Imagine how much better this would be with actual athletes who were talented. Right now it just looks like a bunch of dudes in armor hitting each other until the ref blows the whistle.. There's no skill, no tactics, not much intelligence on these fields. Which also makes me question why anyone would use a short sword in something like this. One handed swords aren't meant to pummel armor. They are designed to cut/stab meat around/under armor. If you're not allowed to actually use sharpened weapons to cut/stab, a single handed sword is useless. That's why you always see these guys using their shields as primary weapons and the sword as a parrying tool.. . Edged weapons make no sense in a sport like this. Unless they're very heavy and designed to hit through armor. Large two handed weapons like Battle Axes, Hammers/Mauls, Maces, Flails, Studded Clubs etc...
@@SaltNBattery sry i can't agree with that. 1. these "new" buhurt is newly resurrected (2013). And of course mostly amateurish at the beginning. What do you think how fast they become professional? Tactics will become over time! 2. Of course is one handed swords ideal for closed combat. A two hand sword is too unwieldy for that. You take it too seriously, that should be a sport, not a duell for life and death. Yeah the shields are not only a passiv armour, but also a weapon if you can handle it. (it exist medival training manuals how to fight with shields) Look at pic of the medival Tournaments, it's the same process 3. The fighters have the choice to choose there weapons. Maybe the will test ther abilities about different weapons with the time. Resume: The destination is not to kill there opponents, it's a tournament. Not more nor less.
"This might look like the U.N, but this is an organization that might actually accomplish something"...... based af. 5.55 minutes in if you want to hear it.
dont know if you guys gives a damn but if you guys are stoned like me atm you can stream pretty much all of the latest movies and series on instaflixxer. I've been streaming with my gf for the last couple of days xD
I want these two to be the announcers during the next Super Bowl. I don't care if they don't even understand the rules, I would appreciate this kind of commentary even more.
Glad to see that nothing changes, "medieval British" still kicking everyones ass. Considering they are bludgeoning each other about the head with heavy axes it seems to be all done in good spirits.
Are these countries represented or is this a type of costume affair??? Eithers good, but it would intreating to see if there was an inherited advanced fighting style.!!!!!😎
Because armour was highly effective, and negated the need for large shields by the 15th century. At that point, armour was so good at protecting the wearer that weapons evolved from swords and edged weapons to large polearms or war picks designed to puncture armour. In the IMCF, the league in the video, shields are small because that way they can be used offensively and defensively while also allowing the user to maintain mobility.
In this specific scenario, nobody really cared too much about winning because a medal wasn't on the line, this was more of a for fun fight organized at the last minute. If you want to see some more strategy, watch 5v5s, 10v10s, and 16v16s, especially at BotN, where they're fighting competitively. Even more strategy is involved in the 150v150 held at BotN, where strategies like that are very commonplace. The other problem with a phalanx or shield wall is that when you're wearing full metal armour, a shield isn't really necessary because you can take a hit and it's not doing any significant damage. For this reason, the shields used in this sport are small and used both offensively and defensively - hence the common name for them, the punch shield.
Imagine how much better this would be with actual athletes who were talented. Right now it just looks like a bunch of dudes in armor hitting each other until the ref blows the whistle.. There's no skill, no tactics, not much intelligence on these fields. Which also makes me question why anyone would use a short sword in something like this. One handed swords aren't meant to pummel armor. They are designed to cut/stab meat around/under armor. If you're not allowed to actually use sharpened weapons to cut/stab, a single handed sword is useless. That's why you always see these guys using their shields as primary weapons and the sword as a parrying tool.. Edged weapons make no sense in a sport like this. Unless they're very heavy and designed to hit through armor. Large two handed weapons like Battle Axes, Hammers/Mauls, Maces, Flails, Studded Clubs etc...
