Please don't get pushed to remove the video, the algorithm already beats it down. I'm russian and we need to become rational again. This video serves a great cause
Man that was a fantastic video of American/Russian history. This video should be shown to every U.S. History student in America instead of this propaganda we got going today. What a fantastic story of solidarity and Realpolitik. They should rename the Giants ballpark. Andrei A Popov Memorial Stadium. That man was one magnificent bastard to his friends and foe’s alike! Outstanding Naval Officer. I bet you those sailors had the time of their lives in Frisco and NY.
The Russian now isnt the same Russia, as it is with China, the China now isnt the China we had before. Imperial Russia and America were best friends and ironically biggest nations on earth. China was as well, communism did industrialize but it ruined nations and left borders that now cause future wars.
My Polish grandmother and Ukrainian grandfather left there about that time and immigrated to the United States. I think alot of mistakes were made by the Czar but I feel being a absolute ruler to such a vast land is an impossible responsibility for one man. I admire him mostly for being a loving family man.🙋🏻♀️❤️
@@grammy965 loving family man that massacred innocent people wanting freedom in Poland and Central Asia but oh man he was a great family man, what a joke would you say that about Hitler
@@grammy965 maybe but it’s cold comfort at best, and with someone with Polish and Ukrainian background I would’ve figured you’d understand that the Czars weren’t good people.
Im from Russia, and i hope the relationship between our country will become better Love Americans and your ideals, we have nothing to get uppity with each other.
It’s a shame that the American media gaslights the public the opposite way. America and Russia need to be strong ally’s once again. It’s the banksters biggest fear. They know they’d be through.
Good to hear this discussed. We owe the a debt of gratitude for their help. Webster G. Tarpley lectured on this a few years ago and it was very informative.
Rome's Responsibility for the Assassination of Abraham by Brigadier general Thomas Harris who oversaw The trial of the co-conspirators behind the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, it is a book you can find for free on Google books or Archive org You want to really know about the Civil war. Also "Shall Liberty Die" by Elijah Lucas and can find it free on Google books, ancestor wrote that over 100 years ago. Tells you alot about what is really going on in america
I guess debt was already payed. Russians supported you during civil war and you supported them during world war 2. What is sickenning tho is that there would be Russia or well Soviet union after the war since they were winning it slowly to year 1943 but there would be no United States of America if there were no Imperial Russian Navy in the first place. Those relations should have been kept, being friendly towards each other. Now USA not even knowing it, they will realize this after maybe 5 years, USA created Sino-Russian alliance which is far stronger then Germano-Russian alliance. All good to Russians for what they are doing rn. Winning against nazism once again, as Fidel Castro said.
Excellent information! I will soon purchase the “Friends in Peace and War, The Russian Navy’s Landmark Visit to Civil War San Francisco” book by C. Douglas Kroll. My hope is that the text contains a list of dates and locations where the Russian Navy was present on the Pacific Coast, to add context to my California in the Civil War research. Thank you!
@@Kayluv101 “helped” they never aided in the blockade of southern ports. The reason the Russian fleet was present on the US coastlines was fear of being bottled up by the British and French navies in harbor if those powers wanted to aid the Polish who rebelled in 1863. So less of wanting to help America more get out of dodge when and if shooting started.
This is very interesting a friend of mine recently told me about this and being somewhat of a history enthusiast and war buff, was very surprised I never came across this before
You conveniently forgot to mention that both admirals had secret orders from the emperor to place themselves under orders of Lincoln should the British and French attack
No way!? Is this true ?? I just barley found out about this it’s crazy to me we never learned about it in school and stuff.. We’re always taught/told russia is an evil country and they are enemies.. This blew my mind had no idea.
it is remarkable history. There was, indeed, the outside chance that the American Civil War might have inaugurated WWI 54 years earlier. The sailors are actually buried just north of San Francisco on Mare Island at the Naval Cemetery. There are other remnants of Russian history on the West Coast from the 19th century that never make it into our history books. There is a general perception that our great relationship with the Russians, which again resulted in us getting Alaska in an amicable acquisition, took a bad turn as a result of the Treaty of Portsmouth that ceded much land from Russia to Japan as a result of the Russo-Japanese War, whose peace was mediated in the US by Theodore Roosevelt. Then with the Russian Revolution the rest is, well . . . history.
