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Yea I totally understand where your coming from that is why I addressed the playstyle change in the video. I think as long as flicker has the text "You cannot gain power charge while using this skill", it will be this way. The old way of playing flicker in poe 1 is dead, but that doesn't mean flicker is dead. Think about it like omnislash for jugg in dota 2. The build is build around omni not stormwave so to speak, so flicker will do 3 to 4x the damage of stormwave. If you want to play stormwave as the main skill this is not the build. You could optimize stormwave to do way more damage then what I show.
For chest at lvl 47 i went with the unique chest piece that gives evasion based on overcaped lightning resist, es on overcapped cold, and armor on over capped fire
Is there a difference between melee crit strike chance and crit strike chance for attacks? I annointed overwhelming strike instead cus it had some crit damage also but if theres a difference ill switch.
No it should scale the same if its like poe 1 and I think it is so you should be good to go. I chose that node because it was cheap for me at the time.
So, a few questions. First of all how do you generate power charges except for dodge roll? Is there any mechanic that I missed? Secondary, don’t you think you are losing a lot of damage by not having charged staff? Because it scales extremely well with flicker strike, assuming you can sustain both; this is where deadeye comes in imo.
So for charge generation, its a mix of profane with cos, siphon with shocks, and dodge. I agree charge staff is very good, but I hate how it feels when it competes with flicker. So am I losing damage there yes I can agree I am. I am currently thinking about saving up for hateforge to solve this problem. The other issue I am running into is skill slots, so if I take charge staff then I lose bell, so idk I am still playing with it tbh. I might totally convert to charge staff, but not sure yet. I will eventually make a super endgame build addressing this but just not there yet. The current build was meant to feel good and smooth while playing even if total optimization isn't quite there yet. If you have any other questions or comments, I would love to keep discussing. I think we are all trying to figure out what is best!
Thanks a lot for the detailed response! I havent created a flicker character yet, and I fully convinced going for Deadye, but ever since I saw the Evasion Energy shield passive for invoker, you have me question my choices haha.. They just announced on nerfing mob damage across the board, so it feels like invoker is going to be so incredibly strong and surviving with your build... ughh
I think for damage it is good, I just hate that it competes with flicker, so I don't use it. Potentially hateforge could fix this but I need to save up for one. Also I am running so many auras, that if I wanted to run charge staff I think you drop bell. Still trying to figure this one out.
@@CitadeleTV could you explaine it for someone new to poe? You mean zhe spell Profane with cos( whats cos?) and the other words i also dont understand in thi context xd
Hahaha, yea I made a video reading the patch notes, you should have seen the smile on my face lol. Not because I want it to get nerfed but because I called it. Anyways thanks again for the support!
I'm not sure. There is a passive that converts evasion to spirt, without that getting the required spirt would be hard and hurt the build trying to obtain the spirt needed
Idk if it works but when I did a trial that gave me points the other ascendency showed up for me I didn’t click on it tho because I didn’t want to change my ascendency, I just backed out of that screen and added the points
I think @theargo4530 is right, the problem is you wont be able to slot the auras unless you can buy gear that gets you there. Which I am guessing would be very expensive or even not possible with current gear options. Other than that you could but it would be a much different build than invoker, and would run into other problems. But might do great chaos damage lol
hahaha, sorry about that, but tbh, a high phs base staff has always been expensive seeing as there is currently no good way to convert phy to elemental. Also the scale of elemental or the range is much much worse than poe 1. So if your playing flicker or not a super high phys base is the way to go.
Yea cold is very good, but the way people do cold from my understanding is by playing combat frenzy, with convert, which would brick siphon strike, profane in cos, and lingering. But cold is much more defensive for sure. If you want pure power charge increases, I think a better option would be to run hateforge, and rage. But then it wouldn't matter if you are playing cold or lightning. I do think cold will get nerfed with the current state it is in personally, but I could be wrong. Time will tell.
@@CitadeleTV use cast on crit with sniper mark (provides frenzy charge which will be converted to power charge) and combat frenzy as generators. Shattering palm is just way too good to be slept on.
Waiting to get my spirit enough, then def will be trying this build! Also since there is 8pts to ascendency now, would you put the 2 towards “and protect me from harm”?