Typically from what ive seen, swords are alot better for people who like to try wrestling and throwing people to the ground, and then with clubs/maces/flails i cant remember if they are allowed
“Actual athletes that are talented”, this is a sport but its also a historically recreated sport. Theres a big difference between the nfl and medieval combat. There’s scoring in certain events and the goal im these is to grapple and knock people down, thats how they get out, we cant really kill people
One handed weapons such as falchions and maces are highly effective when used properly. Falchions in particular are used to hit gaps in the armour, and are small enough to grapple effectively with. Maces do plenty of damage as well when used properly, but once again just serve as grapple sticks. As for "actual athletes" and talent, to say these guys aren't athletes or talented is exceptionally ignorant. The men fighting in this tournament are the best fighters in their country, and very well trained in their sport. They are good at what they do - better at it than you would be. The fighters who make it to the international level spend countless hours training their skills, working on conditioning, speed, power, and strength so they can effectively fight in 50+ pounds of armour. It is an exceptionally difficult sport, and just because it doesn't look impressive to you doesn't mean it isn't difficult or impressive to anyone else. I can guarantee there is lots of skill being displayed on the field. As for intelligence and tactics, you are right: this was a noncompetitive match where there are no stakes for winning or losing. However, if you watch a 5v5, 10v10, 16v16, etc, where a medal or placing is at stake, you'll see tactics employed on the battlefield to great effect.
This needs to be an Olympic sport.
korrekt!
So true
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Imagine how much better this would be with actual athletes who were talented. Right now it just looks like a bunch of dudes in armor hitting each other until the ref blows the whistle.. There's no skill, no tactics, not much intelligence on these fields.
Which also makes me question why anyone would use a short sword in something like this. One handed swords aren't meant to pummel armor. They are designed to cut/stab meat around/under armor. If you're not allowed to actually use sharpened weapons to cut/stab, a single handed sword is useless. That's why you always see these guys using their shields as primary weapons and the sword as a parrying tool.. .
Edged weapons make no sense in a sport like this. Unless they're very heavy and designed to hit through armor. Large two handed weapons like Battle Axes, Hammers/Mauls, Maces, Flails, Studded Clubs etc...
@@SaltNBattery sry i can't agree with that.
1. these "new" buhurt is newly resurrected (2013). And of course mostly amateurish at the beginning. What do you think how fast they become professional? Tactics will become over time!
2. Of course is one handed swords ideal for closed combat. A two hand sword is too unwieldy for that.
You take it too seriously, that should be a sport, not a duell for life and death.
Yeah the shields are not only a passiv armour, but also a weapon if you can handle it. (it exist medival training manuals how to fight with shields)
Look at pic of the medival Tournaments, it's the same process
3. The fighters have the choice to choose there weapons. Maybe the will test ther abilities about different weapons with the time.
Resume: The destination is not to kill there opponents, it's a tournament. Not more nor less.
"This might look like the U.N, but this is an organization that might actually accomplish something"...... based af. 5.55 minutes in if you want to hear it.
5:55 there I fixed the timestamp for you
"This is kind of like the United Nations, accept this one might actually accomplish something" Legend.
19:30
"Simon, holding almost an entire flank by himself"
"Simon is.... not human."
Best comment ever haha
Simon is huge
This commentary is solid gold! "Ireland is.... uh, kinda a late draft pick!" "Just had a camera man run up, say something, then run off"
"Ireland attacking England...which is interesting". Lol.:)
dont know if you guys gives a damn but if you guys are stoned like me atm you can stream pretty much all of the latest movies and series on instaflixxer. I've been streaming with my gf for the last couple of days xD
@Gerardo Emiliano yea, been watching on instaflixxer for since november myself :)
I think they were on the same team😂 guarantee irish started it
42:47 "Safety is our number one priority. here . . . though I know it may not look like it"
- i love this commentator
Just discovered this sport. This takes some stamina and strength to fight like that!
understatement of the year
I love these announcer great stuff and a beautiful sport
I want these two to be the announcers during the next Super Bowl. I don't care if they don't even understand the rules, I would appreciate this kind of commentary even more.
Cameras were better back then than in 2008 , mind-blowing
"Walking through the camp this week, we had an actual French Ghetto- all the French, Quebecois and Belgians together" lmao
This is greater than I had expected!
18:57 the guy in the back with the kick though
Anyone that had ever been in the military this right there is the reason they reach you drill and make a big point of marching in step
This is amazing how did I not know about this iwant in!
"We have disneyland" 🤣🤣 Dude... so do we 🤣🤣
This looks amazing. They draw the same level of crowds as olympic skateboarding. It should be an olympic sport!
2020: Forest Fires, Plague, Riots.
2021:
This was worth the ten mins I gave it
33:46 lol the Mexican- i need that flag gave it :")
Necesito esa bandera. Dámela
Mexico is awesome man.