The U.S. is who also took Japan out of its Shogun feudal system and modernized their military. They paid attention to the Naval part didn’t they? Lol. Not so fun fact. It was a guy named Jacob Schiff of Kuhn and Loeb and Company(Rothschild’s watchdog over JP Morgan) that bankrolled the Japanese Navy in 1905 and he also Bankrolled Trotsky and the Bolsheviks in 1917 20 million in Gold Billion sent to Lenin in exile. Take a guess where Lenin was in exile. None other than Switzerland. Bankers heaven! What we’re experiencing now with Russia goes back to the Congress in Vienna in 1815 where the Czar told the southern Catholics to eat a bag of roots. Ain’t joining your one world government with the Pope having the final say.
Thank you for such an interesting information and keeping HISTORY alive. I have grown up in Russia, but newer knew about this part of the history (only knew about Alaska 🥴😊) Subscribed !
You should read "Rome's Responsibility for the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln" by Brigadier general Thomas Harris who oversaw The trial of the co-conspirators
Just sucks now man, I have friends that are Russian and they’re good people, I wish things weren’t the way they are now. Thank you to the Russian navy during that time for helping out cities.
I am interesting about what you talk. I ' am a french physician in a emergency room, and I am studying History of Medicine, particularly the improvement of médecine and chirurgy the field of War. My own great great father was physician in the Russians Imperial Navy in Odessa, my family is coming a part from Shitomir and a part from Simferopol, now one of the reason of war between Russia and Ukraine. In my point of view, both have rights, and it's hard to divide common roots. That's make me sad, thinking about all these young men death or injuries for the will of one , Putin...I think that something more peaceful would be the both nations wich have so many things in common. .
Cassius Marcellus Clay an American diplomat played the biggest role in getting Russia's help & is the reason for Lincoln signing the emancipation proclamation.
16:38 I find it funny that the ships you use as potential threats to San Francisco's harbor were not, in fact, threats to San Francisco's harbor. The CSS Sumter never operated in the Pacific, and it's time as a *warship* lasted six months, ending in December of 1862 (10 months before the Russian Squadron even arrives), when it's captain was murdered and was sold off to a British officer. It was then converted into a merchant blockade runner and renamed the Gibraltar. The CSS Alabama, while in service during the 7 months that the Russians were overwintering in San Francisco and New York, was busy raiding shipping in *Sumatra*, and after sinking 3 US merchantmen in December of 1863 in the strait of Malacca, it's captain decided to cease any further raiding and spend next year refitting and repairing the Alabama. After several months sailing it landed in France in June of 1864 (two months after the Russians depart from the US) and was then sunk by the USS Kearsarge.
Point of clarification - I did not "use" these ships as examples of ships as actual potential threats to San Francisco. I cited the fact that going into the winter of 1863-64 RUMORS were circulating within San Francisco that these two ships might attack the City. This is referenced on pg 102, in the excellent book Friends in Peace and War, by C. Douglas Kroll.
USA & Russia relations are the way they are because USSR became hostile towards USA at the end of ww2 while Berlin was split into 4 sections to rebuild by USA, UK, France and USSR. USSR put up the Berlin wall creating West Berlin and East Berlin.
Yes they support ukraine because they are grateful for stepan bandera slaughtering polish, roma, jewish, and Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine. Why would he kill Ukrainians well because they didn't want to be part of their ultranationalist movements. cheers!
@@everypitchcounts4875Well US send a invasion fleet to Russia against USSR, of course the relation were sour, but after 1991 it's sad because the actual russian leadership like the west really a lot their children study in the west and they own proprities so i dont think russia is really the one looking for the war because even now they are trying to maintain relations
Russia also was the first country to gain the Most Favored Status from the US. Something that countries crave in their dreams today. Unfortunately the relationship between the two countries worsened due to many political shake ups, but I believe it must come back to the way it started one day. ❤
I think Morocco was the first because of the Barbary wars. Morocco was the first to acknowledge US as a new independent nation. USA & USSR relations changed right after ww2 and have never been the same since.
