You know what the worst thing is Steven? Since you left Canberra there are no bow shops in Canberra! So I had to buy a press and learn it all myself!!!
I think the worst thing is archery is struggling in Canberra. 11 archers shot the State championship. I was turning over 5 million a year in Canberra so many local archers. So many good clubs. Tuggeranong the funding which went into that amazing. But the break ins were bad. That court case on Domestic relationships - where you can claim assets from anyone I did not like. I loved the place. But it was hard to buy a store and grow. It was actually a hard position - Public service life was great, the business was to busy. Even here my dad's business was only 1.5 staff at his biggest. We have a lot of staff. I closed Saturdays to have some time off. But I still work Saturdays. The thing which I find interesting about Canberra - When I left Weston Valley I had 20-30,000 in the bank which I got through running coaching courses all the time. The Club was big. I have the cheapest target faces and I get no target face business from Canberra. When I was in Canberra I had target faces for $7 my club would go to Benson and pay $20. It would give me the shits. Dad would always say if you have club money then you have to spend it the best you can which means buy the cheapest you can find. I would say all but one club buy faces off me here. I'm almost half the price. So it is massive savings for the clubs. Certainly an interesting time growing up. My old store now a Laundry Matt. lol
Firstly, thankyou for the reply, I love archery And I must have moved to Holder within a year or two of you leaving. Yes Archery in the Capital lost Big time when you moved, I remember shopping from an archery store in a back shed in Kambah! I was a young fella in my teens then but that was you too I'm sure in the 90's. I was gobsmacked to learn there was no archery shop here at all any more. I had just bought my Mathews V3 and the Place I bought it from didn't put in a peep or do anything I asked so I was stuck with a bow for months dying to shoot it! The only reason I bought it from Apex is they do afterpay as I could not afford it any other way. I've spent close to 4000 all up with top of the line hamski, shrewd, spott Hogg, Gas and Mathews accessories. I watch your vids and check your shop out dreaming of something like that here. I'm so glad you still love the sport as archery would not be the same in Australia without you! Take care and keep the vids coming mate!!
Impressive damage! I'm surprised the bowstring didn't snap, must be top notch quality. Most dry fires i saw in my club happened due to bad nock fit on the string. Skinny string plus wide nock equals dry firing your bow, almost classic.
Might have some of that serving that isn't normal thread type material. Idk what the hell it is, it feels like dogshit on your fingies when they do the center serving with it. It's like plastic-y something or other. Awful. But I'd imagine it's tough as hell lmao
My new compound reduced the draw weight to minimum .arrow fell at my feet due to bad nocking thankfully only the strings came off the pulleys.Lesson learnt.
I shot and sold this exact same bow for many years when they were manufactured by Oneida Archery USA. In all my years , I have never seen one this badly damaged and it is clearly user caused. Those limbs will take an incredible pounding by means of striking an object with either the top or bottom limb on large tree branch or literally driving the bottom limb into the dirt while shooting out of a pit blind. About the only damage that would result is that you would have to readjust the timing wheels “star screw”. I’ve done it and I know how tough they are ,this was at 85 lbs draw weight. No other damage , readjust timing and go again. Too bad you had to do the customer is always right thing , dishonesty sucks.
The Oneida;s I never had an outboard limb do this. This is very different. The Oneida's did power cables, replaced the power limbs. I wonder if it is the string material? Maybe the Oneida tips are stronger? This is the first RPM to do this.
@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale What materials are RPM using to construct their outboard limbs would be off most interest. The ones Oneida used were bulletproof. Had loads of issues keeping them in alignment and many power cables wearing out, but never seen this happen ever.
I'm pretty sick of these people. Steve and his staff have been very fair and decent to me over the last 2.5 years - any issues I've had have been fairly resolved and in many cases I'd say they've been more than fair. eg, upgrading orders because what I ordered was out of stock, so they just gave me something better. This crap shouldn't happen to nice people.
