The funny part is people blames Ieyasu for betraying Toyotomi but not mention how Toyotomi userped power from Oda first. Another ironic part is Komaki-Nagakute showed how Ieyasu still remained loyal to his former masters clan. Challenging Toyotomi and holding ground at that time is pretty impressive. Ieyasu really have guts.
nemesis3587 yes, I can’t disagree with this one. Up until Mikatagahara, Ieyasu always led from the front. Whatever else about his character, his courage is in disputed,
Ieyasu is by any measure a brave man and a great tactician. But its not so much just pure loyalty on Ieyasu's part. In times such as the Sengoku, whatever samurai virtue that has been romanticized in legends and stories has to be discounted. We all know the cunning and opportunistic character Ieyasu was. He probably already has sights on becoming shogun himself, changing his family name (some say his Minamoto lineage was forged). He would probably know its a very long shot, but set himself a platform nonetheless. I believe his alliance to Nobukatsu is more of a strategy to have a chance to tilt the massive balance of power Hideyoshi held. Nobunaga had adult sons ready to succeed, but Hideyoshi had usurped with Nobunaga's toddler grandson, plain for all to see and a very legit excuse to call to arms against him. If Ieyasu does not help Nobukatsu, and Nobukatsu submits, it further entrench Hideyoshi as the new overlord. If he succeed with helping Nobukatsu, win a few decisive battle, sway other daimyos to his side (he already has Hojo), that definitelty has the chance to tilt the power balance. Hideyoshi may be weakened and Ieyasu can benefit from the ensuing chaos. If Hideyoshi goes on to fully secure his title and power as Nobunaga's successor, Ieyasu wont know if he will ever live to see himself having a chance to be shogun. Of course we all know he did anyway. And dont forget Tsukiyama and Nobuyasu. Long story short I think Ieyasu took an opportunistic gamble with Nobukatsu, little if anything to do with loyalty.
@@jurtra9090 If a bird doesn't sing, kill it If a bird doesn't sing, ask it to sing If a bird doesn't sing, wait for it to sing Nobunaga sheds blood and kills for glory Hideyoshi persuades men to follow him Ieyasu waits for his moment to rise to glory
Honestly for all the criticism Oda Nobunaga gets, one can argue he was much better alive. This could have been avoided had that traitor Mitsuhide not succeeded.
How far the Oda have fallen that Mori Nagayoshi would lead an army to seize their lands after his father and four of his brothers died in service to the clan, including three of them at Honnouji itself.
Kenshin and Shingen Zhuge Liang and Sima Yi Hideyoshi and Ieyasu When rivals of matched abilities do battle both ultimately win as their names and conflicts go down forever in history to be remembered as the stuff legends are born from.
@@isaganipagarajr3298 not really, so do the losers and bystanders. Good examples are the German Generals of WWII and the Shu Han official who wrote the first collective records of the Three Kingdoms. For bystanders you have all the British, French and Prussian observers of the US Civil War. History is not just written by the victors, it can be shaped by anyone.
Viewing the conflict from the much wider perspective, it wasn't simply the head-on clash between Hashiba Hideyoshi and Tokugawa Ieyasu. Remember that the other factions / clans / leaders were also on the moves while Hideyoshi had been fighting against the Oda-Tokugawa coalition. A series of diplomatic moves and coalitions was rapidly being weaved around the time of AD 1584, centered around the "anti-Hideyoshi coalition" versus "pro-Hideyoshi coalition" in the West, and the "anti-Hojo coalition" in the Kanto region. The Saiga-Negoro Ikki was threatening the suburb of Osaka from the Kishu, causing no minor trouble to Hideyoshi ; on top of that, Sassa Morimasa of Etchu rebelled against Hideyoshi and formed the alliance with Ieyasu. Chosokabe Motochika was adopting the anti-Hideyoshi stance and busying on sweeping the pro-Hideyoshi Sogō Masayasu for unification of Shikoku, a substantial threat at the southern flank of Hideyoshi ; and that's not all, the Hojo clan (which currently befriended with Tokugawa with political marriage) would likely send additional reinforcement to Tokugawa for the latter's cause. As forementioned, the political situation was far more complicated, and Ieyasu wasn't the only troublesome enemy Hideyoshi had to cope with. To counter such "anti-Hideyoshi coalition", Hideyoshi maintained the cordial relations with Mori and Uesugi, utilizing Uesugi to contain Morimasa at Hokuriku, and also actively collaborating with Hojo's long-standing enemies such as Satake and Utsunomiya to "curb" the Hojo movement. Since the Hojo expansionism in the Kanto region had made him a lot of enemies, it's not surprising that the formidable "anti-Hojo coalition" was formed culminated with the large-scale Battle of Numajiri, after which Hojo Ujimasa achieved significant advantage over a number of enemies. With the Saiga-Negoro Ikki, Chosokabe Motochika and Sassa Norimasa defeated and humbled one by one, and Hojo too busying maintaining his control over the Kanto region and would not be expected for reliable support, Tokugawa Ieyasu was completely isolated in hopeless situation, had no choice but "submit" to Hideyoshi after the latter gave a "generous offer" he could hardly refuse. Indeed, the AD 1586 Tensho Earthquake probably had decisive impact since it severely weakened the Hashiba clan's strength, persuaded Hideyoshi to adopt the more conciliatory policy in handling with Ieyasu instead of strong fist. Just stay tuned for the uploader's subsequent episodes for revealing how the plots developed - I'll offer some interesting information and perspectives as the supplemental knowledge of this video.
No joke, you're my absolute favorite channel to chill and listen to when im feeling down. The way you narrate these videos is absolutely stunning. You get to the point, but also explain things very well. You make things sound like I'm being read a professionally written novel while explaining everything you need to in less than a half hour. I feel excited when big things happen, disappointed when different plans go wrong and sad when samurai/daimyo/shoguns i like die or fail with their grand plans. Im genuinely glad i found your channel, you sparked my interest in feudal Japan and i hope your channel becomes one of, if not THE biggest when it comes to feudal Japanese history. Keep up the good work man. Ps. Sorry if this was a bit of a rant. 😔
Two chess masters at the height of their prowess. I still wonder what would have been, had they continued their conflict. The new iteration of Uesugi Kenshin vs. Takeda Shingen perhaps?
