That kid was molested and instead of protecting their son, they signed a shut up contract and forced their son to keep quiet for a bunch of hush money, and then when their son started acting out and hurting their daughter and other kids, they did nothing to protect their daughter and paid off the parents of the other kids to keep them quiet. These parents are complete and utter garbage. They basically pimped out their underage son and allowed him to abuse his sister and other innocent kids. They are the exact type of people who shouldn't have children in the first place.
@@JessT-vg7ib First of all, it's not time for me to have kids. I'm only 21 and I'm still in college. Secondly, what does that have to do with anything?
Rich Pedophile: "Let your child stay with me for a few days...have you ever been a millionaire?" Me: "Have you ever been ON LIFE SUPPORT?" Parents are supposed to DEFEND and PROTECT their children. Anyone who suggests the idea of having their way with a child within earshot of me had better have his affairs in order. I live in a desert, I own a shovel and a shotgun. Not even GOOGLE would be able to find what's left.
These parents sicken me. They signed a dodgy document to keep their child quiet just for money. And then instead of using the money to give him the therapy he needs they allow him to self destruct and put other kids including their daughter at risk. It's even worse knowing there are plenty of parents who do this in real life
@@nicholassmith5130 in this episode he was raped by billy. That’s why he acted out so much. His parents quieted him about it so they could keep the money
Of course they did, $4 million is an amount that they will never get in their lifetime if they side with their son. Not to mention the costs for the therapy needed later to fix their son.
@@bursegsardaukarIt doesn’t matter how much money they were paid, a young boys life was ruined, and the parents are disgusting pieces of garbage. No responsible parents would ever tell their kids to be quiet about what happened to them.
@@sweethistortea Happens many times in the third world. Look at those pedophiles that travel all the way to places like Cambodia. Even the Catholic Church had a team of priests that pay the victim’s parents hush money and threatened them with excommunication if they ever go public about their child being molested by a priest.
@@bursegsardaukar There is no amount of money in the world that's more important that the safety of a child. The fact that you're trying to defend the decision of those garbage parents is disgusting and makes me wonder if you're another scumbag like Mr. Billy Boydiddler.
I have a friend who was molested when she was little, around 4 yrs or so. She remembers the physical pain from the encounter, and the emotional pain from being beaten and blamed for it by her mother. She’s well into her 40’s now and she still chokes up and cries when she remembers the incident. Such wounds from childhood never heal.
@@happilyevernever4289please learn to not type out the first imbecilic fallacy that crosses your mind; particularly on a sensitive subject. mo·les·ta·tion noun 1. sexual assault or abuse of a person, especially a child. "he was tried for molestation of two young girls"
@@TheLVJ They are right though. Despite the definition, molestation carries a connotation of inappropriate touching. Penetration is a greater and more vile thing that should be called what it is. "Molest" minimizes the inhumanity of the thing
Not all kids since many people deal with traumas differently, but some do. I dealt with it by being afraid of men for a long time. I got mental health help but many people can’t or don’t
@@kopawhite1399 She sounds like a good woman. That is the appropriate response. Not "Let's get some real money from our kid's attacker, who care if they've been scarred for life?"
I know they have misplaced priorities. They are feeling helpless, trapped, and lacking a moral compass. You need to focus on loving your child and believing everything they tell you. You never put yourself above your children, ever! I know because I worked in child welfare for almost 12 years and saw my fair share of vile cases such as this one.
I remember this episode well. More screentime should've been invested to confront the parents, I would've love to see Stabler roughing up the dad till a breaking point and he admits what happened.
The parents are monsters. How are they allowed to keep custody of their kids? They should have been charged with something like endangering the welfare of a child.
Really? You're outraged that the parents on a fictional TV show weren't charged with something? I guess you're probably also outraged that Rose wasn't charged with manslaughter for not letting Jack on the door in Titanic.
The child actor who played this kid had to have gone through therapy after this role. To actually play it so well, you have to grasp something in you that gives this kind of performance.
Fact: in the ending the father and mother moved the kid out of state to keep him from testifying and the father was held in contempt as he still refused to give up the boys location and the lawyer who was appointed to look After his sons best interest was determined to keep the father in jail until he gave in
That would have been me If I had let it go that long That dad figured out his screw up and knew it was time to fix it, not put kid thru more trauma The boy can get help he needs privately and the mom n sister also. The state certainly wasn’t going to help at all. Those “experts” are help to anyone. Maybe dad gets out, maybe not. He finally sees his son is most important so he is willing to stay.
I remember that actor. He won that Disney Channel contest in 2005 for a guest role on That’s So Raven. They aired those commercials a dozen times a day. I couldn’t place him at first until I looked it up. Shane Haboucha
I won’t lie that is a tempting offer very tempting but if I had to choose between my child’s well-being and twice that much money I’ll go for my child’s well-being no question
@@fantasy-writer-v5zI totally agree. In the words of Reginald VelJohnson: "I can't shave w/ my eyes closed." What he meant by that is that nobody ever wants to look into the mirror, & find a criminal staring right back.
Greed is one of the most powerful sins in the universe and it can easily corrupt your soul into getting what you want when really it brings suffering to those around you.
"Don't blame THEM. They didn't make me do this." The hurt, annoyance, and DISGUST in his voice and eyes at his father as he blatantly lies about what could be the cause of his behavior when he KNOWS the real cause but wants to ignore it and play pretend family. Great actor, but so sad this is a reality for too many in life. They didn't just potentially destroy their son, they put their other child in danger and made him a threat to others in his surroundings not only hiding it, but refusing to get him help, even if off the record. Disgusting.
“You don’t understand! I’m not allowed to talk about it!” The way he just stands up and goes from 1 to 100, knocking stuff over, was truly a child screaming and hurting inside. And since he didn’t know what else to do with those intense emotions and trauma, he really did impulsively want the world to burn and suffer with him. It doesn’t excuse that he’s hurt others but all the blame isn’t on him but all on his parents for betraying him. I don’t get how parents can sleep at night being aware what’s happened to their kid like that.
This reminds me of the gymnast, whose parents accepted that money when that doctor was inappropriately touching their kid and others, and went on to do it again. That whole thing made me sick.
@@briannamarz9343 Thats even worse. When you defend and encourage bad behaviour with "but the kid went through so much" the kid learns that is ok to hurt people when you had trauma. Its one of the worst things you can teach a child.