I had 3 knocks shatter on my Parellel Pandarus Elites Eact time the bow exploded with my new very expensive Uukha limbs flying into the air. Fortunately the Limbs survived. I had inspected the knocks and all appeared well. Changed them all for kosher beiter knocks and no more problems
Sad that people are not willing to be held responsible for their actions. I have seen this same scenario happen multiple times, most times the shooter does not even know what happened until it is explained to them, and then most, but not all, accept what they have done.
@@tonyallen8626 I don't and have never worked in a bow shop mate but I can honestly say that every dry fire and derailment I have seen has been the fault of the shooter. I have seen just as many dry fires from not even nocking an arrow as I have seen caused by bad nock fit. There is no excuse for a shop letting a bow / arrow combination leave the shop with the wrong size nocks for the bowstring serving but I have never seen it, I actually see more new bows with nocks that are too tight for this very reason. In this case the guy had been shooting the bow for some time without issue so it was obviously archer error. It is not an isolated incident, I have lost count of the number of bows I have repaired and strings I have replaced caused by dryfires and derailing's.
I agree they would not know. Which is why I tell them what happened and I say I will not cover it again. But the cost of repair is only a little bit. What less than a tank of fuel? It puts the staff under a lot of stress for a small amount of money. I dont think customers think about the staff. My dad would say it is not worth the stress.
@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale All part of dealing with the public, something I don't have the temperament to do. Thankfully most people do the right thing.
So one more thing about horse bows. These can be extremely hard to string by yourself thanks to wood siyahs you have to over come that angle so it amplifies the difficulty in stringing. Worse there’s really no “universal stringing aid” or any stringing aids for sale because these bows have drastically different shapes and sizes. All the quality bow manufacturers now have dropped the warranty on bows over 60lbs usually by half because so many people were making warranty claims when they tried to step through their 90lb bow and torqued it lol. Sadly they were often replacing or giving discounts on replacements. Some don’t even make bows past 50lbs because of this issue (imo). Idiots think “oh I can pull my 70lb elite, Hoyt, etc so a 70lb Tatar bow will be no problem!” when they can’t even safely string the damn thing. It’s worse with people thinking it’s so cool to buy a bio composite or traditional horn bow without the faintest clue how to properly warm up and tiller the bow. Horn is not fiberglass or carbon. Needless to say wherever you go in the industry you find people blaming their own stupidity on the manufacturer or the shop. I think the lock down archer explosion had amped this up to 11. Entry level equipment like Chinese compounds/recurves or pure fiberglass horsebows exist for a reason. Their cheap tools to learn on and make mistakes. Skipping the line in terms of performance/price or draw weight is always a recipe for disaster.
I had a bow blow up and it was nothing to do with a dryfire... limb pulled out of the socket, or to be more correct the socket insert pulled out of the riser and remained attached to the limb when I had it at full draw. The limb and socket whacked me on the head and then my hand. Got both a concussion and a hand that was numb for over a week. Both limbs were fine, archery shop(not Archery Supplies) refused to warranty the bow claiming it was a dry fire. They never did explain how a dry fire could leave the limbs fine, but have the riser itself fail and have the limb socket pull out.
yikes !! must have done somthing really stupid to damage it like that ? my rpm is going strong , love it. thanks to you guys for suplying me with this great product, everyone at my club loves the look of this bow , i call it my "fancy bow" can i but the riser and cams for spairs ??😁
Except.... the 1st gen nitros did have problems with this exact same thing happening before they switched to an esc limb to remedy this, all of those guys were shooting a 1200grain fishing arrow. Ask any of the guys on the lever lovers page.
In 35 years of archery I have had one dry fire, In that instance I was lucky that is was on a very low poundage compound, the only thing that happened was the peep jumped out of its spot in the string. I am still using that bow with the same strings and cams, as I said very lucky. I would be embarrassed to rock up to an archery shop and try to pass off a dry fire damage as a warranty claim, just be honest, suck it up and admit your mistake and pay for the repairs.
have seen 4 dry fires in the last 12 months at my club,2 were caused by nock failure and in the other two by the unfortunate shooters not realizing they had not put an arrow in the bow!!