Hashiba side would slowly lose influence. Hideyoshi at the core was a farmer who rised to the rank of daimyo and effectively regent (he never took the title of Shogun). Most clans in Japan at that time was descent from nobility (even the Tokugawa was claimed part of the branch family of the Imperial, the Fujiwara if I remembered correctly). Slowly a lot of noble birth samurai clan would slowly switch side to Ieyasu should the conflict prolong.
@@ryannguyen7466 Possible but not likely. The daimyo remained loyal even when he failed his two attempts to invade China. I think the most interesting thing about the sengoku-jidaai is the concept of gekokujo - the lower rising up over the higher - and samurai loyalty meant something different to the samurai in the 16th c. vs samurai of earlier (or even later!) eras.
Actually he is right Im further examining that Ieyasu has something that Hideyoshi didnt have: hereditary vassals... The Mikawa Samurais was traditionally loyal to Matsudaira/Tokugawa clan before he was even born... Like Honda clans, Sakai clans, Okubo clans etc. So in essence he has traditional "old guard" samurai families.. CompareD to Hideyoshi vassals like Kato Kiyomasa, Otani Yoshitsugu, Ishida Mitsunari]], etc, which only came to prominence during Hideyoshi rule and still carving their own names
I've wanted this portion of Samurai history covered like this for so long. I've seen every video (multiple times) to really soak in everything and it also gets me doing my own research to better understand the intricacies of this period. You are the man! Thank you so much for doing this, I hope this channel just blows up and gets more and more subscribers because this is such a fascinating subject. Hats off to you my friend!
Can I just say that this series have been extremely entertaining and insightful, when I see a new video in this series, I usually try to save it to the end of the day but cannot help but watching it much earlier. It is often one of the highlights of my day!
Another compelling episode , bringing history to life . I look forward to the next one, many thanks for your hard work putting this series together it's much appreciated.
Both Tokugawa Ieyasu and Hideyoshi in reality were hostile either as adversaries or companions, following Nobunaga’s Ambition of creating their own designs for Japan, however, Hideyoshi regarding the Eastern lands will join Kagekatsu Uesugi, Masayuki Sanada and Yoshishige Satake to cautiously spy Ieyasu, Ujimasa Hojo and Tohoku’s rising superstar Masamune Date.
Honda Tadakatsu is regarded as the Zhang Fei of Japan. His actions in Nagakute resembled that of Zhang Fei's when the latter blocked Cao Cao's massive army that was pursuing his Lord Lui Bei.
I think he is even better than Zheng Fei I mean in conduct of war.. Tadakatsu Honda is completely moralist who were admired by his vassals Meanwhile Zhang Fei didnt command respect from his underlings, he even died in the hand of his own mens
To be fair, the feat of him fighting on the front lines of many battles during an era where matchlocks were introduced and not being injured (despite being extremely recognizable with his armor and antlers) is probably in the top five warrior greatest feats in world history
@@arielquelme Yeah it's like the guys who compared him to Lu Bu. It takes more than martial might and strategic prowess to be a true warrior; one needs loyalty, honor and perseverance on top of tall that. Tadakatsu has it all
Nobukatsu thought that he’s the one calling the shots but Ieyasu’s the guy actively fighting on the frontlines and he’s the actual man in charge of the whole shebang
15:18 “out of sheer boredom, Ikeda Tsuneoki came to Hideyoshi with a plan to dislodge Ieyasu” 😂 No, you need patience, see where the enemy strikes first, to win a battle not rash decisions! This is the art of war
For some reason I look at this battle as the pinnacle of samurai warfare in the Sengoku period. Both were esteemed tacticians with mighty armies, after they made peace their forces combined was arguably the mightiest in samurai history.
KrimzonStriker they were, till Hideyoshi passed. One must understand that samurai oaths to a lord did not extend to his family. As soon as Hideyoshi was gone, Ieyasu took his chance.
@@mikeddh2018It was also doesn't matter if he were traitor or not, he was the final and true winner of Japan. Toyotomi gained their well-deserved ending.
Two unifiers of Japan clashes here. And iirc this is the battle when Ii Naomasa gains a notable reputation by slaying Ikeda Tsuneoki History aside, i still cannot decided the best Komaki-Nagakute soundtrack in Samurai Warriors. I really love the Original version but the newer ones is also great
don't know why people like Hideyoshi, he's a traitor to the core and should be remembered as such. he was nothing before Nobunaga, everything he has was given to him by Nobunaga and he repays this kindness by betraying his sons, destroying everything Nobunaga built and usurping power from his clan. Hideyoshi is more of a traitor that Mitsuhide.
Because he actually fulfilled the dream that Nobunaga once had which is to unify Japan and to go further beyond the border to reach the ancient land of China. Tokugawa Ieyasu only managed to take power from a powerhouse that already managed to completely unify Japan and if it's not for this old turd ambition the Toyotomi might live longer and ould continue to be the ruler of Japan. Also in case you don't know Tokugawa Ieyasu has done a lot of terrible things too when he goes to fight in the "Siege of Osaka" For instance he used the cannon to scare the Lady Yodo (the daughter of Azai Nagamasa and Oichi and the mother of Toyotomi Hideyori) to force the Toyotomi into a peace deal that basically destroy the defensive aspect of Osaka Castle in other words he use PTSD to win a siege because he is unable to win without it. Then after the Siege of Osaka was completed Tokugawa Ieyasu executed Hideyori 7 year old son Toyotomi Kunimatsu and then leave the army that besiege Osaka Castle into their own devices basically he ignored the raping and killing that happened after the siege and executed the grandson of the man that has decided to not treated him as just another vassal after the battle of Komaki Nagakute. What a way to pay respect for the man that give you a second chance at life Ieyasu good job 😑👍
@@arbiteroffate3601 this medieval japan, what are u talking about? as if Toyotomi and his men never do something much worse.. 'go further beyond the border to reach the ancient land of China' .. do you actually belive that? 'What a way to pay respect for the man that give you a second chance ' .. Say that to Mitsunari 'if it's not for this old turd ambition the Toyotomi might live longer and ould continue to be the ruler of Japan' .. that old turd its much respected and charismatic than mitsunari, no one likes mitsunari neither his men or his allies, mitsunari bought destruction it self toward toyotomi clan.
