Audi RS3 - The Quattro Reset Button - Test Drive | Everyday Driver
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- Опубліковано 17 кві 2023
- The Audi RS3 is back with all its 5-cylinder uniqueness! We take the 2022 out for a fast winter drive, on winter tires, to see if it stands out from the Golf R and many other VW products. The guys end up feeling differently, but both were glad to finally get some time with this rare and in demand Audi. Join us for a Test Drive!
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0-60 3.3. Nothing else this fast for this price.
And that's stock. Basic stage 1 tune and we're talking 2.8
Dude relax maybe 3.0 @k0unitX
The only problem with the RS3 is that we can't get it as a hatch in the US.
No manual, no hatch means no buy.
Wish we'd get ANY Audi hatch in the US. Tempted to just get an old used A3.
For me it's the fact that you simply can't get it at all in the US, in any shape or form... I've talked to over 30 dealers and still no luck - just wait lists. Haha.
@@paulitik7 If it was a manual and a hatch, you'd find some other reason it could not meet your blood purity standards
@@germanengineering204 Agreed. Mine is based on having 2 Irish Wolfhounds. Sedan's don't work for me.
Honestly just found this video and never seen your videos before. Started watching it like I've been watching your channel for a while which speaks to how you are able to keep my attention. Not sure what it is but you two make a great pair and I love the format. "Driver Swap" Its more organic than the over edited auto review channels. I like seeing you walk out and come back in. Gives me a sense of what people outside the car look like when inside the car.
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wow love your in depth reviews!!! its like going on a TEST drive without actually going on one!!!! been subscribed for years in the main channel and this!!! Love your reviews
I always look forward to new reviews from you guys. I just don't understand why you don't have more subscribers. Again, great job guys.
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You guys always do excellent reviews, and deserve more subscribers. Thank you !
Much appreciated!
It's AWD yet still weighs 300 LBS less than new M2. Kudos to Audi for not making heavier and larger "small" car in the line up
yes but its also not FWD based.
@@Liquid_Cooled I'm not talking about awd vs rwd. I'm pointing out that how did Audi manage to keep RS3 that has AWD around 3600 lbs while bmw M2 has rwd which weighs 3900 lbs.
AWD always weighs more than rwd or fwd counterparts.
It’s not 3900lbs. Already on scales UA-cam at 3762…and the G87 M2 has a bigger more powerful twin turbo 6 cylinder and this is 5 with single turbo.
@@TheHoosiers2008 RS3 will beat M2 from the dig, M2 doesn't stand a chance. Anyway I still think M2 is better drivers car.. but RS3 has four doors and usable back seats more practical all purpose car.
@@francisgomes9976 Yup I'm a BMW owner, and will admit the RS3 is a better daily driver than the M2 or the M240i easily!😄
You guys did a great job capturing what the RS3 is about. It isn’t perfect by any stretch but there is something special that makes it great. And yes, summer performance tires transform the car. Having tracked Caymans the RS3 doesn’t even come close; AND in real world driving I love hunting them down. Great work as always!
Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching as always!
Firstly great review - enjoyed that, well done!
So i've got the 2023 RS3 - Kyalami Green, Saloon (Yes i am very lucky i know - waiting list is at least a year but I lucked out) - Middle East Spec with honeycomb stitching, Alcantara wheel. The ME base spec vs Europe or US spec is definitely a lot more prestige and we are very lucky to have that over here. Now I've wanted an RS3 since i was a 18 (34 now) and the reason i bought the car was purely based on a number of reasons. I'm a circuit instructor down at the Dubai Autodrome and Abu Dhbai Yas Marina Circuit and have raced various forms of motorsport my entire life (single-seaters and cars). Now be it that I am an instructor, I have the privilege of being able to drive the BMW 330i, M240, M2 Comp, M3 Comp, M4 Comp, and M5 on a pretty much weekly basis. You can't fault the Ms, however, they are heavy, somewhat dull, do miss character, and the electronic systems (if on) do take a lot of the fun away. The RS3 however, has class handling (despite its understeer reputation), is extremely nimble (despite its somewhat heavyish weight) and the sound of that V5 is to die for. Yes, it lacks that mental crazy mode, but trust me if it did have it, you'd probably end up in a wall if you didn't know what you were doing cause the acceleration and speed this thing does is just crazy enough. The point being - interior is class, handling is very good (well done Audi on the new Quattro system), sound is immense, its planted on acceleration and corner speed, while also technically being able to put the kids in the back. If you were to consider this over an M240 or M2 - it will come down to preference - but in my opinion owning this and driving all the Ms around a circuit - Audi RS3 all the way. Anyone on the waiting list - keep waiting. Anyone who has one - I salute you. Anyone who doesn't - I hope you can get one.