There was a kid in my high school who violently threatened me in a very horrific way and I reported him to the principal, he got in huge trouble even the teachers got on him. But also, he got help, they sent him with the school psychologist, the principal became his friend and he apologized to me. He became my good friend afterwards also, never ever said anything negative to me again. He was a good guy, he just held a lot in. He also told me how his little brothers, parents and pet dogs got on his nerves everyday and he had no peace in his home
Did that kid try to physically hurt you? Because if not then the kid shouldn't have gotten in trouble right? Because behavior problems aren't a crime. Also have a good day.
He got no peace at home and everyone got on his nerves 🤐. That is no excuse for "violently threatening someone in an horrific way". Bullying is not exceptable & fair play to the school for taking action. Behaviour problems mightened be a crime but there are some cases in some circumstances where the situation "at home" got out of control & the child not only harmed the family but then proceeded on to school where they committed further crimes. At least by being reported he got help.
@@thefighter5182If someone verbally told you they want to torture you, mutilate you and burn you alive, would you think they shouldn't get in trouble because they didn't try to physically hurt you?
@@thefighter5182 You can commit crime without physically hurting someone. Threatening someone, getting confrontational with them.. Those are crimes. I don't know what you're talking about here.
Does anybody else want them to revisit this because I do. Especially with JJ and seeing what happened to him. Knowing that he did not need to keep quiet, and that contract was garbage his parents signed just to get money. I would love to see a grown up JJ walk into the Squad as a new detective because SVU were the only people who realized he had a problem and actively tried to help him.
Not to mention the episode ends with Stabler confident that they'll be able to lock up that creep one day. A nice follow up could be that the father ends up brutally beaten or killed, with a grown up JJ deciding to just kill Billy and his mom since the law is unable to make any progress. But on the "bright side", his little sister ends up becoming a good person (and maybe a mother who is far better than her own).
I would be upset too if my parents accepted hush money from my abuser. His parents are absolutely disgusting, it’s so inhumane what they let the abuser do to their OWN kid.
I really miss this era of SVU with Elliot. They went with some dark but also realistic cases that really packed a emotional punch that the later seasons never really managed to recapture.
I've never watched this show, but it's clear the psychologist was the only one who realised the child was being abused because of how "adult" he was acting. I feel like if a little girl was acting out the same way, the detectives would've figured it out too. This is how sexually abused children act.
This is one of the saddest episodes in my opinion. And the lady who planted "evidence" that basically made the guy walk free so they had no choice but to wait for the next victim. I understand wanting to catch these guys but the other guardian who planted evidence fucked the whole investigation up. Uhg. It saddens me that stuff like this happens too and then look at the system vs the tv. I know there are good and bad cops/detectives but let them do their job theyll find what they need to put these guys away as best they can. The good ones anyway
@@LadyBern I honestly don't remember if she did it for the money. I just remember her saying she wanted to catch the guy. But doing that doesn't help anybody. I'll have to rewatch it
@@lucy-louthebeagle4511 I went over the recap. Yeah it combined the MJ Neverland ranch thing and bits of the Blanchard case with the severe Munchausen by proxy or just a scammer. It wasn't that she was doing it to put a sick man in jail she was sick and craved the attention and money they got for being the parent/guardian of a victim.
@LadyBern oh wow. I don't remember that. Definitely going to rewatch it! I do remember even without the lady involved there was mixes of other stuff involved
This episode was based on the late Michael Jackson and the story behind it was that Mr. Tripley who is a toymaker, has frequent visits from children and as a result, he has his own room called the treasure chest. In the end, A mother and her son attempted to blackmail Mr. Tripley by planting evidence which would backfire. But the character's father in the episode, would be in jail indefinitely and the son would be sent to another state with stabler stating, 'we will get him'
Not too split hairs but it was a Grand Mother and Grand Daughter who tried to blackmail Mr Tripley but it worse as the Grand Mother ws poisoning her Grand Daughter to look like she suffered from leukemia. That ending though where Mr Tripley is having a party to celebrate being cleared of charges surrounded by kids is haunting.
It's absurd that "Billy" didn't end up at Riker's Island because of his wealth, the justice need to be impartial it simply cannot be bought on the expense of Heroes, Legends or Loved Ones.
This episode was such a bummer. Once they get the billionaire guy in custody JJ’s lawyer produces this video of JJ(the kid) recanting the allegation and saying he lied, then he disappears. The Dad refuses to tell the detectives where JJ is and is put in jail under contempt of court. JJ is eventually found in Maine with an uncle but before they can arrest the uncle and get JJ they flee across the border into Canada. Another little girl with cancer claims she was abused by Billy, but it ends up being that her Grandmother had been poisoning her to make it look like she had cancer and forced her to lie about the abuse for money. The grandmother, the little girls only family member, is put in prison and the girl is put in foster care. The end of the episode is especially sick, it ends with Billy throwing a big party at his mansion for all these little kids, and Stabler and Olivia just have to watch as this guy is being hugged by all these kids. It’s such a bummer episode.
And possibly worst of all, and as Novak puts it, Billy (the millionaire guy) can now claim false accusations to any child with a legitimate claim of abuse at his hands.
Never let your kids stay at anybody and everybody's house. Friend or no friend, boss or no boss. You'd be surprised how many kids have come out as adults about their parents' friends abusing them sexually, verbally, physically, emotionally, psychologicaly and sometimes all five. How many more kids have to be added to this list before parents get the message? How many?
That’s hardly fair. While yes it’s true that kids are far more likely to be hurt by someone they know than a stranger, not every trusted adult is doing this nor can we keep kids in a bubble. Kids deserve to have sleepovers with friends and spend time with relatives and family friends without mom and dad. The only solution is to teach kids to look for red flags and for parents to also spot red flags and make themselves safe people for kids to confide in.
@@pisces2569no they don't need sleepovers. For what? Why risk it? That's what those parents did and look what happened. Stop putting their lives at risk. You can be happy without sleepovers. Signs don't help
Can’t punish what you can’t prove. With the witness gone they can’t have a trial. At best they would hold the dad until the kid comes back and the trial can begin but it never happened.
Where is DCFS/CPS in all of this? They should have taken protective custody and the girl should have talked to a child advocate because the cops are not trained in these types of situations.
@@jerryfiore5818 That 11 minute clip told me what I needed to know about their process. There is nothing to extrapolate because I do not have their known data. I know what is supposed to happen but not all departments follow the rules. My comment stands as correct.