What Hideyoshi did to his own, Hidetsugu also terrible Which causing northern Faimyos like Mogami Yoshiaki anf Date Masamune change allegiance to Tokugawa clan
I'm this far into your series after watching the netflix battle for japan series..Really really understand why it's shit now >.> they ignore so much it essentially turns into cliffnotes. I relaly appreciate your channel and making my job interesting to do ( since i stock shelves this is very relaxing to listen too )
Ikeda Tsuneoki was one of Nobunaga's trusted fellow and his mother nursed Nobunaga as well. It IS a shame that he turned his back at his lord and childhood friend for a piece of land.
This loosely reminds me of the Battle of Dyrrachium between Caesar and Pompey whereupon both sides just continued to build fortifications further and further before a breaking point.
@@AStonedLemon Oichi and her daughters would certainly qualify since they witnessed the Sengoku Jidai first hand and they're involved with the three men who are a significant part of that violent era
He was 17yo when imagawa order him to attack oda nobunaga.. he succeded to conquer few odas fortress.. before imagawa yoshimoto got killed at okehazama..
Have you watched any nhk taiga dramas. They are interesting historic shows about famous samurai and other important figures throughout Japanese history.
The funny part also that after smashing Nagayoshi in Komaki, a Tokugawa best general and one of Ieyasu's four wargods", Yasumasa Sakakibara mocked Hideyoshi lowly britth origin and caused Hifeyoshilhy very angry
And why didn't Ieyasu leverage his alliance with the Hojo to bolster his numbers and steamroll Hideyoshi? They clearly had no love for him. I really think this was all for show so Ieayasu could get ally status rather than vassal. He knew he'd outlive and scheme for ultimate power lol
Watching this episode, I conclude that Hideyoshi was indeed a crafty person and a brilliant schemer/politician, but I seriously doubt his military acumen. The Imjin war show how terrible he was when dealing against enemies he could not bribe (i.e. the Koreans and the Chinese).
Immanuel Herman Really? Ieyasu relied on a portion of the enemy army to defect to win at Sekigahara. However, in the battles Hideyoshi won, he tended to have superior numbers. His preferred style was to win without fighting, and at this he excelled.
He is one of the best in castle siege. As for the imjin war, he was hands off as far as strategy is concern. Ieyasu on the other hand has not shown great military skills. He lost to the sanada twice, lost to shingen. He was just lucky in sekigahara
@@jeraldmiranda9809 @Christopher Glen I never said Tokugawa Ieyasu as brilliant strategist/tactician either. It was Nobunaga Oda who build the foundation for the unification with his tenacity and brutal efficiency. But even Oda was not really a military genius, he was good general and charismatic figure, but not a military genius.
@@ihl0700677525 you should study more if you think nobunaga is not a military genius. Battle of okehazama and eapecially nagashino where he used matchlock firearms to change how battles are done in japan
Could you please name the sound track that plays right at the beginning, from the 0:00 mark? I tried searching the OSTs of the video games you've mentioned in the description but I couldn't find it.
Yes! Next time is Shikoku, I want to know how well did Chousokabe Motochika resisted against Hideyoshi and what made him so loyal to the Toyotomi. Also, when it will be the turn for 1st Battle of Ueda? If I remember well, it ocurred in 1585.
Wow this description has me view the battle of Komaki-Nagakute in a whole new light. I never knew the attempts to dislodge Ieyasu, or how.... as much as I'm not a fan of Tadakastu Honda~ that epic stall just kinda makes your heart race, the sheer amount of heroic generals in the warring states era~ is just baffling, sadly it's just a really tragic time. Though perhaps made japan stronger against outside influence.... maybe.
I'm sorry this has nothing to do with the video but can some one tell me the name or what is the "necklace" / belt of white balls that we see in some pictures? Norio the warrior monk From gost of tsushima does use one
Something that bothers me every time I think about this. At this time, the Hojo were allied with Ieyasu.. Why didn't he call on them to help at Komaki? It seems like that would have EASILY tipped the scales and Ieyasu could have moved on Kyoto after. I almost think Ieyasu wasn't even really concerned about defeating Hideyoshi and wanted to just have a show of strength so he'd be brought in as an ally and not vassal.
It'll likely be an even more difficult series to do but you should make something for the Three Kingdoms Period of China too..... Also does anyone know how often he releases a new video I've been binge watching the whole thing and now I've run out of episodes lol
He lost his eldest son and wife under oda.. he have whatever right to payback the oda.. but still he fought side by side with the oda.. with much smaller number of force.. he is not using the oda as stepping stone.. he just fought hard.. with the risk of total destruction of his clan if he loose.. he deserve to be the shogun from the day he was born..
Why wouldnt Hideoyoshi have mobilized once he found out that ieyasu's main force was tied up in battle at nagakute? Ieyasu would have then needed to fight hideyoshis men from Iwasaki castle, nagakute, and also hideoyoshis main force from komaki.
oh man, this channel called The Shogunate so i guess there will be no boshin war, right? it interesting becoz in boshin war it was the loser of sekigahara that brought down the Tokugawa; sweet mitsunari's revenge right there...