PS I've not tried drift mode yet ... but Launch mode is ridic and good enough for me :)
I own one and I can tell you the summer setup changes the handling and steering vastly. Different car.
Ya I've got one too but am in a very northern climate. I took delivery in November, so I only drove the Pirellis for about 2 weeks and then had to put some different tires on it. In fact I had to drive the Pirellis during one little snow storm, which was quite the experience. There was a noticeable difference for sure after changing.
I actually think the car handles really well though. I had an M2 Competition before this, and I can take corners every bit as fast in the RS3 as I could with the M2. There might be a little less feedback in the wheel, but I don't really care about that personally. What I care about is how well it can actually traverse a road, and it does stellar in that category.
As an owner of the last gen RS3, agree with your love of the engine. It's the sweetest thing. Also, performance tires on the inverse stagger make a heck of a difference. Despite the transverse mounted engine and MQB architecture, the car actually has a hint of oversteer, not the usual Audi understeer. And, while steering feedback isn't great, it replaced an M235i in my house and it was a definite improvement on that front. Unfortunately, the new gen not coming to Canada so we live with what we have! Other than a very modest power tweak, the two aren't that different,
Love your stuff ... and love this review.
2025, we will have it again
Thanks again guys
I have a mk3 TT and after driving with the flat bottom steering wheel I love it. I would miss it going to anything else. I never thought I would have this opinion but it's just so comfortable. It is easily the best shape wheel I've ever had in a car. Not just the flat bottom section but the fact that the sides are slightly bumped out in the right places that your hands just fit where you like to hold the wheel.
Great review, I have tried other makes but I alway go back to Audi.
I feel like I got so lucky... I found one of these on Cars and Bids last year and won it for just under MSRP. I wasn't even really looking for one, it just came up and I decided to put in a few bids. The last 6 months spent with it have been nothing short of incredible, and I don't miss what it replaced in my garage--a 981 Cayman S. And yes, a set of PS4S helps the handling, but the "odd" chassis feel is definitely still there. Power down through a cloverleaf ramp and the line tightens, but if you lift off, understeer prevails, since the fancy rear diff can only do it's work under power load. It's so opposite to what driving RWD cars has taught me. It's definitely a quirk, but one worth getting used to because of the SOUND!
I discovered your channel this evening and this was the first review I've watched. Massive respect and major "thumbs up" for a thoughtful, insightful, and fair review of this fine automobile. I'm still processing how much it resembles my current vehicle....a 2022 VW Jetta GLI Autobahn in pure gray with the black package. Aside from the engine differences, that awesome 5-cylinder in the Audi and VW's venerable 2.0 TSI platform in the GLI......I'm assuming that RS-3 was utilizing the 7-speed DSG gearbox as is in my GLI? Thanks for this review and I lok forward to many more.....Todd
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Great review! How about adding the CT4 Blackwing in for comparison?
I have a 2018 rs3 great car wakes up with tunes
While you guys were just sitting parked talking about the car I was enjoying the sound of that engine just at IDLE! It's sonorous! This is a reason why ICE is here for a while yet.
wish you could have tried it with different tires....game changer
Best American review I have ever seen.
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I have a 2018 TTRS and I love the car. You need good tires to take advantage of the handling dynamic being front heavy. I love when people ask "is that a TTRS" The car is sluggish in comfort mode but when in dynamic and manual shifting it wakes up a lot. My car is tuned with an e85 tune, and it’s super car fast.
It’s fast but the quattro system is awful 🙌🏻
@@P_M21 Quattro haldex on MQB sporty cars (A3 2.0, S3, RS3, Golf R, TTS/TTRS etc.) is great, it`s way better than 4matic+ on my friends AMG GT 43 for example. His back wheels always spins when Quattro just goes as fast as it can without any wheelspin
@@agnttgr I have a TTRS 8S. The awd setup is awful. You can only play with it in the snow. The new RS3 has a much much better awd system.
@@agnttgr The GT43 should be 30/70 if I’m not mistaken.
Hi, from Japan!! Today is a good day I can watch your new video!! Yes, I love the RS3 more than BMW 2 series but the problem is the price of RS3. It’s about $85K in Japan. Too, expensive!! By the way, I always focus on tons of missed call on your phone aap.
