Sugar Cane Mill Restoration: Fighting to Disassemble Three Cane Mills
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Sugar Cane Mill Restoration: Fighting to Disassemble Three Cane Mills
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My favorite vids are the cane mill restorations.
Your ingenuity at these repairs is incredible. No matter how many of your videos I watch I am always impressed!
Keith "I won the war". Cane Mill "It's not over yet"
Never a truer word was said.....
Brings back memories Keith. My folks used 1 of those powered by a mule harnessed to a pole. The adults and big kids would feed the cane into the gears, it was fascinating to watch the juice dripping into the chute. We had a big square vat with a wood fire underneath boiling the juice down into sorghum molasses. As a little kid, my job was to stand by the vat and dip a cane stick into the molasses and taste it every 30 seconds.
Ok Bob, be honest now........ How many fights with your siblings did you get into over that job?
It's a tough job but somebody has to do it.
That's funny right there. : )
I spent 15 years in the merchant navy as an Engineer, the number of times we had what looked like simple jobs turn in to total mares I've lost count of. Seawater can turn anything to a rusty seized mess. But I felt for you.
Wow. Those cane mills just keep following you home. I think they like you.
There's no stopping a man who knows he's right and keeps on a-coming! Good work, sir.
The portable press is brilliant!
My back hurts just watching you fight the ol' girl. 4 hours? that would have took me a week and then give up. persistence pays off
The best thing about watching these jobs is finding out how to solve this kind of problem. Thanks for the pointers!
Thank you very much.
That is going to be real expensive syrup. Great job. I would have put a toe tag on it and notified the family. Thanks
Ironically, if the owner doesn't want to pay to fix it, he could find someone to sell it to that will pay Shopdog Keith to repair it and set it to rights. Lots of people out there with more money than good sense. 😀
Keefer, you are the most patient man I have ever seen.
GREAT JOB, GREAT VIDEO, SEE YOU WHEN...
nice job! "When you refuse to admit defeat, victory is the only option"
Just in case the person you're sending the job to cast the bearings doesn't have the formula; Taken from Cast Metals Handbook by American Foundrymen's Society, page 275 , under Table 35-33, "Bearings Self-lubricating" ; Cu 80%, Sn 10%, Pb 10% and Graphite (amount not given) or Cu 70%, Sn 5%, Pb 25%. Because of the higher lead content in the second formula, when the bearing is temporarily overheated the lead melts and coats the bronze between the rotating member of the device and the bearing protecting the bronze from damage. I hope this info helps.
hey mr cane mill kieth!!!! keep up the fine work!! lol!!!
would like to see project on planners.....in the future nice job Keith
High drama in the shop! :)
I really enjoy the old mill restoration video's thanks for the triple play Kieth and great job as always keep em coming!
Glad you got them all apart with no major parts breakage.
Nice workout! I see Mr Diresta in the background; not sure why I'm so interested in that bandsaw perhaps all the work you and your protege student put into it thus far...
Hey, I see the 48” Band saw in the background! Looking forward to seeing that completed.
Guess I’m not the only one
@@michaelsanzo5867 yeah. Using the press he made for that project and I see it there. That was the series that hit me hooked on him.
"Ding Dong" The word of the week.
Hiya Keith
Keith, you've unleashed a monster!
Hi Keith,
Another fine video! For those who have never seen a sorghum mill in operation, the movie "Hoosiers" has a great scene depicting the same.
Be well & Best regards, Gottfried
What a great video Keith. Loved how you described the previous repairs as done by a 'ding-dong'; lovely expression! Keep up the good work sir. Thanks for doing such informative and entertaining videos.
Sorghrum molasses and biscuits 😋. Will work for biscuits.
Well Keith, you know how to have fun. You seem to get all the best jobs. Been there, done that, always a crap shoot. Thanks for sharing.
Wow, what a mess. Good luck and thanks for sharing.
lovely old machinery
21:32 Watch out, Keith! Now it's gone on the attack!
The gantry crane proved it's worth.