Hey, I just found your channel a few a weeks ago and loving your sengoku jidai series. However, there's one particular inaccuracy that I'm not very fond with and that is regarding the status of Takeda Katsuyori. In one of your videos, you mentioned that Katsuyori's mother, Suwahime is Takeda Shingen's niece and in turn implied that Katsuyori is an inbred. However this is inaccurate as Shigen's sister was married off to Suwa Yorishige in 1540 and Katsuyori was born in 1546. If Suwahime is indeed Shingen's niece, she would be at least 6 years old when she gave birth to Katsuyori, which is practically impossible. Here's are some facts regarding Suwahime: 1. She was born in 1530's to an unnamed mother - a date that is more believable as this place her age at around 16 y/o when she gave birth to Katsuyori. 2. The reason why Shigen's retainers object his decision to make her his concubine is because they didn't consider her as a noble birth. This is the same reason as to why Shingen initially named Katsuyori as Suwa clan's heir.
I know the concept is kind of odd and it densest help that there is not a lot of solid information regarding the subject out there but I personally got the information regarding Shingen's concubine-niece from Stephen Turnbull's Kawanakajima Osprey campaign book. He states: "Shingen also took the late Yorishige's daughter as his mistress. Taking one's own niece, whose father you have had murdered, as a mistress was not an auspicious move. Tongues wagged, and people said that no good would come of it. The lady of Suwa was indeed destined to bring nemesis to the house of Takeda - she bore Shingen a son called Katsuyori , who would lead his clan to destruction in 1575 at the famous battle of Nagashino."
@@TheShogunate I appreciate the feedback but, I honestly don't know what else can I say. I mean, I already state my case as to why Suwahime being Shingen's niece is impossible. I guess the only thing that I could say is that I hope you will touch upon this matter in your future video.
@Norikei Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I still choose to accept Stephen Turnbull's authority on this, but nonetheless it is an odd topic.
with Closed Captioning names should be capitalized. date masamune should be Date Masamune. and ieyasu tokugawa should be Ieyasu Tokugawa. otaclan should be Oda clan, Oda Nobunaga was the main Shogunate that influenced Japan's unification after 150 to 200 years of civil war, called that Warring States Period/Sengoku Jidai/戦国時代. Just saying. japan is a proper name of a country. it should be Japan. Please tell Google to fix their CCs. i'm a former Assistant English Teacher in Japan. i also used to live near Komaki City and Nagakute City in Central Japan. Tagata shrine's festival is good clean fun. 3 000 is 3,000. ☮️
Did you come across any mention of exploits by Hikosaka Mitsumasa at Komaki-Nagakute in your research? He is the son of Imagawa retainer that was introduced to Ieyasu by a cousin, Hikosaka Motomasa in Ieyasu's court. We know Mitsumasa was rewarded for his actions at the battle, later entrusted with governing Owari and East Mikawa. I am curious because I can trace my roots back to Mikawa with Hikosaka names. Love your videos BTW.
The funny part is people blames Ieyasu for betraying Toyotomi but not mention how Toyotomi userped power from Oda first. Another ironic part is Komaki-Nagakute showed how Ieyasu still remained loyal to his former masters clan. Challenging Toyotomi and holding ground at that time is pretty impressive. Ieyasu really have guts.
nemesis3587 yes, I can’t disagree with this one. Up until Mikatagahara, Ieyasu always led from the front. Whatever else about his character, his courage is in disputed,
Ieyasu was enduring until he know that his time will come
Ieyasu is by any measure a brave man and a great tactician. But its not so much just pure loyalty on Ieyasu's part. In times such as the Sengoku, whatever samurai virtue that has been romanticized in legends and stories has to be discounted.
We all know the cunning and opportunistic character Ieyasu was. He probably already has sights on becoming shogun himself, changing his family name (some say his Minamoto lineage was forged). He would probably know its a very long shot, but set himself a platform nonetheless.
I believe his alliance to Nobukatsu is more of a strategy to have a chance to tilt the massive balance of power Hideyoshi held. Nobunaga had adult sons ready to succeed, but Hideyoshi had usurped with Nobunaga's toddler grandson, plain for all to see and a very legit excuse to call to arms against him.
If Ieyasu does not help Nobukatsu, and Nobukatsu submits, it further entrench Hideyoshi as the new overlord. If he succeed with helping Nobukatsu, win a few decisive battle, sway other daimyos to his side (he already has Hojo), that definitelty has the chance to tilt the power balance. Hideyoshi may be weakened and Ieyasu can benefit from the ensuing chaos.
If Hideyoshi goes on to fully secure his title and power as Nobunaga's successor, Ieyasu wont know if he will ever live to see himself having a chance to be shogun. Of course we all know he did anyway.
And dont forget Tsukiyama and Nobuyasu. Long story short I think Ieyasu took an opportunistic gamble with Nobukatsu, little if anything to do with loyalty.
@@jurtra9090
If a bird doesn't sing, kill it
If a bird doesn't sing, ask it to sing
If a bird doesn't sing, wait for it to sing
Nobunaga sheds blood and kills for glory
Hideyoshi persuades men to follow him
Ieyasu waits for his moment to rise to glory
Honestly for all the criticism Oda Nobunaga gets, one can argue he was much better alive. This could have been avoided had that traitor Mitsuhide not succeeded.
How far the Oda have fallen that Mori Nagayoshi would lead an army to seize their lands after his father and four of his brothers died in service to the clan, including three of them at Honnouji itself.
Kenshin and Shingen
Zhuge Liang and Sima Yi
Hideyoshi and Ieyasu
When rivals of matched abilities do battle both ultimately win as their names and conflicts go down forever in history to be remembered as the stuff legends are born from.
Remember winner writes the history
@@isaganipagarajr3298 not really, so do the losers and bystanders. Good examples are the German Generals of WWII and the Shu Han official who wrote the first collective records of the Three Kingdoms. For bystanders you have all the British, French and Prussian observers of the US Civil War. History is not just written by the victors, it can be shaped by anyone.
@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 You're not a kpop stan are you? But you are a salad tosser for watching this for that reason.
@@darkwhy3930 Are you daft or just putting random words together?
@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 Both and no more.