I get most of the gripes with it but a lot comes to how it’s spec’d. If you get it with all the bells and whistles it won’t disappoint, yes the transmission feels a little sluggish as does power in comfort and eco etc etc but put it into performance mode and it all changes and is a completely different car, let’s face it when you select comfort you are not after performance and that’s how it’s programmed. I found the handling is a bit wanting in all the modes when you push it until you select performance and it just corners brilliantly when pushed hard. Highly suggest order it fully loaded as that’s what an RS is about otherwise if you want to sacrifice a little and save some cash get the S3
Wow I feel old now. I rememeber when the Beautiful Audi A7 sold for $60-$70K and I thought that was so expensive. Love the show!
Hell I'd much rather this than an A7 anyway. This is almost 2 seconds faster 0-60 than the current A7.
Btw, the 2023 A7 starts at 70k. So your memory must not be from all that long ago.
Makes me miss my 07’ A3 Wagon
I've had the 2023 8Y for about 5 months now after waiting about 9 months after ordering. I traded in an M2 Competition for it, and it's packaged exactly as this one is. Sports exhaust, tech package and black option. It's probably not everybody's cup of tea, but I really like it. In fact, if Audi would just offer the damn thing in a manual transmission, it would be about the perfect car for me. The M2 was more exhilarating, although this is actually a little faster in spite of that, but overall I'd say it's the best car I've ever owned.
Oh and one thing these reviewers NEVER mention is how much better Audi's b&o stereo is compared to the others in its class. It's INFINITELY better. To me that definitely matters.
Where’d you order it ?
Currently got 7k down my goal is 10k and definitely buying the rs3 do you have any tips or advice you can give me from you now having it for half a year? Any help is good thanks
@@bebecksingh1078 Sorry, didn't see this before. I ordered it from Morong Audi in Falmouth Maine.
@@roba.6419 Nice congrats. I think you'll love it. I have no real tips, other than to get your order in as soon as possible. The wait is even longer now I've heard.
As far as ownership, the car is a breeze. About the only thing I'd recommend is getting a few spare lug nut covers. They're only a few bucks a piece and I've had 2 fall off so far. That might be because I'm in an area that experiences vast temperature changes though. Good luck!
Why would you think it's not everyone cup of tee ?
These are one of the best daily cars for all climates. Great size, very quick, sounds amazing, comfortable, and handle great. Tune it, and it’s an insane beast.
These 5 cylinders are half the V10 found in R8 and Lamborghini Huracans. Hence why they sound similar. Same family.
Not sure how many will be built, but Audi might stop or slow production soon. Supply is getting short.
You can’t order them no more in England or Australia
@@dannysolano2133 I think it’s like that in most countries, they are testing disguised series 2 versions at the moment so not sure if they stopped taking orders because of the impending new model or because they can’t get certain parts like the torque splitter, could be torque splitter because you can still order most other models
Audi’s Quattro system is essentially front wheel drive with some power sent to the rears when slippage is detected. Combine that with a forward mounted engine and you’ve got an understeer situation that cannot be overcome. BMW’s AWD system is more rear-drive oriented, but still, it adds weight and complexity. For me it’s RWD only, and only with a manual.
In performance mode it has bugger all understeer, I have pushed one of these to it’s limits and can honestly say that. Love the BMW but not a fan of the new grill designs or the rear end biased to tell you the truth as nearly all my driving is on the road and it’s only on track that I prefer the rear end drive feel
People shit on this new 8Y A3 architecture for being cheaper feeling than the outgoing 8V A3, but interesting you found the opposite to be true.
I too agree the RS3 is Audi's best product, mainly because it is the most characteristic and charismatic, mostly down to the Ur-quattro sounding Inline 5 turbo motor.
Interesting review, but quite a bit left out that makes the Audi RS 3 so SPECIAL. The performance was greatly improved on our 2019 RS 3 by installing 245/40/18 tires on lightweight alloy 18 inch wheels... major improvement in our our weekly country back road runs at speed, as weather permits. A great automobile indeed, now at 47,446 miles and still putting big grins on this old face! (updated 7/2/23)
with my mk7 golf R you learn to accept the cpu's controls and drive safe faster, changing to thinker (not wider) tire and sticky er helps so much
great review! I have a stage 3 2019 rs3 making roughly 600hp and the steering feel is definitely mute but its mostly due to the mag ride I had the car for about a month before I ripped it out and put coil overs and sway bars on it, If you guys are interested I can Drive out to you guys and let you see the difference in what better tires and suspension can do for this car! also being tuned it has the shift feel you want, it still scares me sometimes.
let me get your oem suspension:) 90k on my 2019 and it's beyond shot
stage 3, lol
@@VS666 just means upgraded turbo in audi terms
@@nickd5193 haha tbh I though stage 3 was everything besides turbo and built motor.
