I totally agree w this but I’m assuming the pros would use the argument that they don’t wanna play a “bs” game during a time where cdl points matter. Still agree with you but I doubt they’d do it
@@wKFaded mcw brainrotted the middle tier teams bro im saying it. They want the ames to save them and make it feel like an even playing field against the top 3 teams
essay warning 10:58 this might seem like a strange association, but hear me out. smogon, a competitive pokemon forum, sets out its criteria for bans as this: something must be one, a) broken/overpowered, b) uncompetitive, c) overcentralising broken is the most clear. overwhelmingly strong such that counterplay is non-existent or unreasonably demanding uncompetitive things are ones that take control of the result of the match out of the hands of the players. rng stuff, basically. overcentralising things are so good that they are practically necessary. this is bad because it stifles metas.
I love the fact Dashy won his ring on mw2 maps with GA'd snipes but one way smokes were allowed but aim assist bug is the problem but that would get rid of snipes AA
It’s sad like they would of banned the ump and acr from the cdl if mw2 2009 came out today. That makes me fucking sick to my stomach. I think the gunsmith is the problem actually idk how exactly but this shit started in mw19
Snipers being GAd makes absolutely no sense to me. Even with attachments they are the slowest and clunkiest version of snipers ever in cod. Sure some maps aren’t ideal for it on a few lanes, but I doubt the maps we have now will be in the pool after February.
Can I just say it’s funny that as soon as Sam Tom and zin say this it becomes a topic to talk about. BUT WE HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS SHIT FOR YEARS. sucks yall wouldn’t give a fuck if ex pros didn’t.
They use the same guns every matchup, the same SMG, the same AR….there is no diversity….adapting to different weapons shows that you are GOOD at the game…idk why they are crying about snipers just to turn around and use the same 2-3 guns🤦🏾♂️
Instead of GAing guns just limit what can be used like only 1 or 2 of a gun depending on the gun. Like if they allow 1 krig and 1 XM4 just like snipers only allow 1. Just like they do with trophies and all that it’s simple
okay from somebody was has competed every year and been in events every year i think a lot of you casual watchers are confused on so much of this. I think most of u know GA’s are necessary or atleast i hope yall know. the only crazy GA’s this year was knife (unlimited tac sprint so “timings are off”) & the sniper. Saug and every other gun made sense because when they were in it was 6-8 of them a map especially in the AM Scene. when pros set GA’s the same follows for us. no GA followed no scrim. Cod is one of the only big esports that don’t build the game off competitive play in mind. so players do this. only way to balance is to make coaches vote themselves or have the league or someone trusted (not a pro) hold the ga vote and post the scores without revealing the teams. so people vote more honestly
If Dashy runs the sniper and everyone else starts using 4 Krigs against them and then only, optic can do the same and they will still be the only team that gets consistent reps with 4 Krigs on the map. It’s not a huge risk imo
Do you see it possible that the pros would agree to allow other teams to use the snipers if both teams agree before each match? Like say OpTic play C9 and since both wanted them in they would play the match with snipes like they did in the kaysan tourney and that way it gives fans what they want by seeing crazy snipes and keeps pros happy by letting them decide if they want to play against them or not? Or do you think the teams wouldn't do it because they would then have to sacrifice time in practice to learn how to play around snipes when it wouldn't be needed for 80% or more of the matches? I also think it would let everyone see if they are indeed broken or not and maybe even change pros/the community's prospective on the matter.
Exactly, don’t think teams would think it’s worth their time trying to come up with an entirely different way of playing for only 20% of possible matches
Any possibility of making the sniper a power play option? Each player has 1 opportunity to use it in a game mode or series, gives the player a choice to use it or not
as it stands there’s no real natural meta emerging in cod, really, & it is stagnant. a meta that doesn’t develop over its course is not good. i don’t understand why there isn’t more close involvement from the cdl. yes, cod is not competitive on a whole, but there is a competitive side to it which is catered to somewhat. just need to go further. less bans, more nerfs/buffs.
Well if the league steps in and say you can use this and can't do anymore GA's they can setup a system where this team scrims this team and this time, and fine people who don't cooperate. Im pretty sure Riot does this with League
@ that has nothing to do with what I said and apples to oranges don’t make sense. Im replying to when he said the league can’t step in, which they can with a method similar to what I said.
@ImLivinPruf riot is the be all and end all of valorant and leauge. The CDL is some underfunded afterthought that is entirely divorced from the actual developer; and it is an organization that the publisher gives very little support to. So yeah it is apples and oranges as they are completely different competitive models between the two and this difference is at the very core of their organizational philosophies.... they don't give af enough to do it.... how could it be any more apples and oranges than that?
been saying it for 2 years. no GA`s before major 1. give us 1 split of wild cod ffs. god forbid we get some fresh things to look at.
I totally agree w this but I’m assuming the pros would use the argument that they don’t wanna play a “bs” game during a time where cdl points matter. Still agree with you but I doubt they’d do it
Banning all the equipment and all wild cards is just unreal.... same class every game, every player straight up boring.
@@wKFaded mcw brainrotted the middle tier teams bro im saying it. They want the ames to save them and make it feel like an even playing field against the top 3 teams
At least do a weekend of leauge matches online JFC
again ill say... the PROS ARE KIDS... they cant see outside of their little bubble. Any kid will always choose an option that benefits them.