Keep going The Shogunate, we wait for this 💕
This series is way better than GoT
Viewing the conflict from the much wider perspective, it wasn't simply the head-on clash between Hashiba Hideyoshi and Tokugawa Ieyasu. Remember that the other factions / clans / leaders were also on the moves while Hideyoshi had been fighting against the Oda-Tokugawa coalition.
A series of diplomatic moves and coalitions was rapidly being weaved around the time of AD 1584, centered around the "anti-Hideyoshi coalition" versus "pro-Hideyoshi coalition" in the West, and the "anti-Hojo coalition" in the Kanto region.
The Saiga-Negoro Ikki was threatening the suburb of Osaka from the Kishu, causing no minor trouble to Hideyoshi ; on top of that, Sassa Morimasa of Etchu rebelled against Hideyoshi and formed the alliance with Ieyasu. Chosokabe Motochika was adopting the anti-Hideyoshi stance and busying on sweeping the pro-Hideyoshi Sogō Masayasu for unification of Shikoku, a substantial threat at the southern flank of Hideyoshi ; and that's not all, the Hojo clan (which currently befriended with Tokugawa with political marriage) would likely send additional reinforcement to Tokugawa for the latter's cause.
As forementioned, the political situation was far more complicated, and Ieyasu wasn't the only troublesome enemy Hideyoshi had to cope with.
To counter such "anti-Hideyoshi coalition", Hideyoshi maintained the cordial relations with Mori and Uesugi, utilizing Uesugi to contain Morimasa at Hokuriku, and also actively collaborating with Hojo's long-standing enemies such as Satake and Utsunomiya to "curb" the Hojo movement. Since the Hojo expansionism in the Kanto region had made him a lot of enemies, it's not surprising that the formidable "anti-Hojo coalition" was formed culminated with the large-scale Battle of Numajiri, after which Hojo Ujimasa achieved significant advantage over a number of enemies.
With the Saiga-Negoro Ikki, Chosokabe Motochika and Sassa Norimasa defeated and humbled one by one, and Hojo too busying maintaining his control over the Kanto region and would not be expected for reliable support, Tokugawa Ieyasu was completely isolated in hopeless situation, had no choice but "submit" to Hideyoshi after the latter gave a "generous offer" he could hardly refuse.
Indeed, the AD 1586 Tensho Earthquake probably had decisive impact since it severely weakened the Hashiba clan's strength, persuaded Hideyoshi to adopt the more conciliatory policy in handling with Ieyasu instead of strong fist.
Just stay tuned for the uploader's subsequent episodes for revealing how the plots developed - I'll offer some interesting information and perspectives as the supplemental knowledge of this video.
No joke, you're my absolute favorite channel to chill and listen to when im feeling down. The way you narrate these videos is absolutely stunning. You get to the point, but also explain things very well. You make things sound like I'm being read a professionally written novel while explaining everything you need to in less than a half hour. I feel excited when big things happen, disappointed when different plans go wrong and sad when samurai/daimyo/shoguns i like die or fail with their grand plans. Im genuinely glad i found your channel, you sparked my interest in feudal Japan and i hope your channel becomes one of, if not THE biggest when it comes to feudal Japanese history. Keep up the good work man.
Ps. Sorry if this was a bit of a rant. 😔
No need to apologize, there are dozens of us who feel the same! (Dozens!)
I fully agree, if I can write essays and books as interesting as these I’ll be impressed! 😂
Two chess masters at the height of their prowess. I still wonder what would have been, had they continued their conflict. The new iteration of Uesugi Kenshin vs. Takeda Shingen perhaps?
Hashiba side would slowly lose influence. Hideyoshi at the core was a farmer who rised to the rank of daimyo and effectively regent (he never took the title of Shogun). Most clans in Japan at that time was descent from nobility (even the Tokugawa was claimed part of the branch family of the Imperial, the Fujiwara if I remembered correctly). Slowly a lot of noble birth samurai clan would slowly switch side to Ieyasu should the conflict prolong.
@@ryannguyen7466 Possible but not likely. The daimyo remained loyal even when he failed his two attempts to invade China. I think the most interesting thing about the sengoku-jidaai is the concept of gekokujo - the lower rising up over the higher - and samurai loyalty meant something different to the samurai in the 16th c. vs samurai of earlier (or even later!) eras.
Actually he is right
Im further examining that Ieyasu has something that Hideyoshi didnt have: hereditary vassals...
The Mikawa Samurais was traditionally loyal to Matsudaira/Tokugawa clan before he was even born...
Like Honda clans, Sakai clans, Okubo clans etc.
So in essence he has traditional "old guard" samurai families..
CompareD to Hideyoshi vassals like Kato Kiyomasa, Otani Yoshitsugu, Ishida Mitsunari]], etc, which only came to prominence during Hideyoshi rule and still carving their own names
To be fair, no matter who won, Hideyoshi would probably politically outmaneuver Ieyasu, but in the end be outlasted by him in turn
I am Japanese and I don't speak English very much, but it was very interesting!
This is one of the best history channels on UA-cam
I've wanted this portion of Samurai history covered like this for so long. I've seen every video (multiple times) to really soak in everything and it also gets me doing my own research to better understand the intricacies of this period. You are the man! Thank you so much for doing this, I hope this channel just blows up and gets more and more subscribers because this is such a fascinating subject. Hats off to you my friend!
Same, the videos could be five times longer to get all the more detailed and we still wouldn't have the full picture. Better than any fiction
Naomasa also got his fashion sense from Yamagaya Masakage - his red devil armor was actually inspired by the armor worn by the Takeda red cavalry
Naomasa picked a great guy to idolize
Mainly because he inherited a lot of Takeda retainers after they were defeated
Can I just say that this series have been extremely entertaining and insightful, when I see a new video in this series, I usually try to save it to the end of the day but cannot help but watching it much earlier. It is often one of the highlights of my day!
Another compelling episode , bringing history to life .