@@krazysrfr Lmaoo understandable, every brand has their own stages. Stage 2 for rs3s = fbo, aka downpipe intake turbo inlet intercooler spark plugs
Paid MSRP and only waited a couple months (Fall of last year). Dealer allocation tango red
What winter tires are they exactly ?
Great review, but your evaluation of the steering and steering feel is sort of an outlier, compared to those of other reviews I've read and seen. In fairness to the car, you may want to drive it again with either summer tires or more performance- biased all-seasons than the ones you had here. Interesting comments on the steering feel, but I was pretty surprised that was how it turned out with you.
I have track tires on mine and the steering is super light. Honestly though, I don't mind it at all. You still get the info you need driving it hard. I don't need to feel every pebble on the road.
My Focus RS had much more steering feel, but somehow the RS3 still communicates better somehow.
@testdrivevideos
If you had a choice between the Audi S3 and RS3 - which would you choose?
Currently, I am the market for a new car and have narrowed my options down to those two options. Unfortunately, none of the local dealerships ever have either of those models in stock and when they do that are immediately sold - so I am unable to test drive either.
I am seeking an executive luxury daily driver with power/kick and extremely smooth shifting. I have no intention of ever drifting but tend to have a lead foot on the highway lol so would like the ability to do high speeds easily.
The 5 cylinder engine on the RS3 sounds so tempting but I wonder if it's too much power.
Any thoughts?
I just picked up an 8Y and it's so much better than the 8V. I am so blown away with it and the way it drives. I've taken it to the US-129 dragon right after I bought in Atlanta. I will highlight the ownership experience after a bit more seat time :).
Please drive this car again with the proper tires
Oh yeah, Audi is going to get right on that.
Could you also do a review video on the Audi RS5 Competition ?!?!
The Golf actually has very good rear seat room, my guess is the big luxurous Audi sport seats eat into that room
So they actually have one these in GA I was looking at about a week ago and believe or not, it was at msrp price
The wider front track make it look like it skipped leg day. Ultimate evolution of a FWD biased AWD turbo screamer with a suit on.
On a waiting list for approximately 6 months, and was told 18 month wait here in the US! Paying msrp, and definitely sounds like it will be worth the wait in the end!
We're glad you are on the list for one. Thanks for watching!
@@TestDriveVideos You're welcome! You guys do a great job, and I look forward to your informative reviews.
Dang, I'm on 5 different dealer's wait-lists (all at MSRP)! Haha, but I've only been on them for a month and a half. If I still don't have a build date by the end of the year (which likely I won't), I may just buy a used RS5.... But honestly, I'm back and forth on it. Sometimes I want the RS5 more, other times I'd rather wait as long as it takes for the RS3.
I need help. Lol
Try to get your interest rate locked in early. Low chance but it’ll save you a lot
@@crxtodd16 Waiting for the RS3 is the better choice! Most reviews say it's the best driving Audi in the entire lineup, and it's going to hold it's value incredibly well!
It's not little, it's massive.
As for the transmission hesitating, slap it in RS mode and transmission itself has a sport mode that can be switched over too as well
It is a beautiful color.. it sounds great. 400 hp.. nice, 3600 lb is way heavy.
And no stick shift.
Sheesh the stick shift, I'll eat your row your own for lunch and yes I know what I'm missing. Drove an FD RX-7 for 18 years
@@johntechwriter Stick is too slow for these engines. You will busy a trans easy popping the clutch.
I’ve been on wait list for 1 year still waiting
I’d be interested to compare to a Golf R swapped with this motor. I know you guys really don’t test modified cars, but how much difference the form factor makes would be interesting.