10:02 “And if they’re not I always get permission over the telephone” 10:08 “All the time, what’s wrong with that.” I could just be seeing what I want to see, but Will Keenan’s acting here is so subtle but cool. His expression and way of saying the lines sounds more like a child trying to be assertive, pretending to be an adult than an actual adult. As if he’s a toddler on the naughty step trying to explain why the toilets clogged and the disappearance of his dad’s keys aren’t connected…
Adults who allow a child to have access to a child molester knowing their disease exists is guilty of child neglect, human trafficking, and negligence.
I am not calling it neglect or human trafficking because what the parents did sounds worse than that because they allowed it deliberately. I call it betrayal; betrayal of the child’s trust they had for their parents a to love and protect them from such a thing
This makes me want to cry. I never experienced this, but it's horrible. No child should go through this. Why can't active pedophiles understand the harm they cause ?
I would have thought that the teacher’s would have at LEAST tried to get him in school therapy, or have some record of talking to the parents about it. Hypersexuality/violence is a major sign of SA.
@@bellaknightR597 pretty sure he is heavily inspired from MJ while not trying to look exactly like him to avoid a real lawsuit. They both even have the similar allegations even if he didn't look like him.
The fucked up thing is, with the context, it is possible that the parents did not so much care about their sons wellbeing as they wanted him not to to be in a position in which his motivation to talk outweighed his fear of his parents.
This Kid reminds me of myself when I was his age thank God At least one of my Parents were Decent enough to Get me help. I had a lot of people in my life Help me out of it and now I'm doing Better. It's never too late for these kids man they just need to want change. They need to desire to grow and be better. Give them a reason.
The parents were the reason the guy got away because they ran away and hid their son who is the only witness to the case I’m guessing they got bribed again. So the trial got dismissed ( I think ).
When an airsoft group I played with accused me of stealing money (and had nothing but suspicions), rather than even think of speaking in defense of me, my old man went off on me and ordered me to pretty much accept responsibility for it. So yeah, what this kid's parents did doesn't surprise me in the slightest. You'd think your own flesh and blood would always stand up for you, but it turns out that even they're capable of betraying you.
Very important that everyone know this! No contract or NDA can be used to cover up a crime or keep someone silent about a crime. If you are aware of a crime that was committed, but signed a privacy contract or NDA, that contract becomes null and void in that regard. You not only have the legal right to speak up without repercussion, but you have a moral obligation to speak up. No one can use a contract to keep a victim quiet. They may try. But they won’t. If it goes to court, there are many victim advocacy groups who ensure victims are represented, aren’t bribed or scared into complacency and keeping quiet, and to prevent pressures being put on them, both emotional, social, and financial. Some perpetrators will try to use contracts to punish someone for speaking up or to try and keep them quiet. “I’ll sue you if you speak up” etc. Just reach out to a victims advocacy group and they can help navigate you through the legal system when NDA’s and privacy contracts are involved and someone is trying to use those to keep people quiet about said crime.
This is exactly why I never was excited about turning 18. Everyone believes turning 18 is a big deal. No expects a kid to be a school shooter or a harm towards others for no other reason besides the kid being under 18. If you are 17, people don’t see you capable of harming others. If you are 18 or above then they consider the possibility that this person can cause harm. I don’t give children the benefiting of any doubt just because they are under 18 or elementary school children. There is a strong possibility that someone can be a harm towards others. That is why people often fail to detect school shooters or other type of kids who can cause harm: They don’t think a kid or a kid under 18 is capable of doing so; so they would turn a blind eye. I have 3 baby cousins and they behave all time and hardly ever cause trouble. Does that mean I will ignore the possibility that they could one day be a threat just because they behave under my watch all the time? No. I prefer to keep an open mind and possibilities open. It’s always those you least expect that can leave you surprised and who you don’t see coming; that why someone being under 18 doesn’t work on me; they are still capable of doing harm. Those under 18 do the crime then they do the time.
I've never met anyone who thinks a 17 year old "isn't capable of harming others." Just because the law defines adulthood as 18+, that doesn't mean anyone thinks that people under 18 can't cause harm. Literally no one thinks that. Even under the law, minors are frequently charged as adults if the crime is severe.
@@JJ-yc2svoh really? Tell that to Vaughn. A teenage girl had been posting mixes of herself online and many people are attacking that dumb teen girl for it. Stacey Vaughn in the other hand says that the girl does know any better because she below 18. She said that herself. Old classmates I found did a predator bust of a guy they once knew in highschool. He did something no one expected. He was 16 and made an 11 year old give him a blow job. We discovered it after a pedophile bust when he was yrs later 23 trying to meet with a 13 year old. His parents excused him when he was 16. You honestly think that no one actually thinks what I just pointed out? Because guess what, they do!!!
@@JJ-yc2sv tell that about an 11 year old psycho who killed his own sister all because of cookies. No one bothered to look into him just because he was 11.
@@francostevo9939 What are you even talking about? They obviously DID "look into him" or it never would've been known that he'd done anything. Everyone knows that children are plenty capable of harming others. Have you never heard the common phrase "kids can be so cruel" ? Also, don't think I didn't notice that you tried to use an 11 year old as evidence of your claim about 17 year olds. Even if he truly had been overlooked, that wouldn't support the claim you made. Where is your evidence of people thinking that 17 year olds are "incapable of harming others" ? The fact that juvenile detention centers exist is proof that, as a society, we recognize that children can and do harm others.
No amount of money would keep me from seeing a predator be locked up if it was my child. I know this is just a show, however, I wouldn’t doubt if that hasn’t happened before.
I remember this one. The dad hides JJ somewhere and without JJ testifying against him, Billy is acquitted. He throws a pajama party with a bunch of kids to celebrate at the end.
Some parents excuse and defend their children's bad behavior and negative actions, including bullying, abusing, and stealing. Some trust the wrong people. Both of these people deserve punishment.
This character Billy was most probably inspired by allegations against Michael Jackson. Some of the details were changed, but the parallel is unmistakable.
More of a sociopath rather than a psychopath. Psychopaths are usually born without a conscious, sociopaths are bred from environments of abuse and neglect.
I know a kid like him. He’s 6, his dad is creepy and his mom doesn’t do anything just afraid. They divorced and the kid got worse. He’s not allowed to be around other kids not the schools in the area for hurting kids. He would fight and rage. He got kicked out at 4 or 5 I think. I moved so idk how he is now but this made me think of him
He was in the the music video "Stacy's Mom". I use watch the music video all the time, because I had a little crush on him. I was like seven or eight at the time.
