Corporate ministry membership: VKM, Shane,Patterson,Brisco,Slaughter,3 members of the mean street posse,triple h, chyna,rock,shamrock,show,test,kane,taker,apa,mideon,edge,gangrel,christian,paul bearer. 24 members, yet they were never 'too many'.
Damn, that was a SHARP southerly turn at the end. That was a summer slam main event count out ending if I ever seen't it. 😂 I love hearing you guys chop it up. I feel like any one of us could sit down at a bar or at a ballgame and have a beer by you two, jump in the conversation, and if done so respectfully, you two wouldn't miss a beat. That speaks to the people you are. Thanks for the entertainment!
Having a lot of people in the nWo made sense and worked, wasn't a big problem as most people think. It really helped it seem like a big deal that everyone wanted to be a part of it. Having a huge gang really helped sell the power of it. It really was when they brought in people that didn't make sense that kinda ruined things. Dusty, Jarrett and eventually Sting being the big ones for me that just had people shaking their heads as to things not making sense anymore and just losing the last bits of logic to it, guys that just didn't help at all and actually made things worse.
I agree 💯 Ya always hear they got too big, too many members, but like you said it was the "who" ...The quantity of wrestlers weren't the problem like we always hear as the excuse
Even in the Wolfpac, Sting made no sense. He, Bret, and DDP should have been the main WCW guys. I'd probably add Luger to the list too and I actually liked him in nWo.
A lot only makes sense up to a point. I think having 5 is the sweet spot of members and 7 might be the upper-limit. As mentioned: the quality of people is a huge factor and I don't think Virgil and Big Booty Daddy were exactly elevating the group.
@@eschaton7813 Yeah for sure, didn't elevate anything. But so often you hear people say that adding guys like Virgil and Buff Bagwell really brought things down and was the death of the nWo when it wasn't at all. nWo thrived for another year or two with those guys in it, they weren't the problem people nowadays think they were, not even close.
From 96 to 98 i was a huge wcw fan. Sting will always be my all time favorite, i was definitely a fan of wolfpac sting, the red and black was sick! loved Nash and the wolfpac! I still have the red wolf shirt with nwo on the back. To this day I remember my mom ordering starcade 97 and 98. When nash beat goldberg i jumped outta my seat i couldnt stand the goldberg character in general and as great of a bad guy nash was I did enjoy him as a baby face , wish it would have lasted longer. Thanks for the memories nash my 10 to 12 year old self thanks you
Sad that buff has fallen off the sober wagon again. Addiction is a hell of a thing. Even after years of quitting a substance, the memories of how good it made you feel will never go away.
Bagwell claims he wasn’t drunk or on drugs during this arrest. He says he failed to document an out-of-state trip properly, so, they took him in and he was “sanctioned” on his last DUI charge. He says he’s eleven months sober. Let’s hope that’s all true, I guess.
The problem was having wcw guys joining nwo. Hulk made sense, but Giant, Steiner, buff, Scott Norton, Curt Henning, and guys like that should have stayed being WCW to continue the illusion of an invasion.
Curt Hennig (Mr. Perfect) was in in WWF from 1988-1996, debuted in WCW June 97, then joined the NWO 10 weeks later by turning on the Horsemen. I think he was a good candidate for the invasion
@@DeegoL9 And?? Nobody gave a damn about that. He was a glorified jobber in WCW for 90% of his run there. Just a big dude with the personality of a dry mop.
I honestly think Diabase & Virgil were never needed. Konnan good fit. Muta good fit. Norton good fit. Scott Steiner once he got the Big Poppa Pump persona great fit. Waltman was a great fit. I just think since the "takeover Nitro" thing didn't work, I think they should've made a plan to lean out the nWo. Savage worked, but Sting, Luger, & the Giant should've never joined unless they were going to take it down from the inside. I think the best thing, and it would've been amazing TV, would've been for Ted Turner to show up & put the kibosh on it after the nWo gets fractured & ppl start to go their own way such as Hogan, Sting, & Luger turning face again. But Turner still decides there needs to be consequences. Hogan, Luger, & Sting can't wrestle for a title for a couple years. Then since Flair "ran" WCW & got rid of the LWO, but not the nWo, Flair faces the same punishment. Now you have legit reason why these wrestlers can't be anywhere near a title & other talents get a shot & things get refreshed & rejuvenated.
The #1 error nWo made: letting every & any dusty azz, mofo on the roster be in nWo. Should've stayed with the original 3 guys. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
Al Bundy would say: if it is broke, why fix it. ;) But I agree..the nWo got watered down. Buff should have never been in it and Norton should have never been in it and Konnan, just to name a few.