It’s ok Spain is better 👍🏻
@@RealRagnar816 yes better at sucking haha. Mexico is by far superior than little Spain. 👍🤠🇲🇽
@@ezrazavala8611 na we are the best 💁🏻 👍🏻 🇪🇸
@@ezrazavala8611 Lol Mexico is not superior than Spain, and i am from Mexico
Mexico sucks. Plain and simple.
North America gladly accepts Ireland in the draft....you can have France back 😜
Et vous pouvez manger nos bites. 👍
The Portuguese and the Spanish working together to steal the flag? No way, this gotta be staged hahahah
The future of European armies.
This is a perfect strong hold world!!
This is awesome
imagine fighting for 2 weeks
26:40 My man was r o b b e d
An injury timeout? I dont think they had those during any medieval battles.
The new world was still practically in the late stone early bronze age when this was going on in Europe lol
11:43 "nothing life threatening, glad to see that. you don t want to see anybody hurt out here.. definitely" (they hit each other with axes)
Cool commentating! ;)
This looks fun
15:55 LEEEEROOOOOYYYYY JENKIIIIINNNNNSSSS. didn't see that coming
25:04 ....until it gets demolished by airplanes.
"The Irish attacking the British... Interesting"
John Oliver needs to bring awareness to this sport.
ow this take me back the the 1300s
ofcourse europe wins againts NW
Can you dig it yet relatives this is our world
I’d watch this while taking a dump. Just sayin it’s that good
Is a weapon required? I’d want to just throw hands w those metal gloves
We need to put some horses too.
Danish flag bearer for New World didn't fight hard enough. Inside Job. He gave that flag away.
I want in on this shit, like a year ago
this werry werry good
Glad to see that nothing changes, "medieval British" still kicking everyones ass.
Considering they are bludgeoning each other about the head with heavy axes it seems to be all done in good spirits.
"medieval british" doesnt exist ! And medieval England had their ass badly kicked.
@@Selendeki they lost mainly against France who colonized them. 😂😂
@@antoinemozart243William Marshal the greatest knight who ever lived….. look him up 😂🏴
@@paulthomas-hh2kv Only Englanders know him. I have never heard of him. 🤣🤣🤣
If they don't do this at Ren fair's they need to.
every combatant played age of empires, smashed their laptop and came to battle
The competition at the IMCF it's kinda lame compared to the BOTN. Just not the same grade of fighters.
lol.. a group of 60 grown men swinging axes at each other .."ope, we have an injury" ..ya think...
MAURICIO! MAURICIO! MAURICIO!
What did you say about Mexicans, holmes?
Pero entonces los Escorpiones de Guadalajara en que bando estaban ?
When the flag comes out they should all stay put, and just attend to the injured.
Like the people on the ground?
Deffo not suprised iteland swapped sides!
29:24 How do they do it? 🤨 say it
toate steagurile europene.. si al romaniei unde este?
yeah i kinda need an armor ........like right now.
Portugal castle nice
Portugal done well
Sign me up!!!
ルールはどうなってるんだ？？
Jeez, how they get through this without some sickening fatalities is beyond me.....I mean....hitting each other with axes?
Yeah it's pretty awesome. I've been fighting in these tournaments for almost 3 years now and I love it.
the nine minute intro was a bit unnecessary.
Are these countries represented or is this a type of costume affair??? Eithers good, but it would intreating to see if there was an inherited advanced fighting style.!!!!!😎
These are countries
wow. all this is missing is a bard and someone clapping coconuts together.
L'Ireland me tuer de rire
Why are the shields so small?
Because armour was highly effective, and negated the need for large shields by the 15th century. At that point, armour was so good at protecting the wearer that weapons evolved from swords and edged weapons to large polearms or war picks designed to puncture armour. In the IMCF, the league in the video, shields are small because that way they can be used offensively and defensively while also allowing the user to maintain mobility.
i want to see turkiye here ....
We are still still doing this... What the heck...
is that a sharp tool or not?
they most likely have dulled blades
@@Z54 aa i see well that really cool
HAHAAHHAHAHAAHAH HELL YEA I WANNA AXE CHOP EM ALL
i just know American had a knight...
okay brexit
what determines new world or europe (cos france i think came to quebec side)
it was just to balance teams as there were ALOT more Old world fighters
La France prefere se battre contre des anglais plutot qu'avec eux
adult fun i love it
😂 El samurai debió ser gringo, porque se nota que no sabía nada..