That kid was molested and instead of protecting their son, they signed a shut up contract and forced their son to keep quiet for a bunch of hush money, and then when their son started acting out and hurting their daughter and other kids, they did nothing to protect their daughter and paid off the parents of the other kids to keep them quiet.
These parents are complete and utter garbage. They basically pimped out their underage son and allowed him to abuse his sister and other innocent kids. They are the exact type of people who shouldn't have children in the first place.
time to start having kids 😀
@@JessT-vg7ib ??
@@JessT-vg7ib First of all, it's not time for me to have kids. I'm only 21 and I'm still in college.
Secondly, what does that have to do with anything?
u should use that college brain of urs to pick up on the joke i made@@mask938
Rich Pedophile: "Let your child stay with me for a few days...have you ever been a millionaire?"
Me: "Have you ever been ON LIFE SUPPORT?"
Parents are supposed to DEFEND and PROTECT their children. Anyone who suggests the idea of having their way with a child within earshot of me had better have his affairs in order. I live in a desert, I own a shovel and a shotgun. Not even GOOGLE would be able to find what's left.
The actor playing this kid is ALARMINGLY good at sounding like an angry adult: excellent acting!
I agree with that!
He is the kid from Stacys Mom music video.
@@mountainous_port I could NOT figure out why he looked so familiar. Finally had to go track down his name to figure that out.
@jackwells8107 what is his name?
@@xak999 Shane Haboucha
This boy is doomed. His parents didn't protect him, no one has helped him cope with his trauma, and this kid is angry at the wrong people.
He will get help now, and it’s not too late.
@@RLucas3000 One can only hope, but even the helped don't recover.
@@roguejester4986yes they can
His actions weren't justified but completely understandable.
@@Darth234Ravenous Yep.
These parents sicken me. They signed a dodgy document to keep their child quiet just for money.
And then instead of using the money to give him the therapy he needs they allow him to self destruct and put other kids including their daughter at risk.
It's even worse knowing there are plenty of parents who do this in real life
For parents to defend their children's negative actions and behavior, including being bullies, they must face the consequences.
They didn't get him therapy b/c if he discloses abuse by law in NYS the therapist has to report it to the police.
Also, the kid lied, the kid was never touched, and the parents blackmailed the guy to force it
@@erikafigueroa5128yep and then good old mom and dad were like ohhh but then we’d lose our money. 🙄
@@nicholassmith5130 in this episode he was raped by billy. That’s why he acted out so much. His parents quieted him about it so they could keep the money
Those people sold out their own kid, they care more about the money rather than their son being sexually abused. It really infuriates me.
Of course they did, $4 million is an amount that they will never get in their lifetime if they side with their son. Not to mention the costs for the therapy needed later to fix their son.
@@bursegsardaukarIt doesn’t matter how much money they were paid, a young boys life was ruined, and the parents are disgusting pieces of garbage. No responsible parents would ever tell their kids to be quiet about what happened to them.
@@sweethistortea Happens many times in the third world. Look at those pedophiles that travel all the way to places like Cambodia. Even the Catholic Church had a team of priests that pay the victim’s parents hush money and threatened them with excommunication if they ever go public about their child being molested by a priest.
@@bursegsardaukar There is no amount of money in the world that's more important that the safety of a child. The fact that you're trying to defend the decision of those garbage parents is disgusting and makes me wonder if you're another scumbag like Mr. Billy Boydiddler.
Please tell me the parents got arrested too. This can’t be the end of it.
I have a friend who was molested when she was little, around 4 yrs or so. She remembers the physical pain from the encounter, and the emotional pain from being beaten and blamed for it by her mother. She’s well into her 40’s now and she still chokes up and cries when she remembers the incident.
Such wounds from childhood never heal.
You never forget this pain no matter how much therapy you go to. It's torture
That sounds like grape, not molestation
@@happilyevernever4289please learn to not type out the first imbecilic fallacy that crosses your mind; particularly on a sensitive subject.
mo·les·ta·tion
noun
1.
sexual assault or abuse of a person, especially a child.
"he was tried for molestation of two young girls"
@@TheLVJ They are right though. Despite the definition, molestation carries a connotation of inappropriate touching. Penetration is a greater and more vile thing that should be called what it is. "Molest" minimizes the inhumanity of the thing
@@AlfieHolter420comparing sexual abuse doesn't help anyone trust me, you're being weird
Outbursts of anger, violent tendencies. This young man is a good actor. These are things children do when they are being abused (in any way)
Not all kids since many people deal with traumas differently, but some do. I dealt with it by being afraid of men for a long time. I got mental health help but many people can’t or don’t
@@ardenalexa94 yes, I don’t like being in a room with a closed door if I can help it. It makes me nervous. I was a victim of SA
My mom always said that if someone had touched me or my brothers, there is NO dollar amount that would make her forget that.
My aunt once said "I would do to them what Bane did to Batman (Broke the Bat) if they touched us"
@@kopawhite1399 She sounds like a good woman. That is the appropriate response. Not "Let's get some real money from our kid's attacker, who care if they've been scarred for life?"
If only all parents thought that way
You have a good mom protecting you and listening to you
Every mom should protect their child like that.
Why is it that parents always care more about the child that's being abusive rather than the child that's being abused?
I think it's a misguided attempt to protect the troubled child.
I know they have misplaced priorities. They are feeling helpless, trapped, and lacking a moral compass. You need to focus on loving your child and believing everything they tell you. You never put yourself above your children, ever! I know because I worked in child welfare for almost 12 years and saw my fair share of vile cases such as this one.
"my baaaby would NEVER"
@@harryshriver6223 thank you so very much for your work.
@@feraltaco4783 You are welcome 😊
If I had a son with issues like that, I wouldn’t ignore them. I’d do my best to make sure he’d get the help he’d need
Problem is if they do the authorities find out they kept quiet about letting their son be raped.
@@Illier1 yep, I hate parents like that.
much less obvious in real life, nor as easily disclosed
I will never understand why any parent would choose money over their children.
Greed, hubris, simple evil.
Desperation
Don’t understand it. Condemn it.
They can always make more kids but a pay-off of that size only ever comes around once.