Thanks @jbolestridge for answering, I was streaming. You will need Envy, ire, and guilt to annoint, you can hold alt over all skill nodes to see what it will take to annoint.
is elemental damage on attacks not really really good on a weapon ? you can have like 120% increased elemental damage suffix, or does it not work the way i think it does ?
No its very good if your playing something that converts most of its damage to a element, but you need to look at the skill to make sure it does that, cause your only getting 120% of the part that is converted. I am running pure phys flicker for scaling so doesn't benefit me that much. If your want storm wave to be your main skill then its good, because storm wave converts 80% to lightning.
If you go watch my other video, I explain what is happening.Flicker consumes charges differently than poe 1. tdlr: if you win the gamble of not using power charges you go again.
When did you really start noticing on death effects being a problem for flicker? So far I haven't had any issues but admittedly I just started mapping and am only in T4 maps. I freeze/shatter a lot due to cold on my weapon and I'm wondering if that cheeses any of the on death effects?
Almost immediately, never thought about shatter to stop that. Yea that would work because it removes the corpse. Man, cold is very defensive lol. I will continue on with lightning but yea that is why you don't notice. I was reading reddit today, and literal everyone is raging about on death lol.
@@CitadeleTV Yea cold was already better in this this aspect 10 years ago. But thats also why lightning has higher numeric rolls. Sad we just have to use phys as flat anyway so it doesnt even make a change.
@@isoldmymumforrp5371 What you can do is get a weapon with %phys, flat phys, and flat cold. The flat cold makes a big difference in your ability to freeze mobs, and you can utilize ice bite as well. Once ice bite it up, you're going to freeze everything when you crit.
@@CitadeleTV Ahh I see, guess that's another reason ice strike is OP. My build uses that as the main clear with flicker as a gap closer and most importantly a breach clearer. It's sooo good with breach where you can reliably chain and zoom to the other side of the breach (running is just too slow, even with 30% MS boots and 12% MS on the tree).
Bless you! Magefist has been slacking, and I needed help getting my Chronomancer to a decent spot to Flicker. I'm going the Voll's route into CI eventually, but I needed some help getting started and this was perfect. Keep it up!
Hahaha, hey now he is the OG, I have been watching Magefist for a long time now. That being said I am glad I could help! If you have any questions moving forward happy to answer them.
Why dont you play charged staff? I prefer this version over perma freeze build aswell, but charged staff is like one of the main reasons to, its just way too powerful.
I think charge staff is good, but I just hate that it competes with flicker, so I don't use it. Potentially hateforge could fix this but I need to save up for one. Also I am running so many auras, that if I wanted to run charge staff I think you drop bell, because of lack of skill slots. Still trying to figure this one out.
@@CitadeleTV I really wanted to play with volls, 25% to get a power charge on crit with 3 waves or storm wave is like perma full charges, but then you would lose the spirit setup, which is ass aswell.
So herald of thunder is all I can speak on, and for it, storm wave with shock chance will proc it all the time. Also on flicker I have lightning infusion so all my phys turns into extra lightning damage.
how tf do you level with monk though I feel squishy + just die before killing white mobs lol any help? also levling melee classes (warrior, monk) is hard tbh or im just bad
I stopped playing monk, for a melee class, they just are to squishy. Went ranger and got to mapping in under 8 hours. I want to revisit monk, but the fact you are always surrounded by trash mobs and just destroyed before you can do anything
Honestly the hardest part of leveling monk is getting past act 2. Once you get charged staff it gets waaaayyyy better. Until then yes it is hard. but the suggestion @feeege said is also very good as well.
according to google 48, and it seems like too much so lets increase the size of the teaspoon so that is a better number, like 12, yea 12 would be great so it matches inches to feet freedom units.