I look forward to the next one, many thanks for your hard work putting this series together it's much appreciated.
my favorite battle in Sengoku Jidai! the fact that nothing comes out of this shows the equality between both of them
Keep it going man! I always get a warm feeling in my heart when I see a new upload from this channel
Both Tokugawa Ieyasu and Hideyoshi in reality were hostile either as adversaries or companions, following Nobunaga’s Ambition of creating their own designs for Japan, however, Hideyoshi regarding the Eastern lands will join Kagekatsu Uesugi, Masayuki Sanada and Yoshishige Satake to cautiously spy Ieyasu, Ujimasa Hojo and Tohoku’s rising superstar Masamune Date.
Excellent delivery, riveting content, sumptuous visuals. The full package my friend👌
The best channel on you tube! Excellent presentation and informative, thank you
Honda Tadakatsu is regarded as the Zhang Fei of Japan. His actions in Nagakute resembled that of Zhang Fei's when the latter blocked Cao Cao's massive army that was pursuing his Lord Lui Bei.
I think he is even better than Zheng Fei
I mean in conduct of war.. Tadakatsu Honda is completely moralist who were admired by his vassals
Meanwhile Zhang Fei didnt command respect from his underlings, he even died in the hand of his own mens
To be fair, the feat of him fighting on the front lines of many battles during an era where matchlocks were introduced and not being injured (despite being extremely recognizable with his armor and antlers) is probably in the top five warrior greatest feats in world history
@@arielquelme Yeah it's like the guys who compared him to Lu Bu. It takes more than martial might and strategic prowess to be a true warrior; one needs loyalty, honor and perseverance on top of tall that. Tadakatsu has it all
Nobukatsu thought that he’s the one calling the shots but Ieyasu’s the guy actively fighting on the frontlines and he’s the actual man in charge of the whole shebang
I love your work !!! 😁So happy when a new EP comes out
15:18 “out of sheer boredom, Ikeda Tsuneoki came to Hideyoshi with a plan to dislodge Ieyasu” 😂 No, you need patience, see where the enemy strikes first, to win a battle not rash decisions! This is the art of war
For some reason I look at this battle as the pinnacle of samurai warfare in the Sengoku period. Both were esteemed tacticians with mighty armies, after they made peace their forces combined was arguably the mightiest in samurai history.
Well I'm sure the Hashiba/Toyotomi and Tokugawa will be the best of friends after this :D
KrimzonStriker they were, till Hideyoshi passed. One must understand that samurai oaths to a lord did not extend to his family. As soon as Hideyoshi was gone, Ieyasu took his chance.
Patience is virtue, and we can truly see how Ieyasu Tokugawa become the true winner in the Sengoku Jidai theatre.
Ieyasu was a treacherous, scheming snake.
@@mikeddh2018 Haha, that's also the truth !
@@mikeddh2018 Same can be said to Hideyoshi at larger extent. Many daimyos have behaved in same way if they wanted a success.
@@mikeddh2018It was also doesn't matter if he were traitor or not, he was the final and true winner of Japan. Toyotomi gained their well-deserved ending.
Nobunaga: Kill everyone
Hideyoshi: Make friends with everyone
Ieyasu: Patience leads to success
MY BOY DATE MASAMUNE. Probably my second favorite behind Uesugi Kenshin
Takeda Shingen all the way man. That cav is just too good.
Two unifiers of Japan clashes here. And iirc this is the battle when Ii Naomasa gains a notable reputation by slaying Ikeda Tsuneoki
History aside, i still cannot decided the best Komaki-Nagakute soundtrack in Samurai Warriors. I really love the Original version but the newer ones is also great
In my opinion, sw2xl is the best version of komaki nagakute. The flute part always gets me
I have been binging the living shit out these and I can't tell you how much I love them. Thank you.
don't know why people like Hideyoshi, he's a traitor to the core and should be remembered as such. he was nothing before Nobunaga, everything he has was given to him by Nobunaga and he repays this kindness by betraying his sons, destroying everything Nobunaga built and usurping power from his clan.
Hideyoshi is more of a traitor that Mitsuhide.
Because he actually fulfilled the dream that Nobunaga once had which is to unify Japan and to go further beyond the border to reach the ancient land of China.
Tokugawa Ieyasu only managed to take power from a powerhouse that already managed to completely unify Japan and if it's not for this old turd ambition the Toyotomi might live longer and ould continue to be the ruler of Japan.
Also in case you don't know Tokugawa Ieyasu has done a lot of terrible things too when he goes to fight in the "Siege of Osaka"
For instance he used the cannon to scare the Lady Yodo (the daughter of Azai Nagamasa and Oichi and the mother of Toyotomi Hideyori) to force the Toyotomi into a peace deal that basically destroy the defensive aspect of Osaka Castle in other words he use PTSD to win a siege because he is unable to win without it.
Then after the Siege of Osaka was completed Tokugawa Ieyasu executed Hideyori 7 year old son Toyotomi Kunimatsu and then leave the army that besiege Osaka Castle into their own devices basically he ignored the raping and killing that happened after the siege and executed the grandson of the man that has decided to not treated him as just another vassal after the battle of Komaki Nagakute.
What a way to pay respect for the man that give you a second chance at life Ieyasu good job 😑👍
@@arbiteroffate3601 this medieval japan, what are u talking about? as if Toyotomi and his men never do something much worse..
'go further beyond the border to reach the ancient land of China' .. do you actually belive that?
'What a way to pay respect for the man that give you a second chance ' .. Say that to Mitsunari
'if it's not for this old turd ambition the Toyotomi might live longer and ould continue to be the ruler of Japan' .. that old turd its much respected and charismatic than mitsunari, no one likes mitsunari neither his men or his allies, mitsunari bought destruction it self toward toyotomi clan.
What Hideyoshi did to his own, Hidetsugu also terrible
Which causing northern Faimyos like Mogami Yoshiaki anf Date Masamune change allegiance to Tokugawa clan
Welp found my new favorite channel.