I’ve wondered the same thing. The Audi 5 Cyl engine is so Amazing and I’m sure would fit almost perfect on the Golf R. The Golf R would definitely be a sleeper with that engine. It would also be nice since the U.S doesn’t get the hatch version of the RS3, so that would be the closest thing to it. All that being said, I Love the RS3. It’s one of my dream cars😍❤️😩
The new Gold R has a few deficiencies compared to previous models like the info system, drivers seat position, software glitches etc, I would be waiting on the next Golf R if anyone wants one and hope they rectify the problems
One of the best engines in a meh car. Wish VAG would offer this in the Golf R or something other than a tiny sedan.
RS3 or CT4-V Blackwing with a manual? Considering both and they’d be in the same neighborhood price-wise.
The Cadillac is. Rs3 is not
I did not expect Todd to like an MQB car at all!! But I'm glad you are nudging me towards a theatrical CLA.
RS3 is the best all arounder in its segment! Benz has terrible adaptive suspension, and rides stiff all the time in comparison to the RS3! I've been deciding between the two for a while myself.
Plus the 5 pot is way better sounding than any 4 cylinder!!
Exactly the reviewers even mention the comfortable adaptive dampers compared to the CLA. Tons of reviewers have said RS3 suspension is always in contact with the ground no matter how bumpy.
I would argue that the IS500 is a competitor as well.
Also, it is the one I would get and have gotten for the styling, engine, quality and reliability.
At $66,630 it makes more sense to me 🤷♂️.
Just one man's opinion.
I love that car too but it’s just too slow to be a competitor. 12.8 quarter mile is the same as an S3 but I would assume the LS500 does have a 60-120mph that’s closer to the RS3 bc it’s a V8 and it’s probably definitely more reliable bc it’s natural aspirated and a Lexus
@everydaydriver will you guys ever get any of the Blackwings?
You forgot the CT4 V blackwing which can be had for the same price.
Blackwing is a hell of a good car, but doesn't offer the same versatility as the RS3!!
Yeah I think I’d have the BW over this.
Make a car with a unique engine, and you can't make enough of them! Such a shame that this engine is going away.
Only problem for me is no manual and it's not rear biased.
It wouldn’t be an RS model then, I get you but that’s what RS models are about
I wonder how reliable these are
I would like to see it have ventilated seats. At its price point and segment the S4 has ventilated seats and now even the accord and Camry come standard with ventilated seats. And even VWs Jetta GLI also offers ventilated seats and it’s half the price. The engine is the main selling point of the vehicle. And it’s a good engine. But the S3 is a better deal for significantly less money. And there are already people that can engine swap the 4 cylinder for the 5 cylinder for less than the RS3
I’m interested, as I owned a previous gen S3, and it was a decent car, but I just couldn’t get past the front wheel drive biased nature of the car. It just didn’t want to hoon.
If someone would kindly reply to my comment, much appreciated in advance. Wondering between RS3, RS5 hatchback or Macan GTS. Wanting something fun, fast, but can also haul my tennis ball machine, RS3 trunk is small but I think I can place ball machine in backseat (not ideal but I can buy something like a seat cover to protect the leather). Thoughts?
The Macan is the most balanced of those 3, with the most neutral rotation and handling. We refer to it as Porsche’s hot hatch. The RS3 has the most raucous handling, but as you know less space. It also revels its FWD nature now and then. Thanks for watching!
Can't wait for Audi OSRS with a manual transmission on it.
Although the RS3 is more practical than my TTRS, the RS3 looks like a family sedan, the TTRS more like a sports car.
It's the best street car than could be worst on track. I'll be needing a daily and the drive is fine I just still don't understand why they made sedan to begin with and why not all to be hatchback
Go go go 😂😂
I don't get why they are complaining about the steering feel when it's on winter tires. Put some cup sports on there it will come alive.
Thoughts on the IS500 as a competitor?
The S3 would beat the IS500
Maybe for the first 40k miles.....
@@android175 nahhh they have same quarter mile but the Lexus passes it at 10more mph. Also LS 500 probably winning in a rolling race bc it’s a N/A V8
@@dman5849 looking at the numbers again youre right. (I has misremembered the s3 quarter mile)
But the numbers are still very close.
M2?
Agreed, do NOT pay markup! I've always loved the A3 in general, something about it speaks to me. Small & Sleeper, that's my jam. 🙂 The problem is I keep my cars for a long time and that's not wise with an Audi product. Great review!
My 2006 Audi A3 Sport Hatchback manual lasted just fine through 165,000 miles and 10 years. Once you get one with the "hotdog" engines, however, I'd guess the longevity will be decreased, just like any hi-po vehicle.