But, Nash should have beaten Goldberg with a clean finish. I’m pretty sure that every major world title match in WCW had a dirty finish. There were always interference, weapons, ref bumps, and…
@@jeffarentNash was a heel. Heels cheat to win. It would have been a complete break with his character for him to honorably refuse to cheat. Plus Goldberg had been booked stronger than anyone had ever been booked in a major promotion. For him to just suddenly lose wouldn’t have made sense. Imo a “dirty cheating heel” win was the only way to not completely violate both characters.
I t would have been awesome if Goldberg and Bret didn’t get injured. The wwf was down on talent so wcw could have got back on top. But I feel like Bret Harts whole purpose in wcw was to destroy it.
Luv how Nash is always saying wcw never had success. They didn’t. But wwe was at its low point when the kliq were in the wwf. Wwf didn’t have success when diesel, razor, etc were there so.
You're misinterpreting his point. Vince and WWE had HAD success from 85/86 - 92 so even while having down years, Vince knew what success looked like and how to navigate it from experience, Eric and WCW did not. And this is coming from a WCW lifelong fan who was there from the beginning in 89 and even for JCP which is what WCW used to be as far as the roster and on air people. Nash is just stating a fact that as a company of new management WCW had never had true success.
The "Doesn't work for me brothers"😂😂
Corporate ministry membership: VKM, Shane,Patterson,Brisco,Slaughter,3 members of the mean street posse,triple h, chyna,rock,shamrock,show,test,kane,taker,apa,mideon,edge,gangrel,christian,paul bearer. 24 members, yet they were never 'too many'.
Bc that group wasn't around for 5 years. Bash at the Beach to NWO 2000. They just couldn't let it go.
Except for the apa and the brood most of those had at least one title reign or achievement in the company coming into that
The Corporate Ministry also wasn't dominating EVERY. SINGLE. SEGMENT.
You forgot about big bossman
Damn, that was a SHARP southerly turn at the end.
That was a summer slam main event count out ending if I ever seen't it. 😂
I love hearing you guys chop it up.
I feel like any one of us could sit down at a bar or at a ballgame and have a beer by you two, jump in the conversation, and if done so respectfully, you two wouldn't miss a beat.
That speaks to the people you are.
Thanks for the entertainment!
Having a lot of people in the nWo made sense and worked, wasn't a big problem as most people think. It really helped it seem like a big deal that everyone wanted to be a part of it. Having a huge gang really helped sell the power of it. It really was when they brought in people that didn't make sense that kinda ruined things. Dusty, Jarrett and eventually Sting being the big ones for me that just had people shaking their heads as to things not making sense anymore and just losing the last bits of logic to it, guys that just didn't help at all and actually made things worse.
I agree 💯
Ya always hear they got too big, too many members, but like you said it was the "who" ...The quantity of wrestlers weren't the problem like we always hear as the excuse
I completely agree!!! Glad I'm not the only one.
Even in the Wolfpac, Sting made no sense. He, Bret, and DDP should have been the main WCW guys. I'd probably add Luger to the list too and I actually liked him in nWo.
A lot only makes sense up to a point. I think having 5 is the sweet spot of members and 7 might be the upper-limit. As mentioned: the quality of people is a huge factor and I don't think Virgil and Big Booty Daddy were exactly elevating the group.
@@eschaton7813 Yeah for sure, didn't elevate anything. But so often you hear people say that adding guys like Virgil and Buff Bagwell really brought things down and was the death of the nWo when it wasn't at all. nWo thrived for another year or two with those guys in it, they weren't the problem people nowadays think they were, not even close.
You could see Nash breaking down about Bagwell. He saw Scott immediately. That hurt that makes you hang your head.
From 96 to 98 i was a huge wcw fan. Sting will always be my all time favorite, i was definitely a fan of wolfpac sting, the red and black was sick!
loved
Nash and the wolfpac!
I still have the red wolf shirt with nwo on the back. To this day
I remember my mom ordering starcade 97 and 98.
When nash beat goldberg i jumped outta my seat i couldnt stand the goldberg character in general and as great of a bad guy nash was
I did enjoy him as a baby face , wish it would have lasted longer.
Thanks for the memories nash my 10 to 12 year old self thanks you
Nash beating Goldberg was the right move, but what happened afterwards was just brutal to watch.
Sad that buff has fallen off the sober wagon again. Addiction is a hell of a thing. Even after years of quitting a substance, the memories of how good it made you feel will never go away.
Sold Out was awesome!
Awesomely bad.
@@perfectblindguy Naa it had good matches, funny announcers and segments and a very unique look.
Bagwell claims he wasn’t drunk or on drugs during this arrest. He says he failed to document an out-of-state trip properly, so, they took him in and he was “sanctioned” on his last DUI charge.
He says he’s eleven months sober.
Let’s hope that’s all true, I guess.