I had a Mathews Heli M that made me so fearful to ever let down a bow. No matter how hard I tried to let the draw down without torquing, that thing blew up on me 3 times. The pain on my forearm haunts me to this day. After the 3rd time I had to sell it. When I bought it new, my dealer put the bow on a scale to measure the draw weight and it blew up on him before I even got a chance to shoot it. I always wondered if that bow was known to this or was my bow messed up somehow. I’ve owned many bows and that one bow was the only one to ever have the string come off.
I've been finger shooting compounds for a few years now, had a couple of dry fires, got away with 50% of them. Had 2 due to polycarbonate nocks blowing out, so only use solid colour nocks now, that solved that problem. Had to shoot mediterranean due to class rules(barebow compound), found that I was pinching the nock and denocking the arrow, so decided that I wasn't willing to destroy my bow due to some stupid rule, been shooting 2 under for 2 years now, no more dry fires, shame I have to compete against sights and release aids to shoot it. Just lost a recurve to a broken wood shaft, grievious😭
You can shoot CB by the rules 2-3 fingers under. With Traditional category too, just you have to touch the nock with one finger. I've been shooting CB category for six years... I shoot 3 under, and I had even an opponent CB shooter who've shot with stringwalking technincs. The only rule in CB releasing is you mustn't use release aid, but how you release with your fingers is your choice... mediterrean, 2-3 under, thumb, slavic release etc...
its funny because I had my Hoyt Ventum pro for 1 hour and it just blew up for no good reason.......Had nothing to do with the fact I wanted to see how it felt and lost my grip on it. People just need to own their mistakes.
It wasnt me... I had a partial dry fire... The bow was loud as hell The arrow hit the target but the arrow was missing a nock ear. Had the bow checked by Merlin Archery UK... No issues. Phew. Changed all my nocks.
CORRECTION. It was the Ice Points where the nocks kept shattering. The nocks on the Pandarus Elites (parallel shafts) kept falling off in mid glight! Again beiter nocks solved the problem
I shoot traditonal recurve horse bows and you tend to shoot quicker then with say a compound or target recurve. It’s stupidly easy dry fire with a nock meant for modern archery because there’s that “double click” as it passes the narrow throat of the nock into the groove. Sometimes you miss that second click. I appreciate this when shooting my junxing m125 (first compound now, I love compound now it’s so so so fun to have that stupid good accuracy with so little work) but on a traditional bows maybe your listening to some silly review from an Australian archery salesmen and you half knock the arrow ugh. Thank god the arrow was super heavy it didn’t delaminate. I’ve since switched to shooting Vermil nocks. It’s not worth the risk. At any rate I can see how shooting fingers on and RPM you could find yourself in a similar situation. Shooting release aid your not shooting fast taking that extra moment nocking is sort of part of the flow. You can’t blind Nock and get your release aid right or at least I can’t lol.
@@saransmith8773 it’s pretty simple I was listening to this channel, didn’t pay attention, and didn’t fully engage the Nock on the string. It was a laminated traditional bow because the arrow was so heavy it absorbed a bunch of the energy even though it just flopped to the ground in front of me. The glue holding the layers of the bow together didn’t fail probably because of this. The Vermil nocks can’t really be partially nocked. This hasn’t happened since. Shooting compound I pay more attention to the nocking process so the nock is always fully on the string. I could see how shooting a compound bow with fingers and blind nocking could cause a partial nock. Something that doesn’t happen shooting with a release aid because at least I have to look to make sure it’s engaged on the Dloop and can check the nock as well.
two a day. Warranty is a nightmare. It is almost one full time staff. I have a recurve riser yesterday very interesting looks like it has been left in a pool. Looks a mess. Customer claims shot it once and packed it away. I think I have to do a video on that. The bow is 2 weeks old. I have never seen anything like it. Rust. I live next to the ocean and my gear is out the back. Nothing like this bow which is 2 weeks old. It is amazing.
lol no nocking point, can't see an arrow rest either... and looking at the damage it is clearly a dry fire. If there was an arrow on then it either fell off the shelf or its nock was broken, either way it resulted in a dry fire IMHO.