Greed it the root of all evil and it comes in all but it has a price which harms the innocent in it's path😭🥺☹️
I remember this episode well. More screentime should've been invested to confront the parents, I would've love to see Stabler roughing up the dad till a breaking point and he admits what happened.
Technically illegal as Intimidation can be cause for coercion
@@scarlightemperor3410 Which didn't stop Stabler from doing it multiple times across the show.
@@j.albuquerque9274 yeah, I know. I just pointed it out. Not throwing Shade. Shows just fiction so just pointing it out.
@@scarlightemperor3410 That's the point, it's fiction.....
@@j.albuquerque9274 Yeah that's why Stabler was always under review by Tucker/IAB. 😆
The kid who played JJ is excellent. I either feel sorry for him or he scares me.
The parents are monsters. How are they allowed to keep custody of their kids? They should have been charged with something like endangering the welfare of a child.
Really? You're outraged that the parents on a fictional TV show weren't charged with something? I guess you're probably also outraged that Rose wasn't charged with manslaughter for not letting Jack on the door in Titanic.
@@PluralArch What a salient argument.
@@PluralArchthat argument is so stupid. This isn’t fictional like LOTR, these are things that can happen to children in rl.
@@ashebennett7726and they’re still happening and this episode/season is 20 yrs old
@PluralArch It doesn’t get stupider than this comment
Whoever played this kid back in those early years of law and order is a phenomenal actor.
Shane houbaca. He was in Stacy's mom music video
The child actor who played this kid had to have gone through therapy after this role. To actually play it so well, you have to grasp something in you that gives this kind of performance.
Fact: in the ending the father and mother moved the kid out of state to keep him from testifying and the father was held in contempt as he still refused to give up the boys location and the lawyer who was appointed to look
After his sons best interest was determined to keep the father in jail until he gave in
That would have been me
If I had let it go that long
That dad figured out his screw up and knew it was time to fix it, not put kid thru more trauma
The boy can get help he needs privately and the mom n sister also. The state certainly wasn’t going to help at all. Those “experts” are help to anyone.
Maybe dad gets out, maybe not. He finally sees his son is most important so he is willing to stay.
@YeshuaKingMessiah not at all dad just didn't want to give up his cash cow😂
I remember that actor. He won that Disney Channel contest in 2005 for a guest role on That’s So Raven. They aired those commercials a dozen times a day. I couldn’t place him at first until I looked it up. Shane Haboucha
He was also the boy in the Stacy's Mom music video
Lol..... SINGING...in the hallway
He played the hall monitor right?
@@Starfire10982 yup and one of the kids who almost got the role was the kid who later played Ned on Ned’s Declassified.
@@lutherwalker7639 😂😂🤣🤣 yup.
The parents didn't help their son because his suffering was their $4,000,000 gain.
Disgusting how his parents caved into greed like that.
I won’t lie that is a tempting offer very tempting but if I had to choose between my child’s well-being and twice that much money I’ll go for my child’s well-being no question
@@fantasy-writer-v5zI totally agree. In the words of Reginald VelJohnson: "I can't shave w/ my eyes closed."
What he meant by that is that nobody ever wants to look into the mirror, & find a criminal staring right back.
Greed is one of the most powerful sins in the universe and it can easily corrupt your soul into getting what you want when really it brings suffering to those around you.
I loved how Olivia calmed the little girl. In this scene Olivia has savage moments
I think it was her daughter.
"Don't blame THEM. They didn't make me do this."
The hurt, annoyance, and DISGUST in his voice and eyes at his father as he blatantly lies about what could be the cause of his behavior when he KNOWS the real cause but wants to ignore it and play pretend family.
Great actor, but so sad this is a reality for too many in life.
They didn't just potentially destroy their son, they put their other child in danger and made him a threat to others in his surroundings not only hiding it, but refusing to get him help, even if off the record. Disgusting.
Can we also appreciate B.D. Wong's acting that's just *spot on* every time?
Fantastic actor
Wait... that's the guy who played Henry Wu in the _Jurassic Park_ films!
And Shang in Mulan
@@chasehedges6775 Holy cow! That was him?!
@@E-102GammaMKIIYup, & "Dr. Hugo Strange" in "Gotham"
"That's what I said, Moron." Lol, fuckin classic. He's the kid from the "Stacy's Mom" video byFountains of Wayne
I KNEW he looked familiar!
@@WeirdLady-pv8ilsame! I was wondering
Lmfao for real, when I saw this episode I was like “hey that’s the Stacy’s Mom kid.”
Awwwww man….
She’s all I want and I waited for so long.
“You don’t understand! I’m not allowed to talk about it!”
The way he just stands up and goes from 1 to 100, knocking stuff over, was truly a child screaming and hurting inside. And since he didn’t know what else to do with those intense emotions and trauma, he really did impulsively want the world to burn and suffer with him.
It doesn’t excuse that he’s hurt others but all the blame isn’t on him but all on his parents for betraying him. I don’t get how parents can sleep at night being aware what’s happened to their kid like that.
This reminds me of the gymnast, whose parents accepted that money when that doctor was inappropriately touching their kid and others, and went on to do it again. That whole thing made me sick.
Encouraging and defending bad behavior and action will only end badly.
if you knew what his parents put him through youd understand
@@briannamarz9343 Thats even worse. When you defend and encourage bad behaviour with "but the kid went through so much" the kid learns that is ok to hurt people when you had trauma. Its one of the worst things you can teach a child.
@briannamarz9343 what his parents put him through? What about his abuser?
There was a kid in my high school who violently threatened me in a very horrific way and I reported him to the principal, he got in huge trouble even the teachers got on him. But also, he got help, they sent him with the school psychologist, the principal became his friend and he apologized to me. He became my good friend afterwards also, never ever said anything negative to me again. He was a good guy, he just held a lot in. He also told me how his little brothers, parents and pet dogs got on his nerves everyday and he had no peace in his home
Did that kid try to physically hurt you? Because if not then the kid shouldn't have gotten in trouble right? Because behavior problems aren't a crime. Also have a good day.
He got no peace at home and everyone got on his nerves 🤐. That is no excuse for "violently threatening someone in an horrific way". Bullying is not exceptable & fair play to the school for taking action. Behaviour problems mightened be a crime but there are some cases in some circumstances where the situation "at home" got out of control & the child not only harmed the family but then proceeded on to school where they committed further crimes. At least by being reported he got help.
@@thefighter5182If someone verbally told you they want to torture you, mutilate you and burn you alive, would you think they shouldn't get in trouble because they didn't try to physically hurt you?