Isn't it possible that the reason the Russian fleet's visit to U.S. ports is not covered extensively in U.S. history classes is because it really wasn't that consequential? Don't get me wrong. It was an important demonstration of support and friendship at a critical time in our history, and we should appreciate it for what it was. But did a fleet of sailing ships that arrived after the tide of war had turned and that stayed for less than a year really affect the outcome of the war? It seems unlikely. By September of1863 when the Russian fleet arrived, the North's Anaconda Plan was already strangling southern commerce, and its steam-powered fleet had won a series of victories on the Mississippi river, culminating in a pivotal victory at the battle of Vicksburg, while the Union army had defeated the Confederates at the battle of Gettysburg. These battles occurred in July of 1863, before the Russians arrived. Britain was unlikely to back the CSA because of its own anti-slavery stance, the availability of cotton from India and Egypt, and the massive amount of commerce it had with the North. And France was unlikely to do so alone. But still, the Russian fleet's visit is an interesting historical footnote, and we should remember with gratitude the Russian sailors who lost their lives fighting the fire in San Francisco.
it was same support as US supporting Soviet Union during world war 2, thin is different tho since Soviet Union was slowly winning to year 1943 since all their factories were moved further inside the country and after 1943 and Kursk, all was decided. Parking Imperial Russian war ships for union actually helped since British couldnt do shit.
what are you talkig about? ignoring the fact the serb presence in the US was tiny at the time, Serbia had already outlawed slavery and had a very liberal constitution at the time
@@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367 a lot of Serbs fought overseas in America on the side of Jefferson Davis and Robert E Lee. It sounds strange, but it’s real, look it up. Edit: I should have also mentioned that most of them were Serbian Americans.
Russia NEVER had slavery. NEVER. That locked on land farmers were farmers with all rights and they paid taxes. Plus lockery was only for 60 years in all history. WHAT SLAVERY is he talking about? 2) Russia helped USA in second war of independence. That fleet move wasnt cause of neccesity it was CHOICE when entire Corporate globalist EU(everything was ruled by banksters and traders at that time in Europe with cosmetic monarchy as distraction ) wanted financial and economic vassalage of USA and civil war was in fact liberation from that. Why Russia helped USA? cause EU was Anti Russia corporate oligarchy at that time and having independent USA as third power was incredibly important for Russian Empire, at least at that time.
They were slaves in all but name. They couldn't leave the property, they were bound to it and had little to no rights unless their lord of the land was progressive. They could also be sold lmao.
Please don't get pushed to remove the video, the algorithm already beats it down. I'm russian and we need to become rational again. This video serves a great cause
Man that was a fantastic video of American/Russian history. This video should be shown to every U.S. History student in America instead of this propaganda we got going today. What a fantastic story of solidarity and Realpolitik. They should rename the Giants ballpark. Andrei A Popov Memorial Stadium. That man was one magnificent bastard to his friends and foe’s alike! Outstanding Naval Officer. I bet you those sailors had the time of their lives in Frisco and NY.
And yet we never thank Russia for our existence
The Russian now isnt the same Russia, as it is with China, the China now isnt the China we had before.
Imperial Russia and America were best friends and ironically biggest nations on earth.
China was as well, communism did industrialize but it ruined nations and left borders that now cause future wars.
Talk about ungratefulness.
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This is fascinating part of our history that I didn't know. Much respect for that Russian Czar.
That Czar then also brutally suppressed an uprising of Polish patriots fighting for their independence.