The arrogance of people who flat out refuse to accept they may have made a mistake. I've been shooting for years, I've pinched a nock off the string and dry fired before. Dry fires happen, mistakes happen, it's normal. What's not normal is then going and abusing someone for your own silly error
You could send photos of that to any corner of the world and the consensus would be the same, dry fire. People trying to save a buck by blaming X,Y or Z as the reason and pressing for warranty, hopefully will get karma rearing in their face one day. And the mother should stop raising kids if this is the morality she instills into her offspring. Off my rant, dang I want that bow.
So if I see this happen again - I can refer to this video. Reminds me of the guy with the Elite where the cams where damaged. Looked like a screw driver. I never knew. We replaced the bow then he did the credit card fraud thing - so got the bow for free. You just hope you dont get to many of those issues.
You know what the worst thing is Steven? Since you left Canberra there are no bow shops in Canberra! So I had to buy a press and learn it all myself!!!
This is the way.
I think the worst thing is archery is struggling in Canberra. 11 archers shot the State championship. I was turning over 5 million a year in Canberra so many local archers. So many good clubs. Tuggeranong the funding which went into that amazing. But the break ins were bad. That court case on Domestic relationships - where you can claim assets from anyone I did not like. I loved the place. But it was hard to buy a store and grow. It was actually a hard position - Public service life was great, the business was to busy.
Even here my dad's business was only 1.5 staff at his biggest. We have a lot of staff. I closed Saturdays to have some time off. But I still work Saturdays.
The thing which I find interesting about Canberra - When I left Weston Valley I had 20-30,000 in the bank which I got through running coaching courses all the time. The Club was big. I have the cheapest target faces and I get no target face business from Canberra. When I was in Canberra I had target faces for $7 my club would go to Benson and pay $20. It would give me the shits. Dad would always say if you have club money then you have to spend it the best you can which means buy the cheapest you can find.
I would say all but one club buy faces off me here. I'm almost half the price. So it is massive savings for the clubs. Certainly an interesting time growing up. My old store now a Laundry Matt. lol
Firstly, thankyou for the reply, I love archery And I must have moved to Holder within a year or two of you leaving. Yes Archery in the Capital lost Big time when you moved, I remember shopping from an archery store in a back shed in Kambah! I was a young fella in my teens then but that was you too I'm sure in the 90's. I was gobsmacked to learn there was no archery shop here at all any more. I had just bought my Mathews V3 and the Place I bought it from didn't put in a peep or do anything I asked so I was stuck with a bow for months dying to shoot it! The only reason I bought it from Apex is they do afterpay as I could not afford it any other way. I've spent close to 4000 all up with top of the line hamski, shrewd, spott Hogg, Gas and Mathews accessories. I watch your vids and check your shop out dreaming of something like that here. I'm so glad you still love the sport as archery would not be the same in Australia without you! Take care and keep the vids coming mate!!
Impressive damage! I'm surprised the bowstring didn't snap, must be top notch quality. Most dry fires i saw in my club happened due to bad nock fit on the string. Skinny string plus wide nock equals dry firing your bow, almost classic.
Might have some of that serving that isn't normal thread type material. Idk what the hell it is, it feels like dogshit on your fingies when they do the center serving with it. It's like plastic-y something or other. Awful. But I'd imagine it's tough as hell lmao
My new compound reduced the draw weight to minimum .arrow fell at my feet due to bad nocking thankfully only the strings came off the pulleys.Lesson learnt.
I shot and sold this exact same bow for many years when they were manufactured by Oneida Archery USA. In all my years , I have never seen one this badly damaged and it is clearly user caused. Those limbs will take an incredible pounding by means of striking an object with either the top or bottom limb on large tree branch or literally driving the bottom limb into the dirt while shooting out of a pit blind. About the only damage that would result is that you would have to readjust the timing wheels “star screw”. I’ve done it and I know how tough they are ,this was at 85 lbs draw weight. No other damage , readjust timing and go again. Too bad you had to do the customer is always right thing , dishonesty sucks.
