60’s Mono Masterpieces

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 2 жов 2024

КОМЕНТАРІ • 84

  • @jricoc3475
    @jricoc3475 3 місяці тому +5

    The sleeve on "Paperback Writer" is pretty funny. Like the guy who created it first got a picture of Paul, and then added those for George and John ... and made their guitar orientation match Paul's!

  • @Nuclearmagenta
    @Nuclearmagenta 3 місяці тому +3

    I would add the first three albums in The Turtles catalog (It Ain’t Me Babe, You Baby and Happy Together). Their stereo counterparts are challenging, to put it most charitably, due to the hard panning (vocals on one channel, instruments on the other).

  • @coolfurillo8169
    @coolfurillo8169 3 місяці тому +3

    Some of my favorite albums in mono:
    The Who - My Generation
    The Rolling Stones - Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass)
    Small Faces - S/T
    Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn
    The Zombies - Begin Here
    Them - The Angry Young Them
    The Kinks - Something Else

  • @senatorjimdracula1603
    @senatorjimdracula1603 3 місяці тому +5

    That's funny, the very first record I thought of when I saw the video title was The Kinks Face To Face! I love that record in mono, actually I love the way the Pye studios sounded in general. I always tell people I wanted to make a record that sounds like THAT! Also, all Beatles UK mono mixes up to and including Revolver. All of the early Stones records as well. Check out the set called "The Rolling Stones in MONO" and I'm sure you'd agree. Dylan's Blonde On Blonde is great in mono as well. Also, the single mix of Help! in mono seems WAY better than the one on the LP. Hendrix Are You Experienced in mono is a lot different, I don't know if it can be considered better, but it's a nice listen. Great episode, Tom!

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому

      @@senatorjimdracula1603 I have both those mono Stones and Dylan box sets on CD. Both are excellent. I always found Lennon’s vocal on the Help mono 45 version sort of distant and disembodied whereas the stereo version he’s up front and center. 😉

  • @John-n9m7r
    @John-n9m7r 3 місяці тому +2

    (1) Before 1967 many stereo versions of rock records had too much separation between channels. In those cases the mono was often better. It all depended on the engineer doing the mix and the state of the equipment in the studio.
    (2) All the record albums I bought in the 1960s (mostly Beatles) were mono, for one compelling reason: lower cost. Back then a typical mono album cost $2.99. Stereo, $3.99 and up. Big difference to a kid on limited allowance!

  • @danee9647
    @danee9647 3 місяці тому +3

    I prefer stereo unless it's unbalanced where the vocals are in one speaker and the music in the other, then i always play the mono version.

    • @seed_drill7135
      @seed_drill7135 3 місяці тому

      A lot of those were recorded on two track systems. They laid down the instruments on one track, the vocals on the other, then mixed them down to mono. Then some executive said, but we can charge more for stereo albums, so they took those two tracks and cut them as-is.

  • @garagespace1
    @garagespace1 3 місяці тому +3

    When you mentioned the Beatles, I just knew you were going to bring up the Paperback Writer and Rain 45RPM. The ringing guitars, bass and vocals are phenomenal, LOUD and crystal clear. My favorite A & B sides of all time. A true, timeless treasure.

  • @robgasper8521
    @robgasper8521 3 місяці тому +3

    If an album was mixed in mono to begin with I prefer it that way. Not a fan of mono mixed into stereo down the road. After I got the Beatles mono box I couldn’t listen to their stereo mixes anymore. In fact, It’s kind of shocking how bad the most recent stereo mixes of their catalog was to these ears. Another great video and topic Tom!

  • @kingofallmediums2123
    @kingofallmediums2123 3 місяці тому +3

    Jumpin Jack Flash to me is a top 50 song of all time! 😊😊😊😊😊

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому +1

      @@kingofallmediums2123 That riff is an all time top 5 riff for me. And that chorus…..awesome!

  • @russellkroeker2822
    @russellkroeker2822 3 місяці тому

    I was quite impressed with The Who Sell Out in mono. So many differences compared to the stereo.