@@blueberryoatmeal4009Indeed, b/c those words would be red flags showing that he does have some kind of problem & needs help.
@@thefighter5182 You can commit crime without physically hurting someone. Threatening someone, getting confrontational with them.. Those are crimes. I don't know what you're talking about here.
The child actor does a REALLY good job. Holy hell.
Does anybody else want them to revisit this because I do. Especially with JJ and seeing what happened to him. Knowing that he did not need to keep quiet, and that contract was garbage his parents signed just to get money. I would love to see a grown up JJ walk into the Squad as a new detective because SVU were the only people who realized he had a problem and actively tried to help him.
He got to hook up with Rachel Hunter. It's all good!
Not to mention the episode ends with Stabler confident that they'll be able to lock up that creep one day. A nice follow up could be that the father ends up brutally beaten or killed, with a grown up JJ deciding to just kill Billy and his mom since the law is unable to make any progress. But on the "bright side", his little sister ends up becoming a good person (and maybe a mother who is far better than her own).
They basically took the route of "how can we base this off Micheal Jackson without actually explicitly say it was Micheal Jackson?"
Yes. It was so obvious. They even used some of MJs actual words when he was accused.
My thought exactly! And the actor looks somehow like him!
Exactly
I was just thinking that. Like when I first saw him I instantly thought of MJ and the whole plot too.
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Feel like the “parents” should be put on the Registry as a consequence. They preyed on their own kid’s suffering for monetary gain.
I would be upset too if my parents accepted hush money from my abuser. His parents are absolutely disgusting, it’s so inhumane what they let the abuser do to their OWN kid.
I really miss this era of SVU with Elliot. They went with some dark but also realistic cases that really packed a emotional punch that the later seasons never really managed to recapture.
Sad how they set their kid up to be abused
Horrible parenting aside, Ice T had me rolling in this one! 😂
Ice t?
@@nickyricardo7034thats his name
@@nickyricardo7034The black dude with the ponytail. 😐
The "booty" comment was so unnecessary 🤣😂
wow the kid actor is good
I've never watched this show, but it's clear the psychologist was the only one who realised the child was being abused because of how "adult" he was acting. I feel like if a little girl was acting out the same way, the detectives would've figured it out too. This is how sexually abused children act.
See, I felt like the SVU people knew too. That’s why they were pushing for Bellview over juvie
Oh, they picked up on it. But they're detectives, not psychologists. It's not their lane. They did the appropriate thing by referring him to Bellview.
This is one of the saddest episodes in my opinion. And the lady who planted "evidence" that basically made the guy walk free so they had no choice but to wait for the next victim. I understand wanting to catch these guys but the other guardian who planted evidence fucked the whole investigation up. Uhg. It saddens me that stuff like this happens too and then look at the system vs the tv. I know there are good and bad cops/detectives but let them do their job theyll find what they need to put these guys away as best they can. The good ones anyway
Wasn't she doing it for the money? Like the Gypsy Rose Blanchard case.
@@LadyBern I honestly don't remember if she did it for the money. I just remember her saying she wanted to catch the guy. But doing that doesn't help anybody. I'll have to rewatch it
@@lucy-louthebeagle4511 I went over the recap. Yeah it combined the MJ Neverland ranch thing and bits of the Blanchard case with the severe Munchausen by proxy or just a scammer. It wasn't that she was doing it to put a sick man in jail she was sick and craved the attention and money they got for being the parent/guardian of a victim.
@LadyBern oh wow. I don't remember that. Definitely going to rewatch it! I do remember even without the lady involved there was mixes of other stuff involved
This episode was based on the late Michael Jackson and the story behind it was that Mr. Tripley who is a toymaker, has frequent visits from children and as a result, he has his own room called the treasure chest. In the end, A mother and her son attempted to blackmail Mr. Tripley by planting evidence which would backfire. But the character's father in the episode, would be in jail indefinitely and the son would be sent to another state with stabler stating, 'we will get him'
I wondered why the guy looked like Michael Jackson
Not too split hairs but it was a Grand Mother and Grand Daughter who tried to blackmail Mr Tripley but it worse as the Grand Mother ws poisoning her Grand Daughter to look like she suffered from leukemia. That ending though where Mr Tripley is having a party to celebrate being cleared of charges surrounded by kids is haunting.
@@MikeMJPMUNCHat least I was on course
Didn't the child in question go to live with relatives in Canada rather than another US state.
@@stellargamer4852you think that guy looks like Michael Jackson.
It's absurd that "Billy" didn't end up at Riker's Island because of his wealth, the justice need to be impartial it simply cannot be bought on the expense of Heroes, Legends or Loved Ones.
The case was botched by a woman who was poisoning her granddaughter and faking her abuse. Not to mention the Oslos witness tampering.
This kid sounds like a wise guy….from the old movies.
With his trauma?
I think they meant more like from an old mob movie@@roguejester4986
@@roguejester4986 Yes. That has nothing to do with OP's comment.
This episode was such a bummer. Once they get the billionaire guy in custody JJ’s lawyer produces this video of JJ(the kid) recanting the allegation and saying he lied, then he disappears. The Dad refuses to tell the detectives where JJ is and is put in jail under contempt of court. JJ is eventually found in Maine with an uncle but before they can arrest the uncle and get JJ they flee across the border into Canada. Another little girl with cancer claims she was abused by Billy, but it ends up being that her Grandmother had been poisoning her to make it look like she had cancer and forced her to lie about the abuse for money. The grandmother, the little girls only family member, is put in prison and the girl is put in foster care. The end of the episode is especially sick, it ends with Billy throwing a big party at his mansion for all these little kids, and Stabler and Olivia just have to watch as this guy is being hugged by all these kids. It’s such a bummer episode.
So disgusting especially when you realise this actually probably does happen in real life. I hope for the worst for all these sick people.
And possibly worst of all, and as Novak puts it, Billy (the millionaire guy) can now claim false accusations to any child with a legitimate claim of abuse at his hands.
Why would JJ’s lawyer show a video of him recanting his statement?
@@MunroMcLarencuz that lawyer is working for billy the billionaire.
The child actor is Shane Ashton Haboucha, from the music video for Stacy's Mom by Fountains of Wayne! He's 24 years old now!
$4,000,000. I think most of us would be surprised by how many parents would sign that 'contract'.
Yes, satan has more and more whores...
