Great video! I believe King also has the option of doing b, f+1+2: it's an i10 back throw for 75 damage if they hold back, turns into unbreakable Muscle Buster if they power crush (50 damage), slightly harder to punish if they duck than b+1,2 for better average damage between those two options.
This is a great video even as a Lili player cause it helps me to better understand when there's a higher risk to using the bt heat smash and who it's riskier to use it against in general.
@@konfidentgrog np. Really useful video cause I'm ngl, I was so lost on how people could punish me for it cause it varied so much and I couldn't be bothered to lab every characters option 😭😭 So this video is a gem thanks again!
Yoshi can punish with flash at the wall however regular flash is sometimes a bit Inconsistent but is also +16 In that situation so its a launch punish even without heat Or nss
Even if I can punish this okay with Lee (not enough, if you ask me), it's complete garbage that she has a basically (or completely in certain matchups) safe low heat smash. Not like coming out of backturn is much of a restriction for Lili, she's already scary enough there anyway.
Yeah, that's why it's so important that it's a mid to just beat dick jabs or if she tries to duck. The options that loses to duck I mentioned specifically that they aren't true OS punishes. To fullfill all the criterias to be a true OS punish it needs to be: An i13 mid or faster that has enough range
I actually totally forgot about that move since I knew Df+4, 4 would work, haha. So I went and tried it out and yes, it does work! So do Db+1, 2 instead.
thank you for giving us this video but still an unseeable low smash (unparryable) shouldn't have this much of pushback especially when she also have a -11 on block normal hit launcher mid from bt
Delete pls. ❤️❤️❤️
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The character from the game? Yeah, I agreee
The work you put in for this community is tremendous!! Thank you!!
Thank you for watching :)
Great video! I believe King also has the option of doing b, f+1+2: it's an i10 back throw for 75 damage if they hold back, turns into unbreakable Muscle Buster if they power crush (50 damage), slightly harder to punish if they duck than b+1,2 for better average damage between those two options.
This is a great video even as a Lili player cause it helps me to better understand when there's a higher risk to using the bt heat smash and who it's riskier to use it against in general.
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@@AZYG4LYFE helloooooo
That was my intention so I glad you thought of that :)
@@konfidentgrog np. Really useful video cause I'm ngl, I was so lost on how people could punish me for it cause it varied so much and I couldn't be bothered to lab every characters option 😭😭
So this video is a gem thanks again!
Yoshi can punish with flash at the wall however regular flash is sometimes a bit Inconsistent but is also +16 In that situation so its a launch punish even without heat Or nss
safe on block low heat smash is such a stupid idea
I didn't even think other characters had it that bad,, I have no problems with the d/f+4,4 punish
Yeah, Lee has super good punishment for this.
Just don't pick Lidia!
Even if I can punish this okay with Lee (not enough, if you ask me), it's complete garbage that she has a basically (or completely in certain matchups) safe low heat smash. Not like coming out of backturn is much of a restriction for Lili, she's already scary enough there anyway.
What if Lili do fd+1 instead power crush does all this still work?
Yeah, that's why it's so important that it's a mid to just beat dick jabs or if she tries to duck.
The options that loses to duck I mentioned specifically that they aren't true OS punishes.
To fullfill all the criterias to be a true OS punish it needs to be:
An i13 mid or faster that has enough range
Law maybe can use df3+4 for optimal punish?
Does Kaz db1,2 not work? It has a lot of range so whiffing is probably not gonna happen and its an i13 mid.
I actually totally forgot about that move since I knew Df+4, 4 would work, haha.
So I went and tried it out and yes, it does work! So do Db+1, 2 instead.
@konfidentgrog ah I see, thank you for the effort.
For Lidia, i think political storm works as a punish bc Lili can’t duck the first hit without getting hit by the second mid hit
It won't beat the powercrush since it's i14 :(
thank you for giving us this video
but still an unseeable low smash (unparryable) shouldn't have this much of pushback especially when she also have a -11 on block normal hit launcher mid from bt