  • @jackwezesa1081
    @jackwezesa1081 2 місяці тому

    Hey Tom. Are you listening to monos on a mono cartridge? That’s a game changer in itself. My favorite band in mono is the Mamas & Papas. Their stereo records are horrendous in comparison. Nice album picks! Love the UK Stones monos !

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  2 місяці тому

      @@jackwezesa1081 The Stones UK monos are awesome 😉

  • @paulgoldstein2569
    @paulgoldstein2569 3 місяці тому +1

    I thought with a lot of the Phil Spector productions of the sixties, if you hear those tracks in stereo, such as the Christmas album, that imaginary Deep Wall Of Sound just isn't there, which is the reason many but not all have only been reissued in mono. But you can hear the individual instruments more, rather than just an overall sound. So some may think the monos are better, others the stereos. But to me, they are just different.

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому +1

      You’re right. Just depends on the individual’s taste. Just picked up that Back To Mono box recently. Fantastic!

    • @paulgoldstein2569
      @paulgoldstein2569 3 місяці тому

      @@tomrobinson5776 That may have been reissued as it was for long deleted. But most of the rarities have since been reissued elsewhere. But I will check on the box. I never bought it, as I had most of it's tracks elsewhere. It was originally on the ABKCO label. But they lost the rights to the Spector productions, and Sony took over, releasing new comps by The Ronnettes, Darlene Love ETC, with mostly the same tracks that ABKCO released by them.

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому

      @@paulgoldstein2569 It’s a used copy in excellent shape from ‘91.

  • @roygoad2870
    @roygoad2870 3 місяці тому +1

    The Beatles Get Back/Don’t Let Me Down was the last Beatles single mixed for mono format in the U.K. though the U.S release was in stereo. I think the mono version sounds a lot more punchy! It’s also slightly longer

  • @ghengismcgillicutty4695
    @ghengismcgillicutty4695 3 місяці тому +1

    I never really got the mono/stereo thing until I stumbled across a 45 of Paperback Writer in my local. Wow, that blew my head off. NOW I get it. And just yesterday(!) Came across an original mono of Are You Experienced? Crackly, but in mono still listenable and packs a punch!

  • @gerardocarroll1158
    @gerardocarroll1158 3 місяці тому +1

    Pet sounds, better in mono, also I have an Australian mono Satanic Majesties Request, very punchy, also the Dandelion/ We Love You single, great in mono. Sgt Pepper, Revolver, Magical Mystery Tour, also great in mono.

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому

      I always preferred Revolver and Pepper in stereo.

    • @gerardocarroll1158
      @gerardocarroll1158 3 місяці тому

      @@tomrobinson5776 think, Tomorrow never knows is better in stereo.

  • @superhet7281
    @superhet7281 3 місяці тому +2

    Great stuff! We could talk about mono vs. stereo mixes forever. For example, Satisfaction is way better in mono, IMHO. Some of the stereo mixes I’ve heard are terrible.

    • @seed_drill7135
      @seed_drill7135 3 місяці тому +2

      The true stereo mix of Satisfaction is very rare, most of what’s out there is Dexterized. But the mono is still best.

    •  3 місяці тому

      @@seed_drill7135 What do you mean by "Dexterized"?

    • @superhet7281
      @superhet7281 3 місяці тому

      Yes! And that goes for Get Off My Cloud as well. I’ve heard some lousy stereo mixes.

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому

      @@superhet7281 All those early Stones singles have a magic in Mono. More punch and clarity.

  •  3 місяці тому

    Never knew about Liege and Lief. Interesting.

  • @seed_drill7135
    @seed_drill7135 3 місяці тому +1

    Extremely jealous of that Fairport, which I had no idea existed. Here are some I’d add:
    Jefferson Airplane Surrealist Pillow. Poorly produced and drenched in echo, the mono version minimizes those negatives and adds punch.
    Grateful Dead s/t. Another poorly produced record that benefits from a tighter mix.
    The Beach Boys: All albums from Today through Smiley Smile are fake stereo, allegedly due to Brian, who is deaf in one ear, being in charge of the mixing.
    If you like bubble gum, those Super-K productions are all better in mono, but you have to get the 45s or a promo Lp.