Better yet, they tell you never to break character but I'm gonna break character. My brain is one that cannot stop and has to solve problems, so ngl I was literally thinking about this about to fall asleep when it dawned on me. So the current formula is 3 teaspoons = 1 tablespoon, 16 tablespoons = 1 cup, (that is like oz to a pound) okay cool, so then 4 cups = a quart, and 4 quarts = a gallon so 16 cups = a gallon. So WHY THE HECK is teaspoons 3, when everything is divisible by 4. So I would like to change my answer we should make teaspoons a little bit smaller so that it is 4 teaspoons per table spoon. Then everything is divisible by 4 and while we are at it remove pints so that we don't have a random 2 in there ie 2 cups for a pint. That way its 4 teaspoons, 16 tablespoons, 4 cups, 4 quarts, 1 gallon. Now you know the real me lolol, and I can go to sleep hahaha. Take it easy!
keep in mind that after 11 hits, the bell disappears. Not sure if the bell would hold up to the hits of Flickerstrike. Also when you drop that bell, there are targeting issues. The bell takes the primary aim, you won't be able to bounce back between targets. Get it a try but i think those are the two major isssues.
@@RadCamper bell and flicker are a great combo. Even if it doesn't hold up to every last hit (though it definitely can with enough levels) you're still getting a ton of procs very quickly.
Hey feel free to join our dis. If you ever get stuck on a boss or something feel free to message me. I am here to help the new players to poe be easier to understand and play! Thanks again!
Wow everyone thank you so much for the support!!! I just got home from work to see this video doing super well!!! Crazy!!
Please don't forget to subscribe as I am trying to get past the 1k mark that would help out a lot!!!
As for me commenting back to everyone, I work full time so I won't reply till in the evening after work, but I will do my absolute best to respond to all of you. Thank you again!!!
Nice work, thanks for putting in some time to help out others.
Anytime, trying to get new people to fall in love with poe like the rest of us lol!
it feels like a stormwave build more than a flicker build.
Yea I totally understand where your coming from that is why I addressed the playstyle change in the video. I think as long as flicker has the text "You cannot gain power charge while using this skill", it will be this way. The old way of playing flicker in poe 1 is dead, but that doesn't mean flicker is dead. Think about it like omnislash for jugg in dota 2. The build is build around omni not stormwave so to speak, so flicker will do 3 to 4x the damage of stormwave. If you want to play stormwave as the main skill this is not the build. You could optimize stormwave to do way more damage then what I show.
I like your build! Unlike the other complicated builds. 👌🏻
Elemental Expression is awesome. It procs from storm wave. Does great screen clear.
Storm Wave with elemental expression is reminding me of wild strike.
Great explanation!!! Thank you cannot wait for next update!!!!👍🏼
Thanks again for the support!!! Will keep you in the loop about the next updates. Look forward to talking with you in stream!
Amazing guide. Very well thought out! 10/10
Thank you! Will keep you up-to-date with any changes moving forward!
For chest at lvl 47 i went with the unique chest piece that gives evasion based on overcaped lightning resist, es on overcapped cold, and armor on over capped fire
Interesting had no clue about that. Might be a great option for early mapping! Ty for the info!
you are so patient in timing the flicker, you are my iimpressive thanks for sharing build
yes you are my impressive as well
you are my share for thanks
Anytime!!! Thank you again!
Is there a difference between melee crit strike chance and crit strike chance for attacks? I annointed overwhelming strike instead cus it had some crit damage also but if theres a difference ill switch.
No it should scale the same if its like poe 1 and I think it is so you should be good to go. I chose that node because it was cheap for me at the time.
Oh, nice. Thx for the reply!
So, a few questions. First of all how do you generate power charges except for dodge roll? Is there any mechanic that I missed? Secondary, don’t you think you are losing a lot of damage by not having charged staff? Because it scales extremely well with flicker strike, assuming you can sustain both; this is where deadeye comes in imo.
So for charge generation, its a mix of profane with cos, siphon with shocks, and dodge. I agree charge staff is very good, but I hate how it feels when it competes with flicker. So am I losing damage there yes I can agree I am. I am currently thinking about saving up for hateforge to solve this problem. The other issue I am running into is skill slots, so if I take charge staff then I lose bell, so idk I am still playing with it tbh. I might totally convert to charge staff, but not sure yet. I will eventually make a super endgame build addressing this but just not there yet. The current build was meant to feel good and smooth while playing even if total optimization isn't quite there yet. If you have any other questions or comments, I would love to keep discussing. I think we are all trying to figure out what is best!
Thanks a lot for the detailed response! I havent created a flicker character yet, and I fully convinced going for Deadye, but ever since I saw the Evasion Energy shield passive for invoker, you have me question my choices haha.. They just announced on nerfing mob damage across the board, so it feels like invoker is going to be so incredibly strong and surviving with your build... ughh
Great video. How do you feel about charged staff with flicker strike?