I'm this far into your series after watching the netflix battle for japan series..Really really understand why it's shit now >.> they ignore so much it essentially turns into cliffnotes. I relaly appreciate your channel and making my job interesting to do ( since i stock shelves this is very relaxing to listen too )
Thank you for this great work.
Keep the videos coming! Such great edits
Great video!
First the Takeda, then the Uesugi and now the Oda. It's always kinda sad to see mighty clans you like fall.
At least the Uesugi and Oda continued to survive (to the point they are STILL AROUND).
Ah, Komaki-Nagakute, also features my favorite soundtrack in Samurai Warriors.
I just beat the level last night...
Love your work
Ikeda Tsuneoki was one of Nobunaga's trusted fellow and his mother nursed Nobunaga as well. It IS a shame that he turned his back at his lord and childhood friend for a piece of land.
This loosely reminds me of the Battle of Dyrrachium between Caesar and Pompey whereupon both sides just continued to build fortifications further and further before a breaking point.
This is awesome, thank you.
Suggestion! Could you do a video on the influential and powerful women of the Sengoku Jidai?
That would be ace!
@@AStonedLemon Oichi and her daughters would certainly qualify since they witnessed the Sengoku Jidai first hand and they're involved with the three men who are a significant part of that violent era
Good call 👍 That would be brilliant!
Thank you for your efforts.
Awesome, as always.
i didn't know Tokugawa was able commander. i always thought he was shrewd politician and extremely lucky person.
It also didn't hurt that he had some of the most effective samurai generals in his army.
Also Ieyasu is a very patient and has endure many mistakes and disastrous battles like in Mikatagahara
IMO, Ieyasu was good perhaps even great at everything but not the best.
He did have great retainers but TBF every great Daimyo did.
He was 17yo when imagawa order him to attack oda nobunaga.. he succeded to conquer few odas fortress.. before imagawa yoshimoto got killed at okehazama..
Yes FINALLY! please keep going 🙏🙏🙏
Amazing work.
A bit like a trial run of Sekigahara.
Have you watched any nhk taiga dramas. They are interesting historic shows about famous samurai and other important figures throughout Japanese history.
I have seen a few!
@@TheShogunate I've finished the ones about Hideyoshi and Nobunaga, and seeing some of these battles really helps :D
@Juan Vargas R They aren't great but they aren't total fiction. They have a kind of soso effort of being accurate.
The funny part also that after smashing Nagayoshi in Komaki, a Tokugawa best general and one of Ieyasu's four wargods", Yasumasa Sakakibara mocked Hideyoshi lowly britth origin and caused Hifeyoshilhy very angry
Godzilla tried to read this and f*cking died
What is happening in the mori clan this the second big chance they waste away
And why didn't Ieyasu leverage his alliance with the Hojo to bolster his numbers and steamroll Hideyoshi? They clearly had no love for him.
I really think this was all for show so Ieayasu could get ally status rather than vassal. He knew he'd outlive and scheme for ultimate power lol
Watching this episode, I conclude that Hideyoshi was indeed a crafty person and a brilliant schemer/politician, but I seriously doubt his military acumen.
The Imjin war show how terrible he was when dealing against enemies he could not bribe (i.e. the Koreans and the Chinese).
Immanuel Herman Really? Ieyasu relied on a portion of the enemy army to defect to win at Sekigahara.
However, in the battles Hideyoshi won, he tended to have superior numbers.
His preferred style was to win without fighting, and at this he excelled.
He is one of the best in castle siege. As for the imjin war, he was hands off as far as strategy is concern. Ieyasu on the other hand has not shown great military skills. He lost to the sanada twice, lost to shingen. He was just lucky in sekigahara
@@jeraldmiranda9809 @Christopher Glen I never said Tokugawa Ieyasu as brilliant strategist/tactician either. It was Nobunaga Oda who build the foundation for the unification with his tenacity and brutal efficiency.
But even Oda was not really a military genius, he was good general and charismatic figure, but not a military genius.
@@ihl0700677525 you should study more if you think nobunaga is not a military genius. Battle of okehazama and eapecially nagashino where he used matchlock firearms to change how battles are done in japan
Could you please name the sound track that plays right at the beginning, from the 0:00 mark? I tried searching the OSTs of the video games you've mentioned in the description but I couldn't find it.
Yes! Next time is Shikoku, I want to know how well did Chousokabe Motochika resisted against Hideyoshi and what made him so loyal to the Toyotomi.
Also, when it will be the turn for 1st Battle of Ueda? If I remember well, it ocurred in 1585.
Just saw a new video, that's instant like
Wow this description has me view the battle of Komaki-Nagakute in a whole new light. I never knew the attempts to dislodge Ieyasu, or how.... as much as I'm not a fan of Tadakastu Honda~ that epic stall
just kinda makes your heart race, the sheer amount of heroic generals in the warring states era~ is just baffling, sadly it's just a really tragic time. Though perhaps made japan stronger against outside influence.... maybe.
I'm sorry this has nothing to do with the video but can some one tell me the name or what is the "necklace" / belt of white balls that we see in some pictures? Norio the warrior monk From gost of tsushima does use one
The first step to manifest the great shogunate...
Something that bothers me every time I think about this.
At this time, the Hojo were allied with Ieyasu.. Why didn't he call on them to help at Komaki? It seems like that would have EASILY tipped the scales and Ieyasu could have moved on Kyoto after.
I almost think Ieyasu wasn't even really concerned about defeating Hideyoshi and wanted to just have a show of strength so he'd be brought in as an ally and not vassal.
It'll likely be an even more difficult series to do but you should make something for the Three Kingdoms Period of China too..... Also does anyone know how often he releases a new video I've been binge watching the whole thing and now I've run out of episodes lol
Komaki-Nagakute: The start of Hideyoshi's downfall.
Sanada Yukimura or Honda Tadakatsu who was greater for you?
Both are great but I will always consider Yukimura #1
Honda Tadakatsu achievement is greater than Yukimura.
Honda Tadakatsu as an individual was strong, but who made the best strategies was Sanada Yukimura.