Kind of dumb they're not utilizing the shield wall or a phalanx formation.
In this specific scenario, nobody really cared too much about winning because a medal wasn't on the line, this was more of a for fun fight organized at the last minute. If you want to see some more strategy, watch 5v5s, 10v10s, and 16v16s, especially at BotN, where they're fighting competitively. Even more strategy is involved in the 150v150 held at BotN, where strategies like that are very commonplace. The other problem with a phalanx or shield wall is that when you're wearing full metal armour, a shield isn't really necessary because you can take a hit and it's not doing any significant damage. For this reason, the shields used in this sport are small and used both offensively and defensively - hence the common name for them, the punch shield.
Injury and you all stop fighting? wtf? Get a horse drag him away and keep fighting!
If only shied walls were used....
Tsk tsk
Watch the BotN 150v150 and you'll see plenty of shield walls.
Someone needs to get fired
wwhat a hell
Masons VS Agatha
Yaaah lawan matadorbiuga kalah :v
starts around 9 minutes. this was quite boring….black friday shopping crowds are more entertaining then this.
n world
#1776 #WW1 #WW11 Merica 🇺🇸
#1812 #1975
these guys cant count lmao, every single round was uneven.
Peggio dei bambini che giocano.alla guerra😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This i wanna do before I die. ❤❤❤ I'm in Michigan and I would dominate at this. Hit me up if you are in this in America
portugalllllll
Russia invented this sport, yet I dont see Russia. Pls dont tell me that fucking politics poisoned this great sport to.
Boring
Imagine how much better this would be with actual athletes who were talented. Right now it just looks like a bunch of dudes in armor hitting each other until the ref blows the whistle.. There's no skill, no tactics, not much intelligence on these fields.
Which also makes me question why anyone would use a short sword in something like this. One handed swords aren't meant to pummel armor. They are designed to cut/stab meat around/under armor. If you're not allowed to actually use sharpened weapons to cut/stab, a single handed sword is useless. That's why you always see these guys using their shields as primary weapons and the sword as a parrying tool..
Edged weapons make no sense in a sport like this. Unless they're very heavy and designed to hit through armor. Large two handed weapons like Battle Axes, Hammers/Mauls, Maces, Flails, Studded Clubs etc...
Typically from what ive seen, swords are alot better for people who like to try wrestling and throwing people to the ground, and then with clubs/maces/flails i cant remember if they are allowed
“Actual athletes that are talented”, this is a sport but its also a historically recreated sport. Theres a big difference between the nfl and medieval combat. There’s scoring in certain events and the goal im these is to grapple and knock people down, thats how they get out, we cant really kill people
One handed weapons such as falchions and maces are highly effective when used properly. Falchions in particular are used to hit gaps in the armour, and are small enough to grapple effectively with. Maces do plenty of damage as well when used properly, but once again just serve as grapple sticks. As for "actual athletes" and talent, to say these guys aren't athletes or talented is exceptionally ignorant. The men fighting in this tournament are the best fighters in their country, and very well trained in their sport. They are good at what they do - better at it than you would be. The fighters who make it to the international level spend countless hours training their skills, working on conditioning, speed, power, and strength so they can effectively fight in 50+ pounds of armour. It is an exceptionally difficult sport, and just because it doesn't look impressive to you doesn't mean it isn't difficult or impressive to anyone else. I can guarantee there is lots of skill being displayed on the field. As for intelligence and tactics, you are right: this was a noncompetitive match where there are no stakes for winning or losing. However, if you watch a 5v5, 10v10, 16v16, etc, where a medal or placing is at stake, you'll see tactics employed on the battlefield to great effect.
@@GhostlyWardenRS Maces are allowed, but clubs and flails are banned in the sport.
BOTN rejects.
could you explain?
@@thoughtheglass battle of the nations is another medieval full contact organizatiom
When I started watching I was thinking, " Wow this is going to be awesome!"10 seconds after the fight started I was thinking, "This is stupid."
yeah, kind of. To be honest
black friday shopping crowds are more entertaining than this. i was looking forward to the fight, Until it started.
@@shadowsilverlight1651 I didn't know about the black friday shopping crowds, thanks now I have something to entertain with
this werry werry good