@@rlsedition Except the RS3 , and TTRS ranked 2 out of German cars of all brands going back 10 years in an article I recently read published by Hot Cars!
@@germanengineering204 I'm quite sure there isn't statistical data that shows the 5-cylinder performance models are as trouble-free as the 4-cylinder models from Audi, partly because there haven't been many of the 5-cylinder cars sold in the last 10 years; something to do with price. And I pay attention to the automotive media and have never heard of Hot Cars!.
@@rlsedition Find me one article that says otherwise about the 5 cylinder! Just because you've never heard of the source doesn't mean it's not credible!
@@germanengineering204 I Googled Hot Cars! to see what that was all about. Plenty of articles about performance cars and lots of "Top 10s". Then I searched for "Audi RS3" and there were lots of articles on that model, but nothing that mentioned reliability. Next, I searched for "Audi RS3 Reliability" and nothing came up.
I actually like the RS3, being a former A3 and GTI owner. It occupies a sweet spot in performance versus price, along with the Cadillac CT4 V Blackwing and BMW M2, as long as you stay away from expensive options like ceramic brakes. However, I didn't buy an RS3/CT4 BW/M2 due to price - $60+ is a lot to spend on a car with the engine being the best feature, especially when you also own a Ducati sport bike (which will annihilate any of those cars). I spent $40k for a used Alfa Giulia Ti Sport with low miles. Its 4-cylinder engine trades some HP for looks (best of any competitor IMO), steering precision/feel and handling, having 50/50 weight distribution.
Volvo also has a 5 Cylinder
Get summer tires on it before reviewing. Winter tires kill anything.
No other performance car on the road is as tire dependent as the new RS3. Audi has some neat tricks incorporated to overcome the flawed design architecture. Unfortunately the winter tires adversely affect performance in the same proportion that the Trofeo’s improve it. Love your channel but this review really misses the true point of this car.
I don’t know man I just put Michelin pilot sport s tires on my Veloster N and it is a night and day difference vs the stock perelli p zeros. I used to have massive wheel hop and also half a sec slower 0-60 times compared to the pilot sport tires and the cornering is far superior than stock. But yeah I agree tires can make all the difference in the world lol. Looking to get an rs3 as my next car soon.
RS3 looks beautiful. M2 and CTS4 V have MT, though...
The bottom part of the rear bumper is a bit too big and the fake plastic stripe on the bumper doesn't look good. Overall though a great looking car. These will sell fast.
This may sound foolish, but I'm surprised ventilated seats aren't an option, especially for $65K
You don't even get a reversing camera as standard unless you tick the comfort and sound pack.
You are foolish… because Audi put surrounding view on cheaper Q3 while deleting that front camera on S3 and RS3… and no heated steering wheel, they’re all available on S4.
Why cant we have a transverse mid-engined RWD turbo 5 cylinder? Like a german MR2? The whole point of the 5 is it gives you some of the smoothness and character of a 6 but in a form factor that isn't ridiculous in a transverse configuration. (Yes, both I6's and V6's are ridiculous in a transverse configuration, don't even mention the NorthStar). Yet all of them seem to be AWD or FWD. Why can't someone just drop this engine in the middle of a car?
Fun fact about the RS3 line, it was never planned. After Audi put out what was supposed to be a one-off TT RS with the 2.5 5-pot engine, German car fans got together and petitioned Audi with a list of people with an intent to buy the RS3. They managed to convince Audi
I want the drivetrain in my mk6 Golf R. I don't really care about the Audi cars themselves though.
You guys need to find one all tuned. It’s a different car.
New RS3 or lightly used RS5? Which would you choose, assuming both are very close to the same price?
The car will be modified, and my goals are over 600whp and get low 10's in the 1/4. Both have the aftermarket support to reach these goals. I like the relative ease of modifying, the looks, and the lighter weight of the RS3. But, I also like the luxury, the more RWD bias, and just overall presence of the RS5.
I don't like the relatively FWD nature of the RS3 (though I am aware the new rear diff helps with this), nor do I like the relative lack of luxury on the inside cabin. On the other hand, I don't like the idea of buying a used car (ie the RS5), nor do I like the complexity of the RS5 as working on it/modifying it would be a lot more tedious and more work vs the RS3.
Thoughts? Not interested in the S4, btw, though I do respect what it offers.