Thanks for another informative video🤗😎🤗😎
Well I hope the owner on the big one has deep pockets and an appreciation for the history he's saving because it sure will make good content! Good luck with everything Keith! Thanks for the video.
I say, sandblast, assemble and put a glass top on it. Then put it in front of your sofa. Make a mule happy!!……
Thank you for sharing.👍👀
Thanks for sharing 👍
Hoping the owner gives you the green light to fix that rusted out cane mill. I am sure it would be a real teaching opportunity on how to restore others like this.
As they say around here, the last one "had eaten your lunch". Thanks Keath quite a job, Thanks again for doing these video.
great vid. thanks. i got the 1000 like 👍👍 10000 more to go
That last mill, 20 or 30 years out in the weather. Rust like that doesn't happen overnight. Looks like the owner found it in a ditch.
Doing a “sweet” job Keith!
Keith Rucker....the Cane Mill Whisperer....
I can see lots of operations upcoming to finish these restorations.
You do good work thanks for sharing
When you were lifting the Chattanooga mill I was reminded of something my dad would say anytime he started a project ... "Let's open up this can. Will it be beans or will it be worms??"
Should be sponsored by Evap-O-Rust.
You certainly live up to your channel's name: VINTAGE Machinery! 🙂
A Festivus of restorations.
You Sir have earned a big Superman "S" for the front of your apron. Just so you know, the secret weapon is to talk dirty to the work piece. A few well chosen cuss words increases the power of the hammer strikes by two.
18:02 The old farmer fix. Get er' done!!👊
Ha! Victory!!!
Even though this originally came with Bronze Bearings.... Is there an option to convert it to a Babbitt bearing configuration? Love these videos Keith! Cheers Mike (Marietta)
I wondered the same. Or use some Oil-lite impregnated bronze bearing material?
Andrew
There's another battle that has not been finished: how's the STOKER ENGINE doing?!
Don't know anything about the milling process, but my guess is that after milling, the mill should be rinsed thoroughly with water to get rid of all the juice and chaff. Looks like that last one was just put away without cleaning and the juice corroded it.
Thank you for another great video. It's good to see that someone is taking on this old equipment and preserving history. It's certainly not easy.
And here's a short clip of a video I came across of a mill in action back in the day - ua-cam.com/video/Yfmw1R4gpvA/v-deo.html
Thanks, I thoroughly enjoyed the YT clip of old Southern life with lots of hard work but some time for dancing and fun.
You were one more hammer blow from that shaft turning loose.
I knew just as soon as you said "did the 2ndvonevoff camera, didn't have any real problems" that the last one would have to be the bear.....
I was hoping for a litany of curses. I am curious what they would be :p
Keith forgot to call it "Pig Wrestlng"
Make some wood/plaster molds and cast those bearings with babbit anyways.
Some days you eat the bear and some days the bear eats you.. Looks like you beat that bugger with the bigger stick this time my friend. Well done!
Hopefully you have a large automatic parts washing machine. This project could really use one.
If it were my decision to fix it or not, I would definitely invest the money into fixing it because it’s a part of history.
$3K
Well persevered. Perhaps the final one of the three could be the subject of a cosmetic restoration. Interesting that they were designed for animal power.
Having seen them in operation, you don’t want them going very fast at all. The fact they are still useable is fantastic!
With the bronze bearings can you build them up and mill them out.
♥
Ever think of trying the stuff sold on TV called Sprayzilla? Gears and shaft parts would make for true testing of it capillary action, either true or hype. If it does what it says, it may be well worth it's price.
I enjoy all your videos. Watching this video and I saw it in the background and was wondering what’s going on with the Diresta band saw?
Hammer failed because the punch was too heavy. In old circus there were 'iron men', bodubuilt men that layed on the floor with an anvil on the chest and the anvil was hit with a sledgehammer to demonstrate the infinite power of that 'iron men'. The trick is in the anvil being so much heavier than the hammer that it 'absorbs' all the momentum and man doesn't feel any hammerstrokes. So is your punch that is too heavy to transfer hammer's power to the shaft.