I think for damage it is good, I just hate that it competes with flicker, so I don't use it. Potentially hateforge could fix this but I need to save up for one. Also I am running so many auras, that if I wanted to run charge staff I think you drop bell. Still trying to figure this one out.
May I know how you get power charge ?
yep! profane with cos, siphon with shocks, and dodge roll!
How are you generating power charges?
profane with cos, siphon with shocks, and lingering. Thanks again!
@@CitadeleTV could you explaine it for someone new to poe? You mean zhe spell Profane with cos( whats cos?) and the other words i also dont understand in thi context xd
@@lucagatzi8175 cast on shock with profane ritual. siphon strike and lingering illusion
@@CitadeleTV I am confused about how to not run out of power charges when fighting a boss.
you said you tried an ascendancy, trie ? how did you switch?
Dope build! damn
Thanks! Appreciate it!
how to get more sirit if u use 180 spirit, campain give 60 sprit how to get more?
in patchnotes they already say the address freeze, you were right :D
Hahaha, yea I made a video reading the patch notes, you should have seen the smile on my face lol. Not because I want it to get nerfed but because I called it. Anyways thanks again for the support!
thanks for sharing this
If, for example, you were to have bricked your monk and picked acolyte of chayula, any way you can salvage it into playing this buil;d? :P
I'm not sure. There is a passive that converts evasion to spirt, without that getting the required spirt would be hard and hurt the build trying to obtain the spirt needed
Idk if it works but when I did a trial that gave me points the other ascendency showed up for me I didn’t click on it tho because I didn’t want to change my ascendency, I just backed out of that screen and added the points
I think @theargo4530 is right, the problem is you wont be able to slot the auras unless you can buy gear that gets you there. Which I am guessing would be very expensive or even not possible with current gear options. Other than that you could but it would be a much different build than invoker, and would run into other problems. But might do great chaos damage lol
So many videos out for FS monk. Sigh..goodbye cheap quarter staff upgrades
hahaha, sorry about that, but tbh, a high phs base staff has always been expensive seeing as there is currently no good way to convert phy to elemental. Also the scale of elemental or the range is much much worse than poe 1. So if your playing flicker or not a super high phys base is the way to go.
Good guide. If you were cold Specced you can generate power charges I believe a lot faster like way faster.
Yea cold is very good, but the way people do cold from my understanding is by playing combat frenzy, with convert, which would brick siphon strike, profane in cos, and lingering. But cold is much more defensive for sure. If you want pure power charge increases, I think a better option would be to run hateforge, and rage. But then it wouldn't matter if you are playing cold or lightning. I do think cold will get nerfed with the current state it is in personally, but I could be wrong. Time will tell.
@@CitadeleTV use cast on crit with sniper mark (provides frenzy charge which will be converted to power charge) and combat frenzy as generators. Shattering palm is just way too good to be slept on.
You can shotgun with upheaval on stormwave, thats how i melt bosses on my build
Awesome great to have confirmation! Thanks for the info!
Waiting to get my spirit enough, then def will be trying this build! Also since there is 8pts to ascendency now, would you put the 2 towards “and protect me from harm”?
No I think if your running a pure evasion base, makes pure evasion feel really good I would get ...and I shall rage for unbound avatar
How do u get a node alone down there when there is no path to it on tree ? I mean deadly flourish
annointment on amulet
Thanks @jbolestridge for answering, I was streaming. You will need Envy, ire, and guilt to annoint, you can hold alt over all skill nodes to see what it will take to annoint.
is elemental damage on attacks not really really good on a weapon ? you can have like 120% increased elemental damage suffix, or does it not work the way i think it does ?
it is for like tempest flurry, i reckon, cos it converts
No its very good if your playing something that converts most of its damage to a element, but you need to look at the skill to make sure it does that, cause your only getting 120% of the part that is converted. I am running pure phys flicker for scaling so doesn't benefit me that much. If your want storm wave to be your main skill then its good, because storm wave converts 80% to lightning.