Simple as...
essay warning
10:58 this might seem like a strange association, but hear me out. smogon, a competitive pokemon forum, sets out its criteria for bans as this:
something must be one, a) broken/overpowered, b) uncompetitive, c) overcentralising
broken is the most clear. overwhelmingly strong such that counterplay is non-existent or unreasonably demanding
uncompetitive things are ones that take control of the result of the match out of the hands of the players. rng stuff, basically.
overcentralising things are so good that they are practically necessary. this is bad because it stifles metas.
I love the fact Dashy won his ring on mw2 maps with GA'd snipes but one way smokes were allowed but aim assist bug is the problem but that would get rid of snipes AA
It’s sad like they would of banned the ump and acr from the cdl if mw2 2009 came out today. That makes me fucking sick to my stomach. I think the gunsmith is the problem actually idk how exactly but this shit started in mw19
Snipers being GAd makes absolutely no sense to me. Even with attachments they are the slowest and clunkiest version of snipers ever in cod.
Sure some maps aren’t ideal for it on a few lanes, but I doubt the maps we have now will be in the pool after February.
It’s a GA on Dashy. One guy has the entire league scare
tell dashy to pull it out the other pros that voted it out without good reason deserve no peace JP,let it get ugly.
I don't believe that. If a team brakes a ga. Nothing is gonna happen. So let's do a season with all the cheese, and no ga's.
Can I just say it’s funny that as soon as Sam Tom and zin say this it becomes a topic to talk about. BUT WE HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS SHIT FOR YEARS. sucks yall wouldn’t give a fuck if ex pros didn’t.
They use the same guns every matchup, the same SMG, the same AR….there is no diversity….adapting to different weapons shows that you are GOOD at the game…idk why they are crying about snipers just to turn around and use the same 2-3 guns🤦🏾♂️
Instead of GAing guns just limit what can be used like only 1 or 2 of a gun depending on the gun. Like if they allow 1 krig and 1 XM4 just like snipers only allow 1. Just like they do with trophies and all that it’s simple
okay from somebody was has competed every year and been in events every year i think a lot of you casual watchers are confused on so much of this. I think most of u know GA’s are necessary or atleast i hope yall know. the only crazy GA’s this year was knife (unlimited tac sprint so “timings are off”) & the sniper. Saug and every other gun made sense because when they were in it was 6-8 of them a map especially in the AM Scene. when pros set GA’s the same follows for us. no GA followed no scrim. Cod is one of the only big esports that don’t build the game off competitive play in mind. so players do this. only way to balance is to make coaches vote themselves or have the league or someone trusted (not a pro) hold the ga vote and post the scores without revealing the teams. so people vote more honestly
If Dashy runs the sniper and everyone else starts using 4 Krigs against them and then only, optic can do the same and they will still be the only team that gets consistent reps with 4 Krigs on the map. It’s not a huge risk imo
Do you see it possible that the pros would agree to allow other teams to use the snipers if both teams agree before each match? Like say OpTic play C9 and since both wanted them in they would play the match with snipes like they did in the kaysan tourney and that way it gives fans what they want by seeing crazy snipes and keeps pros happy by letting them decide if they want to play against them or not? Or do you think the teams wouldn't do it because they would then have to sacrifice time in practice to learn how to play around snipes when it wouldn't be needed for 80% or more of the matches? I also think it would let everyone see if they are indeed broken or not and maybe even change pros/the community's prospective on the matter.
Exactly, don’t think teams would think it’s worth their time trying to come up with an entirely different way of playing for only 20% of possible matches
@@JPKrez Yeah I figured, makes sense. Thanks for the response, happy to see a team coach's opinion on the matter.
Any possibility of making the sniper a power play option? Each player has 1 opportunity to use it in a game mode or series, gives the player a choice to use it or not
my goat
Optic has the league in their knees.
as it stands there’s no real natural meta emerging in cod, really, & it is stagnant. a meta that doesn’t develop over its course is not good.
i don’t understand why there isn’t more close involvement from the cdl. yes, cod is not competitive on a whole, but there is a competitive side to it which is catered to somewhat. just need to go further.
less bans, more nerfs/buffs.
Exactly no meta they ban everything in the game where 8 players running same class. How is that entertainment fucking boring as fuck
People are acting like 8 of the same gun is bad, when there was 8 Bals on a map at once in AW 😂
I can assure you there was definitely ASM1s even a HBR and the MORS regularly being used 😐
@ for majority of the year yes but there was a time in that games life span where in respawn it was 8 Bals 😂
Well if the league steps in and say you can use this and can't do anymore GA's they can setup a system where this team scrims this team and this time, and fine people who don't cooperate. Im pretty sure Riot does this with League
Riot actually made a game designed for competitive from the ground up. Apples to oranges here lol
@ that has nothing to do with what I said and apples to oranges don’t make sense. Im replying to when he said the league can’t step in, which they can with a method similar to what I said.
@ImLivinPruf riot is the be all and end all of valorant and leauge. The CDL is some underfunded afterthought that is entirely divorced from the actual developer; and it is an organization that the publisher gives very little support to. So yeah it is apples and oranges as they are completely different competitive models between the two and this difference is at the very core of their organizational philosophies....
they don't give af enough to do it.... how could it be any more apples and oranges than that?
Unpopular opinion it takes forever but just bring back ban and protect these guys are just children they shouldn’t be allowed to decide anything
Cod went from a top esport to a bottom one sad to see bro
I planned flying to Madrid for the Major I, but now I think I'm gonna pass. I'm not sure that I want to support CDL in the current state.
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