The Oneida;s I never had an outboard limb do this. This is very different. The Oneida's did power cables, replaced the power limbs. I wonder if it is the string material? Maybe the Oneida tips are stronger? This is the first RPM to do this.
@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale What materials are RPM using to construct their outboard limbs would be off most interest. The ones Oneida used were bulletproof. Had loads of issues keeping them in alignment and many power cables wearing out, but never seen this happen ever.
I'm pretty sick of these people.
Steve and his staff have been very fair and decent to me over the last 2.5 years - any issues I've had have been fairly resolved and in many cases I'd say they've been more than fair.
eg, upgrading orders because what I ordered was out of stock, so they just gave me something better.
This crap shouldn't happen to nice people.
I had 3 knocks shatter on my Parellel Pandarus Elites Eact time the bow exploded with my new very expensive Uukha limbs flying into the air. Fortunately the Limbs survived. I had inspected the knocks and all appeared well. Changed them all for kosher beiter knocks and no more problems
One of mine blew first shot the other night. Scared the b jesus out of me. Next shot is scary.
Sad that people are not willing to be held responsible for their actions. I have seen this same scenario happen multiple times, most times the shooter does not even know what happened until it is explained to them, and then most, but not all, accept what they have done.
It goes both ways, plenty of times it was a mistake made by the staff at the shop but they refuse to own their mistake
@@tonyallen8626 I don't and have never worked in a bow shop mate but I can honestly say that every dry fire and derailment I have seen has been the fault of the shooter. I have seen just as many dry fires from not even nocking an arrow as I have seen caused by bad nock fit.
There is no excuse for a shop letting a bow / arrow combination leave the shop with the wrong size nocks for the bowstring serving but I have never seen it, I actually see more new bows with nocks that are too tight for this very reason. In this case the guy had been shooting the bow for some time without issue so it was obviously archer error.
It is not an isolated incident, I have lost count of the number of bows I have repaired and strings I have replaced caused by dryfires and derailing's.
I agree they would not know. Which is why I tell them what happened and I say I will not cover it again. But the cost of repair is only a little bit. What less than a tank of fuel? It puts the staff under a lot of stress for a small amount of money. I dont think customers think about the staff. My dad would say it is not worth the stress.
@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale All part of dealing with the public, something I don't have the temperament to do. Thankfully most people do the right thing.
So one more thing about horse bows. These can be extremely hard to string by yourself thanks to wood siyahs you have to over come that angle so it amplifies the difficulty in stringing. Worse there’s really no “universal stringing aid” or any stringing aids for sale because these bows have drastically different shapes and sizes.
All the quality bow manufacturers now have dropped the warranty on bows over 60lbs usually by half because so many people were making warranty claims when they tried to step through their 90lb bow and torqued it lol. Sadly they were often replacing or giving discounts on replacements.
Some don’t even make bows past 50lbs because of this issue (imo). Idiots think “oh I can pull my 70lb elite, Hoyt, etc so a 70lb Tatar bow will be no problem!” when they can’t even safely string the damn thing.
It’s worse with people thinking it’s so cool to buy a bio composite or traditional horn bow without the faintest clue how to properly warm up and tiller the bow. Horn is not fiberglass or carbon.
Needless to say wherever you go in the industry you find people blaming their own stupidity on the manufacturer or the shop. I think the lock down archer explosion had amped this up to 11.
Entry level equipment like Chinese compounds/recurves or pure fiberglass horsebows exist for a reason. Their cheap tools to learn on and make mistakes. Skipping the line in terms of performance/price or draw weight is always a recipe for disaster.
That’s some incredible damage!