@@CitadeleTV Ahh okay, I run a tempest flurry/flicker strike and the convert 25% to lightning on flicker, it performs really well in T7s so far
How do you flickerstep nonstop? Mine stop after a few hits even though having 5 power charges
If you go watch my other video, I explain what is happening.Flicker consumes charges differently than poe 1. tdlr: if you win the gamble of not using power charges you go again.
Thank you, Keep it up!
When did you really start noticing on death effects being a problem for flicker? So far I haven't had any issues but admittedly I just started mapping and am only in T4 maps. I freeze/shatter a lot due to cold on my weapon and I'm wondering if that cheeses any of the on death effects?
If you shatter an enemy, their on death effects wont trigger.
Almost immediately, never thought about shatter to stop that. Yea that would work because it removes the corpse. Man, cold is very defensive lol. I will continue on with lightning but yea that is why you don't notice. I was reading reddit today, and literal everyone is raging about on death lol.
@@CitadeleTV Yea cold was already better in this this aspect 10 years ago. But thats also why lightning has higher numeric rolls.
Sad we just have to use phys as flat anyway so it doesnt even make a change.
@@isoldmymumforrp5371 What you can do is get a weapon with %phys, flat phys, and flat cold. The flat cold makes a big difference in your ability to freeze mobs, and you can utilize ice bite as well. Once ice bite it up, you're going to freeze everything when you crit.
@@CitadeleTV Ahh I see, guess that's another reason ice strike is OP. My build uses that as the main clear with flicker as a gap closer and most importantly a breach clearer. It's sooo good with breach where you can reliably chain and zoom to the other side of the breach (running is just too slow, even with 30% MS boots and 12% MS on the tree).
bro you need crit damage bonus on your weapon, it multiplicative with passive tree crit bonus stuff
Bless you! Magefist has been slacking, and I needed help getting my Chronomancer to a decent spot to Flicker. I'm going the Voll's route into CI eventually, but I needed some help getting started and this was perfect. Keep it up!
Hahaha, hey now he is the OG, I have been watching Magefist for a long time now. That being said I am glad I could help! If you have any questions moving forward happy to answer them.
How dare he have a life / enjoy the game :P
hi, can u share your build, trying build chronomancer melee
What was that green orb thing at the beginning
Had to go back and watch to see what you were talking about lol. That is the bosses attack though. Thanks again for the support!
im currently having the problem that my flickerstrike is only doing around 5k dps, how can i increase it?
hey Exem talked to you on stream! hope it works well best of luck!
Why dont you play charged staff? I prefer this version over perma freeze build aswell, but charged staff is like one of the main reasons to, its just way too powerful.
I think charge staff is good, but I just hate that it competes with flicker, so I don't use it. Potentially hateforge could fix this but I need to save up for one. Also I am running so many auras, that if I wanted to run charge staff I think you drop bell, because of lack of skill slots. Still trying to figure this one out.
@@CitadeleTV I really wanted to play with volls, 25% to get a power charge on crit with 3 waves or storm wave is like perma full charges, but then you would lose the spirit setup, which is ass aswell.
@@CitadeleTVwhy would you drop bell and it competing makes no sense just use it as a generator on the bell for single target but whatever
I run out of skill slots.... That's the problem is I can't fit it.
@@CitadeleTV sure but you can fix that with gear upgrades
How do you convert flicker to ele damage so heralds proc?
So herald of thunder is all I can speak on, and for it, storm wave with shock chance will proc it all the time. Also on flicker I have lightning infusion so all my phys turns into extra lightning damage.
How much evasion do you have?
Been enjoying this I got to end game and got bored tho im doing ranger now
totally understand! Play what is fun for you! It's a game, play what you enjoy!
how tf do you level with monk though I feel squishy + just die before killing white mobs lol any help? also levling melee classes (warrior, monk) is hard tbh or im just bad
Get more resistances and damage on gear and qstaff, bout 40 to 50 % on elemental res works fine
I stopped playing monk, for a melee class, they just are to squishy. Went ranger and got to mapping in under 8 hours. I want to revisit monk, but the fact you are always surrounded by trash mobs and just destroyed before you can do anything
Honestly the hardest part of leveling monk is getting past act 2. Once you get charged staff it gets waaaayyyy better. Until then yes it is hard. but the suggestion @feeege said is also very good as well.