    • @Nuclearmagenta
      @Nuclearmagenta 3 місяці тому

      This is my understanding (and I could be wrong): all the 1965 stereo Beach Boys albums were fake stereo (or, as Capitol labeled it, Duophonic). But Pet Sounds was only issued in mono originally. A true stereo version was first created decades later by remixing the multitrack tapes. And the stereo version of Smiley Smile is true stereo. Following the stereo remix of Pet Sounds, true stereo versions of the 1965 albums (Today, Summer Days and Summer Nights and Beach Boys Party) were created, initially for CD release and subsequently for vinyl release. I think those true stereo mixes sound terrific (especially the audiophile vinyl pressings from Analogue Productions.)

    • @seed_drill7135
      @seed_drill7135 3 місяці тому

      @@Nuclearmagenta I was only referring to original versions. Pet Sounds is the only remix I have. My old Goldmine guide lists Smiley Smile as still being fake stereo on original pressings.
      I've got the DCC mono Pet Sounds but my stereo version was the Capital reissue not the AP.

    • @Nuclearmagenta
      @Nuclearmagenta 3 місяці тому

      @@seed_drill7135yes, I didn’t mean to imply that you were not referring to the original versions. But now I just checked my first pressing of the stereo Smiley Smile with the mono pressing from AP and I believe you are correct. It does sound like fake stereo. And if it is not fake stereo, the stereo effect is very very minimal to the point where it practically sounds like mono. I never realized this before.

    • @JamesTaylor-yg7ow
      @JamesTaylor-yg7ow 2 місяці тому

      Are you sure the Fairport Convention LP plays in mono? When Island stopped pressing mono records they still had mono labels left over which they used up on stereo LPs. I've seen Free's second album with mono labels and that never got a mono release. I'm pretty certain that the Liege and Lief LP you have will play stereo. There wasn't a UK mono pressing.😊

  • @jessem470
    @jessem470 3 місяці тому +1

    Another great subject
    No doubt The Who , The Kinks , Bestles and Stones would be part of the conversation
    Surprised and happy with inclusion of Fairport
    Im going just a little further back
    Dave Brubeck s Time Out and Time Further Out the mono version are much more cohesive
    Check your Brubeck and make sure its Mono

    • @ghengismcgillicutty4695
      @ghengismcgillicutty4695 3 місяці тому +1

      I did, and my Further is. Thanks for the tip.

    • @jessem470
      @jessem470 3 місяці тому

      @@ghengismcgillicutty4695 so much better

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому

      @@jessem470 Just checked my early pressing of Time Out and it’s Stereo.

    • @jessem470
      @jessem470 3 місяці тому

      Hey , Its still Brubeck !
      But when out and about check Brubeck in the bins
      This is one case where i think Mono mix is far superior
      Im not sure about other Jazz but i wouldn’t be surprised
      Happy 4th

  • @juanvaldez7633
    @juanvaldez7633 3 місяці тому

    I think The Kink's "Arthur" sounds so bad in mono because it's probably a folddown - by 1969, if anyone was still releasing mono LPs at all they were never dedicated mixes. But I'll take all the Kink's other albums in mono up to that point.
    Surely many will not agree, but I actually prefer both of the Jimi Hendrix Experience's first two LPs in mono - much of the stereo panning on each now sounds wonky and gimmicky. But you need the French Barclay mono version of "Are You Experienced" which is easily the best sounding yet released. In this guise, they come off as the most cosmically advanced, musically proficient, and far-seeing garage band ever conceived by anyone.

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому

      @@juanvaldez7633 I have a UK Mono of Are You Experienced, but it’s a later pressing. Definitely a different vibe than the stereo mix. The one I prefer the most these days is the 2010 Legacy Experience Hendrix CD version which is sonically the best I’ve ever heard. There are nuances in this mix I’ve never heard before.