Most people do not replace their nocks when they should ,they do not realise nocks wear. Love peoples honesty they stuff up and blame the bow retailer
I had a bow blow up and it was nothing to do with a dryfire...
limb pulled out of the socket, or to be more correct the socket insert pulled out of the riser and remained attached to the limb when I had it at full draw.
The limb and socket whacked me on the head and then my hand.
Got both a concussion and a hand that was numb for over a week.
Both limbs were fine, archery shop(not Archery Supplies) refused to warranty the bow claiming it was a dry fire.
They never did explain how a dry fire could leave the limbs fine, but have the riser itself fail and have the limb socket pull out.
yikes !! must have done somthing really stupid to damage it like that ? my rpm is going strong , love it. thanks to you guys for suplying me with this great product, everyone at my club loves the look of this bow , i call it my "fancy bow" can i but the riser and cams for spairs ??😁
Except.... the 1st gen nitros did have problems with this exact same thing happening before they switched to an esc limb to remedy this, all of those guys were shooting a 1200grain fishing arrow. Ask any of the guys on the lever lovers page.
you need to compare the Oneida bow against a juxing lever bow
In 35 years of archery I have had one dry fire, In that instance I was lucky that is was on a very low poundage compound, the only thing that happened was the peep jumped out of its spot in the string. I am still using that bow with the same strings and cams, as I said very lucky.
I would be embarrassed to rock up to an archery shop and try to pass off a dry fire damage as a warranty claim, just be honest, suck it up and admit your mistake and pay for the repairs.
have seen 4 dry fires in the last 12 months at my club,2 were caused by nock failure and in the other two by the unfortunate shooters not realizing they had not put an arrow in the bow!!
I did one first shot last night. Nock broke arrow fell at my feet. Looked at the bow - seemed fine. Next shot was scary though.
I had a Mathews Heli M that made me so fearful to ever let down a bow. No matter how hard I tried to let the draw down without torquing, that thing blew up on me 3 times. The pain on my forearm haunts me to this day. After the 3rd time I had to sell it. When I bought it new, my dealer put the bow on a scale to measure the draw weight and it blew up on him before I even got a chance to shoot it. I always wondered if that bow was known to this or was my bow messed up somehow. I’ve owned many bows and that one bow was the only one to ever have the string come off.
Are you guys able to get parts for the rpms??? If so I'd be interested in buying it if none of the cams are damaged
Hi Steve, are you still selling this model or their new xx model with a new riser design?
I've been finger shooting compounds for a few years now, had a couple of dry fires, got away with 50% of them. Had 2 due to polycarbonate nocks blowing out, so only use solid colour nocks now, that solved that problem. Had to shoot mediterranean due to class rules(barebow compound), found that I was pinching the nock and denocking the arrow, so decided that I wasn't willing to destroy my bow due to some stupid rule, been shooting 2 under for 2 years now, no more dry fires, shame I have to compete against sights and release aids to shoot it.
Just lost a recurve to a broken wood shaft, grievious😭
You can shoot CB by the rules 2-3 fingers under. With Traditional category too, just you have to touch the nock with one finger.
I've been shooting CB category for six years... I shoot 3 under, and I had even an opponent CB shooter who've shot with stringwalking technincs.
The only rule in CB releasing is you mustn't use release aid, but how you release with your fingers is your choice... mediterrean, 2-3 under, thumb, slavic release etc...
@@Shildran The Nfas equivalent is bowhunter and stipulates mediterranean unfortunately, should have been more specific. My bad.
its funny because I had my Hoyt Ventum pro for 1 hour and it just blew up for no good reason.......Had nothing to do with the fact I wanted to see how it felt and lost my grip on it. People just need to own their mistakes.
Lucky Hoyts are able to handle dry fires. Well so they say.
It wasnt me...
I had a partial dry fire...
The bow was loud as hell
The arrow hit the target but the arrow was missing a nock ear.
Had the bow checked by Merlin Archery UK... No issues. Phew.
Changed all my nocks.
Hey partial dry fires can happen if you don’t fully Nock the arrow but yeah it’s ALWAYS the users fault.