In high school I perform this demonstration putting 50 lb steel plate on the glass of water and hitting it with 1 lb hammer. Glass is perfectly safe.
I was always wondering if it would make sense to coat all the iron parts with something protecting them from rusting. Like japanning or blueing or something like that.
Never let the machines win.
I saw Jimmy's bandsaw in the back ground, is that still in work?
Thanks Keith.
Any news on Jimmy's band saw ? Have not seen any videos, Or have I missed them.
Mike M.
Could you turn down and make sleeves for the shafts that are so rusty!
where's the giant bandsaw project?
Nothing tightens up a bolt like "Time".
I don't know how many times a bolt that was done up 100 years ago has given me grief when I tried to restore some piece of machinery.
The portable press frame was done for the Derester Bandsaw Resto right?
Obviously, sugar cane juice must be as corrosive as salt water. I also remember when watching Cutting Edge Engineering Australia on UA-cam that I saw how this guy did the same thing: bore out damaged holes and turn down spindles to get rid of damage, build up welding beads over welding beads, etc. intentionally making too much weld layers, and then machining them back down into the _exact_ diameters which they once were when new.
Using commonly available tools isn't cheating, today some lithium battery impact wrenches costs less than a set of open end wrenches from renowned brands.
You don't need to risk injuring yourself trying to loosen a stubborn bolt with old fashioned tools, anyway when those mills were first assembled the threads were free of rust and dirt, maybe they even cheated and put a little oil on them 😉
That Chatanooga press, was it the Painus #2 model? That soak tank is gonna get a workout....
I figure with all the unrest and bad news, folks are getting the old stuff ready to work again. Very smart as far as I'm concerned.
Get yourself an electric hoist, plenty budget ones around
I think this is a case of success being it's own worst punishment.
Turning down , welding up the shafts. How about turning down and pressing sleeves on.. are you going to paint the non rubbing areas with an epoxy that is food grade
That last one needed an Evapo-Rrust Enema before you fooled with it.
Did the client say OK to the restoration of that problem cane mill?
Would using sleeves on the shaft journals work?
Is it a good idea to use babbitt, in a machine that is producing a food product?
I can smell the rust
What you did was go off camera and cuss your head off for about 10 minutes. LOL! I feel for you when comes to getting that thing apart. I've found that even though 2 things may be very, very similar they rarely behave the same way. I really hope the client wants to fix it. Take care.
Looks like you could use about a hundred gallons of Evaporust to soak items like that in.
Which would be less expensive, 3D print a pattern for sand casting the bronze bushings or 3D print the 6 models and investment cast them?
For removing rusty crusty bolts its funny because I have bad luck with my electric impacts since they break bolts even if I pulse it. But I have a 40 year old air impact that is really quite gutless but I suspect it has heavy hammers. I let it work the bolts and since its beats per minute is so slow the bolt has enough time to spring back before the next beat hits.
This is a slow running machine.
I want to suggest turning off the rusty axles and then measuring them. Then a tube can be turned with the required outside diameter. There must be an interference fit inside so that the tube can be heated and pushed onto the old axle. When it's cold, it presses on the axle.
I was thinking the same, a 'speedy sleeve' type fix.
So you're thinking to sleeve the shafts? Could be viable, but truthfully I suspect Mr. Keith could turn, weld, and re-turn faster. He always claims to not be a great welder, but he's got a lot more skill than he claims credit for.
I always cheat first only break out wrenches or breaker bars if they fail to much like work otherwise lol
Hey Keith did you know that that guy Ding Dong is closely related to Mr Pete guy Bubba they must be brothers 🤣
I been fighting to get a new computer up and running so I have a good idea what he feels
Is the 3rd mill worth saving? Looks pretty far gone.
Admittedly worried it and scared it to submition
At 3:30, it looks like the old planer used to be (but no longer is) that imaginary thing known as an "empty flat spot".