are you comfortable taking your hand off the wheel when going that fast? Like i get you're going in a straight line, mistakes are unlikely in that scenario on that road, but they're so unforgiving when you're moving like that
Not saying it’s a good idea and I am by no means a pro but I am pretty relaxed behind the wheel and I have a decent amount of experience driving at high speeds. Thank for your concern!
Time for straightpipe!
I ordered an exhaust last week, hope to have it by the end of the month.
Next time put the truck in tow haul mode bet pull and faster from start
Will do!
I'm a Mopar guy but the fuel economy on the Tundra ain't that bad as far as full size V8 pickups are concerned. Kind of middle of the road. To say it has crappy fuel economy given the gladiator exists is way too harsh on the yota.
It did go down to 12.8mpg with the big tires. I have a ‘21 F150 now with the 2.7L Ecoboost and it gets up to 24mpg.
@PIPSBURGHVIEWS Well yeah but turbo gas trucks like the ecoboost are kind of a different type of truck all together...What you save on gas you may very well spend on walnut blasting your valves or spinning a bearing.
Not sure about the new Toyota V8 but the previous generation was a stupid simple design. It used to be a solid performer with rock solid reliability with okay gas mileage for a full size pickup of the era.
With heavy wheels it is harder to accelerate and stop only, once heavy wheels start moving you don't need as much power to keep rolling as with the light wheels. Basically once heavy wheels start rolling the centrifugal force just keeps them going with less and less effort. You will gain in mpg on long trips vs light wheels but, you will hate heavy wheels for city mpg.
All good points, thanks for watching!
Dude... do NOT swap between 2WD and 4WD under heavy throttle! Not smart!
Also, use Tow Haul mode, will cut a bit of time off your runs as well, just quicker throttle tip in response.
Other people had mentioned the tow haul mode. I am going to have to see if that makes a difference. Thanks for watching!
i was wondering the same bro! smh!
Tell your cousin to run autovlogs truck. Give a good smacking
This is my truck and I intend to!!
It is not the weight you carry but how you carry it...
by Toyota :)
LOL!
1/10th of a second at those speeds is quite a bit, no? I mean, in real world applications it's meaningless. Nice job on this one.
Thanks! In a drag race 1/10th is an eternity but you are right, real world meaningless.
Pritty good
Thanks for watching!
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS !! Omg you responded
@@IndigoOnTopi Of course I do I value my viewers!
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS :) love the intro btw
Thanks, my wife made it.
U barely showed the truck after the new wheels were on 🤦🏽♂️
I made that video a couple weeks ago.
ua-cam.com/video/hJ9cfZaMzZw/v-deo.html
@@PIPSBURGHVIEWS cool
Stealing Mikes test track Brian 😀
LOL, I was just borrowing it, it’s closer to me!
Sorprendentes resultados, pero lo que no será tan sorprendente es el aumento de consumo de combustible !! 🤦♂️🤦♂️