DDP was atleast pretending like it didn't happen in his CVV interview that just dropped.
Buff got lucky it wasn't a Sunny situation.
The problem was having wcw guys joining nwo. Hulk made sense, but Giant, Steiner, buff, Scott Norton, Curt Henning, and guys like that should have stayed being WCW to continue the illusion of an invasion.
Curt Hennig (Mr. Perfect) was in in WWF from 1988-1996, debuted in WCW June 97, then joined the NWO 10 weeks later by turning on the Horsemen. I think he was a good candidate for the invasion
Scotty and buff were awesome but they weren’t wwf guys. But they brought a lot of coolness to the nwo
6 should have been the last member.
They made Grub Patrol shirts in HS after the garbage truck show
nWo should have stayed exclusive, the minute they let anybody in, they were doomed.
Sounds like Eric's more reasonable than Vince Jr.
Sean is right. It was over the minute guys like Scott Norton and Michael Wallstreet got in. Became lame then.
No truer words have ever been spoken in the history of the human language.
Scott Norton was IWGP Champion TF are you on? Lol
@@DeegoL9 And?? Nobody gave a damn about that. He was a glorified jobber in WCW for 90% of his run there. Just a big dude with the personality of a dry mop.
I liked Scott Norton, but he wasn't a good fit for the NWO.
I honestly think Diabase & Virgil were never needed. Konnan good fit. Muta good fit. Norton good fit. Scott Steiner once he got the Big Poppa Pump persona great fit. Waltman was a great fit. I just think since the "takeover Nitro" thing didn't work, I think they should've made a plan to lean out the nWo. Savage worked, but Sting, Luger, & the Giant should've never joined unless they were going to take it down from the inside. I think the best thing, and it would've been amazing TV, would've been for Ted Turner to show up & put the kibosh on it after the nWo gets fractured & ppl start to go their own way such as Hogan, Sting, & Luger turning face again. But Turner still decides there needs to be consequences. Hogan, Luger, & Sting can't wrestle for a title for a couple years. Then since Flair "ran" WCW & got rid of the LWO, but not the nWo, Flair faces the same punishment. Now you have legit reason why these wrestlers can't be anywhere near a title & other talents get a shot & things get refreshed & rejuvenated.
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When everyone joined, it was no longer special.
As soon as buff got brought up I knew Sean was thinking about that $500 😂
(Edit konan took the $500, buff just threaten to beat him up)
I think you mean Konnan $500
@@knightfall209 your right it's buff who threatened to kick his fuck in after coming to and interview drugged out of his head
The #1 error nWo made: letting every & any dusty azz, mofo on the roster be in nWo. Should've stayed with the original 3 guys. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
Al Bundy would say: if it is broke, why fix it. ;)
But I agree..the nWo got watered down. Buff should have never been in it and Norton should have never been in it and Konnan, just to name a few.
no one guy to fight for each title so 5 or 6 guy in total.
NWO 4LIFE
I am so glad that Nash stopped Goldberg's streak. I thoroughly despised Goldberg.
Bret Hart is that you ?
But, Nash should have beaten Goldberg with a clean finish. I’m pretty sure that every major world title match in WCW had a dirty finish. There were always interference, weapons, ref bumps, and…
@@jeffarentNash was a heel. Heels cheat to win. It would have been a complete break with his character for him to honorably refuse to cheat. Plus Goldberg had been booked stronger than anyone had ever been booked in a major promotion. For him to just suddenly lose wouldn’t have made sense. Imo a “dirty cheating heel” win was the only way to not completely violate both characters.
Silver and black was sick. Back to not having everyone in nWo
I t would have been awesome if Goldberg and Bret didn’t get injured. The wwf was down on talent so wcw could have got back on top. But I feel like Bret Harts whole purpose in wcw was to destroy it.
Downfall of WCW was Glacier 😂 Kev who the hell came up with that BS.
EZ E said it was an attempt to attract the kids and the MK demographic, and EZ E said they missed it by a mile and a half.
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I thought it was a previous charge not a new DUI. I'm probably confused maybe I shouldn't think.
N.w.o 2000 black and silver forever
Your crazy
Luv how Nash is always saying wcw never had success. They didn’t. But wwe was at its low point when the kliq were in the wwf. Wwf didn’t have success when diesel, razor, etc were there so.
You're misinterpreting his point. Vince and WWE had HAD success from 85/86 - 92 so even while having down years, Vince knew what success looked like and how to navigate it from experience, Eric and WCW did not. And this is coming from a WCW lifelong fan who was there from the beginning in 89 and even for JCP which is what WCW used to be as far as the roster and on air people. Nash is just stating a fact that as a company of new management WCW had never had true success.
The "easiest way" isn't always the right way Kev, that's something a child would say