The Daza engine is leaps more tunable. They can easy get to 600hp with just bolt on and a tune. You can 1000hp with a ims1000 from iroz. The engine is truly special
@@ericp2427 Thanks for the response! And you're right, the DAZA engine has a lot more aftermarket support than the EA839TT from the RS5. I'd probably end up having to drop in some forged rods and pistons to *reliably* meet my power goals, but I'm not necessarily opposed to that. Also, I really love the look of the newest RS3...
You can't tune or flash the 8Y RS3 yet, just so you know
RS3 all the way the S5 has more aftermarket support than the RS5, IE stage 3 is already doing low 10s in 1/4 on the b9 S5/4 platform.
Edit just saw not interested in s4, so RS3 for sure. But man the RS5 sportback is sweet.
For me it comes down to what style and features you want as to which to buy, that RS3 handles more than adequately for road use when spec’d correctly and there isn’t many times you will drive it to its limits on the road but on the track it’s a different story. I’ve driven most of the RS range and they are all brilliant and you can mod them to some crazy power levels, the RS3 is in development phase with some performance companies so won’t be too far away to unlocking it but there are currently mods you can do. I guess one last point is and older RS5 is not going to be as refined as a new RS3 so the RS3 will be the better driver
You can't evaluate this car with full winter tires. Period. Why couldn't you try one in a warmer clime with more performance-focused tires?
That said, this car is all about the engine and that's cool, but like many high-performance cars today, it's speed can hardly be used on the street without fear of losing your license.
Knowing that and not being able to see/drive one of these beforehand and recognizing that the RS3 would be mid $60k dollars for me, I checked out the Alfa Giulia, a Ti Sport model with the base, 280 HP 4-cylinder. No, it doesn't have the power of the RS3 or quite the price, but the vehicle dynamics made this an easy decision. The steering is wonderful, the cornering is sublime and you can feel the 50/50 weight distribution, plus the ZF automatic w/paddle shifters is great (and I'm coming from a manual GTI) and the exterior is easier on my eyes than this Audi. What I give up, besides the extra power, is dealers around every corner and, I guess, resale value, but I intend to keep this car long enough that resale was not a major factor. What an underrated car the Giulia is!
I can't imagine being interested in owning a VW or Audi these days. Or ever I guess. I just don't get it. Maybe a second or third gen GTI? My first car was a 10 year old 1980 Audi 5000s. That had a 5 cylinder. I guess BMW and the Mercedes aren't that interesting to me either. I also had a 2003 325i sport for several years.
Like you said you just don't get It lol!! This new car is exceptional, and if you drove one, and had the funds you'd buy one of these guaranteed! 😀
I might lease an Audi I would
Never buy one. Ever.
I love this thing but $65k is base model C8 money.
I have an RS3 on order, and the price of the C8 really has me questioning my decision at times!😄
@@germanengineering204 it's all comes down to what you want/need in a car. I have three vehicles, so my C8 is strictly a toy and was also closer to $80k after I optioned it out.
If I only had one all around car, and a strict $65k budget, the RS3 would be really hard to beat.
Did you see when and if yours is gonna be built? They all might get cancelled.
What other cars do you have besides the c8?
That RS3 needs a lot of work on the pain. Ouch swirl marks all over 😢
You guys seemed more entertained driving the Elantra N than the RS3, speaks volume to the achievement of the N!
Audi cars are absolutely great but they dont excel in anything. It creates this mundane feeling despite the recipe for greatness being there.
That Elantra N, even with its recently modified exterior, still looks childish to me - way overdone.
The way the car looks is 70% of my decision RS3 over anything old M2 looks pretty good though to
Hyundais are actually pretty good but the only thing they have on this is the manual if that’s what you prefer but in all honesty they are not as quick in manual form than a double clutch auto like the RS and the one thing that will annoy you is when you are next to one of these in your Hyundai and it leaves you for dust
@@knight2425 At nearly twice the Elantra N's price, I would hope the RS3 could leave the Elantra in its dust!
$65k huh?.....man for half that price I'm looking really hard at a 10 year old S8 plus......
Audi in Greenwich Connecticut wanted $10k over. I told them to scratch. Then went to BMW and wanted to order an M2 (currently have a x4m40i), they wanted $15k over. Been buying cars from this dealership for 12 years. Told them to scratch. Called BMW in Westchester NY and they have a policy that they are not allowed to apply dealer markups. i gave them my deposit and now i am patiently waiting...buying a car nowadays is a nightmare...
Paid MSRP last year
MSRP when ordering only
Audi Fremont, California
Which dealer in Westchester? Ray Catena on 119?