My Polish grandmother and Ukrainian grandfather left there about that time and immigrated to the United States. I think alot of mistakes were made by the Czar but I feel being a absolute ruler to such a vast land is an impossible responsibility for one man. I admire him mostly for being a loving family man.🙋🏻♀️❤️
@@grammy965 loving family man that massacred innocent people wanting freedom in Poland and Central Asia but oh man he was a great family man, what a joke would you say that about Hitler
@@jeff_underscore9244 No I wouldn't. But the czar did pay the ultimate price. That may have been justice.
@@grammy965 maybe but it’s cold comfort at best, and with someone with Polish and Ukrainian background I would’ve figured you’d understand that the Czars weren’t good people.
Im from Russia, and i hope the relationship between our country will become better
Love Americans and your ideals, we have nothing to get uppity with each other.
It’s a shame that the American media gaslights the public the opposite way. America and Russia need to be strong ally’s once again. It’s the banksters biggest fear. They know they’d be through.
As an American I also hope the same! May peace and lasting friendship triumph!
Good to hear this discussed. We owe the a debt of gratitude for their help. Webster G. Tarpley lectured on this a few years ago and it was very informative.
Rome's Responsibility for the Assassination of Abraham by Brigadier general Thomas Harris who oversaw The trial of the co-conspirators behind the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, it is a book you can find for free on Google books or Archive org
You want to really know about the Civil war. Also "Shall Liberty Die" by Elijah Lucas and can find it free on Google books, ancestor wrote that over 100 years ago. Tells you alot about what is really going on in america
I also heard Tarpley speak on this many years ago. A real eye-opener. Great to see someone make a video. Well done!
I guess debt was already payed. Russians supported you during civil war and you supported them during world war 2. What is sickenning tho is that there would be Russia or well Soviet union after the war since they were winning it slowly to year 1943 but there would be no United States of America if there were no Imperial Russian Navy in the first place. Those relations should have been kept, being friendly towards each other. Now USA not even knowing it, they will realize this after maybe 5 years, USA created Sino-Russian alliance which is far stronger then Germano-Russian alliance. All good to Russians for what they are doing rn. Winning against nazism once again, as Fidel Castro said.
Excellent information! I will soon purchase the “Friends in Peace and War, The Russian Navy’s Landmark Visit to Civil War San Francisco” book by
C. Douglas Kroll. My hope is that the text contains a list of dates and locations where the Russian Navy was present on the Pacific Coast, to add context to my California in the Civil War research. Thank you!
I've known about this for a long time. Which makes me even more sad and ashamed regarding the conduct of our country towards Russia now...
It's sickening isn't it
@@devonchristian3526yes it’s sickening how the Russians have invaded a sovereign neighbor and bombed its civilians for no reason.
They literally helped us during one of the most important times in our country’s history..
@@Kayluv101 “helped” they never aided in the blockade of southern ports. The reason the Russian fleet was present on the US coastlines was fear of being bottled up by the British and French navies in harbor if those powers wanted to aid the Polish who rebelled in 1863. So less of wanting to help America more get out of dodge when and if shooting started.
Not to mention Ukraine is not NATO and belong to Russia anyways, as well they are a sovereign nation.
This is very interesting a friend of mine recently told me about this and being somewhat of a history enthusiast and war buff, was very surprised I never came across this before
Very interesting.
You conveniently forgot to mention that both admirals had secret orders from the emperor to place themselves under orders of Lincoln should the British and French attack
No way!? Is this true ?? I just barley found out about this it’s crazy to me we never learned about it in school and stuff.. We’re always taught/told russia is an evil country and they are enemies..
This blew my mind had no idea.
Hence the loophole. Both commanders especially Popov knew what to do. These Russian sailors were tougher than any man today. Skilled capable men!
it is remarkable history. There was, indeed, the outside chance that the American Civil War might have inaugurated WWI 54 years earlier.
The sailors are actually buried just north of San Francisco on Mare Island at the Naval Cemetery. There are other remnants of Russian history on the West Coast from the 19th century that never make it into our history books. There is a general perception that our great relationship with the Russians, which again resulted in us getting Alaska in an amicable acquisition, took a bad turn as a result of the Treaty of Portsmouth that ceded much land from Russia to Japan as a result of the Russo-Japanese War, whose peace was mediated in the US by Theodore Roosevelt. Then with the Russian Revolution the rest is, well . . . history.