  • @TheAnarchitek
    @TheAnarchitek 3 місяці тому

    I preferred the Mono versions of songs that were later "Reprocessed for Stereo". I grew up on Mono, only got into Stereo after I returned from VietNam with a world-class stereo system! The Righteous Brothers hits work better in Mono, because Phil Spector produced several of them, and Phil was committed to Mono (until he was committed to prison).
    All the Stones' '60s singles sound better in Mono (listen to the Mono version of Between the Buttons, for the unreleased Miss Amanda Jones), especially Satisfaction, Paint It Black, Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, and Jumping Jack Flash. Face to Face benefits from the attention to the Mono mix. The Stereo version was made for the emerging US market, and was done on the fly, still using 1965 (the Age of Fake Stereo) metrics.
    The Beatles put the same kind of effort into their Mono mixes, until Sgt Pepper's, so the singles through Yellow Submarine/Eleanor Rigby pop more than their later counterparts. By Get Back, singles were released in Stereo, without even making Mono mixes. The end of an era. By the end of 1969, Mono LPs were already a rarity.

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому +1

      @@TheAnarchitek I agree regarding those early Stones albums. They sound fantastic in Mono.

  • @gerardocarroll1158
    @gerardocarroll1158 2 місяці тому

    Hi Tom, took your advice and got hold of an Aussie copy of the Jumping Jack Flash 45 (mono), it’s funny because I had been thinking of getting it but, you spurred me on, it needed a clean, but sounds fantastic, I am sure the organ at the end is mixed higher in mono, also the bass drum, I had forgotten what an absolutely brilliant song Child Of The Moon is , one of their best, it needs to be better known. Apparently Bill Wyman played the organ on JJF.

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  2 місяці тому

      @@gerardocarroll1158 That’s awesome you picked up that 45. Child Of The Moon is my all time fave Stones b-side as well as one of my favorite Stones tracks.

  • @dancranford5391
    @dancranford5391 3 місяці тому

    Hey Tom, how about a top ten list of Album cuts over radio edits. Sugarloafs album version of Green Eyed Lady over the radio edit is far superior. Same with Crimson and Clover by Tommy James. Also throw in 25 or 6 to 4 from Chicago. Love to see you come up with a top ten. There are many more to choose From.Dan

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому

      @@dancranford5391 I’ll keep it in mind. Thanks 😉

  • @JustFortheRecord66
    @JustFortheRecord66 3 місяці тому

    Have you heard of he first two Pink Floyd albums in their mono mixes? They are radically different.

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому

      I’ll have to check out Piper in mono. 😉

  • @ediblehorse
    @ediblehorse 3 місяці тому

    Thanks Tom. Another great vid! I dont have any favs per se.
    A friend of mine is convinced that flawed LPs with some scuffs and scratches are much more forgiving in their mono form. I think he may be right. Have you noticed this?

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому

      @@ediblehorse Totally. I think he’s right. I don’t what it is, but it does appear that way in most instances. 😉

  • @aminahmed2220
    @aminahmed2220 3 місяці тому

    😢absolutely fantastic have a wonderful day also happy independence day to the United states ❤😊

  • @alfching2499
    @alfching2499 3 місяці тому

    The Beatles sound shit in Stereo. Decca Records we’re recorded nice and loud in mono in the 60s and Pye Records also.Listen to The Searchers on Pye how good they were recorded in Mono and The Kinks

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому

      @@alfching2499 I prefer the early Kinks in Mono.

  • @kingofallmediums2123
    @kingofallmediums2123 3 місяці тому

    I prefer stereo almost always. I once had a mono version of Are You Experienced? 😳 😬

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому +1

      @@kingofallmediums2123 I’m with you, especially Hendrix. That CD reissue of Are You Experienced from the Hendrix Estate on the Legacy imprint from 2010 is outstanding. Never heard a more powerful version.

  • @seed_drill7135
    @seed_drill7135 3 місяці тому

    One I forgot to mention was The Beatles Magical Mystery Tour. In the UK it was a double Ep and missing Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane which was a pre Pepper single. As a single it wasn't mixed to stereo, so Capital made fake stereo versions for the album. In the early 1970's Odeon in Germany did proper stereo mixes (that's the version with the alternate cover). But, unless you had the German version, the US/Canadian mono versions were preferable, IMO. Of course it's since been remixed to stereo,

  • @Russell.S
    @Russell.S 3 місяці тому

    What a great topic and kind of a rabbit hole! I had the “electronically rechanneled for stereo” version of Donovan’s Sunshine Superman (1966) and was startled at how much better the mono version sounded. But in this case it wasn’t true stereo either. Many examples of that, don’t know if that was an Epic thing or if other labels used fake stereo during the transitional era.