Yes but Honda Tadakatsu has a badass boss like theme in the Samurai Warriors' games while Yukimura doesn't i think but correct me if I'm wrong xD
@@diogocoelho2783 In Sengoku BASARA and Nioh is the opposite XD
He lost his eldest son and wife under oda.. he have whatever right to payback the oda.. but still he fought side by side with the oda.. with much smaller number of force.. he is not using the oda as stepping stone.. he just fought hard.. with the risk of total destruction of his clan if he loose.. he deserve to be the shogun from the day he was born..
AHHHH NEW VIDEO
Why wouldnt Hideoyoshi have mobilized once he found out that ieyasu's main force was tied up in battle at nagakute? Ieyasu would have then needed to fight hideyoshis men from Iwasaki castle, nagakute, and also hideoyoshis main force from komaki.
i always thought it was "Toyotomi" Hideyoshi. hmm now i need to do more research
I can’t wait for the next episode!!! Still waiting for the face reveal shogun-kun!!!!
So Tsuneoki forces Ieyasu to separate his forces just as they planned. Did Hideyoshi not attack the even now smaller remaining Tokugawa forces?
oh man, this channel called The Shogunate so i guess there will be no boshin war, right? it interesting becoz in boshin war it was the loser of sekigahara that brought down the Tokugawa; sweet mitsunari's revenge right there...
The Chosokabe, Mori and Shimazu would bring down the almighty Tokugawa Shogunate during the Bakumatsu Era
Can you make video about otomo
Once I finish making the Sengoku Jidai series I plan on coming back to make whole clan history videos!
@@TheShogunate that would be amazing!! From any era or mostly Sengoku Jidai?
@@khal7702 Any and all!
@@TheShogunate can't wait! Obviously Oda, Sanada, Saito, Takeda I'm most interested in but can't wait to discover many new favorites!
Wasn't the intro the theme from samurai warriors?
Yep!
Tokugawa/Date forever!
Hey, I just found your channel a few a weeks ago and loving your sengoku jidai series. However, there's one particular inaccuracy that I'm not very fond with and that is regarding the status of Takeda Katsuyori. In one of your videos, you mentioned that Katsuyori's mother, Suwahime is Takeda Shingen's niece and in turn implied that Katsuyori is an inbred. However this is inaccurate as Shigen's sister was married off to Suwa Yorishige in 1540 and Katsuyori was born in 1546. If Suwahime is indeed Shingen's niece, she would be at least 6 years old when she gave birth to Katsuyori, which is practically impossible.
Here's are some facts regarding Suwahime:
1. She was born in 1530's to an unnamed mother - a date that is more believable as this place her age at around 16 y/o when she gave birth to Katsuyori.
2. The reason why Shigen's retainers object his decision to make her his concubine is because they didn't consider her as a noble birth. This is the same reason as to why Shingen initially named Katsuyori as Suwa clan's heir.
I know the concept is kind of odd and it densest help that there is not a lot of solid information regarding the subject out there but I personally got the information regarding Shingen's concubine-niece from Stephen Turnbull's Kawanakajima Osprey campaign book.
He states: "Shingen also took the late Yorishige's daughter as his mistress. Taking one's own niece, whose father you have had murdered, as a mistress was not an auspicious move. Tongues wagged, and people said that no good would come of it. The lady of Suwa was indeed destined to bring nemesis to the house of Takeda - she bore Shingen a son called Katsuyori , who would lead his clan to destruction in 1575 at the famous battle of Nagashino."
@@TheShogunate I appreciate the feedback but, I honestly don't know what else can I say. I mean, I already state my case as to why Suwahime being Shingen's niece is impossible. I guess the only thing that I could say is that I hope you will touch upon this matter in your future video.
@Norikei Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I still choose to accept Stephen Turnbull's authority on this, but nonetheless it is an odd topic.
did Iyeasu and Hideyoshi go to these battles? Or were they just sitting?
If Nobunaga got to be alive and see them fighting, he’ll say this
“What are you wimps gonna do, are ya gonna fight or play hide and seek?!”
SO Hideyoshi WON THIS BATTLE
Ahahahah
keep up
Nobukatsu is horrible. He was d one who started d war and gave up first.
Hideyoshi married his sister off to Ieyasu and sent his mother to Ieyasu too.
with Closed Captioning names should be capitalized. date masamune should be Date Masamune. and ieyasu tokugawa should be Ieyasu Tokugawa. otaclan should be Oda clan, Oda Nobunaga was the main Shogunate that influenced Japan's unification after 150 to 200 years of civil war, called that Warring States Period/Sengoku Jidai/戦国時代.
Just saying. japan is a proper name of a country. it should be Japan. Please tell Google to fix their CCs. i'm a former Assistant English Teacher in Japan. i also used to live near Komaki City and Nagakute City in Central Japan. Tagata shrine's festival is good clean fun.
3 000 is 3,000. ☮️
Yeeeeesssss
could you pleas review film sekigahara(2017). Is it a complete disaster and unwatchable?
I will definitely be checking it out at some point!
The movie made Mitsunari look like a noble hero while Tokugawa is a scheming dick
Did you come across any mention of exploits by Hikosaka Mitsumasa at Komaki-Nagakute in your research? He is the son of Imagawa retainer that was introduced to Ieyasu by a cousin, Hikosaka Motomasa in Ieyasu's court. We know Mitsumasa was rewarded for his actions at the battle, later entrusted with governing Owari and East Mikawa. I am curious because I can trace my roots back to Mikawa with Hikosaka names. Love your videos BTW.
Russian subtitles please
with Closed Captioning names should be capitalized. date masamune should be Date Masamune. and tokugawa should be Tokugawa.
Just saying.
My be he should lend me his sister
Both Hideyoshi and Ieyasu won but the Oda lost
That Mike rodic is going to kill me re because he says I'm gay .will see a about that
Total War: Shogun 2 LOL
matchlock campers n00b no skillz l2p