@CitadeleTV you are way too nervous with your mouse hovering over tooltips mate... keep it there for at least 3 seconds
How many teaspoons is one cup? And what are you going to do about it?
according to google 48, and it seems like too much so lets increase the size of the teaspoon so that is a better number, like 12, yea 12 would be great so it matches inches to feet freedom units.
@CitadeleTV Damn bro I didn't know you were chill like that
Better yet, they tell you never to break character but I'm gonna break character. My brain is one that cannot stop and has to solve problems, so ngl I was literally thinking about this about to fall asleep when it dawned on me. So the current formula is 3 teaspoons = 1 tablespoon, 16 tablespoons = 1 cup, (that is like oz to a pound) okay cool, so then 4 cups = a quart, and 4 quarts = a gallon so 16 cups = a gallon. So WHY THE HECK is teaspoons 3, when everything is divisible by 4. So I would like to change my answer we should make teaspoons a little bit smaller so that it is 4 teaspoons per table spoon. Then everything is divisible by 4 and while we are at it remove pints so that we don't have a random 2 in there ie 2 cups for a pint. That way its 4 teaspoons, 16 tablespoons, 4 cups, 4 quarts, 1 gallon. Now you know the real me lolol, and I can go to sleep hahaha. Take it easy!
do you think cos is nerfed?
How did you got 220 spirit ?
Invoker Node "Lead me through Grace" with a 1800 evasion chest
@@CitadeleTV i see that but 1800 = 120 spirit , 120+30 from boss = 150 is misingo 70 spirit...right?
Do we need 6 links for flicker? Or is it mandatory?
No you can make it work with even a 2 link but the more links the more damage.
Niceeee tyy, i really want be an fliker 😅
hahaha, feel free to join the club lol
I’ve just totally re rolled after seeing this 😮 titan got nothing on this. Ty great and easy video to follow gladly subscribed.
Titan is juiced brother and I have a monk
Hahaha, thank you its ton of fun, but yea @andunano9769 is right bleed warrior does alot of damage as well. I play flicker because its flicker lol.
apart from the fact that Titan can literally one shot all bosses (:
Let's hope ggg doesn't nerf this too hard, subbed
I think this build will be safe. The only nerf that could hurt it is to nerf physical damage on weapons. Which would nerf everything. Ty again!
nice build
Thank you so much!
how can u have cast on shock with that low intelligence?
I run a level 10 gem. Once I get more int I will upgrade it.
can you flickerstrike the bell? :O i can dash on it with icestrike so why no? :O
u can y.
keep in mind that after 11 hits, the bell disappears. Not sure if the bell would hold up to the hits of Flickerstrike. Also when you drop that bell, there are targeting issues. The bell takes the primary aim, you won't be able to bounce back between targets. Get it a try but i think those are the two major isssues.
@@RadCamper bell goes up, mines at 22 atm.
@@RadCamper bell and flicker are a great combo. Even if it doesn't hold up to every last hit (though it definitely can with enough levels) you're still getting a ton of procs very quickly.
@@RadCamper thats at lvl 1, lvl 20 its 19 hits + 3 per 10% quality so 25 or 28 with Gemling :O
I wish respecting wasn't so expensive it would be fun to try out different ideas
It just got chesper
@DevilDandruff really
I think its not out yet, as it was a announcement not a patch note. Hopefully it will be out before the holidays!
very nice 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
how to get power charge
profane with cos, siphon with shocks, and lingering. Thanks again!
I just started POE2 today. If anyone experience wants to play with me and help me get this build going let me know.
Hey feel free to join our dis. If you ever get stuck on a boss or something feel free to message me. I am here to help the new players to poe be easier to understand and play! Thanks again!
So sad that a flicker build has to use other skill, miss old flicker :(
At least now flicker has more single target
Ty for ur vid
Yep def not the same, but at least it works, glad it has some purpose. Thanks again!
Only missing multistrike
Ty for the guide my friend. Maybe ill start playing now😅
Your welcome, if you have any questions while play feel free to hop in my stream! I try to answer every message that gets posted! Thanks again!
@CitadeleTV awesome😁 tyvm
Nice. Can this do t15?
Yep the video at the beginning was a tier 15 boss. Works totally fine as long as your 85% evasion works hahaha.