  • @WayneScank
    @WayneScank 3 місяці тому

    Tom, will you do your preferences of stereo?

  • @kingofallmediums2123
    @kingofallmediums2123 3 місяці тому

    In Paperback Writer, they sing “Frere Jacques” in the background.

  • @brtherjohn
    @brtherjohn 3 місяці тому

    Speaking of Beatles: The mono 'White Album' is a must! Sure, Helter Skelter is truncated there (no Ringo at the end) but in most of the songs the balances are startling different and there are a number of different takes in the songs. A whole different and rewarding experience!!

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому

      I agree. I bought a UK version of the White Album back in 1982. It was some type of re-release. It had a cut out on the top. At that time I noticed all the various sonic differences, unaware at the time until later it was a Mono copy.

    • @adamfindlay7091
      @adamfindlay7091 2 місяці тому

      Thanx, didn't know that.

  • @Nuclearmagenta
    @Nuclearmagenta 3 місяці тому

    Good to see an actual informative video from the so-called vinyl community, and a concise and well spoken one at that.

  • @if6was929
    @if6was929 3 місяці тому

    I have the Stones mono box set and Keith's solo on Sympathy is more pronounced than on the stereo version, its so different that its like listening to the song for the first time. I prefer all of their earlier recordings on mono. Using a mono cartridge is the best way to listen to mono recordings.

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому

      @@if6was929 I have that Mono box as well. Those early Stones albums sound great in Mono. Beggars Banquet I dig in Stereo though..

  • @seed_drill7135
    @seed_drill7135 3 місяці тому

    I went through a mono phase when I was in college, but that’s a different topic.

    • @prossart35
      @prossart35 3 місяці тому +1

      Yea me too, no fun

  • @adamfindlay7091
    @adamfindlay7091 2 місяці тому

    What about cheap, broken players that cut out half the song( mix)? Thank you, Jensen speakers. 😸 Hey, ive got 2 ears. BABHome is the only Dylan as far as im concerned.

  • @kso808
    @kso808 3 місяці тому +1

    Interesting episode! I've converted vinyl to mp3 files on my computer, and I've amped up the bass on tracks like "Paperback Writer." I guess it's a subjective matter, but my amped-up mp3 version really rocks, as I'm out driving. Same for "Jumpin' Jack Flash." I knew it was originally recorded through a cassette player via amps by Keith Richards, but I guess I never knew the 45 was recorded in mono. I've downloaded it from Apple iTunes, and apparently that is a bit of an amped-up version. I really like the Stones 45 follow-up, "Street Fighting Man," even more, especially the outro with the psychedelic keyboards and sitar sound, and think about the late Brian Jones.

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому

      @@kso808 Yes indeed, always loved that odd raw production of Street Fighting Man. I love everything the Stones did in ‘68. Child Of The Moon is their greatest b-side. Brilliant.

  • @simonagree4070
    @simonagree4070 3 місяці тому +3

    Heh. Take a drink every time Tom says, "In your face."
    I really like the mono British version of the first Rolling Stones record -- don't know why, I just go nuts when "Route 66" starts up. Found it in a thrift store many years ago, saw it in a record shop a few weeks ago for $ 75. Crazy.

    • @if6was929
      @if6was929 3 місяці тому +2

      I have the Stones mono box set, I prefer nearly everything, including Banquet, on mono.

    • @tomrobinson5776
      @tomrobinson5776  3 місяці тому +1

      @@simonagree4070 The price for vinyl these days is absurd. I’ll always dig vinyl for its physical appeal. The whole immersive feel, but I still think CD’s have their attributes. Cheaper, no pops, cleaner sound etc..

  • @Steven-ot2iy
    @Steven-ot2iy 3 місяці тому

    You highlighted some real favorites of mine. Thanks! I also like a few select mono songs from Simon and Garfunkel. I remember when mono reprocessed for stereo was a big thing too. that was rubbish!