The U.S. is who also took Japan out of its Shogun feudal system and modernized their military. They paid attention to the Naval part didn’t they? Lol. Not so fun fact. It was a guy named Jacob Schiff of Kuhn and Loeb and Company(Rothschild’s watchdog over JP Morgan) that bankrolled the Japanese Navy in 1905 and he also Bankrolled Trotsky and the Bolsheviks in 1917 20 million in Gold Billion sent to Lenin in exile. Take a guess where Lenin was in exile. None other than Switzerland. Bankers heaven! What we’re experiencing now with Russia goes back to the Congress in Vienna in 1815 where the Czar told the southern Catholics to eat a bag of roots. Ain’t joining your one world government with the Pope having the final say.
Thank you for such an interesting information and keeping HISTORY alive. I have grown up in Russia, but newer knew about this part of the history (only knew about Alaska 🥴😊) Subscribed !
Most excellent presentation! Thank you 😊
"The Anglo-Saxons like nothing better than when the Slavs are fighting and killing each other." - Alexander I of Russia
You should read "Rome's Responsibility for the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln" by Brigadier general Thomas Harris who oversaw The trial of the co-conspirators
I love learning stuff I didn't know.
Hmm. As a senior citizen my favorite hobby is forgetting things I once understood perfectly.
Just sucks now man, I have friends that are Russian and they’re good people, I wish things weren’t the way they are now. Thank you to the Russian navy during that time for helping out cities.
Great video.
I am interesting about what you talk. I ' am a french physician in a emergency room, and I am studying History of Medicine, particularly the improvement of médecine and chirurgy the field of War.
My own great great father was physician in the Russians Imperial Navy in Odessa, my family is coming a part from Shitomir and a part from Simferopol, now one of the reason of war between Russia and Ukraine. In my point of view, both have rights, and it's hard to divide common roots. That's make me sad, thinking about all these young men death or injuries for the will of one , Putin...I think that something more peaceful would be the both nations wich have so many things in common.
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You won't hear this on CNN.
Excellent.
Cassius Marcellus Clay an American diplomat played the biggest role in getting Russia's help & is the reason for Lincoln signing the emancipation proclamation.
They didn't teach me that in school, thank you
Сегодня это кажется нереальным , возможно такого больше никогда не будет
If people only knew how much the history was reconstructed to fit foreigners into it
16:38 I find it funny that the ships you use as potential threats to San Francisco's harbor were not, in fact, threats to San Francisco's harbor.
The CSS Sumter never operated in the Pacific, and it's time as a *warship* lasted six months, ending in December of 1862 (10 months before the Russian Squadron even arrives), when it's captain was murdered and was sold off to a British officer. It was then converted into a merchant blockade runner and renamed the Gibraltar.
The CSS Alabama, while in service during the 7 months that the Russians were overwintering in San Francisco and New York, was busy raiding shipping in *Sumatra*, and after sinking 3 US merchantmen in December of 1863 in the strait of Malacca, it's captain decided to cease any further raiding and spend next year refitting and repairing the Alabama. After several months sailing it landed in France in June of 1864 (two months after the Russians depart from the US) and was then sunk by the USS Kearsarge.
Point of clarification - I did not "use" these ships as examples of ships as actual potential threats to San Francisco. I cited the fact that going into the winter of 1863-64 RUMORS were circulating within San Francisco that these two ships might attack the City. This is referenced on pg 102, in the excellent book Friends in Peace and War, by C. Douglas Kroll.
The Civil War was much to do about States Rights which I support. Please observe how the US treats Russia today. What does this tell you?
USA & Russia relations are the way they are because USSR became hostile towards USA at the end of ww2 while Berlin was split into 4 sections to rebuild by USA, UK, France and USSR. USSR put up the Berlin wall creating West Berlin and East Berlin.
The states rights to preserve slavery, sure.