@@bokiNYC yup. 8-12 months. Great dealership
RS3 will hold value better, the M2 is polarizing and forgettable
Not the only 5cyl available in the US.
Volvo too 😂😂😂
I will own one if I ever get money for it I buy one..come on audi u can give me one I'm good for it..
Between the RS3, the CLA45, and the "2 series" (FWD BMW's aren't actually cars, they're more like handbags or jewelry), what I'd do, is I would go to the Mercedes dealership, get like... halfway through the sales process, and then go "what am I doing? If I want a fast fun AWD commuter and it can't have a stick shift, why would I not buy an electric car?". Then I would go home and bellyache for days about how great the EV6 is to drive and yet how much I HATE how it looks and operates inside and out to the point of physical revulsion, then I'd go test drive a Taycan and immediately reject it because it has no one-pedal driving mode and costs too much, and THEN I'd go see if the i4 is better than the Volvo C40/XC40.
Edit: I just realized the i4 does the rectangular tablet slab thing where your gauge cluster and center console display look like two widescreen computer monitors... like a cubicle... so no it doesn't really matter how good it drives, I'd take the Volvo.
I feel like these two don't like each other in real life lol
More than 15 years of videos and 800 podcast would suggest otherwise - but we're glad you found us and appreciate you watching!
@@TestDriveVideos well that's good to know then! Keep it up
Is it me, or does the 2023 Honda Civic look strangely similar?
It's you.
Why does the Audi 5 cylinder sound like if you took a Volvo 5 cylinder turbo from the 90's and scooped its soul out? If the Volvo 5 cylinder is the eager intern, the Audi is the person who has been working in the office for the past 30 years and who takes no pleasure in anything they do, but they keep doing it because they are good at it and get paid for it.
Offer a stick and then come back with saying reset button.
I would square those tires up asap
We need hatchback ●
I like that car, but there's no way you guys fit in that thing! It's a ringer!
You're kidding right lol?
M340i w or w/o Xdrive is the much better buy at this price / class, though it is technically a class above. At least that is my BMW biased opinion is lol.
Audi’s Quattro system is essentially front wheel drive with some power sent to the rears when slippage is detected. Combine that with a forward mounted engine and you’ve got an understeer situation that cannot be overcome.
M lites aren't going to be as good as a RS3 in driving dynamics, and the Audi is faster, and much lighter! M240i xdrive is what I drive by the way!
340 is big, heavy, boring ubiquitous. You will lose money when you sell, I won't lose a dime in the RS3 and I'll have more fun
So annoying channels would just copy other channels. The straight pipes.
? - We’re guessing this is the first time you’ve seen our work.
This is our second channel, our first channel (Everyday Driver) has been around since 2007 and we were the first car channel to do dual host reviews, both intercut between two hosts and side by side in the cabin. Long before anyone else, including Straight Pipes. Glad you found us, and thanks for watching!
@@TestDriveVideosit is. Rewatching with a bit more patience. For a second I was annoyed on you folks commenting on the car as you have snow tires on it - until you mentioned it and I realized you knew lmao.
I find the “ unoriginal” channels plaguing UA-cam in recent years extremely frustrating and oversaturated.
The engine is not the reason you buys this car. I'm sick of reviewers raving about inline-5s, inline-6s, V8s and then when they buy cars, they do that on completely different considerations than the engine. Todd, Paul -- did you buy your cars because of the engine? No. Would you ever buy a car because of the engine? No (I know most people would answer "yes", but I would want to first see these same people actually do that, not just say "yes" thinking of some super-hypothetical scenario of a car that's got a V12, is a fuckin' hatchback, weighs like Miata, has room for a family of 7, is at the same time a wagon, does 30 MPG and costs 25,000 new)
In this case, the engine makes this car more interesting than many other versions of the same car (and cars on the same MQB chassis). And in that argument, Paul and Todd have both bought cars with the engine in mind. Todd owns a Twin Turbo 300zx because it’s the better engine configuration than the non turbo. Paul has kept his 981 cayman because he doesn’t want the 4 cylinder in the 718. Paul owns a 928 because he likes the front mounted V8, etc. while we acknowledge buying a certain model/shape/kind of car just because of an engine isn’t likely, choosing a certain trim of something you like because of the engine included (as discussed here) is worthwhile and definitely happens. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@TestDriveVideos I hear you, but that's not the same as buying a "meh" car just because the inline-5 is cool.