Often you get away with it. I had an 80# PSE Levitate. Dryfire - I dont know how it survived but everything was fine.
CORRECTION. It was the Ice Points where the nocks kept shattering. The nocks on the Pandarus Elites (parallel shafts) kept falling off in mid glight! Again beiter nocks solved the problem
I shoot traditonal recurve horse bows and you tend to shoot quicker then with say a compound or target recurve. It’s stupidly easy dry fire with a nock meant for modern archery because there’s that “double click” as it passes the narrow throat of the nock into the groove. Sometimes you miss that second click.
I appreciate this when shooting my junxing m125 (first compound now, I love compound now it’s so so so fun to have that stupid good accuracy with so little work) but on a traditional bows maybe your listening to some silly review from an Australian archery salesmen and you half knock the arrow ugh. Thank god the arrow was super heavy it didn’t delaminate.
I’ve since switched to shooting Vermil nocks. It’s not worth the risk. At any rate I can see how shooting fingers on and RPM you could find yourself in a similar situation.
Shooting release aid your not shooting fast taking that extra moment nocking is sort of part of the flow. You can’t blind Nock and get your release aid right or at least I can’t lol.
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@@saransmith8773 it’s pretty simple I was listening to this channel, didn’t pay attention, and didn’t fully engage the Nock on the string. It was a laminated traditional bow because the arrow was so heavy it absorbed a bunch of the energy even though it just flopped to the ground in front of me. The glue holding the layers of the bow together didn’t fail probably because of this.
The Vermil nocks can’t really be partially nocked. This hasn’t happened since. Shooting compound I pay more attention to the nocking process so the nock is always fully on the string. I could see how shooting a compound bow with fingers and blind nocking could cause a partial nock.
Something that doesn’t happen shooting with a release aid because at least I have to look to make sure it’s engaged on the Dloop and can check the nock as well.
@@OpiatesAndTits What are you telling me for? Too many Opiates and tits mate?
Is that the original string? The wrong string and dry fire would cause that
Looks like the original string.
You can clearly tell that was a dry fire.
wow, you get an average of two bows a week in that has failed? That's crazy
two a day. Warranty is a nightmare. It is almost one full time staff. I have a recurve riser yesterday very interesting looks like it has been left in a pool. Looks a mess. Customer claims shot it once and packed it away. I think I have to do a video on that. The bow is 2 weeks old. I have never seen anything like it. Rust. I live next to the ocean and my gear is out the back. Nothing like this bow which is 2 weeks old. It is amazing.
This can all be solved by just ordering their updated Nitro XX with carbon limbs, and not dry firing the bow.
lol no nocking point, can't see an arrow rest either... and looking at the damage it is clearly a dry fire. If there was an arrow on then it either fell off the shelf or its nock was broken, either way it resulted in a dry fire IMHO.
Yes the arrow was at his feet when he shot.
Let’s not forget forgetting to nock a arrow. Ask how I know😡
I had one guy at my club would forget 2 times every shoot. Bang - Trevor did you forget to nock your arrow.
The arrogance of people who flat out refuse to accept they may have made a mistake. I've been shooting for years, I've pinched a nock off the string and dry fired before. Dry fires happen, mistakes happen, it's normal. What's not normal is then going and abusing someone for your own silly error
You could send photos of that to any corner of the world and the consensus would be the same, dry fire. People trying to save a buck by blaming X,Y or Z as the reason and pressing for warranty, hopefully will get karma rearing in their face one day. And the mother should stop raising kids if this is the morality she instills into her offspring.
Off my rant, dang I want that bow.
So if I see this happen again - I can refer to this video. Reminds me of the guy with the Elite where the cams where damaged. Looked like a screw driver. I never knew. We replaced the bow then he did the credit card fraud thing - so got the bow for free. You just hope you dont get to many of those issues.
Send me that bow I will repair it .
For a person that uses this kind of bow is expected to fuck up....
Yes not as simple. I shot an Oneida in Canberra for years and it was all good. But yes.