I wouldn’t if anything I’ll be in jail for breaking his face
Never let your kids stay at anybody and everybody's house. Friend or no friend, boss or no boss. You'd be surprised how many kids have come out as adults about their parents' friends abusing them sexually, verbally, physically, emotionally, psychologicaly and sometimes all five. How many more kids have to be added to this list before parents get the message? How many?
That’s hardly fair. While yes it’s true that kids are far more likely to be hurt by someone they know than a stranger, not every trusted adult is doing this nor can we keep kids in a bubble. Kids deserve to have sleepovers with friends and spend time with relatives and family friends without mom and dad. The only solution is to teach kids to look for red flags and for parents to also spot red flags and make themselves safe people for kids to confide in.
@@pisces2569no they don't need sleepovers. For what? Why risk it? That's what those parents did and look what happened. Stop putting their lives at risk. You can be happy without sleepovers. Signs don't help
@AS-wj1du When your kids sneak out constantly because you think sleepovers are dangerous you have no one to blame but yourself.
@@AS-wj1duthats why kids sneak out
@@AS-wj1duyou are so ungodly paranoid dude, Jesus fucking christ
Not only did April's grandmother make it incredibly difficult to prosecute this monster, she was slowly killing her own granddaughter for money.
yeah and she almost got away with it.
This kid killed this acting job there ain’t no other way to put it he’s talentef
Oh man, no wonder this poor kid is so screwed up🥺 That is just sick.
“Pervert a-*hoy* …!”
Dammit, Munch…😆
Shouldn't the parents be punished for selling their son out? The law should take all the money and put it in a trust for the son until he was of age.
Can’t punish what you can’t prove. With the witness gone they can’t have a trial. At best they would hold the dad until the kid comes back and the trial can begin but it never happened.
Fun fact the little boy JJ plays the hall monitor in that’s so raven
Really? I didn’t know that!
Tht kid mouthing off to Stabler. Priceless. 😆🤣
Where is DCFS/CPS in all of this? They should have taken protective custody and the girl should have talked to a child advocate because the cops are not trained in these types of situations.
You watched an 11 minute clip of an episode that lasts an hour, genius. Extrapolate!
@@jerryfiore5818 That 11 minute clip told me what I needed to know about their process. There is nothing to extrapolate because I do not have their known data. I know what is supposed to happen but not all departments follow the rules. My comment stands as correct.
10:02
“And if they’re not I always get permission over the telephone”
10:08
“All the time, what’s wrong with that.”
I could just be seeing what I want to see, but Will Keenan’s acting here is so subtle but cool.
His expression and way of saying the lines sounds more like a child trying to be assertive, pretending to be an adult than an actual adult.
As if he’s a toddler on the naughty step trying to explain why the toilets clogged and the disappearance of his dad’s keys aren’t connected…
Yeah id never let my kids alone with any grown adult.
Adults who allow a child to have access to a child molester knowing their disease exists is guilty of child neglect, human trafficking, and negligence.
I am not calling it neglect or human trafficking because what the parents did sounds worse than that because they allowed it deliberately. I call it betrayal; betrayal of the child’s trust they had for their parents a to love and protect them from such a thing
When the boy said he couldn't talk because of the contract, i remembered this was the Peter Pan creep episode.
This makes me want to cry. I never experienced this, but it's horrible. No child should go through this. Why can't active pedophiles understand the harm they cause ?
The same reason why terrorists can understand the harm they cause
I would have thought that the teacher’s would have at LEAST tried to get him in school therapy, or have some record of talking to the parents about it. Hypersexuality/violence is a major sign of SA.
They even made sure the actor looked similar to Michael Jackson.
Lmfao I caught that too
I don't think he looks like Michael Jackson at all. Sure, he's pale af and has black hair, but that's all I saw in common
@@bellaknightR597 pretty sure he is heavily inspired from MJ while not trying to look exactly like him to avoid a real lawsuit. They both even have the similar allegations even if he didn't look like him.
The fucked up thing is, with the context, it is possible that the parents did not so much care about their sons wellbeing as they wanted him not to to be in a position in which his motivation to talk outweighed his fear of his parents.
I wonder what kind of support they have on set for these child actors doing intense scenes like this covering such topics..
This sort of seems like it might be influenced by the rumors about Michael Jackson.
Munch: “Pervert ahoy” 7:59 😂
The puns in that scene had me dying… “what you gotta do to get booty from the treasure chest?”
pervert ahoy one of munchs most iconic lines
This Kid reminds me of myself when I was his age thank God At least one of my Parents were Decent enough to Get me help. I had a lot of people in my life Help me out of it and now I'm doing Better. It's never too late for these kids man they just need to want change. They need to desire to grow and be better. Give them a reason.
Great comment thanks for sharing and I’m glad it got better for you
“How often do you sleep in the same bed with children?”
Billy: “ALL THE TIME WHATS WRONG WITH THAT!??”
Umm sir…
2:12
At this point i am loving this kid. Makes me laugh
Kid sounds like a hardened cop two days before retirement during that interrogation.
Why does this feel like it's a reference to Michael Jackson?
thought the same
Because it is.
I mean look at the actor and makeup they chose.
what's terrible is the epsiode ended with the guy getting away with it on a cliffhanger and they NEVER made a follow up epsiode
they had a few episode where i wonder what could happen after the end credit
The parents were the reason the guy got away because they ran away and hid their son who is the only witness to the case I’m guessing they got bribed again. So the trial got dismissed ( I think ).
Cause he was MJ.
When an airsoft group I played with accused me of stealing money (and had nothing but suspicions), rather than even think of speaking in defense of me, my old man went off on me and ordered me to pretty much accept responsibility for it.
So yeah, what this kid's parents did doesn't surprise me in the slightest. You'd think your own flesh and blood would always stand up for you, but it turns out that even they're capable of betraying you.
Very important that everyone know this! No contract or NDA can be used to cover up a crime or keep someone silent about a crime. If you are aware of a crime that was committed, but signed a privacy contract or NDA, that contract becomes null and void in that regard. You not only have the legal right to speak up without repercussion, but you have a moral obligation to speak up. No one can use a contract to keep a victim quiet. They may try. But they won’t. If it goes to court, there are many victim advocacy groups who ensure victims are represented, aren’t bribed or scared into complacency and keeping quiet, and to prevent pressures being put on them, both emotional, social, and financial. Some perpetrators will try to use contracts to punish someone for speaking up or to try and keep them quiet. “I’ll sue you if you speak up” etc. Just reach out to a victims advocacy group and they can help navigate you through the legal system when NDA’s and privacy contracts are involved and someone is trying to use those to keep people quiet about said crime.