Wow,
I can see why the Polish support Ukraine and oppose Russia
Yes they support ukraine because they are grateful for stepan bandera slaughtering polish, roma, jewish, and Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine. Why would he kill Ukrainians well because they didn't want to be part of their ultranationalist movements. cheers!
Russia loves America
It's sad how the US treats its allies.
What's even sadder is how USSR treated USA after ww2. Relations haven't been the same since.
@@everypitchcounts4875Well US send a invasion fleet to Russia against USSR, of course the relation were sour, but after 1991 it's sad because the actual russian leadership like the west really a lot their children study in the west and they own proprities so i dont think russia is really the one looking for the war because even now they are trying to maintain relations
RUSOAMERICANS 🫶
Russia also was the first country to gain the Most Favored Status from the US. Something that countries crave in their dreams today. Unfortunately the relationship between the two countries worsened due to many political shake ups, but I believe it must come back to the way it started one day. ❤
I think Morocco was the first because of the Barbary wars. Morocco was the first to acknowledge US as a new independent nation. USA & USSR relations changed right after ww2 and have never been the same since.
Liar on the enslaved "African-American" part which that term wasn't used back during that time period
Isn't it possible that the reason the Russian fleet's visit to U.S. ports is not covered extensively in U.S. history classes is because it really wasn't that consequential? Don't get me wrong. It was an important demonstration of support and friendship at a critical time in our history, and we should appreciate it for what it was. But did a fleet of sailing ships that arrived after the tide of war had turned and that stayed for less than a year really affect the outcome of the war? It seems unlikely. By September of1863 when the Russian fleet arrived, the North's Anaconda Plan was already strangling southern commerce, and its steam-powered fleet had won a series of victories on the Mississippi river, culminating in a pivotal victory at the battle of Vicksburg, while the Union army had defeated the Confederates at the battle of Gettysburg. These battles occurred in July of 1863, before the Russians arrived. Britain was unlikely to back the CSA because of its own anti-slavery stance, the availability of cotton from India and Egypt, and the massive amount of commerce it had with the North. And France was unlikely to do so alone. But still, the Russian fleet's visit is an interesting historical footnote, and we should remember with gratitude the Russian sailors who lost their lives fighting the fire in San Francisco.
it was same support as US supporting Soviet Union during world war 2, thin is different tho since Soviet Union was slowly winning to year 1943 since all their factories were moved further inside the country and after 1943 and Kursk, all was decided. Parking Imperial Russian war ships for union actually helped since British couldnt do shit.
Great Britain wanted the Russians to fight on their side which they’ve politely declined
Reality,lincoln was more liberal than tsar alexandre...))
He should be because he was elected by the people unlike the tsar
Meanwhile the Serbs fought for the Confederacy.
what are you talkig about? ignoring the fact the serb presence in the US was tiny at the time, Serbia had already outlawed slavery and had a very liberal constitution at the time
@@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367 a lot of Serbs fought overseas in America on the side of Jefferson Davis and Robert E Lee. It sounds strange, but it’s real, look it up.
Edit: I should have also mentioned that most of them were Serbian Americans.
I think he ment serbs born in the south America@@picklejarmonsterfanboy9367
Russia NEVER had slavery. NEVER. That locked on land farmers were farmers with all rights and they paid taxes. Plus lockery was only for 60 years in all history. WHAT SLAVERY is he talking about?
2) Russia helped USA in second war of independence. That fleet move wasnt cause of neccesity it was CHOICE when entire Corporate globalist EU(everything was ruled by banksters and traders at that time in Europe with cosmetic monarchy as distraction ) wanted financial and economic vassalage of USA and civil war was in fact liberation from that.
Why Russia helped USA? cause EU was Anti Russia corporate oligarchy at that time and having independent USA as third power was incredibly important for Russian Empire, at least at that time.
They were slaves in all but name. They couldn't leave the property, they were bound to it and had little to no rights unless their lord of the land was progressive. They could also be sold lmao.
Most Americans don’t know anything about the civil war
What you talking about it the thing you learn in 8 grade that when i learn about it but you saying we don't know about our own war