This is exactly why I never was excited about turning 18. Everyone believes turning 18 is a big deal. No expects a kid to be a school shooter or a harm towards others for no other reason besides the kid being under 18. If you are 17, people don’t see you capable of harming others. If you are 18 or above then they consider the possibility that this person can cause harm.
I don’t give children the benefiting of any doubt just because they are under 18 or elementary school children. There is a strong possibility that someone can be a harm towards others. That is why people often fail to detect school shooters or other type of kids who can cause harm: They don’t think a kid or a kid under 18 is capable of doing so; so they would turn a blind eye.
I have 3 baby cousins and they behave all time and hardly ever cause trouble. Does that mean I will ignore the possibility that they could one day be a threat just because they behave under my watch all the time? No. I prefer to keep an open mind and possibilities open. It’s always those you least expect that can leave you surprised and who you don’t see coming; that why someone being under 18 doesn’t work on me; they are still capable of doing harm. Those under 18 do the crime then they do the time.
So true! So many people ignore this fact and it’s why we are doomed to repeat history.
I've never met anyone who thinks a 17 year old "isn't capable of harming others." Just because the law defines adulthood as 18+, that doesn't mean anyone thinks that people under 18 can't cause harm. Literally no one thinks that. Even under the law, minors are frequently charged as adults if the crime is severe.
@@JJ-yc2svoh really? Tell that to Vaughn. A teenage girl had been posting mixes of herself online and many people are attacking that dumb teen girl for it. Stacey Vaughn in the other hand says that the girl does know any better because she below 18. She said that herself.
Old classmates I found did a predator bust of a guy they once knew in highschool. He did something no one expected. He was 16 and made an 11 year old give him a blow job. We discovered it after a pedophile bust when he was yrs later 23 trying to meet with a 13 year old. His parents excused him when he was 16. You honestly think that no one actually thinks what I just pointed out? Because guess what, they do!!!
@@JJ-yc2sv tell that about an 11 year old psycho who killed his own sister all because of cookies. No one bothered to look into him just because he was 11.
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What are you even talking about? They obviously DID "look into him" or it never would've been known that he'd done anything.
Everyone knows that children are plenty capable of harming others. Have you never heard the common phrase "kids can be so cruel" ?
Also, don't think I didn't notice that you tried to use an 11 year old as evidence of your claim about 17 year olds. Even if he truly had been overlooked, that wouldn't support the claim you made. Where is your evidence of people thinking that 17 year olds are "incapable of harming others" ?
The fact that juvenile detention centers exist is proof that, as a society, we recognize that children can and do harm others.
I love how the made the dude billy look like Micheal Jackson as much as they could lmao
No amount of money would keep me from seeing a predator be locked up if it was my child. I know this is just a show, however, I wouldn’t doubt if that hasn’t happened before.
It has. It's based on the Michael Jackson scandals.
This seems like a strange version of the allegations towards Michael Jackson. I don’t know if it’s based on that.
It obviously is. lmao
I mean the looks just like him
As a dad, this makes me writhe.
So no one is addressing the MJ elephant in the room. The writers couldn’t have made it more obvious.
He could have done a little dance number and shouted about ignorance and allegedly
@@hunterg24:You’re right. A studded glove on his left hand too. 😂
The parents are disgusting for seeing all the signs. Being told over abs over by multiple people he needs help. Yet they sit back and do nothing.
4:55 OMG is that Doctor Henry Wu from Jurassic World!?
He was a Law & Order mainstay for almost 2 decades.
@@spiderdxn2263 Right. OP has that backwards.
B.D. Wong is great
@@melissaharris3389 Wait, B.D. Wong!? He play Li Shang in Mulan!
Park not World
I feel so bad for that kid. He deserves so much better than this!
I remember this one. The dad hides JJ somewhere and without JJ testifying against him, Billy is acquitted. He throws a pajama party with a bunch of kids to celebrate at the end.
😮
I blame Stacy's Mom, standing at the window and besides the pool undressing.....
What a great little actor he was
The boy actor is incredibly talented. His acting is absolutely amazing!
Parents being this dumb is so frustrating
Some parents excuse and defend their children's bad behavior and negative actions, including bullying, abusing, and stealing. Some trust the wrong people. Both of these people deserve punishment.
Billy even LOOKS like Michael Jackson. SVU writers were very smart with this episode!
He looked more like Jared
Heehee does.
This character Billy was most probably inspired by allegations against Michael Jackson. Some of the details were changed, but the parallel is unmistakable.
Yeah, but Michael Jackson was found innocent and the parents had their kids tell lies just to get his money.
This kid is describing molestation by an adult and the cop sits right next to him. This isn't the right time to be physically close to him.
That's what I was thinking, what if he gets triggered. I get the cop had safe intentions but still
The father doesn’t care that his son is a psychopath
The father is going to have to face disgrace for that.
What is he going on about?
More of a sociopath rather than a psychopath. Psychopaths are usually born without a conscious, sociopaths are bred from environments of abuse and neglect.
I don’t think the son is a psychopath, he’s hurting because of the abuse and lashing out.
@@ayameisastar Following that logic then a predator who hurts children is just "lashing out" if he/she was a former victim.
All theses children actors on this show each deserve Emmys for their performances
I know a kid like him. He’s 6, his dad is creepy and his mom doesn’t do anything just afraid. They divorced and the kid got worse. He’s not allowed to be around other kids not the schools in the area for hurting kids. He would fight and rage. He got kicked out at 4 or 5 I think. I moved so idk how he is now but this made me think of him
You know, the acting on this show amazes me!!! So well done!!!!!
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Never leave your kids with anyone...I want family can't even be trusted
I’ve learn that hurt people hurt people.
Dude looks like Michael Jackson mixed with Johnny depps willy wonka
This kid is an awesome actor.
Lol no
@@Mitch...Gregory lol yes
Unfortunately, there’s a lot of truth in this scenario.
He was in the the music video "Stacy's Mom". I use watch the music video all the time, because I had a little crush on him. I was like seven or eight at the time.
This was one of the first two SVU episodes I saw.
Same here. It wasn't until years after airing, during a rerun marathon, but this is the first one I remember too.